00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 18166 points, T:7864, killed by an energy vortex 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:26968 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to her by Anu, on T:28252 03:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) destroyed karibou the elf zombie, and former Thaumaturge, on T:30324 04:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:51 [hdf-au] [evil] joes (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Leoo's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4165 07:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:03 [hdf-au] [evil] joes (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3055 points, T:4353, killed by an invisible gnome lady 07:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver aklys of shock", on T:46855 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:46994 07:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:47890 07:35 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:54 this poly trap hates me dog -- nothing but newts and coyotes and spiders 07:55 morning 07:55 good morning 07:57 well crap, shark with adjacent water squares -- the end of the polymorph chain 07:57 having a bad start. no shop no altar, but i want those bones lol 07:57 got catacombs which i like, but not even bother since i can't price id spellbooks 07:57 hopefully there's a general store and an altar right after the big room ! 07:58 bones uber alles 08:03 dammit. i have to figure out what object detection is for soko 08:03 where's a nymph when you need them 08:03 or crystal ball i guess 08:03 careful, you'll wish yourself into Aphrodite's level 08:03 nymphs spawn with moderate frequency in sokoban too 08:04 find a scroll of magic detection and id all those spellbooks in one turn 08:04 I never bother with any price id 08:05 there are no shops 08:05 that's the whole problem 08:05 i'll figure it out 08:06 but yeah i could throw my scrolls into the food shop and buy them back but those aren't exactly common 08:06 and then the gnome charges me $1000 to buy it back 08:07 crystal ball is the best for soko actually. just search for whatever shape prize ya want 08:07 oh i misread. yeah magic detection is great for spellbooks 08:08 how much are those scrolls now ?I know you got the price changed krm26 08:08 what would rock is if the first spbk i read is identify ;) 08:10 mobileuser: I've only read those scrolls while searching for something on the level. But they id your inventory? 08:10 like a full id? 08:12 when blessed: anything in your inventory, on the level and in magical containers like your bag of holding 08:12 magic items that is 08:13 charges not included, but at least you'll know what's waht 08:13 * what 08:19 that's wild 08:20 I had NO idea 08:21 weren't they $100 at one point? Then he made the price higher but it was unique and easy to price id, so he changed it to ........ ? 08:21 are they 300? 08:23 damn i've found 6 spellbooks without the catacombs. this would be a great start with a shop an altar 08:26 i want the magic whistle and FA ring from those bones more than i want the lamp. lamp i'm gonna have to bless 08:28 Ah I see you are playing on EU, that version is much harder than US 08:29 :b 08:30 hehe yeah i wanted the challenge 08:33 i have a game going on US where i'm kinda stuck 08:34 so sometimes i take a long enough break that i feel like starting over 08:37 maybe i WILL play my US server game lol. thanks for reminding me 08:38 oh i'm a giant on US server that's right 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 61 points, T:421, killed by a burning scroll 08:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 23954 points, T:11473, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:56 nooooooooooooooooooo 09:10 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:18 :/ 09:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:42 is that about rebatela or about my entrance 09:42 it's me isn't it 09:44 yeah if it was about rebatela it would have been more of a D: 09:57 Alright question 09:58 Does any variant other than EvilHack do anything significant with Izchak? 09:58 Also hi all 09:58 good morning 09:59 I don't know the answer to your question 09:59 No problem 09:59 aosdict, you happen to know? 09:59 xnh guarantees he's alive in orcish town 09:59 that's not particularly significant imo 10:00 It is to me 10:00 Also blessed magic detection is so good 10:02 I am not knowledgeable about other variants besides evilhack 10:03 I don't think any other variant does something so dramatic as he turns into an archangel when killed 10:03 Doesn't have to be that 10:20 ahhh i remember why i've been playing on european server 10:20 my giant is stuck because of where the stairs generated on the quest 10:20 i guess i can teleport though (if i had the scrolls) 10:20 look at my game this is BS lol 10:21 hmm 10:21 Umbire - grunthack 10:22 just suck in your gut rebatela 10:22 and grease yourself up 10:22 K2: Oh? 10:22 i bet you can squeeze through 10:22 i can probably dig down right here and then come back up the stairs but i can't get any of the loot on the level 10:22 also, look up izchak on the wiki 10:22 oh no wait 10:22 I already did 10:22 then i'll be stuck on the other side 10:22 That's why I'm asking 10:22 do you have cursed gain level? 10:22 rebatela, which quest and what floor? 10:22 i have one regular teleport one cursed and one cursed gain level 10:23 so yeah I can teleport here. go down, kill kaen and then levelport up when i come back 10:23 the idea for izchak in evilhack i got from grunthack 10:23 so if you dig down you could clear the level from below, and then use cursed gain level to escape 10:23 changed it a bit 10:23 or yeah levelport 10:23 right 10:23 it's the monk quest umbire 10:23 home 3 10:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26 your master plan seems to be working so far 10:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:31 me? yeah i don't know if i have the resources to kill him though. I enchanted some daggers, but monk suck at dagger. i have an aklys too. might have to sleep and melee, but my AC sucks if he wakes up i think i'm toast 10:32 also no free action 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:29791 10:35 phew. 29 hp lol 10:35 (he woke up) 10:36 👏 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29863 10:40 yay 10:42 rebatela: did you manage to get out of there? 10:43 yes :) cursed gain level 10:43 thanks 10:44 i'm sure i'll need it as an escape item and not have it, but what else could i do? 10:48 the thing that sucks is that is that the quest is my only coaligned altar (i converted it). So i'm gonna have to kill quest leader and do a lot of sacrificing because he's gonna ask for the eyes 10:49 if I could go back I would have killed the minetown priest and converted it first so then i'd have that altar 10:50 i wonder if my alignment is good enough so that i can kill the chaotic priest and convert that altar without converting myself? normally i would go to my own altar and sacrifice in between 10:50 but the quest leader is there.. hmmmm 10:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:52 have you checked your conduct yet? 10:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 10:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:52 yeah 10:53 and? 10:53 like, have i abused my alignment? oh yes 10:53 I was just wondering, because you haven't had the chance yet to murder priests ;-) 10:53 oh that was the EU game 10:54 getting confused 10:54 well i should have killed this minetown guy first and then converted the altar so i'd have one where the quest leader isn't 10:54 but he's not that tough 10:54 if i killed kaen i should be able to kill him 10:54 but i usually do it much later 10:54 plus it takes a lot of sacrificies to mollify after that! 10:54 can still be risky without free action I think 10:54 have you done it? 10:55 no, I usually don't kill priests 10:55 or I let a pet do it 10:55 no i'm mean the quest leader so you can keep the artifact if he wants it 10:56 it really upsets your god. way more than killing a priest 10:56 oh yeah I have killed quest leaders before 10:56 and then do you just not pray after? or do you get back in good with your god? 10:56 lots of sacs to mollify the god 10:56 it takes a while and then they're still mad and you have to sacrifice more to pray 10:56 yeah exactly 10:58 alright, i guess i have to stop farting around and try to kill these alhoons and liches and crap again so i can die to vecna...bleargh, i don't get healers 10:58 I suppose I can give him the eyes back for a bit and then kill him 10:58 but then why did i do the quest? lol 10:58 why not avoid him? 10:59 go there when you are ready to do the asc run 10:59 oh i know what to do 10:59 just for the altar? 10:59 i will boulder fort the minetown priest... convert the altar 10:59 then kill him 10:59 :-) 11:01 an archon just showed up to murder me with sunsword! all right, now i'm gonna fk up some undead 11:01 ugh this is one of those 5x3's i don't think he's gonna step far enough away 11:01 * rebatela sighs 11:03 good luck guys, I'm going afk for a while 11:03 later 11:03 i'm gonna watch your game krm26 11:04 might not be that exciting, complicated by the fact i just had my eyes dilated so i'm practically blind 11:04 here goes nothing 11:06 doing a lot of farlooking cuz i can read the text a lot easier than see the colored letters :-) 11:08 K2: Nothing on the wiki that alludes to what Grunt does with Izchak 11:08 which is a general "thing what needs fixing" outside of info on him specifically 11:09 key words being "on the wiki" 11:09 play grunt > attack izchak 11:09 maybe its best that players just find out the hard way 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 413 points, T:2936, killed by a jumping spider 11:10 agreed 11:10 it's fun in evil tbh 11:10 why would anyone want to kill izchak in the first place, except incidentally? 11:10 although you could say that about any part of the spoiler 11:10 gold 11:11 i mean, that's why i killed the other shopkeepers 11:11 a lot of players have no idea about Izchak's history 11:11 but it's considered bad form to kill izchak 11:11 he's just another shopkeeper 11:11 Yes! freak random sunsword got a freak random one-shot on the alhoon 11:11 hah krm26 11:12 man i sunsword can one-shot vecna i might have a chance :-) 11:12 you cant one-shot vecna with sunsword, but it can gravely wound him 11:13 i'll have to see how it fares vs the staff 11:13 bet it is much better even at basic vs expert 11:15 k2, can you explain archlich/scare monster behavior to me? usually if i'm on the stairs on a scare monster they'll spend a round or two and then blip away to heal, or mostly heal -- but everyone once in a while one just stands there for 10 rounds and lets me whack him. purely random? 11:17 Sunsword can do that to all undead lmao 11:17 those scrolls don't work in gehennom right? It's just that you're in a different branch? 11:18 Also iirc don't covetous monsters consistently pick an up or down stair? 11:18 yeah, i'm talking about in vecna's branch 11:20 prob just rando behavior. i dont really have a precise explanation 11:29 argh so stupid, i accidentally greased my aklys 11:29 Dip it in some water to wash it off? 11:30 or is there none conveniently nearby 11:30 i can dip it in lava :-) 11:30 That seems unnecessary 11:30 but fun 11:32 hmm...now for the elder minotaur test 11:33 nice, they have so many attacks that my black dsm is my best weapon 11:33 honestly you """should""" be playing healers more limited caster-style 11:34 though I also think they have more melee options than wizards in Evil 11:35 i'm using shuriken, aklys, sunsword, vorpal blade, frost brand, and the staff as pretty much pure melee 11:35 magic missile eats through my energy too fast 11:35 only if you're positively spamming it 11:35 and i can't keep myself in pets, i've been trying really hard 11:35 there is also that I suppose 11:36 i mean, if i don't have to cast magic missile a bunch, i'll be using my ranged weapons instead 11:36 maybe i should wish for the eye for spell regen 11:38 i thiiiiink i'm gonna chicken out with just vecna left, and go enchant this unexpected sunsword before i pull him 11:39 i have a feeling that trying to use the staff on him is going to take me 200-300 rounds 11:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 11:46 hmm..i wonder if 45 +5 shuriken are enough to kill vecna if i boulder fort him? 12:07 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1214 points, T:1831, zombified by a hobbit zombie 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:50126 12:29 +7 Sunsword for the win! Thanks, random Archon who spawned on my way to Vecna 12:29 \o/ 12:29 hey k2, shouldn't invoking the staff of aesc cure withering? 12:29 i bet it would have if withering existed when it was created 12:30 not a bad idea 12:30 aosdict, does the staff do this in xnh? 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:50175 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:50176 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:50176 12:37 it doesn't 12:40 unplayable 12:53 k2: you ever think of including (date-of-last-update) after each variant version in the hardfought menu? 12:54 the motd is nice but it would also be nice to have that info be persistent 12:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:57 there's no room 12:57 it all has to fit in 80x24 typical terminal window 12:58 its pretty full as-is 12:59 YY-MM? 12:59 ah well, constrained space is constrained space 13:00 https://0x0.st/oqrp.png 13:00 plus you can see when it was last updated in game 13:00 check version 13:00 yeah i don't think there's room 13:01 especially if the MOTD is ever more than 2 lines long 13:02 you might have room if the MOTD was completely replaced with individual dates but that'd be a shame 13:02 there's space reserved for three lines of MOTD 13:02 k2 my live (albeit repetitive) novelty rap concert just started up again 13:02 rarely use more than 2 though 13:02 party time 13:02 omg 13:02 did you ever counter rap? 13:03 no i can't compete with that level of skill 13:03 hah 13:03 fall back on an already existing rap 13:03 'Jam On It' by Nucleus 13:04 i hope I don't have any work calls because it's going to be very audible lol 13:05 does your roommate not respect your need for quiet? 13:06 not really. i think they are so self-absorbed it doesn't really cross their mind 13:08 hmm 13:08 so multiple roommates 13:08 it's more typically guitar playing and loud phone calls about personal problems in intricate detail all day, which is annoying but not as bad as this novelty rap kick 13:08 it's not that big a deal but the novelty rap angle is just so silly i have to talk to someone about it 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5167 13:11 you livestreaming it somewhere? 13:11 YES. another altar in the dungeon! solves my problem i do believe 13:11 on DL 26 taboot... 13:12 i am tempted to record and share a snippet but I don't want to violate his privacy like that, i'd be upset if someone did that to me 13:12 hahah yeah qt livestream that shit so we can feel your pain 13:12 tell 'em they have an audience 13:12 maybe this is how they get their recording contract! 13:13 what you need to do is run a screenreader when you are playing nethack and customize each character to be read as a different word, so that as you play your computer constantly spits out its own pseudo-rap to compete 13:15 So Yeenoghu's dictionary entry predates the existence of gaze attacks (I think) but adds color text that specifically links his confusion attack to his gaze 13:16 Seems like either the dictionary should be slightly altered or his 2d8 weapon confuse attack should become a gaze confuse attack 13:16 maybe? 13:16 just a little weird inconsistency 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14427 points, T:6298, killed by a gnomish watchman 13:24 [hdf-au] [evil] joes (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1906 points, T:3263, killed by a gold golem, while dragging an iron ball 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:34509 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:34596 13:44 just found grayswandir on the ground on medusa level 13:44 amazeballs! 13:44 evilhack is suspiciously generous today 13:44 of course i don't get these weapons after i've broken weaponless 13:45 so, if i wield it and get crowned will it unlock saber? 13:45 it's confusing whether it unlocks it or not for monk imo 13:45 i'm dangerously close to getting crowned 13:45 yeah i think maybe vorpal blade has to be created or something? 13:45 cuz it will try to give me the restore book i think in evil 13:45 crowning unlocks a weapon skill if you're wielding an unusable weapon? i had no idea! 13:46 I always have to read the wiki page like 5 times to check 13:46 for monk and wiz 13:46 in vanilla i've unlocked saber that way krm26 13:46 i'm 100% sure i've done it, but there are conditions 13:46 You have to have your crowning gift already 13:46 see this: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Crowning#Crowning_gift 13:46 yeah that's it 13:46 (or it already has to exist, in the case of artis) 13:46 but they don't mind giving you restore ability twice 13:46 monk is slightly different Umbire 13:47 wording is confusing, if not wielding arti and not carrying restore ability 13:47 equal important, is it still useful at unskilled if i enchant it? can i hit ? 13:47 as monk in evilhack? I think K2 added extra monk penalties 13:47 so I wouldn't count on it 13:48 would have to check though 13:48 because I can't remember if it was just the armour one that was cranked way up 13:48 yeah the armor one definitely is, but i feel like i've used weapons. It's been a long time though 13:48 i don't want to try just yet because i still have the conduct going 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51422 13:56 so maybe if i'm wielding it AND carrying the spellbook it will do it? i haven't found the spellbook yet 13:57 Oh yeah, need to get stone to flesh for my rogue at some point 13:57 both because stoning in gehennom and because I have a dum pegasus to unkill 14:05 no matter what that pegasus will find a way to kill itself 14:10 I mean it's on me, I was actively avoiding close range mounted combat with c for a good while previously 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:51768 14:13 ah I see krm26's healer killed Vecna \o/ 14:16 yup, my surprise bonus sunsword took care of him without a lot of difficulty 14:16 how was yeenoghu? 14:16 i was really afraid of him, so i boulder-forted and used wands of lightning on him 14:16 Hi mobile 14:16 i am highly fear-motivated 14:17 :) 14:17 but i just went toe-to-toe with geryon with no special prep and he was cake 14:17 hey, if i'm engulfed by a sea dragon over land surrounded by water and he wanders around while i'm fighting his guys, he definitely has a chance of dunking me when i kill him, right? 14:17 Hey Umbire 14:18 rendering a strategy of taking off flying for magical breathing pretty self-destructive i assume? 14:18 I would be inclined to think so 14:18 brave sir robin is going to run away then 14:18 In my case I have seaDSM so I don't exactly fear it 14:18 (and slow dig to boot) 14:19 slow dig is the cool new slang for a pick-axe 14:19 i love seadsm, ascended with it my last run 14:19 but i'm afeared of my slow damage output right now so wearing black dsm 14:20 first game in a while i haven't had demonbane and i'm worried about chaining in bad bad demons 14:21 my One Big Evilhack Fear these days is somehow Graz'zt showing up when I'm not prepared 14:21 like with that crazy bones i got 14:24 the life-draining staff is no exactly low damage? 14:24 * not 14:24 it isn't awesome against things that can't be life-drained 14:25 exactly 14:25 sea dragon is fine, they just have a lot of HP 14:25 oh I misread 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (fire vortices), on T:3820 14:27 some game i'm going to summon a mammothstorm right after doing vecna and see if it can carry me all the way to the vibrating square 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4752 15:02 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7b6b791ac499...9a4946f6b636 15:02 [EvilHack] k21971 4972f53 - Clean up some code formatting in mcastu.c 15:02 [EvilHack] k21971 9a4946f - Invoking the Staff of Aesculapius cures withering. 15:03 does extrinsic withering exist? 15:04 no 15:04 but it could 15:04 imagine finding 'gloves of withering' 15:04 seems like they would kill you pretty damn quick 15:04 it could yeah 15:05 making an object like that, kind of a 'fuck you' item 15:05 if you couldnt take them off quickly, you're in a lot of trouble 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6777 15:20 i think i know what I want to do with dtsund armor 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:7151 15:21 because I dont want to roll back the coolness factor of giants being able to wear chromatic dragon scales 15:21 what do you want to do 15:21 so, dragon scales will drop, dragin scale mail goes away, just like dtsund code has it 15:21 *dragon 15:22 but instead of wearing dragon scales as a cloak, they will still be worn as body armor 15:22 K2 you already have extrinic fumbling so withering would also be sort of cool 15:22 more evil curses 15:22 to merge it with regular armor, you simply hold it in open inventory (wield it) 15:23 but they only get generated this way, no adding of negative enchantments by liches 15:23 whilst reading that scroll of enchant armor 15:24 this does 2 things - 1) doesnt roll back giants being able to wear chromatic dragon scale and 2) doesnt make the regular dtsund method too OP 15:24 K2 did you play shattered pixel dungeon yet? it has a variety of nice curses 15:24 and also nice positive enchantments 15:24 having dragon scaled armor plus wearing a second set of dragon scales as a cloak, that's a bit too OP imo 15:24 NetSysFire no i havent 15:24 it really doesn't feel too OP to me, since you can't enchant the cloak 15:24 what did I miss here 15:25 OR 15:25 it would probably be too OP if the cloak conveyed all the additional side effects 15:25 switch it so giants can wear chromatic dragon scales in the cloak slot instead of body slot 15:25 ooooooh i have a much more evil idea 15:26 NetSysFire: stop these wicked machinations 15:26 are you going to take away the main reason I like dtsund for evilhack? 15:26 i'm not sure i understood your approach k2 -- you wear normal armor and wield dragon scales to attach them, is that what you said? 15:26 couldn't you attach dragon scales to dragon scales then? 15:27 lol 15:27 imagine e.g gloves of oil, randomly applying grease to inconvenient items. like making a tin slip from your fingers. or rings. or your weapons. means you might randomly lose stuff you touch 15:27 gray dragon-scaled silver dragon scales 15:27 you could reserve the big ac bonus for scales applied to scales (treating the base scales as just-for-the-ac) 15:27 mobileuser your main reason that you like dtsund dragon armor is the cloak aspect? 15:27 absolutely 15:28 and krm26 yeah that's what I meant 15:28 FREEDOM 15:28 i'm still debating 15:28 i cant deny mobileuser's love 15:28 it opens up more fun strats 15:28 FUN 15:28 yeah 15:29 if you wear dragon scales as a cloak, you're also giving up things like potentional mc3 or displacement 15:29 give/take 15:29 i like the idea of having the two dsm properties be split -- 1 when worn as cloak, 1 when worn as body armor; enchant together to get both 15:29 yup 15:29 which would let you get cloak-bonus-from-yellow added to armor-bonus-from-black, etc 15:29 aosdict has it so when the scales are worn as a cloak, you only get the primary intrinsics 15:29 * rebatela yawns 15:29 i would do the same 15:29 more good stuff for people who wear armor 15:30 even BETTER, each time scales is generated it has a 50% chance of getting either property 15:30 non-giant monks profit too 15:30 gotta find the right ones! 15:30 yeah i honestly haven't been following along 15:30 i know i can't wear chromatic scales still :( 15:30 rebatela, giant samurai would benefit 15:30 this gray scales doesn't have mr, just cancellation -- doh, so does the 2nd one :-) 15:30 if they got chromatic dragon scale drop 15:31 yeah. i've gotten them to drop twice (but playing monk lol) 15:31 the chromatic scales suck because they don't give you magical breathing :-( 15:31