00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a stone staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4806 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 2173 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Gomel's liquor emporium, on T:7441 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 9739 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Weliki Oestjoeg's liquor emporium, on T:7784 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 2740 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Angmagssalik's general store, on T:8173 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a silver broadsword entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9475 01:04 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:62969 01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:11373 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 46365 points, T:14384, killed by a zruty 01:37 -!- vegetarianitalia has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 02:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:57 -!- cbus_ has joined #evilhack 04:57 -!- cbus has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by cbus_!~something@81-235-236-107-no92.tbcn.telia.com))] 04:57 -!- cbus_ has quit [Client Quit] 04:58 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 07:17 K2: i got on a square multiple lockable containers and when one is locked and asks to unlock it, it then asks "In what direction?" 07:18 when i try to access said container via #loot, a single chest is selected yet it still asks for a direction 07:19 what did you break 07:19 so steps to reproduce: get two chests. lock one of them manually. #loot and select the locked chest. 07:20 what happens when you pick the right direction? 07:20 it then asks "in which direction?" but the direction should always be ".", so it shouldnt ask because its in the context of #loot 07:20 it unlocks the chest 07:20 ok 07:20 so minor 07:20 yes but annoying 07:20 annoying = major 07:21 lemme try picking the wrong direction 07:21 its very annoying because its my stash i access frequently 07:21 its one extra key press! 07:21 lemme try picking the wrong direction 07:21 k 07:21 why do you have 2 chests there 07:22 one for valuable stuff i need and one for all the equipment i get from monsters 07:22 K2: "you see no door there", shame no crash 07:22 it might be a vanilla thing 07:23 mobileuser: i have literally 2.2k pieces of equipment from monsters due to my dlvl 1 shenanigans 07:23 i dont want to scroll through 1000000 pages just to get some holy water 07:24 replace that chest with cursed BoH :b 07:24 garbage dispenser 07:24 NO 07:25 i will keep all the stuff 07:25 what if i need it! 07:25 1000000 pages of stuff, good luck! 07:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19695 07:26 an uncursed sack containing 2189 items 07:26 an uncursed unlocked stone chest containing 352 items 07:26 i need to #tip the sack into the other chest i have but i dunno how 07:26 the stone chest contains the good stuff, including spare dragonhide armor 07:27 next version of evilhack will let you transfer between containers I think 07:27 UNPLAYABLE 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:70306 07:32 annnnd of course Kas disintegrated his sword on me 07:33 that answers the question as to whether i should try using the unskilled sword of kas on vecna or not 07:33 this kas has been a nightmare, chaining vampire mages summoned like 50 piles of evil crap on me 07:33 and they have been very efficient at destroying ever scare monster i had 07:36 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 07:36 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 40 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of cold 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 322 points, T:1957, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:71550 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:72016 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72016 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72017 08:14 yay krm26 08:14 had to rubber chicken him 08:14 nice 08:14 decision was made easier when kas disintegrated his sword on me 08:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:44 \o/ 08:52 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 09:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:08 first experience with pegasus: oh man this is gonna be good. hmm 120 hp lemme let you level up. wait is that a drag--ok well made it about 100 turns outside the ice realm not bad 09:08 gonna have to rebuy all this protection i lost, good thing i have about 40k. ok done. now let me train this divination up by casting light real quick standing next to this priest 09:12 really neat feature with the light blinding ill have to try to use it offensively sometime 09:16 need to pop some spiked barding on that pegasus, then they'll live an extra 100 turns before being turned to a statue 09:17 or disintegrated etc 09:18 haha i figured :) 09:22 heh 09:22 i got a pegasus all the way to astral once 09:23 they can grow up into greater pegasi 09:23 no not astral 09:23 what was it... 09:23 i was on the ascrun for sure 09:23 anyways, i kept it alive for a good long while 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:72728 09:26 jeez, this time 10 amulets of magical breathing and no magic spreading :-( 09:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0e3680ac566d...6fe8321bad4c 09:34 [EvilHack] k21971 6fe8321 - Fix: teleporting onto pits. 09:34 there ya go NetSysFire 09:34 \o/ 09:34 we have something like 8-9 fixes in 3.7 that were found here :) 09:57 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6fe8321bad4c...10af61954acd 09:57 [EvilHack] k21971 10af619 - Fix: remove unneeded bit from delobj(). 09:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:949 09:59 k2 is it intended for me to not be able to re-read spellbooks at 1-25%? 09:59 same rules as vanilla 10:00 I agree with aosdict that xnethack does this better 10:00 oh i see thanks, i had never run into that before 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 431 points, T:1265, killed by a rabid dog 10:01 yeah all the cool kids agree xnethack spellbooking is the best spellbooking 10:02 i dont like xnh spellbook system. maybe being able to re-read spellbooks whenever you want could be a thing, but the rest i dont really care for 10:03 with the volume of spellbooks in general, one evil tweak that might be good is reducing the maximum read-count by 1 before the books are done 10:03 Or, having each read/poly consume randomly 20-40% of the lifetime of the book, so you are never quite sure how many reads you have left 10:03 now << THAT would be evil 10:07 K2 yes I meant the re-reading part 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:62547 10:07 that just makes sense 10:08 I'm not even going to try to parse krm26' evil suggestions ;-) 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:62559 10:09 Right now, you have what, 4 reads/polys of a spellbook before it blanks. I think that is slightly too good, and too predictable. 10:10 Suggested instead of using up 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%, the progression should be rnd(20-35) or whatever numbers seem appropriate each read 10:10 if the # would break 100 the book blanks 10:10 an idea I had awhile ago - the number of turns you retain knowledge of a spell should be dependent on your int score 10:10 That's a cool idea 10:10 or int+wis 10:10 default is 20,000, that could be baseline for say, 13 int 10:11 other variants make you forget it more quickly if you don't use it. which I like. 10:11 make it so 10:11 nah, I don't like it 10:11 grunthack has a thing, spellbook is 10k turns instead of 20k, but the more you use it, the longer you remember it 10:11 yeah 10:11 so if you use a spell a lot, you essentially never forget it 10:12 that makes sense to me 10:12 i've always thought another cool arcane attack besides disenchant, deteriorate, etc. would be to make you forget a random spell (or take 5k turns off your memory of one, etc) 10:12 so a lich could take 5k turns off your magic missile memory 10:12 then you could have a forgetter as well as a disenchanter :-) 10:12 brain sucking can already make you forget spells 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7503 10:13 i dont think we should add another source :) 10:13 yeah but we defeat brain sucking with hats 10:13 and brain sucking is, i think, too awful 10:13 smaller dings to spells is more acceptable and recoverable and so doesn't require manic protection against 10:14 like, you obviously need absolute prevention against death magic and stoning, but we all have to put up with constant dings to our enchantments 10:16 welcome to evilhack 10:16 :P 10:16 the struggle is real 10:20 you also need a few more nasty weird horror-only random attacks to shake things up 10:21 i'd like an attack where they drag you down with them to the next level :-) 10:21 lol 10:30 hahah 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7462 points, T:3848, killed by a piranha 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of dragonhide fencing gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1561 10:39 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:63510 10:49 woop 10:54 K2: i killed some giant toitles 10:54 toitles 10:55 qt: are you up for some bug hunting? i dug out the entire level so theres no walls anymore and i can shift+direction key only sometimes, as in sometimes it just does not work and i move one tile 10:55 hmm 10:55 its usually in the dug out rooms (. instead of #) 10:56 i got one right meow 10:56 i can shift+left or right but now up or down 10:56 brb, going to interview a person for help desk position. please god dont let this be another shitshow 10:56 K2 my computah doesnt work pls fix 10:56 no debug, only fix 10:57 i hate doing interviews (from both sides). also, is the magic trap invis the only way to obtain permanent intrinsic invis now? 10:58 blessed invis doesnt do it, stalker corpse doesnt do it 10:58 NetSysFire: i'm spectating you, will you tell me when it happens again 10:58 pretty sure yeah 10:58 ssnufd: yeah I think so 10:58 qt: now watch 10:58 damn incubus 10:58 ok cool ty 10:59 wait i gotta deal with that one first 10:59 ssnufd: you can get crowned too 10:59 qt: did you see that? 10:59 yeah I did 10:59 krm26: that gives you invisibility, not just see invis? 10:59 see invis, not invis 11:00 NetSysFire: does it ever happen when you're not next to a pit? 11:00 qt: it apparently only happens where the wall would be 11:00 im almost positive i didnt have invis before this magic trap in gehenom 11:00 and i was crowned a while back, but i could def be wrong 11:00 magic traps can give you invis 11:00 magic traps can take see invis 11:00 qt: lets see i only got one room without 11:00 yeah no i was asking if it was the only way to obtain perm invis 11:00 qt: no its just when you dig out the walls of the room 11:00 oh sorry, assumed you were asking about see invis 11:01 invis should still be permanent from eating a stalker? 11:01 cause i noticed stalker corpse and blessed potion didnt last 11:01 no tried 3 times 11:01 krm26 magic trap can't take away see invis anymore 11:01 qt: so you cant shift+move to run along walls you destroyed of a room 11:01 that's interesting 11:01 huh, guess i don't know what i'm talking about :-) 11:01 cause i wondered if it was like chance based that it would last forever 11:02 btw, if you are invisible then conflict won't work 11:02 i didn't think even wand of invis timed out in evil 11:02 just gives temporary like the potion. i noticed i had sinvi from crowning when hitting the magic trap. i kinda didnt put it all together until later 11:02 I like temporary 11:02 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 11:02 i know mobileuser i feel like ive been leaning on conf a lot, and a lot of the things im worried about conflicting can sinvi anyway i think 11:02 seems like a deece dodge chance from invis too 11:03 conflict should still work on monsters that see invisible 11:03 qt: do you need anything else? 11:03 I often zap myself on plane of air with wand of invis 11:03 because you can't scare air elementals like in vanilla 11:04 NetSysFire: no I don't think so, you're right, it's when you dig out walls 11:04 \o/ i found team a! 11:04 i'm guessing it's because digging out a wall marks the spot as an empty doorway 11:04 so that you can use wizard lock to put a door back there later 11:04 and maybe when you enter a doorway you stop running? 11:04 something like that? 11:05 hmm 11:05 it happens in vanilla too 11:05 after i fought off the horde i will see 11:05 this frickin centaur i swear 11:05 why do monsters spawn on scrolls of scare monster?! 11:06 they are very comfortable 11:06 they are made of crumbly stuff! 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:63836 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 11757 points, T:11152, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 11:18 NetSysFire: yes, what i guessed before is the reason. you stop when you move into any kind of doorway, and digging out walls turns them into empty doorways so you can close them back up with magical locking 11:18 hmmm 11:18 i don't really know if that is something which should be changed, it's nice to stop running when you're crossing the threshold into a room 11:19 the case of someone digging out every room in a level and wanting to run on the empty walls isn't exactly the norm lol 11:22 hah 11:22 but maybe allow it if the next tile you would move in is a door anyways 11:22 er doorway 11:24 vanilla recently changed pausing travel if passing by a closed door, idk what you're talking about but that could maybe be relevant idk 11:26 it's a different thing, this is something in domove and the closed door thing is in lookaround 11:28 NetSysFire: I just tried that out and it feels weird to me, e.g. running up in this scenario you end up on spot X https://termbin.com/ydab9 11:29 hmm 11:32 if you're already surrounding the rooms with pits, why not just put the pits where the walls used to be instead of one square outside? that would sort of avoid the whole problem of stopping short when you think you should be able to run 11:32 but i don't really understand the deep purpose of the pits so maybe that's a stupid suggestion and incompatible with your goals 11:33 the deep purpose of the deep pits 11:34 thats very considerate of you but i just like to do stupid stuff. i could dig them out, too 11:34 but i cant shift+move on the pits either! 11:35 but currently you have 2 areas around the edge of the room where you can't run, and if they overlap you'll only have one area and it will be more clearly demarkated 11:36 demarcated 11:36 hmm, i see 11:37 the shadow cast by the boulder looks so cool 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:74437 11:37 when it reaches across the entire level like that 11:38 jesus yeenoghu basically 1-shotted himself on my black dsm 11:38 that can't be right 11:38 ssnufd: did you change alignments at some point? 11:38 oh nvm. I see you're a rogue 11:38 krm26: lucky shot 11:38 nice 11:39 what are the odds on that? 11:39 he must have had a rought night 11:39 lol 11:39 qt: do you think its reasonable to open an issue on the main nethack repo about monsters spawning on scrolls of scare monster? 11:40 I FINALLY GOT DRAGONHIDE GLOVES 11:40 time to #save and do something else 11:42 NetSysFire: sure, why not? or email the devteam. idk if it's a bug or not but either way i don't see how it'd hurt to ask the devteam about it 11:42 i dont want to annoy them as much as i do K2 /o\ 11:43 i actually doubt it is a bug, some monsters don't care about it, and there is specified behavior for what happens should a monster that cares end up on such a scroll, right? 11:43 i mean, that is no more weirder than monsters generating in line of sight 11:43 i wouldn't worry about it, they'll ignore your email if they don't consider it an issue 11:51 crap, i don't have a way of killing antimatter vortices do i 11:51 rebatela hobbit is a lot of fun :) 11:52 you're kicking ass! rooting for ya 11:52 * rebatela hasn't ascended since october :( 11:53 !!! :) 11:53 i'm good at leaving heady bones though 11:57 interview went ok... 11:57 so backscroll stuff - magic trap can give and take away both permanent invis and permanent see invis 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 15403 points, T:5917, killed by the Rat King 11:58 i'm not enjoying the eyes you left me tho, rebatela -- i prefer blindfold 11:58 IF you already have see invis and are crowned, magic trap wont take that away 11:58 haha! i was write, that's the one time i'm scheduled for this year 11:58 right/write/whatevs 11:58 lkfjdfglkj 11:58 krm26: yeah , like i said if i can't cast det monsters they can get in the way 11:58 kjgdfgheiuhe 11:59 hopefully the 4 wishes were ok though... 11:59 scenario for you all - I'll receive emails every so often about hardfought server stuff, whether it's to recover a game, or a question about a bug, or whatever 11:59 email i just got, the person used their work email, which included their work email signature. with their direct line phone number 12:00 i wanna call it and reply to their email that way :) 12:00 dont do it 12:00 Hello, this is Mr. Hardfought's secretary calling for Mr. ____ 12:00 spammity spam spam 12:01 instead the professional response to that is to sign up their phone number to cat facts 12:01 https://catfactstexts.com/ 12:01 'please hold for the president of the united states' 12:01 https://bobblehatsfordoggostexts.org 12:02 c'mon i wanna do it 12:03 convince me not to amateurhour 12:05 ok, i am so slow...i just now figured out i could sleep vorpal jabberwocks and ignore them instead of jumping through extreme hoops to kill them without ever being adjacent 12:05 \o/ 12:06 200 iq idea... can you tame them while they are slep? 12:06 figured it out AFTER killing one with nothing but a +0 aklys 12:06 calling their workplace could get them in trouble somehow maybe idk, which in the biz would be a Dick Move :tm: 12:06 ™ 12:06 yeah true 12:06 maybe their calls are logged 12:07 prob some person somewhere whose sole job is to screen calls 12:07 is it a huge company 12:07 kinda looks that way 12:07 instead of calling their direct line, fine a general company line, call that and tell them you need to speak to him/her about their nethack game 12:08 "Can you let Mr. __ know that the problem he experienced with the succubus is as intended?" 12:09 so your options are call his corporate number or email his corporate email? 12:10 or her, i guess you didn't say 12:10 I'd do the email one just because that's how they reached out and it's probably less likely to get them in trouble but idk 12:11 i think that's what i would do too even if it's no fun, i'd be afraid of getting them in hot water somehow. 12:11 i doubt they are that strict about things like that if the person is using their corporate email for hdf emails but i would still be nervous about it 12:12 yeah i'm not stating name or gender for obvious reasons 12:12 wait is this Jeff Bezos who emailed you? 12:12 just call him in that case, it'd be funny 12:12 * K2 can't say 12:13 in all honestly, if anyone famous plays on hardfought, I have no idea 12:13 u can it was an unsolicitated email u can share it with the world :)) 12:13 but i am famous K2 12:13 source: my ass 12:13 lol 12:13 and you know I play on hardfought 12:14 well yeah 12:14 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Meyer_(swimmer) i'm a famous south african swimmer who finished 17th and did not qualify for the final 12:15 i thought you were the guy that killed all those people in those movies 12:15 halloween 12:15 that was because i was so frustrated at my low finish 12:15 ah 12:15 i try not to let that part of my life define me 12:15 * K2 nods 12:15 i was in a bad place at the time 12:15 does infamous count? 12:15 hey we've all been there 12:15 krm26 yes 12:17 qt will be known for figuring out how tortles can hide in their shells and its not dumb 12:17 that is fame right there 12:18 like 'here, sign my firstborn' fame 12:18 i finished 17th in the tortle shell programming competition and did not qualify for the final 12:18 noooo 12:18 out of... 17? 12:19 i can't remember, it was hard to count the number of other people through the blur of tears 12:19 :( 12:19 fwiw I still believe in you 12:56 K2: try this out as a starting point https://termbin.com/pw4j 12:57 oh wait 12:59 https://termbin.com/8y17 13:00 oh cool! 13:00 * K2 reads 13:02 noooice 13:02 one thing that definitely would need to be added to that before it's viable is resetting u.uinshell when you polymorph 13:02 gonna try this out as asoon as i'm done stuffing my face 13:02 but it's a jumping off point 13:03 oh yeah, good call. what if you get zapped with poly whilst hiding in it 13:03 turn into a boulder? 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:76250 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:66011 13:33 testing your tortle shell code qt 13:33 this is great 13:34 shift+f, (a)pply and zapping will need to be suppressed somehow 13:35 and spellcasting 13:35 but yeah this is definitely a great starting point 13:35 shift f already doesn't work i thought? 13:36 oh wait 13:36 that is suppressed 13:36 but i was able to (a)pply an axe and swing it at 13:37 i see you got the AC adjustment to work. I had put a bit of code for that in the same spot in find_ac() but when i ran it, I was somehow stuck ain a loop 13:37 ooooh you can emerge from your shell whenever 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:3441 13:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3646 13:41 qt this is great 13:41 love it 13:41 cool 13:43 X001K689Z7 13:43 X001K689Z7 13:43 woops 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silver aklys of shock", on T:77115 13:46 that was a barcode scan hah 13:46 now we know K2's password 13:46 hah 13:46 funnily enough googling that only gives me a single result, and it's an amazon link to buy a barcode scanner 13:47 yup 13:47 we're testing out a new handheld remote barcode scanner, and i was scanning the barcode on the box it came in 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:4061 13:47 the range on this thing is ridiculous 13:48 brb 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:77657 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4872 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:78033 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17677 points, T:5920, killed by a giant centipede 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:66567 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:66569 14:19 NetSysFire, these issues you're submitting to the devteam, are you able to re-create them in vanilla nethack? 14:20 yes i try in 3.6.6 on my local device in wiz mode 14:20 since 3.7 isnt released and cant be bothered to compile 3.7 lol 14:21 I ask because you're seeing this in evilhack, which is 1) based off of 3.6.6 and 2) is a variant. that issue may not exist at all in 3.7. maybe it was already fixed, or maybe its a variant induced bug 14:21 if the devteam catches on that you're submitting bugs found in evilhack, that's not going to go over well 14:22 you really should test out these scenarious first on 3.7 before submitting a bug report 14:22 *scenarios 14:22 i did! in 3.6.6 in wiz mode 14:22 i shall go rummage the aur for a -git pkgbuild of nethack so i can also try 3.7 if you insist 14:23 there's literally thousands of bug fixes between 3.6.x and 3.7 - you really should check against 3.7 14:23 i'm not inisting anything, its just a strongly worded letter from the UN 14:23 *insisting 14:24 lol 14:24 :) 14:24 United Nethackers 14:24 i'm pretty confident monsters will spawn on ?oSM in 3.7 14:24 probably 14:24 but still 14:24 i know i know 14:24 <3 14:24 ok brb 14:25 i swear theres no PKGBUILD for nethack 3.7 14:25 what is a pkgbuild 14:26 i use arch (obligatory btw) and PKGBUILDs are how you package stuff 14:26 https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=nethack-git 14:27 you could always just clone the repo and compile it, it's pretty easy 14:27 I KNOW BUT PACKAGING 14:27 that thing looks like it might even work as-is if you switch out the URL for #branch=NetHack-3.7 14:27 also damn giants throwing boulders 14:27 but lets see 14:28 hah loool the PKGBUILD itself doesnt even work anymore 14:28 easy fix though 14:29 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7735 14:30 -!- Guest7735 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 14:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 1572956 points, T:67066, fell to his death, while helpless 14:36 oh 14:40 !lastgame ssnufd 14:40 uh oh 14:40 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/ssnufd/evilhack/dumplog/1648431184.evil.html 14:40 was that in vlad? 14:40 sed: can't read sys/unix/hints/linux: No such file or directory 14:40 ouch, you walked off into space 14:40 NetSysFire: it's called sys/unix/hints/linux.370 or something now I think 14:40 yeah i *just* saw that 14:40 like one second ago 14:40 so sorry ssnufd 14:41 bit distracted back and forth. lucky to get that far glad i got to see a lot of the content 14:42 i missed it, did you get to off vecna? 14:42 no i wish i didn't find/know where 14:42 do you want to know? 14:42 yes 14:42 first level in gehennom there is a portal 14:43 gotta find it, like finding your quest portal 14:43 ah ok, and like ice queen 14:43 yup 14:43 sweet 14:43 vecna's a lot of fun, and lets you genocide liches and alhoons 14:43 next major version he'll also have a drop (he technically does right now but i never see it :-) 14:44 lol you mean the 50% eye? 14:44 yup 14:44 i see you were wearing wished-for dragonhide t-shirt? you can also wish for it with a property -- i like the anti-vlad property, decay (drain resistance) 14:45 ok so they told me that afterwards, and holy lord did i wish i had that after fighting vlad 14:46 and orcus to and extent i started to see how that drain stuff was going to wither you away end game 14:46 if you're curious as to what's coming next (updated frequently) - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/doc/evilhack-changelog.md#version-080 14:46 oh nice 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 87 points, T:313, killed by a goblin 14:47 yeah orcus is rough 14:48 if you can avoid melee with him, that's ideal 14:48 OR poly into a form that's immune to death magic 14:48 qt: i also have to do make fetch-lua it appears 14:49 yeah 14:49 but it compiled 14:49 cool 14:50 woop 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 44 points, T:167, killed by a fox 14:52 although you can toe-to-toe orcus, and vlad, if you are low on alchemy reagents you may want to boulder fort them to preserve the little health you have 14:54 oh thatas a good idea 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5939 points, T:4610, killed by an ice vortex, while praying 14:55 oilskin hat for alhoons, tshirt of decay for vampires. 14:55 blessed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay, blessed greased +3 fireproof oilskin cloth elven helm :-) 14:55 ah so thats why i saw so many oilskin hat wishes 14:56 those two items and the rest of your body can be free and naked! 14:56 the hat makes alhoons much less terrible. 14:56 they 14:56 they're not even on my genocide list if I have one. 14:56 I feel like you discovered this already 14:57 what do you like to geno? i had a couple scrolls never used 14:57 er i cursed some i think 14:57 I actually have a file ~/Documents/genocide :) I hope the NSA never looks 14:58 My geno targets depend on where I am in the game when I find the scroll. Also, I'm currently a giant so I don't worry about vortexes since they can't engulf me. 14:58 i discovered oilskin cloaks were because of the bag 1 mc +2 from cloak 14:59 my top targets are locusts, gray dragons, and disenchanters. Not that they're difficult, but they're nuisances. 14:59 but i appreciate it :) 15:01 I like black dragons because they disintegrate baddies if I line them up. I just take care not to attack them with a weapon. 15:02 so i got the green dragon scale mail early and it was really neat to see things dying to the poison 15:02 it is awesome 15:03 I think I had an early orange DSM and was able to outrun a leocrotta thanks to the passive defense. Cool how that works 15:03 i was hoping it was going to do that, then i was seeing the feels sick combat messages. is there merit to wearing like black and things later? kinda sounds fun anywa 15:04 black will disintegrate enemies. Gray will cancel them. Use with caution. 15:04 gold is nice. Gives a big light field 15:04 its really cool to have lots of options for reflection/mr and things and be able to switch mails 15:05 black also gives drain res iirc 15:05 I'm looking forward to the new patch to see how it changes dragon scales. Looking forward to some new strategies. 15:10 i like to genocide gray dsm if i'm not a spellcaster, i hate having to reenchant stuff...i'm so lazy 15:11 if i have a blessed scroll I do R, not because i care that much about disenchanters, but just because it is the perfect blessed scroll usage 15:11 wizard wished for blessed fixed greased studded armor of decay named wtf this works now?? (3rd wish, on T:1 on 20220331 at 191108 hrs) 15:11 fixed the wish tracker 15:11 arch-lich and master lich are the things i really like to genocide because of summon nasties/teleport/deteriorate/cancel combo 15:11 previously it was cutting off after the object 15:11 the wish tracker was broken? ah 15:12 not broken per se, just not showing everything 15:12 now we can capture obj properties and all of the silly things like how hothraxxa makes wishes 15:12 he's a poet 15:12 blessed +7 hawaiian shirt with a Hothraxxa in grass skirt motif. 15:13 lol 15:13 heh 15:16 has a special property equivalent to a scroll of Scare Monster (sorry H!) 15:16 unique item 15:18 Mmmmm Tiamat 15:19 pray for scales 15:19 yeah that isn't how my rng works 15:19 i've seen them once, i have another 20 tiamats before i get another chance 15:19 i'm just always thrilled when none of my demons are graz'z'z'z'z't 15:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/10af61954acd...57c488a4c53b 15:21 [EvilHack] k21971 57c488a - Fix: wishtracker not capturing every detail of the wish. 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, on T:81254 15:22 and as i said, no drop 15:22 hah 15:22 the gods of 33% chance hate you 15:23 i haven't been counting reliably, but i *think* i'm 1 for 6, which isn't that far off norm 15:23 as opposed to my 1 for...10? 12? with vecna 15:23 those days are quickly coming to an end 15:25 i am so paranoid about drawbridges now -- all it takes is one death to some shmuck with a wand of striking 15:25 ah wishtracker fix :-) 15:25 krm26 that's not paranoid, that's wisdom 15:25 blow up all drawbridges 15:26 well, except VotD 15:26 "what are the chances?" 100% baby 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a wormwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2920 15:35 I've killed vecna zillions of times and never got a drop. 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3237 15:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3354 15:36 zillions? you've got even worse luck than me 15:37 might be 2 zillion. I lost count after a gajillion. 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:82177 15:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 15:47 I take my gloves off and beat them to death 15:48 just because I can 15:49 :) 15:49 I guess that works 15:49 just being lazy 15:50 it's satisfying because they destroyed my dragonbane one time :b 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4937 15:52 oh? so dragonbane is black dragon immune, but not vortex immune? good to know 15:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5556 16:06 krm26 yes, that was what tripped me up 16:06 had to rearrange my asc gear in a hurry 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22336 points, T:7855, quit 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:16249 16:34 qt I've added a couple other cases to hiding in your shell - can't engrave, can't use a polearm, can't cast a spell 16:34 there's a couple more as well I havent tested yet, but adding a 2 liner to freehand() covered a few things 16:35 back in a bit 16:40 Can you use a tooled horn while enshelled? 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) genocided locusts, on T:171575 16:53 K2: i have -33 AC yet their sting is so damn precise. why? 17:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class o), on T:1 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 17:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:18777 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 45141 points, T:19147, killed by a gold dragon 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:2928 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1414 points, T:1125, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:39 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:41 rawr 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a magical ornamental cope entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:779 18:45 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:1073 18:47 qt here's some bits I added to your tortle hide in shell code - https://termbin.com/d120 18:49 so I mentioned can't engrave, can't use a polearm, can't cast a spell... adding that bit to freehand() also covers using a towel 18:49 and a stethoscope 18:50 and looting 18:51 and anything covered by u_handsy() 18:52 lol didnt know that was a thing (handsy) 19:02 just covered sacrifice 19:04 and using a carried container 19:04 ^ u_handsy bit 19:05 u_handsy also covers using a saddle or barding 19:06 need to handle mounting a steed hah 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3819 19:12 and that's now covered as well 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Mal Law) had a pair of bone boots called Kicking entrusted to him by Anu, on T:68211 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a curved sword entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4125 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 123 points, T:276, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/57c488a4c53b...d99aa871d3a5 19:33 [EvilHack] k21971 d99aa87 - Tortle ability to hide in its shell. 19:33 ^ qt 19:34 what happens if you're already mounted and you go into your shell 19:35 can tortles ride? or do they suffer giant penalties? 19:35 they aren't super-humanoid, not a lot of convenient crotch for sticking in a saddle 19:36 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/d99aa871d3a5...1cf67acc95d2 19:36 [EvilHack] k21971 1cf67ac - Tortle ability to hide in its shell. 19:36 ^ force push, added some stuff to commit notes 19:37 qt I didn't lokk at already being mounted yet. I'm not sure if a tortle should even be able to ride anything given their body shape 19:37 *look 19:39 Yeah, at minimum you'd need something much more capable of load bearing 19:39 if you give them any steeds at all 19:45 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3944 19:45 -!- Guest3944 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a copper knife entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4398 20:59 -!- ssnufd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:03 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 21:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] sudgy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2960 points, T:3413, burned by a fireball 22:01 dogs were soooo caked in mud 22:01 late night bath time 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:13108 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class m), on T:15891 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Magician, on T:16276 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:18141