00:00 -!- Not-34e8 has joined #evilhack 00:00 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/34f0388842c1...63a7b41c9267 00:00 [EvilHack] k21971 ab03933 - Lower 'confuse monster' spell from level 2 to 1, make it part of a Monk's starting spell selection. 00:00 [EvilHack] k21971 63a7b41 - Fix: enchant armor selection and dragon scales; wishing for dragon scale mail. 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:10190 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:10429 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "silver dragon scales", on T:17324 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:71745 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:12368 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:92643 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:71926 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:71975 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu), 6365600 points, T:71988, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1651461937.evil.html 01:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6904 points, T:8024, killed by a Grey-elf 01:15 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: A cloud of gas puts terrapin to sleep] 01:36 !tell terrapin congrats!! \o/ 01:36 I'm on it, K2. 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a barrow wight, on T:14706 02:00 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a javelin entrusted to him by Kos, on T:94843 02:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a steel long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17239 03:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) became literate by engraving "hid", on T:3172 03:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 1278 points, T:3828, killed by a killer bee 04:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 175 points, T:979, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:96846 04:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19751 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:19752 04:41 That better be the castle wand 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scales", on T:19755 05:13 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:20634 05:13 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20635 05:18 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:20727 05:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:31 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 06:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver elven long sword of fire", on T:100766 06:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Kos, on T:101228 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:101288 07:16 !tell terrapin congrats terrapin! 07:16 I'm on it, mobileuser. 07:19 K2 nice commits! 07:31 Oh, gg 07:39 terrapin: angelslayer's fire is special magical fire, not normal fire 07:39 k2: thx for the confuse monster change 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Trt Fem Neu), 354 points, T:1839, burned by molten lava 07:44 oops, wrong key press 07:46 time to succumb and configure the paranoid option, I am getting too used to variants like xnethack 07:47 what does 'You are no longer vulnerable to cold' mean when I take *off* a ring? I take it the ring reduced my cold resistance, somehow? 07:47 It has nothing to do with the ring 07:47 A monster spell made you partly vulnerable to cold earlier 07:48 oh, gotcha. Just co-incidence 07:48 yeah, the message says you have now recovered from the spell effects 07:49 how come evilhack has paranoid options? 07:49 do you guys know my thoughts on paranoid? 07:49 can't remembver if i ever have talked aboutg it.... 07:49 I don't remember 07:50 yes it does now... it's horrible. it's the worst part of the game. makes me not want to play it lol 07:50 cuz honestly i feel like everyone ELSE is cheating 07:50 i fall in the water... i blank my scrolls etc 07:50 what is the point in playing slow? or fast? 07:51 you can just slap the keyboard and play as fast as you want 07:51 it takes the entire skill of being able to play fast out of the game 07:51 does vanilla have it yet? 07:51 i hope not 07:52 crazy for evil to though IMO (sorry everyone else... bhaak apprently had not heard my rant.) ;) 07:53 for the longest time, evil had same paranoid options as vanilla 07:53 i dont know who petitioned to change it, but i don't think they've ascended.... 07:53 k2 gonna get mad when he wakes up (he knows my thoughts on it) 07:55 and people are all - oh why do you care so much about how OTHER people play? 07:55 as if we aren't competing at some level? 07:56 i guess if it takes you a month to ascend it's different. just not how i play /rant 07:57 rebatela even 3.7 now has paranoid options 07:57 so I am going to succumb ;-) 07:58 yeah doesnt surprise me that van has it now 07:58 i was afraid to ask 07:58 what a bummer 07:59 all the people who died in lava ? drowned? etc. in the past? 07:59 we need to make a baby game 07:59 are you sure you want to die? 07:59 yeah I agree, but hey... 08:00 just been playing a long time... 08:00 there's gotta be a thread about it somewhere when the change happened 08:00 i know there are others who feel like me 08:00 yall act like i'm crazy when i get mad about it lol 08:01 no, I understand 08:02 and it's like... i haven't turned it on yet. but now i'm playing a different game ya know? 08:02 that's the point 08:02 This again? 08:02 lol 08:02 here we go 08:02 bhaak hadn't heard my thoughts. i'm done 08:03 Here what goes? 08:03 I'm just confused how this got rehashed again. 08:04 i dunno man .i woke up. they were talking about it. i made a joke thinking everyone knew it drives me nuts and bhaak said no he didn't know so i ranted and raved 08:04 sorry :( 08:04 good morning 08:04 blame me, I said I was finally ready to go the dark side ;-) 08:05 well i'm probably going to as well 08:05 i've thought about it 08:05 i mean... i want to play the same game as everyone else 08:05 haven't yet tho 08:07 sorry to make you rant 08:07 lol i'm enjoying myself brah 08:07 hope things are good 08:07 if I don't have a clear path up or down in the dungeon, and need a pickaxe to proceed down to minetown, does it make sense to camp in the Mines until a dwarf is spawned with a pickaxe? Not sure the odds and how long it will take, or if I should just chance it in the Big Room 08:07 just because people in the past had it rough doesn't mean that we still have to do 08:08 it's supposed to be a hard game... at least that was always the appeal for me 08:08 I'm not satisfied with paranoid options. they are a clunky kludge over a general interface issue 08:08 musicdemon: You can also dig down if you like 08:08 I don't have any digging tools or /oDigging 08:08 it is still a hard game. unless you're named luxidreams 08:09 i always go to mines for the axe for that exact reason 08:09 Once you have the pick-axe. 08:09 Also, when you say no clear path up or down? 08:09 like i care more about the pickaxe then the luckstone... gotta be able to dig 08:09 than 08:09 lol rebatela I see in the commit that K2 gave it an evil twist, there is still a chance you suffer some water or lava damage 08:10 new keyboard... i can't freaking wait to play but a little messed up now (if it isn't obvious) 08:10 haha i remember him saying that 08:10 he was like "have any of you even TRIED it?" 08:10 jprobably doesnt work lol 08:10 It does. 08:10 Umbire what I mean is the Big Room has a sasquatch between me and the downstair, lol. I have some offensive tools, but would rather just dig down and come back later, I guess. AC +0 isn't amazing 08:10 that would be the ultimate troll job though... pretened you have paranoid water and it just never works 08:11 Serviceable, at least, but you can scare off the Y if you have the means (you most likely do not). 08:11 Important stuff now: RRAG? 08:11 (role race alignment gender) 08:11 sadness and despair 08:11 centaur ranger chaotic male 08:12 there's an icebox with 15 or so corpses and I already have the soko food, so I can hang in the mines for awhile 08:12 how should I notice. I'm a dev, I don't play games 08:12 current paranoid options are pretty minor. they COULD prompt you before you hit a monster that will paralyze you after you've been paralyzed once. i.e. second melee on floating eye, are you sure y/n. all of that stuff is just gui. it isn't game mechanics. game could have been written client server with replaceable clients we could write ourselves, would still be the same game 08:13 chaotic centaur MONK is the way 08:13 if you can be chaotic you gotta be chaotic 08:13 lawful tortle priest female 08:14 are you sure you want to hit the floating eye? 08:14 dude i would never ever play that game 08:14 it's hard for me to do it with the lava/water shit 08:14 Centaur ranger, eh. 08:14 oh cool lava decor... 08:14 And this sasquatch, it's RIGHT by the stairs? 08:14 i mean it has nothing to do with the game anymore 08:14 @e?sasquatch 08:14 sasquatch (Y) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 claw physical, 1d8 kick physical | Alignment: 2 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, infravisible 08:15 musicdemon? 08:15 well, I have a /oTeleport that I could use on it. Was kinda hoping to save its charges, but maybe this is a good time 08:15 you still play in monochrome, right rebatela? using 640x480 pixels for your display? 08:16 Yeah, you get too invested in saving charges and you're gonna end up dying with them. 08:16 musicdemon -- i would say waiting for a dwarf only makes sense when you have an altar to camp 08:17 Zap tele and it's a p. good chance that it ends up anywhere but next to you or the stairs, and then it depends on the Big Room layout from there 08:17 yeah, I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the advice :) Other than the sasquatch, the big room seemed fine 08:17 The important thing is to get the breathing room before anything else, then I feel like you should be able to shoot your way through 08:17 wand of teleport in the big room is a fool's game. no musical instrument? no pit or trap to trick him into? no camera? 08:18 krm26: mono yes 08:18 colors are weak 08:18 I don't think they'd be asking about this all if they did. 08:18 I mean, I hope not anyway, that'd be silly. 08:18 i love this argument if anyone hasnt noticed... 08:18 No crime, we all overthink, but very silly! 08:18 yeah, the only tool I have is a BoH and a lantern, lol 08:18 like i'm tryting to NOT talk about it . becauise i will go on all day 08:19 put the sasquatch in the boh for later 08:19 sprinkle caltrops in front of you to lame the sasquatch 08:19 * rebatela hits oil pen. goes back to bed 08:19 y'all are cool tho 08:19 throw stew at the sasquatch, it will get in his fur and all the other monsters will pile on him to eat him 08:19 you're just cheating at the game with this paranoid bs 08:20 it should be listed in the conducts or whatever 08:20 paranoid allows me to pay less attention, the less attention i have to pay, the more i play 08:20 i know 08:20 it's not fair 08:20 most of the time i don't have a lot of attention for nethack because i interweave it with actual stuff 08:20 you're supposed to have to pay attention. case in fucking point 08:20 paranoid should be listed in conducts, i agree 08:21 i don't know why he changed it... i know he used to feel like i did. so i don't get it especially for "evil" hack but whatever 08:21 removing all of the gui sugar would probably lead to be playing about 95% less. maybe that is a good goal 08:21 it isn't supposed to be evil because of bad ui 08:22 it is supposed to be evil because of game mechanics challenges 08:22 dude it's nethack... it's definition of bad ui 08:22 you're supposed to not typo yourself into a shitshow 08:22 can't do that? don't play so fast 08:22 i disagree, its ui is pretty decent 08:22 you play as fast as you CAN... parANOID? justg slap gthe keyboard no worries 08:23 instadeath from network hiccup == what an awesome game design :-) genius! 08:23 may as well be backing up your saves while you're at it... 08:23 you're right, with paranoid i just blindfold myself and hit keys until i ascend 08:23 lol 08:23 you all know i'm right... that's the fucked up thing lol 08:24 i understand your erroneous point 08:24 lol 08:24 trying to wait for him to wake up. I want to know why he changed it. I guess it's cuz vanilla did? 08:24 that's ok, the less fragile your ego becomes, the more you will accept that ui improvements don't diminish you are a person 08:25 are/as 08:25 haha 08:25 i am going to be experiencing some ego loss very soon... 08:25 games that don't let me mostly ignore the boring parts are boring, i do not play them 08:26 of course i still enjoy the precastle section of any version of nethack much more than the rest 08:26 i just feel like theres supposed to be a physical part to it 08:26 realtime nethack? 08:26 like making a typo to your death should happen not ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DIE? 08:26 one turn every 3 seconds 08:26 no i like that it's turn based... take however much time you need 08:27 EASYMODE rebatela 08:27 get it? 08:27 time pressure is the physical part. the monsters march mercilessly on 08:27 it's supposed to be dywypi not are you sure? 08:27 pound on the movement key trying to get a round off in time 08:27 and anyone that played rogue/hack/nh originally knows that 08:27 i've played the game since inception 08:27 same bro 08:27 i know 08:28 we old 08:28 saying "supposed to" doesn't carry much weight, things were initially done with little thought and thought was later grafted ontop in a hodgepodge fashion 08:28 ok 08:28 that's the game i fell in love with tho 08:29 it is still available 08:29 and they are making it babyhack slowly 08:29 so people don't get mad when the fall in the water 08:29 what a joke 08:29 well, nobody makes you stop playing civ iii and start playing civ iv. keep playing civ iii 08:30 if it got super easy it wouldn't be fun. can we admit we play it because it's hard? 08:30 like i know you're good at it 08:30 hell, if you want to play cutting edge evilhack you can even patch out the parts you think make it too ez 08:30 but most people cannot ascend evilhack 08:30 no i like doing it for real and us all playing the same game. it's become a community thing for me 08:30 so now i have to turn on paranoid lava/water 08:31 cuz it's not fair 08:31 then you gotta take the salt with the sugar 08:31 so if you turn on paranoia are you going to serially ascend? 08:31 the big room ended up being fine. I just outmaneuvered the sasquatch and didn't end up needing the wand. 08:31 obviously noty 08:31 not 08:32 where ytou playinh musicdemon 08:32 i DO remember, pre-paranoia, one stupid death-by-lava and mayyyybee two or three dunkings in the past 5 years 08:32 rebatela hdf-us 08:32 yeah i got it 08:32 but i have a lot more stupid deaths that paranoia doesnt save me from -- drawbridges and hugs and not noticing transformations and etc etc 08:32 my thing is i always seem to dig down INTO the big room 08:32 THAT's WHEN YOu get screwed 08:32 i try to build up 1-20 stupid deaths between each ascension 08:32 or like the aphrodite level 08:33 it takes that many for me to actually start paying attention because i start feeling too stupid 08:33 oh man i play drunk/high usually so games are all different 08:34 sometimes i get in a groove and can just do it... i haven't ascended in a LONG time tho 08:35 you guys are way better than me 08:35 it is all just based on how much attention you have to spare 08:35 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 08:36 if i'm working on some weird convolutional encoding problem in the back of my head i may stand on a drawbridge 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 275 points, T:983, killed by an acid blob 08:45 !lastgame 08:45 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1651925670.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1651867537.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1643975312.evil.html 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:543 08:49 ooh, p. fast kill 08:49 musicdemon: yeah, I'dve have suggested that but I couldn't be sure how close close it was to you 08:49 super-fast 08:49 Like if it's right on you you might have some issues getting away depending on how extra moves from speed shake out 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1334 points, T:689, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:50 oh well, rip 08:50 :c 08:52 live fast, die young 08:53 @?manes 08:53 manes (i) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 3 | Res: sleep poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 claw physical, 1d4 bite physical | Alignment: -7 | Flags: genocidable, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 08:55 trying to find the one hidden door so you can proceed downward is the worst. I've done 3-4 searches in all tiles of the walls of all rooms on the floor...nothing. arghh 08:56 what server are you on? 08:56 hdf-us 08:57 you have a door you haven't explored 08:57 top left room, door at bottom righ 08:57 yeah, top-left has already been explored 08:57 that might continue and hook around 08:57 i mean, it might be just rock but worth doing an n20s there if you haven't 08:58 also search in that corridor corner outside the fountain for hidden passage 08:58 also, the stairs up room might have a secret door at the bottom left that goes alllll the way across to that void 08:58 those look like the highest percentage places to me 08:59 n10s yields nothing in that corner? too bad 09:00 there you go 09:00 tada! 09:00 good luck 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 700 points, T:390, killed by the Goblin King 09:00 thanks :) Yeah, that was a tough one 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 220 points, T:123, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 147 points, T:218, killed by a dwarf queen 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 0 points, T:49, killed by a boulder 09:09 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 739 points, T:1801, killed by the Goblin King 09:12 bah, thought lobbing boulders at the goblin king would do more damage 09:27 without fail, starved my like 10th mount to death 09:27 i guess i'm missing some important messages to remind me 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:75682 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:75712 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 338 points, T:1189, killed by a water moccasin 10:04 yay Sunsword 10:04 gotta stick it in a bag for now, arch lich pet 10:04 made that mistake last time 10:05 ah! 10:05 and im still stuck with my only source of mr being dramborleg after 75k turns :-P 10:05 and I saw you've already learned to give it a unihorn ;-) 10:05 yup, that was a great suggestion 10:05 never woulda thought of that 10:07 if my castle wand hadn't been emptied i'd probably wish for an mr amulet 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4272 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4613 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:5196 10:34 i love being able to "loot" your pet 10:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:34 especially titans etc. that will big up bags and fill them with rocks etc. i try to help them be a little more organized 10:34 i guess it doesn't really matter for a monster. but for weapons etc. it is so so much easier now 10:38 !who 10:38 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] lgxia [evil] elron [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6915 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1337027 points, T:105225, killed by Lolth 10:50 !lastgame lgxia 10:50 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lgxia/evilhack/dumplog/1651372509.evil.html 10:50 ouch, looks like foocubus summoned weredemon summoned lolth 10:50 krm26 save/reload real quick I just patched 10:51 okeydokey 10:52 those commits you commented on, they are now live on hdf-us 10:52 awesomesauce 10:52 nice to close that dtsund repair trap before it eats someone on the planes or something :-) 10:52 the confuse monster spell one, you wont notice until new game. the enchant armor/repair armor stuff and dragon scales, should notice immediately 10:53 exactly 10:53 that someone was definitely gonna be me 10:54 heh 10:54 my current game is so weird. past castle, tons of turns -- no towel, no ring of lev, no amulet of flying (almost no amulets at all), no magic lamps (almost no lamps at all) 10:54 almost no scrolls really 10:54 huh 10:54 i've had games like that. 2 of my tnnt asc last november were like that 10:54 instead, like 100 potions 10:56 my arch lich pet has climbed up to level 37, he's really gonna smoke me when he finally gets mad 10:56 -!- Umbire has quit [*.net *.split] 10:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:57 lol daaaamn 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:76601 10:58 woo 10:59 for how moose my arch lich is he is really capricious about what he wants to bother to fight 11:00 he'll like sit next to a peaceful aleax for 40 turns and then suddenly smoke him 11:00 did moose start out as a cat? 11:01 i think he did 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:76649 11:02 hmm, doesn't seem right for a salamander in hell to have a silver trident 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:77226 11:16 why not? they arent demons 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:14405 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:15592 11:38 kersplit 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:17137 11:38 because they are living bosom-to-bosom with their buddy demons their whole lives 11:38 K2: Gotta enforce those treaties somehow 11:39 it is like, my wife is a werewolf, so *i* don't carry silver knives on me 11:39 I don't think salamanders marry out 11:40 so, i've killed like 10 of the 15 white and silver dragons with kathryn -- no scales 11:42 do scales not drop there any more? or did scale chances change with dtsund? otherwise the rng is starting to look pretty cruel 11:43 alright, 1 for 15 11:47 2/16, odds just backloaded :-) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:77973 11:51 scale drop odds did not change 11:51 1/3 on initial kill, 1/20 if you revive them 11:52 0% chance if the dragon is tame 11:52 (last bit is an evilhack thing) 11:59 oh, didn't know tameness thing, cute 12:00 yeah i was just rolling with my normal aplomb on the first like 13/14 kills 12:00 man now you gotta let me forge like 6 diamonds into 1 dilithium crystal :-) 12:01 i never noticed the grave next to kathryn's throne 12:01 ohhh puppy :-( 12:02 :/ 12:02 in her prime - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2559/source 12:02 don't forget dilithium can only spawn after like dlvl 26 or something in main dungeon 12:05 makes sense, don't think i ever knew that 12:06 you can find it in the miens though 12:06 mines 12:06 pegasus didn't make it off the level, random zombie 12:07 you need barding for it 12:07 this was zombie illness 12:07 they are just too fragile 12:07 i'd rather mount my arch lich 12:07 sicko 12:07 i want a skeletal pegasus 12:07 dire pegaghoul 12:08 barding protects a steeds head like a hard helmet does 12:08 you didnt know that? 12:08 oh seriously? thought it was just a loser placeholder for spiked or polished 12:08 nope did not know 12:08 anyhow no barding my game so far 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2595 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:92948 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) murdered Slasher, her faithful little dog, on T:517 13:25 R needs a few more monsters in its class. putrifier, rots food in inventory and corpses on floor. fermenter, turns potions in inventory into booze. etc 13:31 dwarves keep fermenters as pets 13:33 see the redesign writes itself 13:33 some mobs to stick in the gnome king's cellar 13:34 R: rod polisher. wands in open inventory can lose a charge and become greased. ewwwwwww 13:34 sorry that is a slexgestion 13:41 yuk 13:41 hahah this hostile dorf just raided the tool shop in minetown and brought me a dragonhide bag of holding 13:42 imma gonna die 13:42 i wish i could be excited about dragonhide bags of holding but unless you have a habit of dropping your bag in lava it is really just an extra-heavy bag 13:42 hmm no 13:42 doesn't it like weigh 5aum more? 13:42 if you have fixed water walking boots, you can walk over lava without worrying about your bag burning up 13:43 well, if you have fixed water walking boots you can walk over lava without worrying about your normal cloth bag burning up too 13:43 can't you? 13:43 no 13:43 srsly? 13:43 seriously 13:43 it splashes or something? 13:43 i guess i've become so used to flying i never water walk any more 13:43 if you walk over lava, anything in open inventory that's flammable will burn up 13:43 man the things i've forgotten 13:43 unless its fooproofed 13:44 so your blindfold/towel will burn? 13:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 13:44 yes 13:44 so water walking is bad 13:44 its been this way since the beginning 13:44 no it isnt 13:44 lol 13:44 i am rubber water walking is glue 13:47 alright time for me to go catch covid in a movie theater for mother's day weekend 13:47 cough on ya later 13:50 cya 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 7207 points, T:4821, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede, while fainted from lack of food 13:59 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:08 terrapin: Message from K2 at 2022-05-07 01:36 EDT: congrats!! \o/ 14:08 terrapin: Message from mobileuser at 2022-05-07 07:16 EDT: congrats terrapin! 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 515 points, T:2537, killed by a giant mimic 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 361 points, T:1834, killed by a dart 14:40 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 31113 points, T:22781, killed by a clay golem 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 136 points, T:395, killed by falling down a mine shaft 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 651 points, T:2567, killed by falling down a mine shaft 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una) averted death (killed by a flint stone), on T:688 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 1533 points, T:1153, killed by the Goblin King 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 736 points, T:3910, killed by a rope golem 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:1321 15:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4748 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2330 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:10451 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3261 points, T:3957, killed by a wolf 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4432 15:50 Those lgxia Lolth bones are gonna be a fun surprise for someone 15:53 'meh, I guess I'll tame this housecat. I have a m. whistle, now' 15:53 *instant karma - huge potion shop on the floor* 15:53 :D 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1194 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 654 points, T:2544, killed by a rothe 16:06 musicdemon nice one! :-) 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:6447 16:16 hi 16:16 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 16:21 lmao 16:21 I path onto a square, thinking it's a forge. Nope, lava 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 29027 points, T:11275, burned by molten lava 16:23 D: 16:23 nooo 16:24 :( 16:24 *Led Zeppelin's "Nobody's Fault but Mine" fades out, as the centaur's corpse slowly sinks into the lava* 16:24 heh 16:25 terrapin congrats on last nights asc 16:25 Yeah! 16:25 \o/ 16:25 oh thanks! 16:25 wow, congrats! Nice job 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a wooden key on an altar, on T:5919 16:25 valk centaur right? 16:25 yeah 16:26 i bet that was fun 16:27 yup! just hit things until they die, unless it had bad passive attacks, in which case I'd fire/frost horn them until they died. easy mode for a newbie like me :) 16:28 if you ascend evilhack, you are not a newbie :) 16:28 STONE barding. For those who want to torture their mount 16:28 Yeah no kidding 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had 19 silver shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1574 16:31 Niiiiiice 16:31 oooh snap 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4191 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:8743 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:21502 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a spellbook of detect treasure given to her by Thoth, on T:9280 16:48 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3112 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 8298 points, T:9735, killed by a silver dragon 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Arc Trt Fem Law), 353 points, T:288, killed by a giant spider 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Mal Cha), 4136 points, T:3340, killed by a white unicorn 16:52 nymph riding a unicorn :| 16:53 those silver shuriken I got? shuriken of fire 16:53 Sweet 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8308 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha), 576 points, T:665, killed by the Goblin King 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1137 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3293 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 crude daggers on an altar, on T:4097 17:47 should dirge still provide acid resist when part of a dual wield combo? 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:94548 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Kos, on T:2805 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 410 points, T:1821, killed by a water demon 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:95790 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic harp", on T:95798 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:2970 18:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 18:36 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4519 18:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 18:43 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 18:45 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4270 points, T:5128, killed by a jaguar 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:8601 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:8601 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 1989 points, T:4396, killed by a housecat 19:23 may have to revise my crystal plate requirement. Bone splint is on 1AC less than cpm, and it's 57aum lighter. Seems like an excellent alternative unless I'm missing something 19:27 bone splint mail is pretty awesome. No casting penalty (for me anyway), super light, excellent AC. 19:33 i was experimenting with bone and do get a casting penalty with bone plate as a knight 19:33 maybe splint is different? although not sure why it would be 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:11346 19:37 as a knight I'm pretty much just casting mm, restore ability, and remove curse. They're all 0% fail with it on. 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 115 points, T:569, killed by a dart 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:29, killed by a sewer rat 19:39 you wearing a robe? 19:39 yes. I forgot about that 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 118 points, T:356, killed by a goblin 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 264 points, T:1838, killed by a sea tortle 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her Bag of the Hesperides, on T:83185 20:19 sigh 20:19 bobbled a key and it all went in 20:19 :( 20:21 dramborleg, excalibur, etc all blown up 20:31 best possible place, too, surrounded by water :-) 20:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 21:04 alright, i've learned a lot about digging pits in ice in water levels now 21:06 k2: freeze and dig out water. gradually pits fill back in with water randomly, without respect for where they are -- cool, whatever, water bubbles in from underneath etc. BUT, then, you walk with water walking boots and white-scaled armor onto the water, and you get this message: "The water crackles and freezes under your feet. You fall into your pit!" and fall in the pit with no ice in evidence 21:07 i think there either needs to be a special message ("The water crackles and freezes under your weight. The ice breaks under your weight! You fall into your pit!" 21:07 OR, the pit should be filled in when water returns 21:07 i'm guessing solution (a) will be preferable 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a cloth helm of speed, on T:14557 21:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:86962 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:15176 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:23533 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:15915 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed ring of p'hul", on T:15936 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of telepathy", on T:87372 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16500 21:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:2709 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24994 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:28194 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 86658 points, T:17661, killed by a blast of water 22:10 bouquet - yes dirge should give acid res even when wielded off-hand 22:11 concerning armor - see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Other_Changes (2nd bullet) 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:87974 22:19 krm26 weird 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 382 points, T:1796, killed by a bugbear 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:88038 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 1579467 points, T:88201, killed by a touch of death 22:28 haha, forgot to finish my complex gear swapping to keep mr 22:28 dramborleg's bookkeeping did me in 22:29 noooo 22:30 k2, did you see my water-ice-pit note above? 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:31835 22:35 copycat, coplate! i blew up the hesperides earlier tonight :-) 22:36 over water 22:46 krm26 i did 22:47 I said 'weird' about it 22:48 ah. was sure you were just calling me weird again 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33184 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26869 22:52 heh 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 rustproof helm of speed", on T:27576 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:98318 23:13 dang krm26 brutal 23:13 same thing happened to me on vlad. Swapped my amulet of MR for flying and ran into a lich. 23:18 stupid is as stupid does -- i've asscanned like 4 ascendable runs since my last actual ascension :-) 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:28445 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:99171 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:99196 23:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 555747 points, T:29400, killed by a balrog