00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4947 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7559 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:7571 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7950 00:25 -!- Not-9244 has quit [*.net *.split] 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 7377 points, T:8514, killed by a gnome lord 00:28 -!- lacca[m] has quit [*.net *.split] 00:30 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 00:38 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:39 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:52461 02:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:54 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:32 oh grate, i got the sewers 03:34 !tell ssnufd i hope your wish will be greasy 03:34 No worries, NetSysFire, I've got this! 03:36 a killer bee dropping an amulet of magical breathing. ironic, if you consider anaphylactic shock irl 03:37 i'll shock your anaphys 03:38 * NetSysFire quickly eats a tin of blue dragon 03:38 "There is a pool of raw sewage here. You see here a magenta spellbook." 03:38 * NetSysFire hides this very minor exploit under a rug 03:40 alright and i found another bug 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Mal Una), 28 points, T:74, killed by an arrow 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 0 points, T:2, killed by trying to drink molten lava 03:40 i couldnt see the giant leech, yet "The giant leech snaps wildly and misses!" at the zombie nearby 03:42 should be "It snaps wildly and misses the kobold zombie!" 03:44 hmm i also think this leech might have been hiding 03:45 @e?giant leech 03:45 giant leech (w) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 8 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 5 | Attacks: 2d6 bite sticky | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, passes-bars 03:45 awwww its w, it would be more fun if it would be a bug (a). heh 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2577 04:17 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a mithril spear entrusted to him by Kos, on T:58101 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:58260 04:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12830 04:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4424 points, T:3927, killed by a champion of Venus 04:34 "his blood slowly seeping out from under him, spreading across the cavern floor." 04:34 i killed him with psionic wave 04:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:17199 04:38 brain hemorrhage 04:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:24 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:60703 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:64626 07:45 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 08:06 NetSysFire there's similar verbage when you kill various quest nemeses. I wouldnt worry about it 08:07 but i do! 08:07 also, for purely strategic reasons, when is the birthday of your daughter? 08:07 your psionics are pointy 08:07 i forget 08:08 you can tell because when kathryn kills you on her birthday she leaves cake crumbs on your corpse 08:24 you dont have to worry about her birthday coming up for awhile 08:28 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:102459 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:102463 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a spectre, on T:102611 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) became permanently transformed into a spectre, on T:102611 09:27 wtf 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu), 3283835 points, T:102615, killed while stuck in creature form 09:28 i guess i should have been paying atttention, had no idea something like that could happen 09:28 annnnd i'm goddamn done with tortles :-) 09:29 oof krm26 :-( 09:30 !lastgame krm26 09:30 i guess spectres can stack some spectering thing on you or something that turns you into a spectre? never knew 09:30 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1651063063.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 09:32 presumably happened (other than because obviously i was working on something else and not paying any attention and my nethackrc didn't warn me) because my damage output was so awful since i was in vlad's and using a drain resistance shield instead of a second weapon 09:32 I would have to see the ttyrec, did you get "killed" by a spectre before that? Sometimes that changes you into a spectre I think. 09:32 i guess, could be 09:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:32 again, wasn't paying any attention 09:32 A spectre asc would have been epic... :-( 09:32 oh well 09:32 ^ amateurhour 09:32 i can say that playing a tortle past the midgame is the least fun i've had in evilhack in, ever 09:33 difficulty through not using equipment is not my cup of tea 09:34 i do think that tortles need some kind of additional slight high level racial buff -- a little extra damage reduction, or resistance, or something. 09:34 yeah, giants have equipment problems too, but have lots of other good stuff going for them 09:35 think losing 3 item slot is about as severe as i can go. and giants can dual 2h for a slight bump 09:35 maybe i'd let tortles tie a tshit around their neck as a tie :-) 09:37 or let them #forge some kinds of armor on to the outside of their shells 09:38 damn 09:39 in my head originally it'd be enforced nudist BUT you'd get a buttload of ac from levelling up 09:40 idk where this slower and bad dex thing came from 09:40 its a turtle 09:40 it's a tortle 09:40 same thing 09:41 might be a bit rude to call a tortle a turtle idk 09:41 neither are nimble 09:41 krm26 didnt lose because of his dexterity score 09:42 heh 09:42 just had 100k turns about complaining about not hitting 09:42 from the low dex 09:42 no, whatever happened, it was just me ignoring shit 09:42 yeah you could win as nudist zen atheist weaponless by not ignoring shit 09:42 5820 creatures vanquished. 09:42 yeah the inability to hit anything above about ~-28ac ish was bad 09:42 right 09:43 couldnt hit 5820 monsters but they died anyways :) 09:43 often there are other strategies you can use to deal with really bad damage output, barbarian doesn't have much of a toolset there tho 09:43 I'm not saying it was literally impossible to hit anything... 09:43 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:44 in fact it looks like i've never ascended a barbarian in evilhack 09:46 tortle has its challenges but there are ways to get around those 09:46 you gonna do anymore tortles? 09:46 nothing stopping you from wearing gauntlets of dexterity or wearing/eating rings of increase accuracy 09:47 me? no, at least not for a long time. it is much more challenging, but seems like a conduct -- you are voluntarily sacrificing a lot and trying to make it work. it didn't ADD something fun, like i found with giants/centaurs 09:47 increase accuracy was gemstone or i would have eaten the crap out of them 09:47 gauntlets of dex would have given me a total of +1 to hit 09:47 doesnt sound very fun 09:47 ok so 09:48 that's fine, there is nothing wrong with having races that are just super tough 09:48 what could we add to tortle race to make it more fun without making things OP or unbalanced? 09:48 remove the slowness 09:48 i've been thinking really hard about that 09:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:10163 09:48 something that wouldn't change their nature really 09:49 think about it... i'll be back soon. its definitely monday here at work :/ 09:49 i do think that a single additional piece of gear would have a HUGE impact on their general difficulty but understand why you aren't interested in that 09:51 i think something worth thinking about is making their "shell" MC1 at level 10, MC2 at level 20, MC3 at level 30, with maybe a small amount of damage reduction at the higher levels too. And maybe MC3/additional damage reduction when enshelled 09:52 i don't know if my offensive difficulty was an idiosyncracy of barbarians, or of how i play, or something inevitable because of their speed 09:53 i will say that associating low speed with tortles is fine but it certainly doesn't necessarily have a real-world justification. i've seen a softshell turtle book across a yard fast as a lightning bolt, and they can really strike also 09:53 or in 5e where their speed is same as human 09:53 since non-herbivorous chelonians are ambush predators, i'd also think about giving them some kind of bonus surprise attacks when they de-enshell 09:54 so that enshelling isn't just an oh crap thing but also lets you "pounce" afterwards (to escape, or to kill) 09:54 in 5e they have an extra beak attack? 09:55 I don't think so? just that their claws work for unarmed 09:56 (I hope you don't take my feedback the wrong way k2, i really appreciate all the work you put into this variant, and it would be weird if i loved EVERYTHING you did :-) 09:59 one other tortle-related thing; something i personally find unpleasant is that for the first half of the game like 95% of the gear drops are junk for tortles. i also don't like that as giant, to a lesser extend, and as a centaur for boots -- it is understandable i think. wow awesome dragonhide...boots :-( 09:59 that is ok, but something #forging opens up in my mind is potentially a way to use unusable items for some other early-game purpose 09:59 like a way to take the material of the boots you can't wear and glom them on to a cloak you can, or something 10:00 obviously you can easily make something like that way to good, but just a notion bouncing around in my head so a tortle would actually look at drops a little in the early game 10:00 in the late game none of that matters obv 10:00 more of an "engagement" mechanic for the first 15 dls 10:01 tortles just supersize the feelings i already had in that direction re: giants 10:05 just blame your parents that made you a tortle? 10:05 i wanna talk more with vaderflag about his tortle 10:06 i'm disappointed i killed mine *just* before starting the ascension run, i was really curious to see what the wizard and the sanctum would be like 10:07 that sounds naughty. I still having internalized "tortle" being a new race 10:07 *not having internalized 10:07 (I was predicting the sanctum with a single rodney appearance would 100% doom me, and my performance with a little vampire mage summons in vlad's tower makes me think I was right) 10:09 i think something worth thinking about is making their "shell" MC1 at level 10, MC2 at level 20, MC3 at level 30, with maybe a small amount of damage reduction at the higher levels too. And maybe MC3/additional damage reduction when enshelled <--- the MC increase is interesting. tortles already take half phys damage when enshelled 10:10 maybe a speed of 8 was too much. could maybe raise it up to 10, but there's no way a tortle would be just as fast as a human 10:10 the more I dive into 5e, the more it feels like the WotC caved and made easy mode for new ad&d players 10:11 krm26 - I do appreciate the feedback, especially if there are ideas for improvements 10:12 i will admit, sometimes when all i see are complaints, it wears on me. i try to not let it, but some days its difficult 10:12 makes me wish i were vulcan like bhaak 10:13 i mean all my whining well! even if a lot of my analysis is actually right, and nothing changes, this is a cool challenge race 10:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:12409 10:15 might be too complex to fiddle with but could be a "sliding scale" for tortle speed/defense, where the more you beat on the tortle the more they pull in their limbs -- better ac, slower speed. so based on the damage/round they have been taking for the last n rounds, their speed and ac adjust 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:66329 10:15 so just sub-human running around the dungeon, or when things can't really dent their defenses 10:15 but when they are really taking it, their defense gets better, but they slow down 10:15 obv. that isn't necessarily "good" for them :-) 10:16 heh 10:16 fucking monday... 10:16 so over the weekend one of our remote locations lost power for a few hours 10:16 the SAN did not power back up gracefully, which means none of the virtual servers came back up 10:17 messing with that currently 10:17 what's a SAN? 10:17 https://www.webopedia.com/definitions/san/ <- this thing? 10:17 storage area network 10:17 big hard drive array 10:18 i can ping it, but i cant access the control panel 10:18 its not fully initializing 10:19 it's like a NAS? or multiple networked NASs..NASes...NASses?? 10:19 they are similar in function 10:19 what's the plural of NAS? 10:19 NAS 10:20 no wait 10:20 it's 'gnolls witherling' 10:20 NsAS 10:21 i remember a server room once in phoenix years ago that had ac (and lights and other shit) on one power system and the servers on another. so of course in the middle of the summer there was a power event and the ac was down but the hardware chugged merrily along to the very edge of its operating temperature. these ttl ics on some of the machines started desoldering 10:22 k2: just need a second power event to fix everything! 10:22 throw a lightning bolt at the site 10:22 K2: it's easy to endure when you deep down know that you suck anyway and only so few people had noticed 10:23 thanks bhaak. that means so much 10:23 bhaak sucks 10:23 at being bad, they're too epic all the time :/ 10:24 epic fake out 10:24 B^) 10:24 that's quite suspicious. what do you want? 10:25 looking for: charming brave and handsome nethack dev to fix segfault when getting throne geno in 1.3d 10:25 just kidding, it's not actually important 10:26 not worth fixing ancient versions really 10:28 amateurhour goes to the hospital 'ugh i'm broken, pls fix kthx' hospital staff 'sir, you're too old, prob not work fixing, thx bai' 10:29 *worth 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had a steel scimitar entrusted to her by Crom, on T:30282 10:30 nah that's the current version, it's just been worked on for a lot longer than fresh projects :) 10:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:13120 10:42 how are you not dying every time you see a leprechaun in 1.3? 10:42 what do you mean, is there a bug with that? 10:43 not, mentally. them looking like L 10:43 oh haha 10:44 there's no colour so they're not scary purples and reds :) 10:52 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 10:52 !lastgame krm26 10:52 ssnufd: Message from NetSysFire at 2022-05-02 03:34 EDT: i hope your wish will be greasy 10:52 ssnufd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1651063063.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 10:53 !tell netsysfire did you not see that greased t just for you?? 10:53 Will do, ssnufd! 10:53 GREASE 10:53 NetSysFire: Message from ssnufd at 2022-05-02 10:53 EDT: did you not see that greased t just for you?? 10:54 holy thought you had that in the bag for sure krm so how you liking tortle lol 10:56 10 dex yikes 10:59 the backscroll has all my thoughts :-) definitely tough, but my death at that point was unearned and stupid. i should have died to hordes spawning faster than i could deal with them in the sanctum :-) 10:59 it is a good thing in my opinion that no game is ever super secure like sure there's always ways to prevent a death etc but always good challenges later in the game too 11:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible davez's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:15021 11:03 try a tortle for yourself! i think i'd recommend wiz 11:05 tortle will be a long time away for me i have a weird thing about classes that can't wear equip. even centaur although they pretty much have like welded boots of speed on their feet, i dont like the restriction of not having boot options hah. 11:05 just a weird personal thing like that in all roguelikes 11:07 and i still need to do wiz ive just been having a lot of fun with new weapons/obj props 11:10 those magic detect scrolls are great especially after you collect a bunch of gear and have gotten like 3 id scrolls in 30k like me 11:11 i used one in soko this time too 11:11 also got some cloudy objdet so 11:12 smoky? 11:13 cloudy isn't nearly as exciting 11:13 oh no i meant i have used magic detection more in leiu (sp) of objdet especially earlier didnt want to summon ghosts 11:15 what are you playing now krm? my screen is too small to see 11:16 dwarf knight as a palate cleanser before i attempt my next (probably non-tortle) barbarian 11:20 k2: is it intentional that lance is almost impossible to forge? i assume so 11:23 its not almost impossible. its easy in fact 11:24 need a glaive, can't make a glaive; need a javelin, which you can at least make from a spear 11:25 the glaive is roughly 10% of generated polearms i think? 11:26 so you can forge a lance from something not that dissimilar from the lance droprate 11:26 yeah i need to make more recipes for the other polearms 11:26 very different than, say, shuriken 11:26 that was my ask 11:26 i think i only made one for halberd 11:26 more recipes is on my to-do 11:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:26 seems like spear + whateverthecrap -> each of the 12 useless polearms would be decent addition 11:27 glaive + guisarme -> voulge + bec-de-corbin -> fauchard + partisan -> bill-guisarme + halberd -> glaive... 11:27 jfhdsjfh 11:28 honestly the crazy of so many functionally (for dnd purposes) identical polearms in dnd infecting so many future games 11:29 1. pilum 2. spear 3. pole arm 4. done, f off! 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:17175 11:29 aosdict cut down on the polearm sprawl in xnh 11:29 i left it because it wasnt really an issue, no one hardly uses polearms anyways 11:29 it is funny, since arneson + gygax were just throwing around names from wildly different cultures and time periods willy nilly 11:29 and if they do its usually a halberd as that has the best damage output 11:30 all the different kinds are really just a dnd easter egg 11:30 that being the case, though, i might suggest not distinguishing between them for recipes 11:30 easy to fix: just add loads of different kinds of the other weapon types so it doesn't stick out anymore 11:31 i.e. (any pole arm) + whatever 11:31 i still don't understand why there are both daggers and knives 11:31 and SCALPELS 11:31 haha 11:32 i remember being excited about finding a worm tooth on my rogue and i was gonna make a crysknife and... oh its a different skill /drop 11:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:17949 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3927 11:44 did not realize thoth amon has a magic saving throw of 10 8) 11:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 39692 points, T:19222, died of starvation, while fainted 11:46 when i fully ID things like vorpal blade, before it says you know steel long sword, is there a way to keep it saying what type of material something is after it's id'd? 11:47 does shift c - d show it? 11:47 (type of object on discoveries list) 11:48 hmm i would want something like for all my items though, as in a setting like implicit uncursed or something 11:48 just checked, artifacts don't display in the discoveries list at all 11:48 no, there is no option for that 11:49 that information is "lost" once you have the item fully identified 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2242 11:50 gotcha, would be neat, also to see the weight of things i can drop/pickup that takes turns and if you press the inventory letter i think it only shows the base weight not including objmaterials 11:51 actual weight is showed in perminv 11:51 not base weight 11:53 huh? like if i go to inventory and press Q for my scale mail it shows 175 aum but it weighs 54 because its bone 11:53 all good its nice to see the weight/cap up there for sure thats huge qol 11:54 what do you mean, go to inventory and press Q? 11:54 perminv shows your inventory in a permanent window, and it accurately displays actual weights 11:55 if you spy on my game, i have that on 11:55 (if your screen is the right size) 11:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Trt Mal Law), 1324 points, T:1551, killed by a rock gnome 11:55 yoooooo! i can see your weights i dont have that setting enabled i guess? 11:55 if you don't have perminv, press "/" and then "i" and it should show you weights 11:56 i do have perminv but i dont see them and i dont see them when i do that either 11:56 OPTIONS=invweight 11:56 in your nethackrc 11:57 you can inspect my whole file (or anybody elses) on hardfought 11:57 i took k2's a while back cause mine was old 11:58 if you like my context coloring and qt's scale and k2's etc etc 11:58 -!- cbus_ has joined #evilhack 11:58 k2s has like no color 11:58 -!- cbus has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by cbus_!~something@81-235-236-107-no92.tbcn.telia.com))] 11:58 -!- cbus_ has quit [Client Quit] 11:58 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 11:58 mine underlines used items, BUC colors, highlights boh-explody items in red, context colors some things for me in the level overview, etc 11:58 ok thanks that worked on the options thing 11:58 np 11:59 i know i was gonna take yours i just didnt know how much extra stuff was in there 11:59 a buttload of stuff 11:59 like specific stuff i know you 11:59 yeah lol 11:59 i can name individual items with color codes to alter their display during the game 11:59 ok that's too cool 11:59 like when i find the smoky potion i'll name it '#wt SMOKY' and it will always plot in white 12:00 and my emergency oilskin bag with cancellation i'll name with '#MG' so it plots in bold magenta 12:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Trt Mal Neu), 197 points, T:708, killed by a water moccasin 12:01 yeah i really like that 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4124 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5527 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:5617 12:14 i color stuff that I feel is important 12:14 like the AoY, and wands of cancellation 12:14 wow, goblin king throne wish after the genocide 12:15 as a l7 knight with no long sword, i wonder if i should wish for a +2 rustproof long sword to excalibur, getting an artifact without an artifact wish 12:15 oh for sure k2 i went from a very colorful one like krm to yours 12:15 or just go for dragon scales 12:15 k2, with the new system, dragon scale enchantments dont convey to armor when they meld, right? 12:15 so enchanting scales you intend to meld is pointless? 12:16 correct 12:16 however 12:16 if you plan on using a set of scales strictly as a cloak, enchant away 12:17 damn i know i'll never find a long sword if i use the wish for something else 12:17 long swords seem pretty common 12:17 elven long swords sadly dont count 12:18 yeah dont wish for excalibur as a lawful knight 12:18 and yeah, there are a ton throughout the game, but you dont necessarily find one in the top few levels 12:18 dramborleg \o/ 12:18 yeah magic resist and mc sweet wep 12:18 no, no artifact wish. the long sword is a fake artifact wish 12:19 if i wish for dramborleg i'll never get dragonbane 12:19 although i've never yet seen dramborleg 12:19 wtf 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 Dramborleg", on T:5752 12:19 got my pet to steal it out of a shop one game almost died picking it up lol 12:21 oh and almost died applying it shortly after hah 12:28 read a scroll of earth over my stash and now wheni move l k j u, it just does the ALT + function for those 12:28 if i try to prefix with m does nothing 12:29 just switch to your config krm26 this a you thing or a bug 12:29 dont talk to me 12:29 your numpad was on haha ok nvm 12:30 yeah i numpad 12:30 sry 12:31 i'm oldschool 12:31 at least i finally replaced my lexmark keyboard from the early 80s 12:32 i used to always used numpad its faster for me i had to learn to not use it tho and that took quitttee a while 12:32 yeah i initially played sans-numpad (again, in the 80s) but haven't for a looonggg time 12:33 also feels better ergo (whatever the word) wise, to use numpad dont have one atm 12:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:20333 12:35 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:36 changed my life with this invweight option 12:37 yay! 12:37 once you have invweight on you'll never be satisfied with a mere stethoscope again. it has to be made of bone! 12:40 hmm, heavy war hammer or ordinary flail? 12:42 hammer 12:42 will seriously outdps the flail 12:42 d8/d10 vs d6+1/2d4 12:43 plus, there are artifact hammers that you could use that skill with at some point 12:43 plus, you can forge with a hammer 12:43 all flails are good for is forging into an aklys i think :-) 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Law), 5 points, T:121, killed by a goblin 12:44 what about butcher 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 18 points, T:32, killed by a jackal, while praying 12:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 41 points, T:253, burned by molten lava 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 38 points, T:72, killed by a fox 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 57 points, T:6, crunched in the head by an iron ball 12:46 lol 12:46 playing your own game of russian doll 12:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:113 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Raider, on T:31542 12:53 bones on the quest! 13:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2053 points, T:3731, killed by becoming a döner kebab 13:08 sad but funny 13:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 4 points, T:34, killed by a falling rock 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 5495 points, T:4808, killed by an Aleax of Lugh 13:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 476 points, T:1557, killed by a jackal, while praying 13:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:39 heh, hope you enjoy them snuffd! unfortunately i often travel light 13:42 lamp was a bust hah, cancel wand and tele and stuff is nice. also i was missing reflection :) 13:44 oh wait bones wands have no charges right? 13:46 master lich showed up out of nowhere on 8 and smoked me and my dramborleg but good 13:46 could have retreated i guess but couldn't be arsed 13:47 be a fun bones for someone 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 11823 points, T:8420, killed by a torrent of acid 13:47 oh wow 13:47 dramborleg, magic lamp, some other crap 13:48 3 djinni's free no wish game please 13:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2173 points, T:4045, killed by an iron piercer 13:51 k2: curses still doesn't update perminv carrying capacity when you mount 13:52 ok 13:52 suggested fix: everybody is tortle 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 629 points, T:1420, killed by the Goblin King 14:14 oh no krm26 your barb tortle died 14:14 How did you become a spectre?? 14:14 good question, wasn't paying even the slightest attention so no idea 14:14 just flarping around in vlad 14:15 but having run it a while in full ascension kit i had some questions for you as to your touriest asc 14:15 I knew getting killed by a mummy or a zombie could reincarnate you as one of them, didn't know spectres could do it 14:15 for me, my barb was completely unable to hit with 1h weapons on the frequent -30ac npcs (let alone dual wielding) 14:15 did you have to hit issues? 14:16 i was already doubting ascension chances, one mr rodney with decent gear would be unkillable 14:17 was wondering if i was missing something important 14:17 optimisim 14:18 sorry couldnt resist :P 14:18 socialist ukrainian jew, that's where all my optimism went 14:19 haha 14:20 Well my tourist had the Eye if I remember, so those high AC folks got zapped or level drained mostly 14:20 or avoided entirely 14:20 i had the eye, i never thought of invoking it 14:20 Now that they're not loot pinatas fighting them is a trap 14:20 Oh I meant the Aethiopica 14:21 i only worry about them during the ascension when they can loot you 14:21 but i MAINLY worry about the -30ac to -38ac rodneys with mr who clone themselves 14:21 just never had a fully kitted out character miss so much 14:21 could just be the ol luck o the irish 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 958 points, T:1707, killed by the Goblin King 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Ran Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3583 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Ran Cen Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (water nymphs), on T:3614 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 813 points, T:2096, killed by a bugbear 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 155 points, T:443, killed by a riding accident 14:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Ran Cen Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dark green spellbook on an altar, on T:4191 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 8047 points, T:4235, killed by a hill orc called Ul-ai-bane of Grisogruku 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:32943 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32944 14:55 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 69 points, T:553, killed by a jackal 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 4 points, T:91, killed by a fox 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:33341 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 191 points, T:697, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 15:03 -!- screamingskull has joined #evilhack 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 68 points, T:443, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 466 points, T:1763, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2239 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 776 points, T:1773, killed by a bugbear 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8822 points, T:5868, quit 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 1174 points, T:4149, killed by a mountain dwarf 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 3630 points, T:4395, killed by an owlbear 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3466 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1256 16:03 interesting... a hostile gnome activated a figuring and the resulting creature ended up being tame to me. 16:06 iirc just like you have a chance of producing a hostile monster from a blessed figurine, your enemies now have a chance of producing a monster hostile to them (or one that's peaceful) 16:06 i can't remember if it's buc dependant or not 16:06 yes.   blessed figurine had a greater chance of pet being created 16:07 i know it is for the player, but I can't remember if the same thing applies when a monster uses it 16:07 and that is _quite_ interesting bouquet ! 16:07 it was a recent change 16:07 I was wondering if that is what you meant 16:10 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5116 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3599 points, T:2484, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Pawn, on T:5427 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Storm's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1199 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1415 points, T:2009, killed by a hobbit pickpocket 16:44 additional recipes for forging being added tonight 16:44 also some edits to a couple existing recipes 16:44 and a minor bug fix (forging) 16:46 forge credit card + blank scroll -> bank card (good for fooling one vault guard :-) 16:46 it is "forging" 16:48 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 16:48 melon+hammer="You hear maniacal laughter" 16:49 Your unlabeled scroll catches fire and burns. 16:52 add a way to forge hawaiian shirts 16:52 hawaiian shirts of steel 16:52 new dungeon feature: drafting table. double marker ink costs if you AREN'T using one 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:3214 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2698 17:04 new role: Architect. Special ability - cause monsters to fall down stairs and die because they're not to code. 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4957 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1129 points, T:7017, killed by a giant rat 17:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 4 points, T:111, killed by a water moccasin 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8154 17:56 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:10157 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12047 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10107 18:30 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:30 12k turns in and not a single pick axe 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) destroyed gpsalmoncannon's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:13208 18:46 yeah that presents a problem lol oh did the bones have one? 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3242 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:36470 18:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:52 oh i got that cool castle with the dragons surrounding the main room and the lava outside 18:52 i mean theyre all cool, lots of chance for scales here which is sweet 19:03 you mean i cant beat out the castle passtune on my drum lol 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5876 points, T:5602, killed by a piranha 19:05 tonal instruments only 19:10 haha yea might be reverse geno soldiers here in a minute i cant believe i havent seen one 19:11 Nope 19:11 Gonna have to find Ludios or double-check that you didn't miss a barracks 19:11 monsters you can't geno typically can't be revgeno'd 19:12 ohhh right, ludios nice yes! 19:18 I've joined the "just blow it up" club. Too many deaths to wands of striking. 19:24 does the castle open to striking? i didnt have one for some reason i was thinking it didnt, maybe that's cerberus' door 19:25 cerberus's door doesn't blow up 19:26 ok so castle is still like vanilla then 19:38 Yes, with a drawbridge 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had a steel ring mail entrusted to him by Crom, on T:14840 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14946 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to him by Crom, on T:15129 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 570 points, T:1181, killed by an ettin 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 22409 points, T:18709, killed by a death ray 20:26 oh dang 20:26 !lastgame bouquet 20:26 ssnufd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1651520002.evil.html 20:27 tin tyrant indeed 20:29 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 20:32 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8046 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:759 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1268 points, T:2348, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 23 points, T:271, killed by a falling rock 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:2 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 42 points, T:198, fell into a pit 21:18 hai 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4340 points, T:2953, killed by an exploding chest 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3208 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of magic resistance, on T:9464 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1793 points, T:4179, killed by the Goblin King 21:58 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:10432 22:20 that bones comes with a free wand of death. You just have to get it from that Elf King 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (newts), on T:1528 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 359 points, T:1543, zombified by a dwarf zombie 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 553 points, T:1339, killed by an arrow 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 296 points, T:1163, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 23:00 !lastgame 23:00 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1651545713.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1651366870.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/McPanther/evilhack/dumplog/1651511400.evil.html 23:03 -!- Not-7fae has joined #evilhack 23:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/00feecafe8c1...91c9161d0508 23:03 [EvilHack] k21971 36fb3fb - Additional forge recipes, tweaks to a few existing recipes. 23:03 [EvilHack] k21971 91c9161 - Adjust tortle movement speed. 23:06 Oho? 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:12904 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) destroyed bouquet the elf zombie, and former Sniveler, on T:1533 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 850 points, T:3228, killed by a rabid dog 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:12954 23:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 101 points, T:488, killed by a newt 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:73