00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:2072 00:07 @e?shocking sphere 00:07 shocking sphere (e) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 13 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 4d6 explode shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, infravisible 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) genocided shocking spheres, on T:79634 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:79869 00:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5049 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 9847 points, T:5476, petrified by trying to help a basilisk out of a pit 00:40 lol what 00:41 !lastgame coplate 00:41 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/coplate/evilhack/dumplog/1651804178.evil.html 01:03 -!- Not-7fae has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:00 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 02:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3682 02:50 wow, "petrified by trying to help a basilisk out of a pit" is some unique death 02:57 !tell VaderFLAG for throwing an aklys unskilled there is no to-hit penalty like there is for melee. so you just have the standard -2 at unskilled. 02:57 Will do, mobileuser! 03:16 It's the "touched a trice with no gloves" death as applied to untrapping a pet 03:17 yup, don't touch your basilisk without gloves 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2384 03:25 Well shit 03:26 You have a little trouble lifting z - a copper knife named Secespita (5 aum). 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3009 03:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) murdered Kerosene, her faithful warhorse, on T:61134 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 6729 points, T:3353, killed by a gnome lady 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 143 points, T:282, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 03:59 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a titan, on T:8059 05:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8709 06:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:13 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:32 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 07:32 -!- sodium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.0 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 07:32 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 07:33 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1117 08:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:08 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6089 08:08 -!- Guest6089 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:46509 08:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:00 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:67606 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67694 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67696 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:67742 09:19 go go go VaderFLAG! 09:22 Feeling uneasy about this 09:22 VaderFLAG: Message from mobileuser at 2022-05-06 02:57 EDT: for throwing an aklys unskilled there is no to-hit penalty like there is for melee. so you just have the standard -2 at unskilled. 09:22 Oh yeah, so turns out the -2 plus graz stealing your luckstone ends up with too many misses 09:23 at least tortles don't wear much for graz'zt to steal 09:24 not tempted to tame that dragon and let him disintegrate everything? 09:24 He is tame 09:24 Takes too long to wait for him to do it all 09:24 i guess i don't see your taming symbol, or you don't use them 09:25 Is there an option to underline tame critters? 09:25 yup 09:25 OPTIONS=hilite_pet 09:25 That's hilighting, not underlining, right? 09:25 hilited black dragons always look the same to me 09:26 oh i see 09:26 i'm not sure if hilight can be customized, but mine is underline 09:26 oh interesting 09:26 Well I gotta figure out how to do that 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:67913 09:27 might be dependent on symset? don't see anything obv in my rc 09:28 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:67963 09:30 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:53 quick! only 7 minutes left on the 30 minute ascension timer VaderFLAG! 09:54 Geez I had no idea I was being timed 09:55 gotta give you a challenge 10:05 wizards are so gross 10:05 haha 10:06 Yes that's a good word for it 10:07 but what do you do when a -40ac mr wizard shows up and yanks your amulet? 10:07 "just wait for a dragon to eat him" 10:07 Well Mr Wizard is only a problem on the plane of water prepatch 10:07 bloody wizards 10:07 1-3 cone of cold blasts does him in 10:08 plus I actually got long sword unlocked this time so I can vorpal him if something goes sideways 10:08 the dragons are too low to eat them but a woolly will headbut him for a couple more FOOLS 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:49903 10:10 wizards and infidels for the win 10:11 advanced cone of cold is sooo good 10:12 heh 10:12 go VaderFLAG go 10:13 getting close to the fun part 10:13 i'm still a teeny bit salty about my dumb death yesterday 10:13 Yeah I would be too 10:13 The second you saw that alhoon you shoulda noped out of there 10:13 i had 3 wishes available 10:13 hey last month i died to drawbridges twice and salamandar lava once -- dumb deaths are the way of the future 10:14 https://i.giphy.com/media/XeLcgh8gT8o0F5SQ8i/giphy.webp 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69481 10:15 He is not giving me a break today 10:16 Usually I don't hit five until the planes 10:16 really? >5 is standard for me before leaving the dungeon and i prep my route so everything is a direct line 10:16 you should try using my rng, it is a blast 10:17 lol 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:69754 10:24 lucky, earth is the best first plane 10:24 Yeah it's not bad 10:24 I actually would have preferred water first 10:24 really? i like my guaranted wizard in a tiny cave 10:25 I wanted some revenge blowing him up in water 10:25 You're not wrong that earth is a nice place to have him 10:25 i think i like earth >>> water > fire > air 10:25 But I got score to settle 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:3261 10:34 not gonna swim for it 10:36 I would rather not blank all my scrolls 10:36 This'll be two tortle ascensions where I never went in the water 10:39 wow really 10:39 i go swimming in the gnomish mines regularly as tortle 10:40 if i have an oilskin sack 10:40 lots of kelp 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:70043 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:70045 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:70141 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:70150 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 8617 points, T:5807, killed by a dwarf lord 10:49 Yay 10:49 lol 10:49 what? you're cheering my death? 10:49 BASTARD 10:49 nah 10:49 :P 10:50 coming up... 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 3653344 points, T:70182, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1651536795.evil.html 10:50 NUDIST 10:50 \o/ 10:50 congrats!! 10:50 you're amazing VaderFLAG 10:50 Ok so the craziest part about that nudist thing is that RIGHT before I'm about to kill the wizard I accidentally pray on the altar too early because I misread enlightentment message 10:50 And lost all my protection 10:50 after all priests were dead 10:51 wow 10:51 nudist 10:51 -13, I wouldn't even go on the quest with that :b 10:51 is this the first nudist evilhack asc? 10:51 So that's why I'm -13, it's -10 natural plus 3 protection boons from the god after I fucked it up 10:51 so am i the only one who routinely struggles with unkillable rodneys who instantly grab the amulet and clone? 10:51 No that happens sometimes 10:51 i've never had that problem 10:51 It didn't happen to me this time though 10:51 benefits of never making it past the midgame 10:52 haha 10:52 you had me going there for a minute qt 10:52 was about to eat your liver 10:52 yeah i think this is first nudist asc 10:52 Tortle nudist feels like a cheat 10:52 nah 10:53 almost instadied several times with unexpected blind + cockatrice corpses lying about 10:53 you're still foregoing all sorts of benefits from wearing armor, even what limited pieces you can wear 10:53 Oh for sure - not having zombie bite protection is a big problem 10:55 i bet your three lowest turn ascensions added together are faster than my fastest ascension 10:55 I actually highly recommend nudist wizard for anyone else insane. It was fun in a not wanting to bash my brains in like some of the other weird conducts 10:55 did you still wield a weapon, or totally nude? 10:56 Couldn't have done it without magicbane 10:56 never say never 10:56 amputee ascension coming up 10:56 also couldn';t have done it without aklys 10:56 tortle lends itself well to nudist/pacifist 10:56 I don't know how a nudist weaponless wizard would even start thinking about killing graz'zt 10:56 well, you don't always get graz'zt 10:57 Or tiamat for that matter 10:57 boulder fort and drain until a pet gets him tho 10:57 Can't drain those guys 10:57 immune to all elements 10:57 I guess you forge a bajillion silver daggers 10:57 and hope that you don't run out 10:57 thrown doesn't count against pacifist? no way 10:57 Oh I was talking about weaponless nudist 10:57 or weaponless rather 10:58 pacifist is another story 10:58 meant weaponless 10:58 so weaponless means never wielded? 10:58 It's 'never hit with a wielded weapon', isn't it? 10:59 has to be wielded, has to be a weapon 10:59 which is why cream pies are so useful for pacifist 11:01 you can hit with weapon all day as pacifist, you just cant kill 11:02 I'm a pacifist, I kneecap guys for the mob 11:02 pacifist weaponless nudist 11:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:08 dammit, i am incapable of not starving my mounts 11:09 Oh I see you too wait until they go crazed from hunger and start kicking your ass 11:12 damn i hate when something confused your archlich pet which is twice your level 11:18 jeez is he perma-confused 11:24 i'm scared of leaving arch lich pets alone on a level to let confusion wear off because i've got no way to reestablish tameness 11:24 and he's level 28 and i'm level 14 11:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 11:53 hardfought must be doing something more important than my lame nethack game 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3069 12:00 could you give them a unihorn? 12:01 does that work? never even occured to me 12:01 Yeah you can take it right back after they use it too 12:02 If you don't have a spare that is 12:02 got tons of spares, you guys are brilliant. i've never really been into heavy petting 12:03 will liches wear blessed gear? 12:16 i dont think so? 12:16 i cant ever remember this one 12:16 I would guess yes, but easy to test out 12:17 next thing you're gonna want me to chew my own food 12:19 looks like they will 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2148 12:49 first chance he had the arch lich took off the helm of speed i gave him to put on a bone orcish piece of crap 12:49 must really like bone 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha), 2557 points, T:3057, killed by an ape 13:10 damn i thought my arch lich might clear the medusa waters for me but looks like he doesn't care about killing eels 13:19 k2: did loot probabilities change at all in 0.80? i'm assuming so far i've just been having a weirdly consist run of low-loot games 13:21 no 13:23 ok, just me violating normal probabilities again 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 39 points, T:236, killed by a gas cloud 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:56190 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 10778 points, T:7431, killed by a giant mummy 13:51 it is fun how gnolls carry disassembled aklyses now 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Fem Una), 2008 points, T:3878, killed by a gold golem 13:57 krm26: you made me lol at "heavy petting"! 13:59 what I like about the new #forge game is that it gives me something to do while I try to build up my courage to explore deeper. 14:04 it lets me turn gnollstorms into disposable aklyses to clean out medusa eels on shitty runs like this where i've got bupkis 14:04 and it will let me make a cool lance i can use for the 7 turns before my pegasus dies under me 14:04 so it is a big win 14:06 I just realized I need to go back and pick up all those silver arrows so I can make silver daggers 14:06 i've started to leave piles at the downstairs of any useful forging crap to make it easy to run back and check for stuff 14:07 is anyone doing anything other than the aklys recipe and the knight's lance recipes (feeder glaive and javelin) 14:08 I plan to make a fancy halberd and crystal plate 14:12 just need 1 more dilithium crystal 14:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:24 oops, so, do i pick the armor or the scales when i want them to merge? or should i have taken off everything else but before reading the scroll? 14:26 i would guess you need to select the scales? 14:26 I don't know how it interacts with the 'select the armor to enchant' thing 14:26 but that seems like it'd make the most sense, I think the way merging works behind the scenes involves the scales being the object enchanted 14:27 the evilhack wiki page is weird, it says "Reading enchant armor while wearing scales will always target the scales (rather than picking randomly)" which is clearly lifted from the original dtsund patch but does not apply to evilhack 14:27 who updates that, Umbire? 14:27 selecting the scales worked, next time i'll try selecting the armor and see what that does 14:28 it probably does still apply to unIDed enchant armor I guess 14:28 maybe so 14:28 lol 14:29 ok I tested it, it's funny 14:29 no matter what you select the scale merging happens 14:29 so you can select your hat and it'll still override you to merge the scales 14:29 that should probably be changed to either bypass the selection entirely, or honor it even if you're wearing scales 14:29 eww, yeah, that is a gross interface contract violation 14:30 hey, K2 deliberately never signed that contract 14:30 i wonder if that means reading an IDd enchant scroll while wearing scales but NO armor (and maybe gloves, etc) lets you pick the gloves to enchant and then polymorphs you into a dragon 14:31 i think with the ID'd selection it should probably just merge when the scales are selected 14:31 or skip the selection when wearing scales 14:31 this might complicate the huge benefit of IDd enchanting in the endgame, letting you repair armor without taking stuff off 14:32 meaning now confused id'd enchant armor polymorphs you instead of letting you repair (if wearing scales) 14:33 if wearing scales and no body armor? 14:34 the wiki says if confused and wearing scales the merge and poly you if wearing armor 14:36 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:37 can't believe aosdict didn't futureproof the dtsund-dsm patch against being able to select enchantment target 14:37 smh my head 14:37 he's well known for being a shortsighted hothead 14:50 yeah you're right krm26, it will turn you into a dragon. even if you're not confused, if you're wearing dragon-scales armor and scales as a cloak and try to enchant your helm or something, the scales will overwrite the existing scales on your armor. that would suck 14:50 "leave aosdict alone!" 14:51 yeah, i don't think k2 intended this, after how firmly he crushed my whines about how armor selection with id'd enchant trivialized late-game armor repair :-) 14:51 or, maybe, he just doesn't intend anyone where scales as a cloak after early/midgame 14:51 where/wear 14:51 yeah I'm sure it was an oversight 14:52 I'm glad K2 doesn't listen to whines to nerf things ;-) 14:53 it was an oversight 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:57628 15:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:57684 15:15 dammit, if that spear wasn't dwarvish i could forge it into something i want :-( 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 217 points, T:739, killed by a giant mimic 15:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a banded mail entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2420 15:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a cloak of protection entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2945 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:61269 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an orange dragon, on T:84182 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:62010 16:05 sigh, empty wand of wishing chest and no wand in evidence 16:05 blurf 16:06 where are the crystal chests when you need em 16:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2882 points, T:4988, killed by the Goblin King 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:59637 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:62119 16:12 ooh 2 xbox bolts of frost! i can make a javelin of frost and then a mithril lance of frost now 16:12 i'm not sure how to fix the armor selection bit while wearing scales 16:12 ah right... magic mirror of merlin provides reflection now, not MR. 16:12 i'll work on it later 16:13 not sure what design to use? or how to implement? 16:14 my unasked 2 cents of design: scales meld/poly after selection, everything else unchanged. if enchant armor unided scales can be randomly targeted along with any other gear 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of teleport control", on T:62265 16:24 finally found it... at least he didn't wish for scrolls of charging so it is just 0:0 16:28 hey why doesn't my tortle healer start with a toque :-( 16:30 unplayable 16:30 you traded it for that awesome scalpel 16:30 you can at least give it a 0 AC toque 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:62471 16:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4351 16:41 it says "You have been an atheist" in conduct, but I'm not ded yet 16:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:41 unless I don't quite grasp english tenses 16:42 oh when dead it would be "You were" I guess 16:45 like "You have been an atheist [so far]" 16:46 it does sound a little awkward to me too, but I can't really think of a better way to say "You are currently, and always have been, an atheist" concisely off the top of my head 16:46 that would be a bit star trek sounding :b 16:47 "y'all ain't done no god stuff" 16:48 haha! 16:48 can we run nethack through the redneck translator? 16:48 I tried playing through lolcat and it crashed after 1 move. 16:49 a trident on level 2, but my dog doesn't want to touch it :-( 16:50 hahaha bouquet this is awesome 16:50 it's not crashing for me 16:52 https://0x0.st/omsl.mp4 16:54 hallu should do that 16:55 i was in the middle of writing the same thing when you said that amateurhour 16:55 oh I am so sorry, feel free to pretend I never said it so you can feel the joy 16:56 hey, you know what? it'd be cool if hallucination did something like that 16:56 pretty creative idea, right? 16:56 woah qt that's a great idea 16:56 thanks 16:56 YANI ^ 16:57 victor nails it again! 16:58 picking race/role/gender/align looks great too https://0x0.st/omsU.mp4 17:04 very "slexy" 17:04 interestingly 'ssh hdf | lolcat' looks way worse, for some reason. each line is a totally different color instead of having smooth gradients -- I assume this has something to do with SSH buffering output by line or something? 17:05 finally, a use for lolcat! 17:07 Sign of a real programmer is one that uses emacs piped through lolcat for their IDE. 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:63570 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:63571 17:11 YANI: tortles don't fumble on ice, their claws give them a good grip 17:11 ^ K2 17:11 tortles dont like the cold, they dont have enouhg practice walking on ice 17:11 *enough 17:12 YANI: when a tortle is cold resistant... etc 17:12 :b 17:13 k2 can you make a lolcat windowport for evilhack? 17:13 hah 17:15 "Welcome to Siverek's used armor dealership!" what do you have for tortles good sir... 17:19 some gloves and shield, but the zombie brigade has arrived so it will be game over pretty soon anyway :-) 17:21 if you can't beat 'em, join em'! 17:26 heh 17:27 omg... 17:27 https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ujwevt/a_few_too_many_beans_i_guess/ 17:27 "polished shield" doesn't give an AC reduction... 17:27 look at the cat! 17:29 is the wiki wrong on rigid hats/gloves? 17:29 "hats and gloves made of any kind of hard or rigid material interfere with their ability to retreat into their shell" 17:30 no 17:30 why do you ask 17:30 mobileuser: that's the sort of lore reason k2 came up with but the actual effect in game is that you aren't allowed to wear them at all, not that they have any effect on your shell 17:30 this suggests you can wear them, but you can't then use the "hide inside shell" option anymore 17:31 oh lore reason 17:31 i think it makes more sense that tortles just have weirdly shaped hands and head lol 17:32 they have pointy heads 17:32 any reason my +0 shield doesn't reduce AC? 17:32 oh sorry 17:32 I was wrong 17:33 forgot I was trying to put on rigid gloves in vain :b 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1628 points, T:4753, quit 17:48 in this new dragon armor era i might actually have to wish for some crystal plate mail 17:49 if you can't find any plate and dilithium crystals laying around. That's my backup plan. 17:50 hmm, what happens when you use non-dilithium crystals in the forge? is the plate lost? (like unided white gems) 17:50 @e?Demogorgon 17:50 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 17:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:50 does Demogorgon have a stunning attack? 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:64357 17:51 I guess it's moot now 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Con Hum Mal Cha), 43 points, T:232, killed by a jackal 17:51 heh 17:51 but he does not 17:52 he is mainly a diseaser 17:52 casts, drains, diseases 17:52 it was probably just the spell, but a couple times it seemed like I got stunned without him casting. I think I just can't read messages 17:52 yeah, the arcane spellcast can stun you 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:02 he definitely stuns. He's a total jerkface. 18:04 demogorgon can stun with the disease attack iirc 18:04 in vanilla 18:05 oh I see it on the vanilla wiki now. good to know! 18:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had a mithril elven dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:39394 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 529 points, T:1827, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:33 wild. Had a weredemon show up in the main dungeon. I've never seen one out of gehennom 18:34 a summons? 18:34 a shapechanger? 18:34 a glitch in the matrix? 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:63243 18:38 I had on my ring of protection from shapechangers. 18:38 no summons happened afaik 18:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:53 k2: petition, should be able to use glass materials in forge too! 18:53 it makes sense and you already use crystals to make crystal plate mail in the forge 18:53 let people make glass lances 18:54 or blown glass christmas ornaments 18:55 ...i found every single polearm type among the castle army EXCEPT glaive :-) 19:15 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:16 glaive = short sword + spear 19:19 \ 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:86756 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Kos, on T:87070 20:06 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:21 wasssup 20:22 hello 20:22 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 20:22 new keyboard 20:23 gonna kick some ass now... spilled an entire beer in the old one 20:25 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 765 points, T:1317, killed by an imp 20:41 krm26 - if you try to use objects not part of any recipe, it just doesnt work. you dont lose anything 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2705 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the dwarven priestess of Ptah, on T:4345 21:05 so i can just use 3 white gems until i hit upon the dilithium 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:4843 21:18 haha, genius 21:18 GENIUS 21:19 that's a pretty clever idea 21:19 it would be clever except of course they are so flipping rare that they are always the last ones you find :-) 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:711 21:41 a little bit of a letdown that there is no way to combine a material and a property with forging 21:42 i have to make 2 intermediate recipes to make a lance, so i have 4 "origin" objects, but my resulting lance is going to just be the same as one of the initial 4 21:43 on the other hand, that means if you find like a mithril of venom something you might be able to walk that combo through a large series of forgings and out the other end as the desired weapon type 21:48 if the second object doesn't have a property, doesn't the first object's property carry over along with the second's material? 21:49 I've never done it, but I think that's how it works 21:59 that wasn't how i heard it described but you may be right 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2398 22:02 so, secondary material is used unless illegal in which case primary object material is used. secondary property is used if exists, otherwise primary property is used. 22:03 making me go read code, the nerve! 22:04 haha sorry 22:12 qt you about? 22:13 ok, so with my renewed understanding i was able to fab a few mithril lances of frost 22:13 sad i can't make bone 22:13 bone burns 22:14 you cant forge bone 22:14 not dragonbone! 22:14 checkmate 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:69859 22:16 "we'll never survive!" "nonsense! you're only saying that because no one ever has!" 22:21 thanks for my first wand of death, Yeenoghu 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:5062 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:69996 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of protection", on T:70015 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:69277 22:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:90736 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible coplate's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6868 23:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class m), on T:7377 23:19 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:70598 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:70601 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:70607 23:42 "The infernal trident burns the lava demon." Not that I'm complaining, but is Angelslayer supposed to burn fire-resistant monsters? 23:46 HELLO 23:46 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:70805 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:70807 23:59 =i798*****************\]