00:13 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7612 01:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:27994 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "magic marker", on T:63760 03:09 Oh yeah, I have a p. okay kit for where I am, but I'm also XL 12 03:10 clearing the last floor of Soko, should I gamble the coinflip on an MR source or try for the coinflip on the armor upgrade 03:10 * Umbire has a shield of reflection and GoDex for context 03:11 I tend to go for the chance of MR 03:11 how much ink is an acid blast spellbook.... 03:12 Uhhhh, what level is it 03:12 lemme see 03:13 wiki says 6 03:14 anywhere from 30-59 then, as an estimate 03:14 oof 03:14 hmmm 03:16 I think I'll play it safe and invest another wish then, keep the magic marker for other stuff 03:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "blessed spellbook of acid blast", on T:63763 03:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:35420 03:36 :c 03:39 it is the way 05:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:41155 05:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41157 05:48 No luck, huh 05:48 Fuck it 05:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha) returned The Ring of P'hul to Pelias, completing her quest, on T:42331 05:49 kill him later 05:50 No 05:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed Kas, on T:64179 05:51 ok :-) 06:17 That figures, tried to poly a pet and got an alhoon 06:18 Keep in mind I still have Sunsword 06:19 Luck swung the other way after, teleportitis dumped me on the upstair 06:22 oof 06:23 Oh boy, there's the shambling horror 06:23 Disease attack and hold to boot 06:24 if only Pelias hadn't been a dick, you would have sickness res :-( 06:24 I don't feel like risking my Luck on that shit, already doing it in one game 06:25 4d8 disease, 5d6 acid, 2d8 sticky 06:26 14 speed and -6 AC, bit of ranged work cut out for me 06:27 Horror's down, so is the player monster monk 06:36 noice! 06:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2415 points, T:2934, killed by a manes 07:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed Vecna, on T:64992 07:40 oops, spelling mistake: "disintigrating body" 07:40 ^ K2 07:41 f - a mummified hand named The Hand of Vecna 07:41 decisions, decisions 07:47 DOO EET 07:51 probably yes 07:56 whilst not on the ascension run, I can deal with the lack of reflection from dragonbane by replacing my MR cloak with sea dragon scales + reflection amulet (or silver scales + magical breathing amulet). on the ascension run I'll have to swap the amulets around where needed. 07:57 WHILST 07:57 \o/ 07:57 i'm all caps this morning hah 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:64999 08:27 the hand of vecna beckons you 08:30 can I eat it? 08:34 no sicko 08:34 You can. Whether you'll survive... 08:34 not the hand no 08:34 as they say, "all mushrooms are edible, but some only once" 08:34 ah :P 08:35 it's a body part, I should be able to :-) 08:35 :D 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1677 08:46 Butter Goblin defeated! \o/ 08:47 hmmm a red dragon can apparently wear an amulet of life saving 08:47 it prob started out as something else 08:47 poly'd into one 08:48 yeah she was called Sophia 08:49 but the amulet didn't get pushed off 08:52 same happens for the player 08:52 You have moderately abused your alignment. 08:52 ah F 08:53 that reminds me, I still need to kill my quest leader :b 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2214 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 2185 points, T:2416, killed by a bolt of cold 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:39500 09:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided alhoons, on T:65413 09:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65414 09:13 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9069520b2fd4...073b26c26db5 09:13 [EvilHack] k21971 7b24f65 - Fix: a couple typos. 09:13 [EvilHack] k21971 073b26c - Eating the Hand of Vecna is bad for you. 09:14 haha! 09:14 :P 09:24 oops 09:25 I wanted to enchant hand of vecna, but now my sea dragon scales merged into my armor 09:25 must have picked the wrong letter 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 227712 points, T:67172, killed by a human curate called Wang the Curate 09:27 K2 why can't I enchant from +6 to +7 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a pair of steel gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:40633 09:28 that's annoying 09:29 Hand of Vecna glows brown. 09:29 lol 09:30 I hope I still have some yellow scales at my former stash... stupid mistake 09:31 glows brown? 09:31 hrm 09:32 well, "The" is missing 09:32 I dipped it in unholy water 09:33 oh 09:33 i thought it was from the monster spell 'destroy armor' that shouldnt happen 09:34 max carry is still 1000... 09:35 I was hoping that would go up 09:35 lemme check a thing 09:36 ...and not being able to go from +6 to +7 is a bit strange? 09:36 wearing GoP doesnt get you past 1000 carry cap, so neither would the hand 09:38 OK, I seemed to remember my cap getting lower (to 1000) when I gave up on GoP, but I must be confused 09:38 maybe that was when I was a giant 09:38 what were you before turning into a demon 09:38 ah hah 09:38 thats it 09:38 heh 09:39 giants and centaurs have a carry cap of 1400 09:39 tortles 1200 09:39 rest have cap of 1000 09:41 I was hoping "confers giant strength" in the wiki description would also mean giant carry cap :-) 09:41 how much you can caryy takes body size/composition into account 09:41 *carry 09:42 but I'm wearing the very historic very magical Hand of Vecna!! :b 09:42 but IS IT GREASED!? 09:42 oops... 09:42 omfg 09:42 not even partly eaten 09:43 just... wow 09:43 #quit 09:43 hahah 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Rat King, on T:41878 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Cav Gia Mal Law), 1032 points, T:1887, killed by a water demon 10:15 hahaha!! 10:15 K2, the Hand is gone! 10:16 when the fuck did that happen :b 10:16 I have saved, will download some ttyrecs later 10:16 chores to do... 10:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] poisonrat (Mon Trt Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1412 10:32 mobileuser WAT 10:32 were you wearing it? 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] poisonrat (Mon Trt Mal Law), 613 points, T:2349, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:40 wearing it and enchanted to +6 10:41 and its gone? 10:41 maybe it's the same thing as with dragonbane again 10:41 I tried to enchant from +6 to +7 10:41 maybe it got marked for deletion 10:43 lets find the ttyrec 10:43 start at 2022-04-29.13_11_55.ttyrec 10:44 oh, visitors coming 10:45 happy hunting, see you later :b they will probably stick around for a few hours 10:45 o/ 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Kos, on T:2540 11:01 whoa 11:01 mobileuser you had the hand of vecna worn when you saved. when you reloaded your game, it was just gone 11:02 what the actual fuck 11:05 i cant recreate it. I can save/reload wearing the hand of vecna, its always there 11:10 hah shit 11:10 i recretaed it 11:10 *recreated 11:11 !tell mobileuser if you 'overenchant' the hand of vecna, nothing happens to it, but for some reason when you save/reload, it acts like it did evaporate away 11:11 I'm on it, K2. 11:35 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:38 hiya qt 11:38 hey 11:38 Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack 11:38 this should be a simple fix but i am missing something... 11:38 you'll like this one 11:38 mobileuser lost his worn hand of vecna 11:38 nice 11:38 he was trying to get it to +7 11:39 you cant destroy the hand by over enchanting it 11:39 but for whatever reason the game thought it should be 11:39 in his current session it was fine 11:39 save/reload - hand of vecna gone 11:40 easy to recreate, just wear the hand, try to enchant it to +7, get the 'vibrates violently for awhile, but nothing else happens' message, save/reload 11:40 yeah 11:40 i see it 11:40 interesting 11:40 in read.c line 1289 something is not right 11:41 i put a break; in there to make sure it doesnt go to useup() but that doesant work 11:42 try replacing the ; with otmp->in_use = FALSE; 11:42 just a guess 11:42 hmm 11:42 i just saw yesterday while looking at save.c there's some stuff like "if the item is in-use, handle it specially" so maybe not clearing that is the problem 11:43 yeah something is carrying over from save to reload 11:43 that seems to fix it for me 11:44 yup same 11:44 friggin genius 11:44 GENUS 11:44 PHYLUM 11:44 hah 11:45 i made a couple other edits that seem to make more sense - https://termbin.com/h94o 11:46 makes sense to me 11:46 cool 11:49 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 11:50 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/073b26c26db5...10326f49f411 11:50 [EvilHack] k21971 10326f4 - Fix: the Hand of Vecna could disappear if the game is saved/reloaded after attempting to over-enchant. 11:52 latest commits are live 11:52 !tell mobileuser hand of vecna issue has been fixed, thank you for your selfless contribution to SCIENCE 11:52 I'm on it, K2. 12:07 he sacrificed vecnaless conduct for that 12:10 K2 did you read what I wrote ;-) 12:10 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2022-04-29 11:11 EDT: if you 'overenchant' the hand of vecna, nothing happens to it, but for some reason when you save/reload, it acts like it did evaporate away 12:10 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2022-04-29 11:52 EDT: hand of vecna issue has been fixed, thank you for your selfless contribution to SCIENCE 12:11 yeah 12:11 and... SCIENCE 12:11 \o/ and :( 12:12 heh 12:12 sorry that happened 12:12 where is amateurhour :b 12:12 i'm going to bame amateurhour since he isnt here 12:12 *blame 12:12 it's funnier to say SCAMMED when he is here ;-) 12:12 and then when he comes back i'll deflect 12:12 lol 12:13 heh 12:13 you still have your GoPro right? 12:14 dragonbane 12:14 I'll be fine 12:15 same bug as when I was scammed out of dragonbane some time ago =D 12:15 no that's different 12:15 was that the antimatter vortex thing? 12:15 no 12:16 what was it 12:16 when there was a bug hitting black dragons 12:16 ^ 12:16 oh that 12:16 marked for deletion 12:16 save/reload, poof 12:16 no, that's different 12:16 in_use isnt in play there 12:17 it was just happening and we decided it prob shouldnt given its nature 12:17 ok 12:17 i dont recall a save/reload/poof for dbane 12:17 I do! 12:17 LIES 12:17 pretty long time ago by now 12:17 ah 12:18 maybe I can find it in the old commits somewhere... 12:19 i've slept since then, so I cant be pinned with any responsibility whatsoever 12:19 let's blame amateurhour 12:21 \o/ 12:22 !tell amateurhour on 29/04/2022 at around 4:19pm UTC, you may have felt an odd, uncomfortable sensation without being able to explain why. it's because we in #evilhack came to a consensus that everything is your fault. thank you and have a nice day 12:22 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 12:23 !tell amateurhour mobileuser made me say that (and he blamed you for it) :P 12:23 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 12:24 !tell amateurhour that is K2 blaming you for me getting SCAMMED out of The Hand of Vecna 12:24 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, mobileuser. 12:24 lol 12:25 SCAMMED such a nice word :b 12:25 its up there with 'moist' 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:52800 12:40 Medusa's corpse? wonder if my arch lich ran off and killed her while i wasn't looking 12:41 and i got the credit! 12:47 wewp 12:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22369 13:09 gotta remember to park my arch lich pet before he goes and wakes up a demon lord for me when i'm not prepared 13:13 crap. where's my stash 13:14 i disposed of it for you 13:17 found it 13:21 if i couldn't make level notes my head would explode 13:22 i didn't start using item or level notes in-game until like 2018 13:51 85 marker from the goblin king thank you sir (y) 13:55 nooice 13:56 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:00 what a joke that tortle barbarians have an enchantment skill 14:04 all barbarians do 14:04 skills arent determined by race 14:04 oooh boy I just won the shambling horror lottery 14:04 Attacks: 2d7 touch sleep 14:04 that's it 14:05 also displaced 14:06 i know, just particularly sad for tortles 14:07 why? 14:07 max int/wis is 18/20 14:07 they can cast 14:08 does evilhack even have a level 1 enchantment spell? did confuse get swapped to 1 when sleep moved to 2? 14:08 i believe so 14:09 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 14:09 ah, no it didnt 14:10 it did in vanilla though 14:10 thats rough 14:10 you're rough 14:10 i'd say i am rubber but i'm too rough for rubber 14:10 heh 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragonbane", on T:55521 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:55530 14:13 there, 100% of my gear wished for 14:13 \o/ 14:14 krm26: what does #MGncy mean? 14:14 it reads "emergency" sort of, but my rc does colors based on color codes 14:14 #MG = bold magenta 14:14 #WT = bold white 14:15 ah I see 14:15 #wt = normal white 14:15 etc 14:15 see, just turned my amulet white 14:15 i do stuff like that to minimize my f*ing myself 14:15 I have a similar thing but I think it's like '{W}' or '{G}', I never really use it 14:16 because i LOVE to f myself 14:16 now to figure out what to normally dual wield 14:16 that's clever that you can kind of spell words with them 14:16 it just happens with that one really 14:16 that was the ding ding ding bulb over my head to let me get color codes and an emergency bag 14:17 and i always name my luckstone to remind me what rings to eat 14:17 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:18 oh stupid stupid sunsword unpeaced my arch lich pet didn't it 14:18 i should have expected it to do that, Fffffffff 14:18 now, i die 14:18 you'll be alright 14:18 use sunsword to kill it 14:19 but my poor kitty 14:21 i can't even hit that arch lich, it has 20 levels on me 14:21 and 3 times my health 14:21 "i always name my luckstone to remind me what rings to eat" is a good sentence to present without context to a non nethack player 14:23 lol 14:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:26 i need to start putting jewelry eating into my games i never do it. you lose any gained hp though after the poly right? like from nurses / potions 14:27 EPI: intrinsics gained while polymorphed (like from jewelry) go away when you unpoly 14:29 whats epi aosdict? 14:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Evil_Patch_Idea 14:30 nice 14:32 K2 could there be other places where the Hand could suffer from in_use problems? (disintegration, destroy armor monster spell etc) 14:34 not that i'm aware of 14:35 i never noticed otmp->in_use except with frying your armor from over enchanting 14:35 it's definitely used for other things too 14:35 doesnt hurt to look though 14:37 what does the comment on in_use mean: "for magic items before useup items" (??) 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 438 points, T:872, killed by the Goblin King 14:40 i think it's something like "when an item is going to be destroyed after some additional stuff happens, it gets set in_use so that it will be discarded by an emergency save that comes before it's actually used up"? 14:40 but i don't really understand the comment, so maybe I'm wrong 14:41 oh, and I guess it's also so it won't be destroyed twice 14:42 basically a "this item's destruction is pending" flag 14:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una), 615 points, T:909, killed by the Goblin King 14:53 huh 14:56 ssnufd: for my book, the most important thing is to eat amulets of magical breathing until you no longer have to worry about suffocation/drowning 14:56 it can be fun when accuracy or damage rings are edible, but it is just gravy really 14:57 although protection from shape changers is nice to eat when you can 14:57 ah good call, didnt know either one of those worked :) 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:55847 15:01 by the time you're getting ready to eat jewelry teleport control is almost always passe; probably polymorph control too 15:02 actually learned the other day cerberus corpse gives TC which is sweet 15:02 yeah, pretty rare tho 15:02 i still eat him because at that stage of the game it is convenient to not have to use a ring, but only gotten it once 15:03 oh wow lol gotcha 15:03 for some reason in my head it was 100% 15:03 as like a gehenom present :) 15:04 :) 15:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1185 points, T:2383, quit 15:16 think i got smoky as object detect. id like to see my soko prize locations but ill take a wish as well 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 20 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:412 15:17 my horror: pit hug stun disenchant hallucinate :-( 15:17 disenchant stun is noooo 15:18 attack disenchant or passive 15:18 can horrors have passives? 15:18 not that i've seen 15:18 i havent either 15:19 remember to add your voice to mine, asking k2 to add another random attack to your horrors for each one you kill 15:19 justice for shambling horrors! 15:21 oh my lord true horror 15:21 the last one i had was gigantic or something first one i saw had like 180~ hp 15:21 that's right! we need TRUE horror 15:23 hah 15:25 the last one I got was shy (I forget the actual term---it stayed away from melee) and had a cold breath attack but no cold resistance. So I'd just hang out and and it would kill itself. 15:25 someone pick tool or armor 15:26 !rng tool armor 15:26 ssnufd: tool 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:57382 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:14086 15:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1449 points, T:2227, killed by a werewolf 15:27 "The lava cools and solidifies under Ghulgaf the Markswoman's feet." cool stuff :-) 15:27 \o/ 15:29 nice 15:29 "white-scaled crystal plate mail" fancy! 15:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:34 i am SO SQUISHY 15:35 "The dwarven pioneer turns into a dwarven champion!" uh... 15:35 i think i better alchemy myself up a tremendous number of hp before letting kathryn at me 15:36 ah, another NPC 15:37 or rather a sandestin pretending to be one 15:38 racial pioneers and champions are always shapeshifters 15:38 did you need that crystal plate mobileuser? i really like that and the white scales are fun 15:38 yeah they always get me so excited:( 15:43 "you have never abused your alignment" now im not sure if ive ever seen that haha 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:30269 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2848 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:14569 15:49 ssnufd I need flexible armorfor my demon infidel, so no crystal plate for me :-) 15:50 it's just nice to see what stuff NPC's get 15:54 Sunsword + wraith = :-( 15:58 for sure i love going through their loot 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4389 16:07 jeez master mind flayers are rough on uberslow tortles 16:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:5272 16:26 actual NPCs are always named 16:26 Rather than just having their rank 16:27 unnamed player monsters are more likely to be dopplegangers than sandestins specifically, the latter prefer nasties 16:27 i wish the npcs would sometimes try to engrave elbereth against you 16:27 or pray (succesfully maybe) 16:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5991 16:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:911 16:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided master mind flayers, on T:66618 16:42 it is funny that -34ac, about as high as it is possible for me to get, still lets everything and its mother beat the crap out of me 16:45 even with -50 some things can still beat the crap out of you :-) 16:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 16:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:32313 16:48 speed is the main problem I suppose krm26? everyone gets more hits? 16:51 I always forget: is my death-magic-resistant demon immune to the wand of Orcus (LOGIC) or not (K2 NO FREEBIES LOGIC) :b 16:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law), 63122 points, T:23471, suffocated by a water elemental 16:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Orcus, on T:66852 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 24 points, T:136, killed by a goblin 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:15601 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3446 17:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8933 17:20 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4774 17:28