00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9787 00:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0da7eff564d0...0b6f457f8dc6 00:29 [EvilHack] k21971 0b6f457 - The Blacksmith's Cookbook. 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Pri Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Tymora, on T:27207 00:36 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:48 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 01:02 >Forge plate mail (x2) to create: large splint mail 01:02 :OOO 01:04 K2: will the material be kept? e.g what happens if you forge a mithril arrow and a mithril spear? what if you mix materials? 01:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/996d2c80c5a78a6aa0b9cd34b2503e041f97fbff 01:08 gnite o/ 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "Blessed The Ring of P'hul", on T:80447 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:80450 01:28 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 fireproof bone gauntlets of power", on T:80472 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed mithril magic lamp", on T:80483 01:47 K2: WILL THERE EVER BE BABY TURTLES IN EVILHACK? 02:32 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:81009 02:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:04 -!- screamingskull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:37 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:83617 04:39 [hdf-us] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:83641 05:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 523 points, T:1071, killed by a dwarf lady 05:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 284 points, T:786, killed by a gecko 05:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 198 points, T:673, killed by a brown mold 05:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 48 points, T:235, killed by a fox 06:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:1746 06:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 557 points, T:1748, killed by a mountain dwarf 06:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:32383 06:23 right, I don't understand yet why my elven long sword didn't become Excalibur 06:26 Because it has to be a normal long sword 06:27 You're probably confusing yourself with Dirge, which can be any type of long sword 06:28 ah bah 06:28 non-zero amount of people making that mistake lately 06:28 inconsistent K2 :-) 06:29 doesn't matter a whole lot, at least I know now 06:29 yeah, assumptions being made 06:30 already noted on the Excalibur page 06:30 EvilHack article would've listed it in the artifact changes section 06:30 hmmmm 06:31 I would be in favour of allowing any long sword for Excalibur 06:32 food time 06:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 4 points, T:180, killed by a falling rock 06:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 54 points, T:262, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 06:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 28 points, T:48, killed by a grid bug 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 225 points, T:738, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bat 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 159 points, T:110, killed by falling down a mine shaft 06:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1824 points, T:3329, quit 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 93 points, T:341, killed by a jackal 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 623 points, T:1629, killed by a baby silver dragon 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of hiking boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:32805 07:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 3805 points, T:2668, killed by a black pudding 07:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 213 points, T:729, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 8 points, T:94, killed by a sewer rat 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 39 points, T:108, killed by a sewer rat, while dragging an iron ball 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 8 points, T:134, killed by a fox 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:5393 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5518 07:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 2437 points, T:6246, killed by a giant ant 07:56 YES! Found a random blessed spellbook and read it and it was magic missile 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 609 points, T:1774, zombified by an orc zombie, while frozen by a potion 08:02 nice one! 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 258 points, T:2222, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:10 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 48 points, T:185, killed by a water demon 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 8 points, T:85, killed by a jackal 08:18 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 08:18 found a magic lamp too... Tempted to wish for dragonbane, but i'd really like to get it from altar 08:20 did you try wishing for a blessed spellbook of create monster and do an extinctionist 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a gold axe entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:32569 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:27 hmmm no. If i'm wishing for a spellbook, it will be polymorph (already know CM anyway) 08:31 but i was just about to waste marker charges trying to write magic missile unknown and then i happened to find it (pre blessed as well!) on the floor 08:32 usually when that happens and i just read without id'ing it's detect food or something 08:33 netsysfire: what happened with the extinctionist game? Are you still playing it? 08:33 no i died lol 08:40 that one run is long gone 08:40 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1648388986.evil.html this one 08:41 still trying to attempt a glorious one like this again though 08:56 [backscroll] elven/orcish long swords are made by chaotic races, therefore are ok to become dirge (DIRGE \o/), excalibur does not approve of elven/orcish weapons 08:57 ... DIRGE 08:58 DIRGE 09:04 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:05 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) murdered Nicodemus, his faithful sewer rat, on T:582 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Crom, on T:18749 09:26 thx! wearing dragonhide cloak of displacement, get a signficantly worse cloak of displacement from crom. good old crom! can always count on crom 09:29 i'm used to getting garbage but it is particularly insulted to be given matching garbage 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 643 points, T:2772, killed by a rothe 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 4 points, T:40, killed by a fox 09:30 the gods care not! 09:31 krm26, mobileuser, did you see this? https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0b6f457f8dc6b08ae67dd55021f8d50f75b2f1f2 09:31 whut what 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 38 points, T:353, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 09:31 ah the cookbook 09:32 yes I saw that :-) 09:32 \o/ 09:32 DIRGE 09:32 ... CARL 09:32 AKLYS 09:33 heh 09:33 if/when recipes change, i'll need to remember to update the cookbook as well 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 82 points, T:376, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 09:34 the cookbook is a nice addition. while you are doing that, have you thought about putting an alchemist's handbook in too? 09:34 that info is obviously old hat in the wiki, but would still be neat to have it in-game 09:35 if you do THAT, make it a trilogy: the transmuter's grimoire, lists one recipe: stuff, polymorph 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) murdered Nicodemus, his faithful giant rat, on T:775 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 450 points, T:784, killed by a wererat 09:38 heh 09:38 the alchemy bit, that should really be the devteam 09:38 but, that's a stellar idea 09:39 or maybe they want players to experiment and discover on their own (I get that) 09:40 the forging bit though, it's a lot. some players will prob experiement on their own and discover it the old fashioned way, but at least there's *something* 09:40 YANI: a book that explains wtf you're meant to do for the invocation 09:41 huh yeah 09:41 quest leader can give it to you :-) 09:41 you can get info from your quest leader about what to do with the AoY, but i dont think they say what to do about the invocation do they? 09:45 I never chat them, I just get what I need and/or kill 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Pri Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:31080 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 27 points, T:247, killed by a jackal 10:21 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:23 the quest leader tells you to go back for the bell if you finish your quest without carrying it 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6055 10:34 -!- ssnufd85 has joined #evilhack 10:37 -!- ssnufd80 has joined #evilhack 10:38 sounds right 10:38 -!- ssnufd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:38 so this whole time, there's nothing in the game that tells you exactly hwoto perform the invocation? 10:38 *how to 10:39 hah, trial and error baby! 10:40 -!- ssnufd85 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:40 I think you can spend multiple ludios' worth of gold to piece together a series of cryptic clues from the oracle 10:41 but that sucks noone is gonna do that 10:41 i think the idea is that you piece it together over the course of several games 10:41 > A candelabrum affixed with seven candles shows the way with a magical light. 10:41 that's the most clear clue 10:41 can't find anything about the book of the dead with some naive greps 10:41 aren't there also hints if you try to complete the invocation without all the items? 10:42 I don't think so but I don't know 10:42 rodney could drop a second grimoire that discusses the invocation 10:42 that'd be neat 10:42 how would anyone even know to do this stuff on a random square in a seeming dead end 10:43 the same ritual is in Zork and Ultima 10:44 well in pokemon red you can push the truck to get mew, let's put a truck instead of the vibrating square 10:44 (you can't actually push the truck to get mew) 10:44 yup knew about zork. not ultima though 10:44 i can't remember what ultima game, but it's really similar -- even the messages after you use each item are kind of similar 10:44 i posted about it on rgrn a little while ago 10:44 i dont remember playing a lot of ultima. bards tale and wizardry though, woo 10:45 K2: https://bilious.alt.org/rgrn/?137816-137825 10:45 -!- ssnufd80 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:46 PatR is too lazy to get you the answer qt, can't even be bothered holding a seance smh my head 10:47 okay, there is a vague hint if you try the invocation ritual without the bell or the candelabrum 10:48 wow nice, thanks for that link qt 10:48 ooh found my own stupid rotten food death in the barbarian quest 10:48 come on SECOND CLEAVER! 10:48 if you read the book on the VS without the bell "You hear a faint chime..." and if you read it without the candelabrum "Vlad's doppelganger is amused" 10:49 and i was sad to see that nethack was never a part of 'ready player one' or two 10:49 the author must not of ever played it 10:50 "Vlad's doppelganger is amused" is a weird hint, I don't know what I'm supposed to imagine is happening 10:51 is there literally a person nearby who looks amused? it sounds like something that was originally "You sense Vlad is amused" and then someone was like "well, Vlad might be dead" so they changed it to "Vlad's doppelganger" 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:22781 10:52 why have I never noticed Vlad's doppelganger before this? 10:53 who is vlad's doppelganger anways 10:53 is it... carl? 10:53 chad 10:54 ah yeah, chad 10:54 what a douche 10:54 maybe vlad's doppelganger follows you around the whole game but it's never remarked upon because it's normal in nethack world 10:58 >and i was sad to see that nethack was never a part of 'ready player one' or two 10:58 that would require the author to have actual taste 10:58 and not be a contrarian pop-nerd 10:59 there's a sequel to that book? 11:00 omigod that book was hot garbage, even ignoring its misogyny and poor writing 11:00 doesn't it end with the guy being the mega-rich king of the world or something? 11:00 poorly plotted wish-fulfilment tripe 11:01 a similar story done right, Daemon by Daniel Suarez 11:01 ready player two wasnt as good as ready player one 11:01 qt yeah there's a sequel 11:01 i liked ready player one, book was better than the movie 11:02 a similar story done mostly right except for the crazy ultra-libertarian philosophy, Reamde by Neal Stephenson 11:03 an almost completely non-similar story but nobody ever reads it and it is great, The Long Run by Daniel Keyes Moran 11:03 i'll stop now 11:05 lol why 11:06 it's good to share titles of books that you like 11:06 i need something new to read 11:06 because i could sit here alllllll day 11:06 hahah 11:06 sadly i just found out one of the forgotten authors i like who i try to push on people was secretly a white supremacist :-( 11:06 lkgkjfkdsf 11:06 uiuuugh 11:07 i know 11:07 that's the run when it comes to cyberpunk/speculative shit 11:07 rub* 11:07 i hate that, you find an author you like and find out they are an asshole 11:07 small example - anne rice 11:07 i really enjoyed the vampire chronicles, at least the first few books 11:07 yeah, happened last decade to me with john c wright, what a disappointment. such a flipping good writer too 11:07 and as time went by she got more and more crazy 11:08 and the last couple of books she wrote concerning the vampires, she ended it by saying that the source of the vampires power were from aliens who created atlantis 11:08 W T F 11:08 i think with rice as she got more popular she felt more free to let her always-crazy shine through more :-) that happens too 11:08 I mean that's just weird ass lore honestly 11:09 weird lore is good 11:09 there's other aspects of her to point to for that anyhow 11:09 k2 please write some weird ass lore to explain the butt withering of shambling horrors 11:09 lore can be as weird as it wants if it is internally consistent 11:09 :) 11:09 qt and his butt withering fetish 11:10 if it doesn't compile then i can't read it 11:12 man I'd hate to be an author you'd get everyone ripping ur writing apart all the time 11:12 I don't think I'd have the self-esteem to handle that 11:12 no kidding -- never share any personal information with anyone :-) 11:12 and you'd probably have just as many people loving what you wrote 11:13 you're always going to have critics 11:13 if I wrote a book I'd literally make it popcorn tier and that'd be the point and then when someone is like 'this book is shallow' I'd be like yeah ik that's the point 11:13 instant immunity 11:15 damn now I actually want to write one 11:18 i experience the same thing with evilhack - create that the public can experience, you'll run the entire gamut of likes/dislikes 11:18 evilhack is a great work of literature 11:19 considering that spelling and grammar are weak points for me, that's really something :) 11:20 amateurhour what would you write about? 11:20 evilhack is full of lore loopholes, who is Vlad's doppelganger?!? there's also a complete omission of ass lore for the butt withering! 11:20 * K2 gasps 11:21 vlad's doppelganger was cursed to eternally stand near the vibrating square and look amused after he stole butt withering sauce from the gods 11:21 'sauce' 11:21 ewww lol 11:21 the word of the day is - moist 11:32 amateurhour: there would be a substantial amount of people who think the book is deep rather than shallow and it can be dangerous to mess with that ignorance 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 391 points, T:1258, killed by a hobgoblin 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 14 points, T:86, killed by a jackal 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 654 points, T:1228, killed by a piranha 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) murdered Nicodemus, his faithful giant rat, on T:3713 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4036 12:04 -!- cbus_ has joined #evilhack 12:07 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:11 soooo... i think we may be ready for 0.8.0 release 12:11 and now that I have said publically... <30 more previously unknown bugs enters chat> 12:12 ! 12:12 can any of you think of any outstanding bugs that havent been addressed? actual bugs, not 'need more doggo bobble hats' :P 12:13 I consider that a game-breaking bug 12:13 uhhhhh, haven't touched Evil in a hot minute but nothing stands out 12:14 use of external quest artifacts when popping on helm of opposite alignemnt? particularly the condition i asked about, ring of p'hul under cursed gloves when turn lawful? 12:14 Umbire, what, are you TOO GOOD for evil? come on 12:15 krm26 are you saying that's not strict enough? 12:15 i tested that 12:16 -!- cbus_ has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 12:16 i thought you said it blasted but stayed in use? 12:16 correct 12:16 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 12:16 no, I just 12:16 haven't played 12:16 imo definitely bug, needs to slip off onto the ground, and if it has to destroy your gloves on its way so beit 12:17 :-) 12:17 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 12:18 heh 12:22 worried about thoth-amon without reflection but i'll probbbbabbly be finnnnnne 12:39 qt, anything you know of that needs attention? 12:41 i don't think so 12:42 alrighty 12:44 well, here are some things i wrote down, idk if any of these have been fixed. i don't see anything major though https://termbin.com/n5ye 12:46 chameleon zombie-immunity is a feature, not a bug! 12:46 maybe those shapechanging ones are intended but they seemed weird to me while playing 12:46 vampire one def bug tho 12:47 -- countdown continues, the vampire turns to stone 12:47 ^ that's what should happen yeah? 12:47 no, if killed during countdown, cancel stoning 12:47 ? 12:47 sorry wait i'm confused 12:48 i could imagine it being something that is expected behavior 12:48 vampire one def NOT bug -- shouldn't it work that way? 12:48 yeah 12:48 sorry, i should keep my mouth shut when i'm not paying attention, my bad 12:48 it just seemed weird to me that the bat was 'killed', then came back to life in another form, then instantly died when the countdown expired 12:48 while if the countdown expires while in bat form, it revives as a vampire normally 12:49 OHHHH 12:49 i would say your SECOND case is the bug 12:49 i would say its behaving normally. that the bat is 'killed' is misleading 12:49 countdown expires in bat form, it should "revive" as a petrified vampire 12:49 krm26: but that's vanilla behavior, that if you stone a vampire in bat form it revives as a vampire 12:50 yes, but it is BOGUS vanilla behavior 12:50 some monster spells are considered 'yours' <--- do you know which ones exactly? 12:50 fireball one is prob fire bolt 12:51 they just seem contradictory to me, that in one case the stoning passes between forms and in the other it's confined to bat form 12:51 but like i said, i can imagine it being the expected behavior, it just felt odd 12:51 qt: definitely contradictory look-and-feel between those two behaviors 12:52 oh i think i see it 12:53 K2: i'm not sure but zap_over_floor uses 'your' if (type>=0 && !exploding_wand_typ). so it might apply to beam traps too? 12:53 there was a similar issue with "his own fireball" in xnh 12:54 if (yours || canseemon(mtmp)) { 12:54 You("blast %s with %s!", mon_nam(mtmp), 12:54 (spellnum == MGC_FIRE_BOLT) ? "fire" : "ice"); 12:54 ^ part of ucast_wizard_spell() in mcastu.c 12:54 that's all wrong 12:54 acid blast is same way 12:55 that might be part of it 12:56 i think there's also a component of it similar to the thing addressed with xnh commit f22ce46, based on what i wrote about "his own fireball" 12:57 ah thanks 12:57 but i don't think i ever investigated it deeply or anything, just noticed some messages described spells cast by a monster as "yours" 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by Crom, on T:25875 12:58 ucast_wizard_spell() (and its priest spell twin) handle you as monster casting those spells and also mon vs mon 12:58 you're probably seeing the 'yours' bit when a monster is casting those spells at another monster 12:58 or 'You' 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Crom, on T:26459 13:06 the specific "Your bolt reveals a secret door!" message comes from zap_over_floor, which should probably be using the value of 'moncast' in determining 'yours' 13:06 you added the moncast param to it but 'yourzap' is just (type >= 0 && !exploding_wand_typ) 13:06 maybe add a && !moncast in there? 13:08 ah 13:09 sounds legit 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:12788 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12809 13:13 lets test that out 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13439 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:14276 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:14312 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Gutso's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:14475 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:21984 13:40 qt under what condition did you see that exactly? 13:41 the 'your bolt reveals a secret door' 13:41 presumably when a bolt hit a secret door 13:41 oooh 13:41 lol 13:41 no i meant 13:41 hahaha 13:41 it was a monster zapping a wand of striking at you correct? 13:42 i don't think so 13:43 i think it happens with something like a wand of fire 13:43 ah right 13:43 striking would destroy the door not just 'reveal it' iirc 13:43 but i think i wrote that down months ago so I don't know the exact circumstances 13:44 The barbed devil zaps you with a bolt of fire! The fireball hits you! Your shield smoulders away! The spell reveals a secret door. 13:44 ^ without any edits 13:44 i'll try wand of fire 13:44 i want to recreate it first before doing any edits 13:44 i guess it must have been a wand because it says 'bolt' 13:45 maybe it was fixed by some other change in the meantime 13:45 the thing i just pasted, that was range spell attack 13:47 The hill orc zaps a wand of fire! The bolt of fire hits you! You see a puff of smoke. The blast reveals a secret door. The door is consumed in flames! 13:47 huh 13:47 hmm 13:48 but... adding && !moncast to that bit makes sense 13:48 actually wait, i wrote 'fireball spell' 13:49 but maybe that's just about the "caught himself in his own fireball" thing? 13:49 idk, does a fireball say "your bolt reveals a secret door"? sounds unlikely 13:49 so from the spell fire bolt 13:49 ok lets test that 13:49 isn't that what you already tested above? 13:49 The barbed devil zaps you with a bolt of fire! The fireball hits you! Your shield smoulders away! The spell reveals a secret door. 13:50 the fireball bit is misleading 13:50 it used to say bolt 13:50 but what I did to make it say that caused errors 13:50 it is technically a bolt 13:50 the 'moncast' thing was added when I added fire/ice bolt monster spells 13:51 is 'a bolt of fire' different from the fire bolt spell? 13:51 yes 13:51 oh ok 13:51 sorry to interupt, with that your thing, would this be an example? "magical energies are absorbed from medusa. your iron crude bow resists!" 13:51 fire bolt spell is actually a monsters version of fireball 13:51 ssnufd that was fixed yesterday, will be in new version 13:52 okey doke :) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34459 13:54 recreated it 13:54 Steve the Conjurer casts a spell! Steve the Conjurer blasts you with fire! Your bolt reveals a secret door. 13:55 acid blast is also affected as well 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1865 points, T:3669, killed by a water demon, while disrobing 13:55 so now lets try your idea qt 13:56 i don't know if that will help actually, K2 13:56 becuase explode() seems to put MON_CASTBALL in there for any explosion 13:56 not just those caused by monsters 13:57 so it will probably fix that particular issue, but it will mean your own explosions start being called 'the' instead of 'your' 13:57 i don't know why MON_CASTBALL is in there for all explosions 13:57 Ubo the invisible Conjurer blasts you with fire! The bolt reveals a secret door. The door is consumed in flames! 13:58 qt, its probably because I went by how it was done in grunthack 13:58 this is an early addition 13:58 maybe you could change it to `context.mon_moving ? MON_CASTBALL: 0` or something 13:59 hmm 14:00 Where do you want to cast the spell? (For instructions type a '?') The spell reveals a secret door. The door is consumed in flames! You are caught in the fireball! 14:00 that's ok i think 14:01 that's without changing it to context.mon_moving ? MON_CASTBALL : 0? 14:01 yes 14:02 testing this, i found another very minor bug 14:02 unrelated 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 298 points, T:883, killed by a small mimic 14:02 in wizmode, if i try to create 'gnomish wizard' or 'elven wizard', instead of getting those monsters, I get a player monster wizard instead (gnome or elf race) 14:04 yeah, i think i noticed that before 14:04 brb 14:04 k 14:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0b6f457f8dc6...0091e51ef3a6 14:12 [EvilHack] k21971 0091e51 - Fix: improper feedback when a monster spellcaster destroys a secret door with fire/ice bolt spell. 14:15 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 14:16 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 14:26 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 145980 points, T:34883, quit 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 15 points, T:329, killed by a system shock 14:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0091e51ef3a6...3340a7a4ab40 14:47 [EvilHack] k21971 3340a7a - Fix: improper death reason when killed by a thrown potion of oil. 14:55 aosdict I found a bug that exists in both xnethack and evilhack 14:55 has to do with thrown potions of oil (monster throwing at player) 14:57 scenario: monster throws a lit potion of oil at the player. player is already down to 1-2 hp left. potion hits player, force of hit kills the player before the potion can explore and call end_burn(). player dies, goes through the whole DYWYPI bit, you see your grave, then this: 14:57 Postgame wrapup disrupted. 14:57 obj_is_local 14:57 Aborted (core dumped) 14:59 backtrace (xnethack) - https://termbin.com/a2nd 15:00 xlogfile entry is written to at least 15:00 death=killed by a thrown potion 15:01 *can explode hah 15:03 maybe toss in an end_burn() in potionhit if the player dies? 15:03 wouldn't work 15:03 i already reported this to the devteam and it's been fixed in 3.7 15:03 3.7 has tossed potions of oil by monsters? 15:03 once you call losehp with more than the player's hp, the program is not going to come back out of there 15:04 hmm 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:27209 15:04 good to know, qt 15:04 there's a chance a potion on a landmine won't break and in that case it can fly towards you 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27210 15:04 * aosdict prepares a giant WONTFIX sticker 15:04 ahahah 15:04 praise the scatter code 15:05 i was actually able to reproduce it in vanilla, i didn't want to tell the devteam about it if it couldn't happen 15:05 i'll let you know where to send the check for my awesome bug finding and reporting skillz 15:05 qt: also exploding boh potion flying out and hitting you? or can you not stow lit oil in a container 15:05 yeah it goes out if you put it in the container 15:05 * aosdict slides 1 zorkmid to K2 15:05 heh 15:06 i'm rich! 15:06 initial commit to fix it looks like 20eccf8 and i think there were some followups (1abf723 and ca97f4f look potentially related) 15:07 thanks 15:07 basically the solution was to put it onto the ground before doing final wrapup or something 15:08 i haven't actually tried to reproduce it after the fix but I assume pat tested it 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:27501 15:09 "You see here a statue of an elven noble" is it intended that it's not a lord or lady? 15:09 sort of 15:10 evilhack doesn't use the monster gender title code from vanilla right? 15:10 correct 15:10 these are pg statues, fig leaves over all the naughty bits 15:12 so what happens if you stone-to-flesh them? elf zombie? 15:12 sex is probably assigned randomly 15:12 right 15:13 there was a bug like that in vanilla too recently 15:13 much too recent, I still haven't fully recovered 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 244614 points, T:27700, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 15:16 jesus i was sure there were no wands left 15:16 sigh 15:16 oof :-( 15:16 !lastgame krm26 15:16 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1649777911.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 15:17 i wasted so many turns trying to make sure nobody was sitting on a wand of striking with charges 15:17 guess i shoulda been ultraparanoid and blown it up myself 15:18 i've racked up a lot of instant deaths this year 15:23 :( 15:24 :( 15:25 >:) 15:25 heh, i don't mind, finishing through quest & ludios is my favorite part of the game. i'm just sad i wasted the only early ludios i've seen in like 2 years 15:25 GUARANTEED LUDIOS k2 15:25 you can namecheck-kill me at the castle if you namecheck-auto-ludios me! 15:35 ludios being in first vault that spawns after dlvl 10 is a nice change that a few variants have 15:40 i don't care how it is done -- personally i'd add some obnoxious ritual that can be done in any vault if the ludios portal hasn't been generated, which requires an item from medusa's level or the castle's level 15:41 so if you wanted it and didn't get it you could take medusa's key and the castle's vault manifest and summon the portal in an empty vault or whatever 15:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3340a7a4ab40...b616c1c1e51d 15:49 [EvilHack] k21971 b616c1c - Fix: end of game crash if killed by a lit thrown/scattered potion of oil before the potion could explode. 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 1525 points, T:1324, killed by a mountain dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:03 "You pivot and roundhouse kick the cave spider!" huh 16:03 I am just a samurai 16:03 a samurai with martial arts :) 16:04 ah ok! 16:05 1% trained now :b 16:05 \o/ 16:06 master po is pleased 16:09 this is the second time now where I think my dog died out of sight and I didn't get a sad feeling 16:09 heartless monster :( 16:09 yeah heartless samurai type 16:10 is it possible they fell through a trapdoor instead? 16:10 or level teleporter 16:10 yeah can never be sure of course, but there were noises in the distance 16:10 probably some weird RNG 16:11 no result yet from magic whistle 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 1103 points, T:2004, killed by a wererat 16:17 fuzz time 16:17 if nothing crazy pops up, I may release 0.8.0 tonight 16:20 nearly 140 commits for 0.8.0 heh 16:21 more than half are fix commits 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 731 points, T:903, killed by a gnome lord 16:30 tonight already :O 16:31 I need to hurry up :-) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 771 points, T:1588, killed by a lizard 16:33 fuzzing with a barbarian tortle right now, at 6.3 mil turns 16:33 lookin good 16:33 i'll run a few more sessions tonight, make sure i didnt miss anything bad 16:35 tortle \o/ 16:35 :) 16:38 8 mil turns is enough 16:38 next run through 16:39 next up, convict illithid 16:42 giant convict with a giant striped shirt that only giant convicts know how to wear 16:44 b&c isnt enough deterrent for a giant 16:45 thats why they arent part of convict role 16:47 giant ball and giant chain 16:47 never mind ;-) 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5129 16:57 lol 17:04 8.2 mil turns and going (convict illithid) 17:04 that's enough there 17:04 woohoo 17:05 gotta collect my kid, gymnastic time. will do a couple more fuzz sessions when i get home, and barring nothing crazy, release time 17:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:36486 17:06 always that sense of anticipation........ 17:06 \o/ 17:06 and nearly always the utter disappointment :b 17:07 sorry, the sac gifts, not the release ;-) 17:10 lol 17:10 bed time for me, good luck with the release!! 17:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonbane", on T:5144 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1151 points, T:1691, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:35 !lastgame qt 17:35 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1649883800.evil.html 17:35 i did it, i took out the gnomish wizard with my kamikaze attack 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a piranha), on T:805 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1000 points, T:823, killed by a piranha 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2653 points, T:2979, killed by a fire ant 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1536 points, T:921, killed by a giant cockroach 18:35 ...guess i will hold off starting a new run until k2's release then 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:3092 18:40 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 18907 points, T:15973, killed by a leocrotta 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 19:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:4443 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:7092 19:33 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 38 points, T:323, killed by a falling rock 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 497 points, T:1643, killed by a giant spider 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand 20:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:03 let us fuzz, and bow our heads... 20:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9133 20:18 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:38 damn still 0.7.1 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 175586 points, T:40873, quit 20:42 nooo turn 40k quit? 20:42 !lastgame lgxia 20:42 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lgxia/evilhack/dumplog/1649576941.evil.html 20:44 that was weird, a totally ascendable tourist on DL20 with no obvious issues 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 7049 points, T:6598, killed by a baby red dragon 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:12383 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 513 points, T:1398, killed by a mountain dwarf 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Elf Mal Una), 384 points, T:745, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 176 points, T:1069, killed by a bat 21:20 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 21:22 so my mines end was the new goblin place i think? dont wanna spoil anything, but it was cool k2 21:23 i picked up a scare monster on a place it was obviously gauranteed that didnt prompt me to name it, which i wouldnt think would have anything to do with the map but 21:24 ill have to remember to go back there was a place i couldnt get to :) 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1544 points, T:2023, killed by a rothe 22:04 it wasnt 22:05 i havent released new version yet 22:06 i dont think it's gonna be tonight. there's a bug i found while fuzzing and it keeps reoccuring and I havent pinned it down yet 22:06 and i'm tired 22:06 ah, well it was a cool ending (y) 22:07 ssnufd, there is a mines' end known as the orc temple 22:07 bunch of altars 22:07 that was it 22:07 yeah, that's a really cool level 22:07 cool figurine at the end 22:08 i cant claim it, I grabbed it from dnethack i think 22:08 or slash'em 22:08 im glad theres so much variance for sure 22:08 i modified it some 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:6345 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 380 points, T:1919, caught himself in his own burning oil 22:21 !lastgame terrapin 22:21 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1649900728.evil.html 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 16917 points, T:7615, killed by a gargoyle 22:22 hah fixed that bug earlier today 22:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/b616c1c1e51d...8fecc86d06c8 22:31 [EvilHack] k21971 8fecc86 - Fix: accessing freed memory after charging causes a ring to explode. 23:06 god damn racoon tried to walk right in the house lmao 23:14 big ol guy. i remember once i was walking the trash down, and its got like those big black slanted tops, and soon as i opened that left side, two big hands grabbed on, that racoon pulled himself up and jumped out like "oh hey thanks man was waitin on someone to open that". looked like the same one, bet someone around here has been feeding it ive 23:14 never seen one come up to me like that. i had the backdoor open i was smoking, i said hey buddy and he looked at me for a minute then put his head down and started coming in. i said oh no we're not doing that and shut the glass door and he just came up to it and looked at me 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) stole 8740 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Asidonhopo's general store, on T:2882 23:19 thats not good ssnufd 23:19 it's probably rabid 23:19 i grew up in the country but im sure the person feeding it did not :) 23:19 i had to shoot a juvenille raccoon in my backyard a few years ago, acted same way. no fear 23:20 they are very terrifying to me. even that little experience i was telling my girl about it shes like s*** dont leave that screen open, which we sometimes do at night for fresh air 23:21 my dad killed a few growing up they are no good. im sure there were more humane ways etc. but they are very hard to get rid of 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] omghax (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:90, killed by a falling object 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] omghax (Sam Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:21, killed by a falling object 23:38 0.8.0 is on hdf-us 23:38 working on other 2 23:38 nice! 23:45 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 23:45 -!- mercury.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.7.1 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 23:45 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 23:45 !who 23:45 K2: [hdf-us] ssnufd [evil] Nightsorrow [evil] omghax [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:45 !whereis omghax 23:45 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [evil]: (Val Gia Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 23:45 [hdf-us] [evil] omghax (Val Gia Fem Law), 0 points, T:62, killed by a goblin 23:48 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 23:48 -!- tungsten.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.7.1 availble for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 23:48 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 23:48 [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilBot/compare/f3364057df72...0e8febde2edb 23:48 [EvilBot] k21971 0e8febd - Support for new version of EvilHack (0.8.0)