00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 3654 points, T:5428, killed by a bolt of cold 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:20855 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the eyes of the overworld", on T:20874 01:06 FINALLY 01:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed mithril amulet of magic resistance", on T:48407 01:09 nice 01:10 was blessing levi potions for this all game 01:11 imma make Pelias proud now 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 43264 points, T:20178, shot herself with a death ray 01:17 D:!? 01:17 !lastgame 01:17 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1651279327.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1651109678.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1651093063.evil.html 01:18 cursed wand... 01:19 oh damn 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu), 19318 points, T:8171, suffocated by a water elemental 02:55 -!- screamingskull has joined #evilhack 02:55 why am i not healing?!? 02:56 i am not in Gehennom 02:56 character has not been healing for everal hundred turns now 02:56 I was withering, but it stopped quite a while ago 02:56 orc or elf with wearing mithril or iron? 02:57 some new lingering wither effect, even though it is said to have stopped? 02:57 no, illithid 02:57 I took off all of my armor, thinking maybe it was the 'decay' property 02:57 then I've got nothing. 02:58 'decay' just gives drain resistance 02:58 i am not camped out in mines with my trusty Hecubus and 1 HP!!! 02:58 i know it give you drain resistance, seems K2 may have wanted to give that a 'down side.' 02:59 oops    i am ^now^ camped out in mines with my trusty Hecubus and 1 HP!!! 02:59 that was a question regarding the decay property, not a guess not accusation 03:00 wow     cannot type tonight 03:00 yeah it's a reasonable assumption that k2 would want to make things harder :) 03:00 exactly.... ;) 03:01 everyone's wishing for drain resistance, so nerf it, right? 03:01 aaaah.... just sucks.... I do not weant to park this character 03:01 seems it may be a wither bug? 03:03 dang that sucks 03:03 just dropped everything.... no healing.... 03:03 I could pray, but I want to save that for the inevitable zombie brain eating. 03:03 no uni horn yet 03:04 You can't heal naturally in Gehennom, at least not in the VotD 03:05 Also p. sure "decay" oprop is literally just extrinsic drain resistance 03:05 screamingskull said: i am not in Gehennom 03:06 variant paranoia kicking in 03:06 beyond that, can't think of anything immediately unless you're super encumbered or s/t 03:06 might be also your con just sucks for natural HP regen? 03:06 not sure of a variant that uses decay in such manner. 03:07 was thinking it was added.... i nkow it did not do it initially 03:07 Probably Grunt lol 03:07 also we'dve seen a commit and/or other people complaining about it 03:07 yeah... K2 made EvilHack a bit easier going than Grunt, if you could imagine! 03:08 and no: my Con is 12 03:08 might be also your con just sucks for natural HP regen 03:08 something to do with new magic drain trap? 03:08 ^not for the character per se 03:08 more PP than HP, so it does something new in vanilla? 03:08 oh you might've been cancelled possibly? 03:08 did your energy hit 0? 03:09 the new way the trap works does that?! 03:09 no 03:09 well, that is relief. 03:09 not played vanilla in 6 months. .. at least 03:09 no, no cancellation 03:10 monsters can zap cancellation at you, so if your energy was 0 it might've been related 03:10 hmm 03:10 no wands or monsters with it yet 03:10 besides, never heard of cancellation affecting healing . . . ? 03:11 it almost sounds like this character is dead, any way 03:11 i should say: *may* be dead 03:11 even if it is a bug, it may break the save 03:12 I saved and restarted, that can sometimes solve weird issues. 03:12 took everything off, dropped everything (paranoid fix try, perhaps, of course) 03:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 14401 points, T:11300, killed by an ochre jelly 03:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:51250 03:42 sheesh, floating and throwing boulders is some shit 03:42 you know what, I could cross Medusa doing that 03:43 awhoops, that's what I get for not minding my stomc 03:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 423844 points, T:51482, choked on an ice troll corpse 03:43 stomach* 03:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5119 04:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper runed dagger on an altar, on T:5639 04:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 846 points, T:1938, killed by the Goblin King 04:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:6888 04:41 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:41 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 04:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:59619 05:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an alhoon, on T:8950 05:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:9800 05:13 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:20 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: A cloud of gas puts terrapin to sleep!] 05:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 369710 points, T:61160, petrified by a basilisk 06:09 really makes no sense    able to sac at a neutral altar to my god, without incident   my sacrifice was enevloped in a cloud of smoke 06:09 and yet I pray to my god and the very thought is repugnant? 06:09 i am not a demon, i am in demon form 06:10 so, my god is still accepting me (accepts sacrifice), but I cannot pray to him? 06:11 sure, maybe this is a vanilla demon polymorph thing, and not a weredemon thing? 06:11 (should have led with the weredemon bit, sorry) 06:14 (also, this games whacked man, whacked!)  did not find a single hammer until nearly turn 56,000!!!!  wanted to mess with forging but could not 06:16 hmm 06:17 "Polymorphed into a demon and praying to a non-chaotic god" 06:17 "You are simply unable to pray: "The very idea of praying to a god is repugnant to you" 06:17 yeah, was at first thinking it was an EvilHack weredemon thing. 06:17 Then began to think it through 06:18 you need to eat wolfsbane I think? 06:18 I've never really messed with poly'in into a demon on gating or anything in my 30+ years of playin *Hack. 06:19 only had 1 wolfsbane and was saving for when i was collapsed under my load or stressed 06:19 the item left unused did not help me --- I am dead 06:19 oof 06:19 not sure if praying is guaranteed to save from stoning, anyways, does  is it? 06:20 another thing i am finding to be scary with tortles: basilisks, 06:20 A vegetarian tortle is even worse! 06:21 yeah, a basilisk is often bad news for anyone. fast, hard to kill. 06:21 and the biggest thing: decent MR   --- AND---- sleep resistant!!! 06:22 mind flayers , in general, are just crazy with tortles 06:22 went from 16 INT to 7 in just a few rounds 06:31 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 788 points, T:2654, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 06:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2710 06:47 wow, Tiamat. will I get the drop... 06:49 4d6 claw steal Amulet careful now :-) 06:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 129 points, T:403, killed by a falling rock 06:58 -!- screamingskull has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:01  Lolth appears in a cloud of brimstone! :O 07:01 "peaceful Lolth" phew! 07:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:68955 07:03 no tiamat scales :-( 07:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11472 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a cornuthaum entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:13836 07:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:14331 07:25 hi everyone! is there a way to destroy the iron bars except of potions of acid? 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:14558 07:31 lacca I think it depends upon which level you are. the iron bars at the goblin king can be destroyed with striking. 07:32 mobileuser: and what about the castle level, prisoner's quest and the ice queen lair? 07:32 thanks although) 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of escape entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:15063 07:33 ice queen liar: acid only I think 07:33 castle level I don't know, never tried 07:33 not knowledgeable about this, I would guess that there are no iron bars which can be destroyed by one but not the other? 07:34 in vanilla: nondiggable bars can't be destroyed at all even by acid, in xnethack at least diggable bars can be destroyed by both acid and strikin 07:34 well, I *think* striking doesn't work in the ice queen liar 07:34 but I know it works at the goblin king 07:35 thanks! want these prisoners to be free)) 07:35 lacca which prisoners? 07:36 mobileuser: right now on the goblin king level, but they exist on each level i mentioned above 07:36 prisoners at the castle: there are secret doors 07:36 I really don't get the large code duplication in the conditional of https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/zap.c#L3834-L3859, but I see no exception here or anywhere else in that file for the ice queen level. it's just nondiggable or not 07:37 where is K2 :-) 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scales", on T:17084 07:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5346 07:45 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 07:50 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:58 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 12170 points, T:8673, withered away, while sleeping 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 595 points, T:2407, killed by a djinni 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25949 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:28361 09:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:23559 09:39 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 09:49 [backscroll] there is no special iron bar setting. if they can be destroyed, its by any of the means available (acid, force bolt/striking, etc) 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4555 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1099 points, T:4560, killed by a Grey-elf 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 169591 points, T:36096, killed by the Dark One, while jumping around 10:03 screamingskulls issue... ugh 10:03 he's not kidding, hit points are not regenerating 10:04 must be some weird issue with withering, the hp regen suppression wasnt released somehow 10:08 !lastgame elron 10:08 ssnufd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1651266035.evil.html 10:11 ooooh i see it 10:11 hah, not a bug 10:12 he's not regenerating hit points because he's an infidel and he dropped the AoY somewhere 10:12 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f4f22e2d939a831214b2432e4e1dd9561586b155 10:12 !tell screamingskull you're not regenerating hp because you dont have the AoY on you (see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f4f22e2d939a831214b2432e4e1dd9561586b155) - where is it? 10:12 Will do, K2! 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:23995 10:16 prob be a good idea to give the player a hint every so often if they are infidel and dropped the aoy 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:24006 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24374 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 538 points, T:2147, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 134 points, T:479, killed by a kitten 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4010 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4524 11:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/edfad9ced59c...6499571dbc73 11:07 [EvilHack] k21971 6d8c870 - Fix: suppress Monk's extra kick attack when engulfed. 11:07 [EvilHack] k21971 6499571 - Give notice to infidels why they aren't regenerating hit points when they don't have the Amulet of Yendor in their possession. 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4456 points, T:5745, killed by an ape 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:24812 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:24813 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:24813 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:24815 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide oilskin cloak", on T:24816 11:26 wooo ssnufd 11:26 did you get the card? 11:26 no lmao! 11:26 noooo 11:26 3rd arti wish (first one was for a ring of phul and i forgot i was neutral hah) 11:27 past couple times ive tried a 3rd arti wish its been 1st get, so i was kinda shocked at 3 fails in a row lol 11:27 the RNG can be a dick 11:28 you could maybe permaconvert to chaotic and use p'hul 11:28 amateurhour: Messages from K2 and mobileuser have been forwarded to you privately. 11:29 O_O 11:29 :P 11:39 i thought about opposite alignment to pick it up for sickness res, thats a good idea amateurhour 11:41 oh yeah less drastic would be using the helmet haha 11:41 completely forgot about it 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1791 11:51 @e?master po 11:51 Master Po (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire sleep shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 claw physical, 2d8 kick knockback, 2d8 cast clerical, 2d8 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 11:51 @e?master kaen 11:51 Master Kaen (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 10 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 16d2 claw physical, 1d4 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast clerical, 16d2 claw knockback | Alignment: -20 | Flags: herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 11:52 never noticed he has 16d2's dang 11:54 po in german means butt 11:54 and he kicked ur ass K2 11:54 COINCIDENCE? 12:13 kaen > po 12:13 this is because kaen is worth 8 points in scrabble whereas po is only worth 4 12:14 but this could be rectified, perhaps by duplicating the letters in his name. "master poop" 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2712 points, T:4870, killed by an orcish arrow 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:25908 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:25920 12:29 geez, i just killed cerberus at 60k...you speed runners 12:29 i didn't even have reflection at 25k 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3999 12:32 with sufficient luck you can have reflection at 100 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:68879 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:26148 12:39 krm26 im a rogue with objdet as my smoky lol its been a fun one 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3591 12:44 smoky object detection is the dream, that or fruit juice 12:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:70111 12:48 come on give me angelslayer or show me the door by crowning me 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7756 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8388 points, T:7759, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while praying 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 crude daggers on an altar, on T:5856 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9533 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a helmet entrusted to him by Kos, on T:6580 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9667 13:08 so as a level 30 barbarian with 15 int and 20 wisdom and basic skill in enchantment i have a 74% failure at level 2 enchantment spells :-/ 13:10 42% for the level 3 class special spell 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:9863 13:11 w/o armor on krm? 13:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:12 tortle, so wearing no interfering armor 13:12 those percentages seem very wrong to me 13:12 yea 13:12 [backscroll] "smoky object detection is the dream". I had ZERO wishes from object det on my previous asc run :b 13:13 that's the rng for ya 13:13 yup 13:13 mobileuser thats crazy lol. a genie stole my wish and i was like w/e lol got another wish out of the same stack of 8 13:13 i always make sure im extremely lucky out of paranoia hah 13:13 I saw!! brilliant! 13:14 welcome to the club :-) 13:14 k2: are my tortle barbarian spell success rates really being computed correctly? seems crazy bad -- tortles at max stats, level 30 don't look like they'll be able to cast their special spell with 100% success rate 13:15 are you using a shield? 13:16 great, the npc samurai attacking me just hopped on the npc centaur knight that spawned 13:16 no of course i'm not using a shield 13:16 i'm sliiiightly competent some of the time 13:16 silly me :b 13:17 although i do understand why you would think i'm a drooling buffoon 13:17 I'm using a small shield myself 13:17 and I notice a small impact on spell casting 13:18 question should have been "are you using a small shield" which is not unusual for spell casters 13:19 i like twoweapon, but i had this dwarvish valk with a mithril dwarvish shield of light and you couldnt get me to take it off lol 13:21 also k2: are you supposed to be able to have a spear trap in deep water? cuz i've got one 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6134 points, T:7748, killed by a leocrotta 13:25 i bet a bearded axe could get you to take it off 13:31 argh, speaking of which, juggling so many weapons, lost my demonbane somewhere! 13:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3444 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:71840 13:44 sigh, gonna have to go to the ttyrec to try to find demonbane i guess 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Anu, on T:14558 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:72351 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4644 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 daggers on an altar, on T:5348 14:25 K2 interesting: you wanted to add something nice for Infidel ("blood magic") but it got too OP, so instead it's now horrible for Infidel: if someone steals the amulet, no HP regeneration and you're basically fucked :b 14:27 I'm at my stash preparing for the asc run, and I've just remembered I still need to kill the quest leader. That would have been painful otherwise... 14:29 amateurhour do you remember that time I lost Dragonbane after punching a black dragon and a save/reload? Because of a bug where it got marked for deletion? 14:30 yeah, the in_use flag was set or something 14:31 so then when restoring it deletes all those items so you can't for example read a scroll then keep it 14:31 fun bugs removed :(((( 14:31 I got SCAMMED out of the Hand of Vecna almost the same way :-) 14:33 damn 14:33 overenchanted it, it's not supposed to get destroyed. save/reload, poof, gone 14:33 that sounds like exactly the same thing 14:34 heh looks like K2 fixed it by ensuring the flag is unset https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/10326f49f4117453460f48325e2467620e651701 14:34 I sort of wonder if it can still happen if you punch a black dragon 14:34 or if a monster casts destroy armor and you don't have MR 14:36 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 14:37 K2: I warned you about VERSION_COMPATIBILITY bro!! I told you dog! 14:39 qt do you have secret code numbers u message K2 with to report bugs? 14:40 like if there's a bug with the rogue quest text u just send '90' 14:41 4c 52 46 14:41 that means yes 14:44 K2: 59 52 47 46 58 56 59 59 4e 5a 4e 47 52 48 45 55 42 48 45 14:49 he is speaking the language of the gods 14:50 i believe in you amateurhour, you can crack the code and read that urgent bug report 14:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) refused to give up The Idol of Moloch to the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:71114 14:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:71115 14:55 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:56 right, that's out of the way 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 134966 points, T:48317, killed by a cobra 14:58 qt does that first one have a typo in 14:58 the one you claimed means yes 14:59 I have cracked the clue anyway and defermined that you wish to train me in some way to boost my skills 14:59 yay :)) 15:00 no, I don't think it has a typo 15:01 https://0x0.st/oAqE.png 15:01 isn't it YET? 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Anu, on T:17006 15:01 hmm maybe I have a typo somewhere 15:01 oh I put 47 for some reason, whac 15:01 k 15:02 let skill_amateurhour = 100; 15:02 i can program in javascript now 15:03 nice 15:03 WHEN will there be a variant brave enough to rewrite it all in JS 15:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:10 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:14 rewriting nethack could be fun if it was in a nice language/environment. ie not js 15:15 just npm isntall nethack 15:15 if someone wants to race i'd pick python 15:16 I'd pick js over python nonironically 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:26885 15:16 but wouldn't pick either of them to write a nethack clone in 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 3869 points, T:4244, killed by falling down a mine shaft 15:18 the most reasonable choice is probably TI-BASIC on the TI-99/4A 15:19 makes sense 15:22 ugh js 15:23 an unfixable garbage language littered with unnecessary traps and pitfalls 15:23 as opposed to python? :P 15:23 ayup 15:24 well, nethack is also littered with unnecessary traps and pitfalls, and you seem to enjoy that well enough 15:24 ha 15:24 those are NECESSARY traps and pitfalls 15:25 what kinds of traps and pitfalls are you referring to? 15:25 var wtf = "1"; wtf +=1; wtf is now "11", thx js 15:26 languages should know better than to combine permissive typing with aggressive coercion 15:26 I have a feeling most of your examples are gonna be coersion to string related things 15:27 i'm prejudiced, i never even thought netscape should hire eich 15:27 they shoulda just let him write a lisp like he probably wanted 15:27 ah, lisp, a nice homiconerotic language 15:31 you think it's homoerotic? gay lisp? 15:32 it's both fashionable and iconic 15:39 can I stone an electric vortex with a chickatrice corpse? 15:40 i think most vortices are stone resistant 15:44 the sensible thing to do is come back later. Let's see if I'm capable of doing sensible things... 15:45 this is one of those games that is frustratingly short on any kind of container. 15:46 or altars. 15:47 can you yolo to the ice queen realm for altar and bag or is it too early? 15:47 waaaaaay too early. 15:47 I couldn't survive a leocrotta yet 15:48 Actually, there's a crystal chest on dlvl 1 :P 15:50 i just noticed "bulb honor" <-rot13-> "oh you babe" 15:50 what does this mean?? 15:51 that probably indicates some deep secret about the universe, if we only could understand it 15:52 maybe it means i should invest in tulip bulbs 15:52 or buy bitcoin, which is close enough for government work 15:52 it means rot13 is a bad cypher 15:53 you shouldn't get your financial advice from free association of bad cryptography 15:53 and was a bad cipher when Caesar used it 15:54 broken since the first century BCE 15:59 if you're working on a secret paper about sexuality in Homer's Odyssey, better not conceal it from your academic rivals by rot13ing the 'preprint' filename or else you'll give the game away 16:00 i'd love a list of English words or phrases that rot13 into other English words or phrases, it's funny 16:00 ...i may have written a paper about sexuality in the Iliad and the Odyssey... 16:04 my favorite rot13: irk -> vex ->irk 16:05 heh, that's a good one 16:05 rot13 is a basic cipher 16:05 sorry, I see that was already covered 16:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) averted death (killed by a giant watch captain), on T:7825 16:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8764 points, T:7881, killed by a giant watch captain 16:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) stole 2666 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Haynin's jewelers, on T:2832 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1528 points, T:2987, killed by Ms. Haynin; the shopkeeper 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13543 16:26 what's a good poly form that won't break my gear? Vampire lord? 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a titan, on T:14497 16:30 probably vampire king/queen or mage would be better but I don't know for certain 16:31 going to go for titan so I don't get engulfed by that vortex in soko. 16:35 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 16:35 titans will break your gear 16:35 don't forget 16:36 ya, I got nekkid first 16:36 solved the vortex issue, though 16:36 personally i like arch-lich 16:36 you can be engulfed but you no longer care 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 819 points, T:1847, killed by an orcish dagger 16:41 did you find Demonbane again krm26? 16:41 -!- screamingskull has joined #evilhack 16:42 Totally Evil YANI: _non_-magical rings, wands, spellbooks and amulets 16:42 screamingskull: Message from K2 at 2022-04-30 10:12 EDT: you're not regenerating hp because you dont have the AoY on you (see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f4f22e2d939a831214b2432e4e1dd9561586b155) - where is it? 16:44 mobileuser: i did. i can be such a dolt 16:44 ah, good! 16:45 wish i had angelslayer but cant have everything (dualwielding appropriate two of demonbane, fire brand, mjollnir, sunsword, and vorpal blade) 16:45 yeah I spent a very long time altar camping for angelslayer myself 16:46 left giantslayer, luck blade, and magicbane in my stash 16:46 amid some pretty crap stuff i did luck into sunsword from my first aleax and demonbane from my first angel 16:46 which was pretty nice 16:47 despite being as equipped as it is possible for me to get when entering the valley this tortle still seems realllllly iffy 16:47 I dread meeting an archon with demonbane, one of the few things that can instakill me and is hard to kill 16:48 i've gotten pretty lazy/reliant about having drain resistance, i hate not having it on this guy 16:49 thinking of boulder-forting kas, which is pretty pathetic 16:49 not fast enough to kite 16:50 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:50 kas hits incredibly hard... 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1315 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:14530 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:74935 16:56 yay! 16:57 boulders + unenchanted silver aklys = many turns 16:57 i can't believe how much i miss with this guy 16:57 the 10 dex is a real screw i guess 16:57 slow + hit less + can't wear anything = yay 16:58 dual wield vorpy / sunny, nice 16:58 argh lich went right for canceling my sunsword 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:15063 16:58 i've had a very low drop rate on scrolls/potions this run unfortunately 16:58 reenchanting just not possible 16:59 damn 16:59 fun fact. if a gelatinous cube eats a sokoban prize, you can kill it and get two different prizes! 16:59 not sure if that's a feature or a bug 16:59 really? 16:59 don't tell k2 :-) 16:59 are you really sure, what happens when you pick it up 16:59 it also dropped through a hole, so I got the first prize on the 3rd floor of sokoban. not sure it that was relevant 17:00 that might be VERY relevant 17:02 Hecubus announced both prizes, so the game definitely registers that I've completed sokoban with the first prize, but it didn't vanish the other prizes. 17:02 I see! 17:02 fantastic, congrats! :-) 17:02 L3 will be raging 17:03 I got a reflection amulet and a marker. I already wished for Dragonbane and I got a marker from Goblintown, so it's basically the least lucky I could be while still being amazingly lucky :) 17:04 unlike other gear you're rarely sad to find ANOTHER marker 17:04 oh, you wanted the bag and amulet of MR =D 17:05 next time wait for the cube to eat the armor too 17:05 yeah I'm not complaining. well technically I am but I'm aware that it's silly 17:05 it's already a great first! 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2205 points, T:3279, killed by a water elemental of Thoth 17:07 speaking of markers in odd places, I got a marker from the Goblin King chest when it was first introduced 17:07 was that an early possibility that has since been removed? 17:07 or, can one find markers in chests now? 17:08 there's a 10% chance for a marker in the goblin king's chest 17:08 ah, OK.... interesting. 17:09 first time i did it I received it . . . 17:11 catching up on backscroll... 17:11 krm26: spear traps, yes 17:11 barbarians suck at casting, see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Barbarian#Spellcasting 17:13 lots of backscroll :-) 17:13 just skimmed sokoban prize code (I am nowhere near fluent). It looks like picking up a sokoban prize deletes all sokoban prizes on the same floor, so it was necessary for the cube to fall down a level. does zapping a wand of digging work in sokoban? that would make this much more easily reproducible 17:14 terrapin it does 17:15 going back for more Vecna prep krm26? 17:16 :) 17:16 mobileuser, as an infidel - dont lose the AoY. prob solved :P 17:16 \o/ 17:16 sokoban bug, got it. terrapin congrats on gaming the system, kudos 17:17 qt I saw the version_compat bit yay \o/ 17:17 does undefining that actually break saves? or did Pat feel like bumping up editlevel just cuz? 17:18 qt also - I'm scared to decifer your love note. I'm scared of what it might say 17:18 i thought sokoban prizes aren't supposed to be able to fall down a hole 17:18 they arent 17:18 i guess it was the gelcube that fell down a hole? 17:18 but when inside a gelcube? 17:18 mobileuser: yeah, didn't like my disenchanted sunsword 17:18 that makes sense 17:19 i think it fell down whil;st inside a gelcube that fell through it? 17:19 and thinking of maybe learning 2h sword for sword of kas 17:19 krm26 good call 17:19 this tortle balances on a razor's edge, trying not to blow it 17:19 master po kicked my tortle ass last night 17:20 I goofed, made an abbott angry which made them all angry 17:21 It wasn't intentional so I don't know for sure what happened. I just came across a gelatinous cube on level 3, killed it, and found a sokoban prize. the door to the zoo was wrecked and various animals kept getting stuck in the holes, so I assume the cube ate it and dropped through 17:22 heh 17:22 i mean, if you're able to pull it off on purpose, good on you 17:22 i'll look at closing that loophole of course, so get it while the getting is good :) 17:25 would an intelligent pet pick up a soko prize... 17:26 monsters arent supposed to be interested in the soko prizes ever 17:26 that's apparently not the case 17:27 i'll look at it later tonight. wife is having a ladies night out with her sister and some girlfriends, so it's me and mini-me hanging out tonight - burgers, ice cream, a few rounds of poker and a movie 17:28 monster to sokoprize: "it's not you... it's me. I'm just not interested." 17:28 (and mini-me dousing me with acid blast if I happen to win at cards) 17:28 [which I wont, she's a card shark] 17:28 musicdemon lol 17:34 who does a tortle have to blow around here to get crowned 17:39 -!- cbus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 third djinni this game that doesn't want to give me a wish 17:40 bastards 17:40 i bet they are plotting to unionize on us too 17:40 haha 17:41 The djinni picks up 3 potions. 17:41 yeah now you've signed your death warrant 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:48 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Neu), 4336 points, T:3566, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted warg, while frozen by a potion 17:53 stunlocked at max HP. RIP 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had a crystal plate mail entrusted to him by Anu, on T:20018 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1047 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 64358 points, T:21850, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 18:23 live by the cube, die by the cube 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 20 stone shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3763 18:46 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 19:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:13 K2: I think you should leave the ultra-corner-case sokoban cube thing alone. If someone manages to exploit that loophole they deserve the prize. 19:14 to intentionally do it would be a major time waste I think 19:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2180 19:24 why would I be randomly going from visible to invisible? 19:25 magic trap? 19:30 not in this case. 19:30 I suddenly became invisible (again) in the middle of a corridor. 19:34 temporary see invisible? 19:34 that expired? 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:19191 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:19220 19:39 I think the tortles have pushed the lizards off the monster generation chart. I usually have a couple by now but I haven't seen one yet. 19:40 just unlucky 19:53 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3444 20:02 as a vampire noble will I automatically bite a 'c' or does the game take into account that I wouldn't in this case? 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:27962 20:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:4035 20:05 There's things to prevent the kick from firing off when you're a centaur monk against c or other similar stuff 20:06 so I imagine it's the same for vamps, but I'm not 100% 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 56030 points, T:22601, killed by an air elemental 20:12 Hey K2 around? 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:21615 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 122 points, T:350, killed by a hobgoblin 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a stiletto entrusted to him by Kos, on T:855 20:35 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 521 points, T:1771, killed by a giant bat 20:38 https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Giant_(starting_race)&diff=145799&oldid=145713 20:38 was waiting for confirmation, decided to pull the trigger 20:40 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51 No Minetown livelog, hm 20:51 forgot 20:51 -!- screamingskull has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 5327 points, T:5783, killed by a chameleon imitating a marilith 21:00 pretty sure that was a magic lamp I died with... 21:00 anyway 21:05 damn 21:07 wow, vorpal can decapitate vecna? 21:08 wonder if trying for 5% will be faster than smacking with the sword of kas 21:11 hmm 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2655 21:11 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 21:12 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 21:15 Yeah there's no instadeath immunity there (yet) 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:77924 21:20 probably stupid to have trained sword of kas, seems like sunsword/vorpal should be about as good 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 870922 points, T:28471, killed by a touch of death 21:20 you can get skilled in-- 21:20 oh right no magic res :) 21:20 aw :c 21:21 !lastgame 21:21 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/ssnufd/evilhack/dumplog/1651202444.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1651307174.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1651348210.evil.html 21:21 had one in the bag but your current amulet was cursed.. 21:23 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:78337 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:78910 21:33 did i miss getting crowned sheesh 21:33 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2475 21:33 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:36 -!- Guest2475 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:81598 22:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 900 points, T:2555, killed by the Goblin King 22:02 eye - guess not disappointed, without the hand i can keep flying 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice devil, on T:5561 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5745 22:13 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 757 points, T:1295, killed by a killer bee 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Storm's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5963 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6680 points, T:6007, killed by a gnome lady, while praying 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:82576 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 12 points, T:89, killed by a goblin 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 624 points, T:1488, killed by a killer bee 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3349 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3350 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:83413 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3366 22:51 -!- screamingskull has joined #evilhack 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:83663 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:83666 22:59 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 20 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4127 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2816 23:17 can i get myself unpunished by dragging the ball into lava or is that a yasd 23:20 I think you can't 23:20 at least in vanilla I don't recall that working 23:51 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]