00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7107 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7740 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9405 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had an elven cloak entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:30272 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11128 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a human mummy, on T:12048 01:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5905 02:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:07 -!- screamingskull has joined #evilhack 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 11348 points, T:8548, withered away 02:38 @e?baby gray dragon 02:38 baby gray dragon (D) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 9 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 3d8 bite physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 0d0 passive cancellation | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide 02:39 grrr... why will it it not poly in the poly trap..... that is one HECK of a 10% 02:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:01 "a +1 bone aklys of excellence" random find, nice 03:38 screamingskull: ...you do know they have MR, right? 03:38 As in player-style MR? 03:39 yeah... was thinking babies had less... wiki says 10%, but on top of that they have . . . . . magic resistance. 03:39 wiki should just say 100% 03:39 i know i know — 03:40 there is propbably a reason why it doesn't 04:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:08 -!- screamingskull has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Medusa, on T:37450 05:01 hello 05:01 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 05:01 hi 05:01 Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack 05:01 K2 why doesn't the light spell blind monsters the same way the wand of light does? 05:03 because no one has ever cast that spell ever 05:04 the wand of light thing really pisses people off when they do it by accident in front of a peaceful though (i think that's the point?) 05:04 like if you engrave test in a temple or whatever 05:05 but yeah it should do the same thing... What are your thoughts on striking/force bolt? shit can be kind of crazy from my limited experience so far 05:07 I haven't really experimented with it yet 05:07 and nobody has made me hurtle yet 05:24 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 05:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:27 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:28 t - a +1 bone aklys of excellence named SayNoMore 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 5856 points, T:5627, killed by a panther 06:11 say no more say no more 06:11 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Bar Gia Mal Neu), 1855 points, T:2044, killed by a golden naga hatchling 06:33 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Bar Gia Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:2608 06:49 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:18 mobileuser it does 07:18 (light spell) 07:22 Hi K2 07:23 ok, I cast it close to a lep and I didn't get the blinded message. Maybe because it was sleeping? 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a frost salamander, on T:15505 07:24 its also not a 100% guarantee a monster will be blinded 07:25 back in a bit 07:25 but 100% when next to a peaceful priest ;-) 07:32 "A lit field surrounds you!  The long worm is blinded by the flash!" \o/ 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16326 07:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) made his first wish - "cursed +2 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of ESP", on T:38431 08:07 heh 08:54 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:04 mobileuser: WHERE IS THE GREASE 09:07 on my helmet 09:09 ppl just want it easy and want free grease with every wish 09:09 in my day we had to EARN our greasy shirts with exercise and determination and not showering 09:13 K2 can I instakill myself as demon by attacking and stinging an NPC wearing black dragon-scaled armor? 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:16793 09:15 possibly yes. the sting wont fire 09:15 oh scaled armor 09:15 i need to check 09:16 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed the eye of the aethiopica", on T:25850 09:30 I think you suppressed it for black dragons but not for black dragon-scaled armor, I'll just need to be careful until I have disint res 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:26129 09:31 i wish there was some way other than a wand of probing to identify dragon-scaled stuff on npcs 09:33 or that probing swapped probability with make invisible 09:33 or speed monster 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a helm of telepathy entrusted to her by Crom, on T:17744 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 18690 points, T:17713, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:26565 09:54 hah, i'm not sure i've completed the quest in under 25k turns in the last two years 09:55 recently i haven't been able to get both mr and reflection in under 50k turns on any run 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1282 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 357936 points, T:26723, quit 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3370 points, T:2725, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 10:35 k2: i really think you should randomize spellcasting school staff appearances 10:35 they still aren't randomized? 10:36 dont think so, not unless i missed a patch 10:36 which i very well might have 10:36 you didnt / they arent 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1528 10:51 so still just glorified "runed dagger" and "samurai sword" etc 10:51 go in o_init.c and see how descriptions get shuffled around, should be easy to add that to staves 11:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:24104 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a copper katana entrusted to her by Crom, on T:24465 11:09 that'd be a good change 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 1235 points, T:2205, quit 11:22 ssnufd -- why did you quit your rogue game earlier? 11:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f4d4f31b8ba2...e9f1d5333903 11:43 [EvilHack] k21971 9ac3d08 - Fix: two-weapon paralysis. 11:43 [EvilHack] k21971 e9f1d53 - Fix: update to 'two-weapon paralysis' commit. 11:50 aosdict thanks 12:01 yup, I see where thge magical staves descriptions could easily be randomized 12:01 however, comma 12:01 :) 12:02 one of the descriptions is 'bone-carved staff', and not every magical staff is made of bone 12:10 "carven staff" 12:11 "scrimshawed staff" 12:11 "engraved staff" 12:11 "another fing staff" 12:12 i'll have to see if I can change an objects unknown descriptor and not break saves 12:12 its gotta break saves? 12:12 that change fits naturally with the Utter Darkness patch when you release drow anyway :-) 12:12 it doesnt 'have' to, I'm saying it might 12:13 i dont know (yet) 12:14 i hope dungeon fungus gets more sophisticated when drow hit! more kinds of fungus! fungus-zombies! potions of fungicide! 12:14 slime mold that eats a hole down to the next level when you wound it, and pudding-splits through that hole 12:17 K2: what's the problem? just the descr being bone and the staff being BONE material? 12:18 other object randomizations are fine shuffling around materials. e.g. the silver wand is randomized to be whatever, but "silver wand" doesn't come apart separate from the wand with SILVER material 12:18 hmm 12:19 K2: i am sorry to inform you that apparently the bugfix for the multiple items on one tile and then e.g a corpse rots away and the tile retains the bright background to indicate an item pile does not work 12:19 evil on hdf 12:20 in what way 12:21 when a corpse rots away the tile still doesnt get updated so it still displays as an item pile 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Crom, on T:25242 12:21 you mean as a single item? 12:23 lets say there is a kobold zombie corpse and a dagger on the same tile and you can see it. some turns later the corpse rots away. still displays as an item pile 12:24 so you're saying one object remains but its still highlighted? 12:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3c2bea77d9b3e41f25af797c8cc1ed035ebc3480 12:25 K2: yeah. sorry i was unclear, the better example are two zombie corpses, one gnome one kobold, one rots away, still gets highlighted 12:25 ok 12:28 hm but only in specific cases it appears 12:28 the easy way to reproduce it is gone because thats fixed but i swear i saw this happening when i fought a zombie pile 12:32 hmm i think it might be an edge case with corpses rising 12:32 the thing i complained so much about is mostly fixed 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a bone large shield entrusted to her by Crom, on T:26148 12:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1370 points, T:4704, died of starvation, while fainted 12:42 read that as "sorry I was nuclear" 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a steel shield of light entrusted to her by Crom, on T:27782 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2693 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:29429 13:33 k2: the encyclo text on thoth amon still references the heart of ahriman 13:33 which is accurate with respect to conan the conqueror but perhaps not apropose of the current artifact reward 13:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:3576 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4002 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:4898 14:20 krm26 thanks 14:21 also, thoth amon is frequently mean to me when i visit him for no reason 14:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a glass helm of speed, on T:18545 14:37 !tell screamingskull the MR stat given in Pinobot is for monster magic resistance - it's completely independent of any player-style MR a monster can possess (say, by being a gray dragon or wearing an MR source) 14:37 screamingskull shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 14:37 rebatela: also late but I've used the light spell to blind monsters in exactly the same way lmao 14:37 I also make sure to have space from pets before using it 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 58 points, T:346, killed by a jackal 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:39564 15:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 266994 points, T:32675, killed by an ogre lady 15:09 krm26 =L 15:09 heh, i was flailing away with my mind on something else, something had yanked my Cleaver 15:09 doo de doo 15:10 ouch! 15:10 eh, if i cared, i woulda been more attentive 15:10 now tortle again? :-) 15:10 that's the rule! 15:10 \o/ 15:11 barbarian is a class i've never ascended in evil with (cuz do no like), so i've been hammering away at that 15:11 i am much too flighty to be entrusted with cleaver 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (suffocated by a gelatinous cube), on T:23618 15:14 you know my feelings about cleaver :-) 15:18 it's honestly fine imo 15:20 yeh it's fine just leave it on the ground and it cant hurt u 15:24 * K2 takes notes 15:24 new patch: unattended cleaver follows you around and purposely hits shopkeepers, priests and guards until you wield it 15:25 and you get the blame 15:25 i've always wanted a dancing sword that is an item that works like a pet, following you around 15:26 Mordenkainen's sword 15:27 from ad&d 15:27 easy way to do it - make a new monster that has weapon glyph 15:28 steal bits from create familiar spell 15:28 no, you should also be able to have it in inventory and wield it if you want 15:28 that's not how the spell works 15:29 YOU'RE the one that said the spell 15:29 you need to satisfy MY needs 15:29 * K2 scoffs 15:29 ps. there should be a couple of other noises for "Clonk!" 15:29 gets pretty repetitve in goblin town 15:30 Bonk 15:30 Chonk 15:30 Boop 15:30 Rawr 15:30 Ewwwor 15:30 NNNNNNNN 15:30 good start 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:5142 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5364 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu), 716 points, T:1230, killed by the Goblin King 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had a pair of snow boots entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:6768 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2592 points, T:7087, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 15:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1843 15:47 K2: awesome qol idea: you dont opening tins when you get hungry. "You start opening the tin. You are beginning to feel hungry. You stop opening the tin." 15:47 replace hungry with weak and its even worse 15:49 could also affect vanilla 15:52 even better qol idea: don't pick up tins 15:52 did you mean 'you dont stop opening tins when hungry' ? 15:52 you more desperately try to open them till you die of starvation instead >:) 15:54 K2: yup 15:54 amateurhour: that happened to me already 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 11658 points, T:6511, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 15:59 that's vanilla behavior. maybe ask the devteam to consider it 16:07 Engagement isn't gold, right? 16:11 jesus i forgot that random teleporters will just plunk me right down into random water as a tortle. that is a total screw in the early game 16:11 wrong Umbire ;-) 16:11 it's gold 16:11 ok 16:11 i think that tortles should start with one of their weapons rustproof 16:13 I think tortles should have their inventory protected against water damage, I forget what that intrinsic is called in dnethack 16:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 16:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:14 ah, "waterproof" 16:14 i mean, they have a shot at oilskin, which is nice, but even so 16:14 makes sense for trident to be rustproof i think 16:14 they are difficult enough, makes sense to amplify their few advantages 16:14 'waterproof' intrinsic is silly 16:14 not happening 16:15 I know 16:15 i just didnt want anyone to get their hopes up :) 16:15 when you introduce the gelatinous cube player race it makes sense, keeping their inventory on the inside :-) 16:15 lol 16:16 it's also silly btw that intrinsic disint res protects your inventory 16:19 "silly" is a dangerous label to start throwing around in nethack, a fundamentally silly game 16:19 but as a mechanic to change to make the game more evil, it would certainly reek of evilness 16:20 since "fixing" doesnt = disintegration resistant 16:20 well, you can defend with reflection 16:20 the way reflection works now that is partial tho, right? so you could still lose inventory 16:20 like your bag of holding 16:20 haha 16:21 that would be too evil 16:21 and what about being digested by a black dragon -- can't reflect that 16:21 the partial damage is already to your own person 16:21 pop out nude as the day you were born 16:21 (i'm disappointed, btw, that sea dragons and water elementals don't get water in your bag) 16:21 digestion by black dragon has never involved disintegration 16:22 which is silly, isn't it :-) 16:22 if there is physical contact anywhere, it is in something's stomach 16:22 consistently, reflection protects your invent but not you completely, which is fine (?) 16:24 you suggest evil digestion? your inventory burns when engulfed by a red dragon for example? 16:25 well, isn't it the scales that cause the effect? 16:25 it transfers to the scales when worn as armor 16:25 ah thanks qt 16:25 the interior of the stomach isn't scaled i guess 16:25 there you go krm26 :b 16:25 K2: aha!! i got it! the thing i saw was that you can see corpses rotting away even when they are not in your vision 16:25 so there is this tile with a trap, a rotting orc corpse and some crossbow bolts 16:26 the corpse rotted away and now i see the red % but the corpse isnt there anymore 16:26 its not in my vision though 16:26 that is your memory netsysfire 16:26 when you see it it will update correctly 16:26 "now i see the red %" ? I don't get it, that sounds fine 16:26 there is "remembered vision 16:26 the problem is that the invert part goes away 16:26 what krm26 said :-) 16:27 yes but it updated while i did not see the corpse 16:27 qt: exactly 16:27 ah, tricky 16:27 that's sort of an unavoidable consequence of how glyphs work in 3.6 i think 16:27 however it doesnt apply to stuff i saw via food detection 16:28 i think the way piletop markers work in 3.6 is just whenever it (re)draws an item glyph, it checks to see if there are currently multiple items on that square, and if there are it inverts it or whatever 16:29 so basically it doesn't "remember" whether it's a piletop glyph or not. i'm pretty sure this was fixed in 3.7 with the expanded glyphs commits 16:29 since piletop glyphs are now a separate glyph class 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 366 points, T:1397, zombified by a gnome zombie 16:32 so without a big change like that I think you're sort of left to choose between the original bug you reported (when the item is on top of a corpse that rots away, the piletop marker remains), or this new one (when the corpse on top of a pile rots away unseen, the piletop marker disappears) 16:33 i guess you might be able to do something hacky like 'if you can currently see the square, call newsym_force, but if not, call newsym' 16:34 thats what i mean 16:34 i'd prefer this bug instead of the older one 16:36 i wish you could throw a tethered aklys from your offhand 16:36 i think there are similar issues with item materials, which is another thing that just gets checked at render time rather than having separate glyphs per material. so it just remembers 'there was a knife here'; if the knife is still there, it'll check and use its material, but if the knife is gone it'll be drawn with the default material 16:37 similar to the reason thrown items aren't ever drawn with special materials 16:37 while they're in the air 16:39 maybe the butt javelin is only strapped to your dominant cheek so must be thrown from that side 16:40 krm26: dual-wielding aklyses (aklydes? I think we talked about this before...) and being able to multishot them both in one turn would be sweet 16:40 rule of cool says we should be allowed to do that 16:41 i wasn't even asking for that much 16:42 just that if you're single aklys happened to be offhand you could still throw it and have it potentially return 16:42 it is still a full round action to throw the weapon, whether it is main or offhand 16:42 i would even accept an offhand to hit penalty when throwing 16:42 MAGIC LAMP ON DLVL 1 16:43 errmahgerd 16:43 \o/ 16:43 NetSysFire, killed by a djinni :b 16:43 wish for a beautiful hawaiian shirt 16:43 !lastgame NetSysFire 16:43 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1651005730.evil.html 16:43 mobileuser: it happened 16:43 he was angy 16:44 damn the odds 16:44 :O 16:44 F 16:44 K2: i actually hoped for an "omghax" 16:44 mobileuser: you jinxed NetSysFire 16:44 lol 16:44 oops 16:44 djinni was out of grease probably 16:45 as punishment mobileuser, you must do dishes in perpetuity 16:45 don't threaten mobi with a good time 16:45 lol 16:45 the never-ending sink full of dishes 16:45 that's like throwing him in the briar patch 16:45 but but but NetSysFire wanted me to splat on astral the other day! 16:45 :b 16:45 lol you remembered that? 16:46 grease is a serious biz 16:46 haha the ungreased wand of death! 16:46 meanwhile, Croesus needs killing... 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:8570 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6796 16:49 an uncursed +5 bone skull cap (being worn) thanks rng 16:49 FOUNTAIN WISH 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed spellbook of cure sickness", on T:1485 16:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Croesus, on T:40791 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "ih", on T:8909 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1474 points, T:3483, killed by a water demon, while fainted from lack of food 16:54 ironic 16:55 k2: weird dual-wielding aklys primary behavior; throw and return; stops dual wield, updates offhand to say not wielded; BUT pressing X then says "You switch to your primary weapon" with no effect 16:57 Could that be thingy interface weirdnes... 16:57 curses? 16:58 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:58 such a weird name 16:59 I think I remember that 2-weaponing gets "restored" when the aklys returns 16:59 but maybe curses doesn't update correctly 17:01 you seem to be correct, ctrl-x shows i am still wielding two weapons at once but the offhand has not updated back from not wielded to wielded in opposite hand 17:01 so curses bug 17:02 ORCTOWN! 17:05 orctown good or bad? 17:05 super good, it is the best town 17:06 nice 17:06 "Your helm of brilliance corrodes!" 17:06 guaranteed convertible altar, guaranteed general store for price id 17:06 I thought all those helms were default steel.... 17:06 guarateed orc corpses to eat 17:06 I agree krm26 17:07 other people are sad though because of no priest 17:09 soooo frustrating that "repair armor" only lets you select a target at advanced 17:10 I still find that a senseless restriction when a simple scroll does let you select 17:10 yeah that is the least evil thing to ever happen in evilhack, picking the armor 17:11 it makes armor getting shkrunked off you not a possibility in endgame anymore, where before you never had the luxury of taking off gear to repair the thing that was about to go poof 17:14 k2: disappointing that retreating into your shell when you are being crushed seems to accomplish nothing. shells are notoriously hard to crush 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu), 16044 points, T:9437, killed by a warg, while praying 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9625 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:9594 17:38 hmmm ssnufd  quit again 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 16 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:40632 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:9952 18:28 krm26 i was thinking same thing 18:29 crush and bee stings 18:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:17070 18:48 K2: idk about bee stings, since your arms are apparently still sticking out of your shell. seems like it wouldn't block bee stings since there are still exposed parts of your body 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:17213 18:58 your arms arent sticking out 18:58 its ok 19:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:05 or your shell is painted in bright colors and the bees are naturally attracted to it 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:19207 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 29188 points, T:19229, killed by a pit fiend 19:16 this is why we don't let amateurhour design features like readable hawaiian tortle shells 20:01 k2: would it be fun if monsters that haven't already "seen" you can't see you in your shell? i.e. if they only see you enshelled they don't realize you're an adversary and ignore you 20:02 so you could be in an empty room, pop into your shell for a few hundred turns, and nothing would bug you until you popped out 20:02 but when you dive in defensively monsters obviously already know what's happening and can keep trying to whale on you 20:03 and by whale i mean wail 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1396 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 2611 points, T:1873, killed by a piranha 20:21 krm26 there's already this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c735dacf24412ac23e4c4a7e26dd996d9da76869 20:21 that's not exactly the same as not knowing where you are, it's more like they keep their distance from you 20:22 if you put something in set_apparxy that would be more like "they don't know where you are" (basically it'd be like being invisible or displaced, so they know your general area but might attack the wrong square) 20:23 didn't know about that k2, cool 20:24 33 commits with the word 'tortle' in it already hah 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a spellbook of lightning given to her by Anhur, on T:15013 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:15099 20:35 did the YANI where you tip one container into another ever get implemented? 20:36 yup 20:36 is it in the current evilhack? 20:37 yup 20:38 it's in vanilla 20:39 I see. The target container has to be in inventory? 20:40 makes it kind of hard to tip a bag into a stash chest 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:48718 20:48 agreed bouquet 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3507 20:48 i get a lot more use out of the xnh implementation 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 63537 points, T:16478, petrified by a cockatrice 20:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4897 21:00 ah you cant tip into a container on the ground? 21:00 in xnh, yeah you can 21:01 it's a little weird because you have to select them with 1, 2, 3 instead of a, b, c 21:01 bc the menu mixes items in inventory with invlets and items on the ground, which are assigned digits for fear of conflicting with the invlets 21:02 hmm 21:02 so it does stand out a bit but it's useful 21:02 i grabbed the vanilla implementation 21:02 i thought you could tip into containers on the ground 21:02 it'd be nice if there were a way to avoid using digits but I can't really think of a way, other than to split them into two separate menus (like "Tip it into a container in inventory? [y/n] n Tip it into a container on the floor? [y/n]") 21:02 hmm 21:03 that would work 21:03 as it stands right now, if you're standing over a container on the ground, it asks if you want to tip it first 21:03 in xnh it's not exactly tipping either, it's 'transferring'. you can choose to move individual items, you don't have to dump the whole thing at once 21:04 then it goes to containers in inventory 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6587 21:04 neat 21:04 it's really useful 21:04 very cool feature 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 crystal plate mail", on T:7016 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a mithril long sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7001 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a steel two-handed sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7203 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:30961 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30964 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:31088 21:49 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3867 21:49 -!- Guest3867 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:50 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:10157 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:34230 22:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 623 points, T:2133, killed by a hobbit zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:20 fuck. lag. 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 24777 points, T:12242, killed by the wrath of Thoth 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Sam Gia Mal Law), 257832 points, T:33855, petrified by Medusa 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:47552 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1564 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:38102 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38107 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:38349 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:14692 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14693 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6654 points, T:4926, killed by a gnomish watchman 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Kni Dwa Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:14858