00:12 got it 00:12 finally lol 00:40 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:45 -!- epineephrine has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±26] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/cacc019c9c78...f697fd9bca00 01:09 [EvilHack] k21971 f697fd9 - The Hand of Vecna. 02:31 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:23 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 03:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 03:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 841 points, T:3180, killed by a mountain dwarf 03:55 K2, how does a person start making commits in the repo? Is there some list of 04:47 [hdf-au] [evil] joes (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger named +0 on an altar, on T:3093 06:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16 Vecna commit: "Not entirely sure that innate giant race hungerless regeneration was working either. They do now though." 06:17 K2 I would guess it was not working ;-) 06:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1816 points, T:3145, killed by a giant mimic 07:18 lacca[m] you'd submit a PR 07:19 and if approved, it's then part of the repo 07:20 mobileuser hah 07:20 Thanks! I thought i deleted the message, lol 07:20 Is there some list of needed changes? 07:20 the only needed change is having shambling horrors gain a new random ability for every one that is killed 07:20 it is known 07:20 See the topic, there is an etherpad 07:20 lol 07:21 lacca[m] - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack - but this list is more ideas now vs bugs 07:21 thanks! 07:21 mobileuser the hungerless regen bug would have been present ever since giants were a playable race 07:21 so pretty much since the beginning 07:22 oopsies 07:22 yeah, I've said a couple of times that I felt giants were getting hungry more quickly 07:23 LIES 07:23 :P 07:23 PARANOIA 07:23 ... DIRGE 07:23 \o/ 07:23 \o/ 07:24 i saw opticsugar ascended 07:24 fixing that game was a bit involved 07:24 we've been emailing back n forth, he's so happy right now 07:27 ah the nh4 game 07:28 first ascension, happy ending 07:43 wewp 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:33743 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33757 07:49 nice work krm26, Staff of Aesculapius unlocked 07:53 never run a healer before. now i've gotta give up frost brand for the staff :-( do NOT like using 2h weapons 07:54 trying to decide if i should stop my pet polymorph lottery at titanothere or keep on going 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:33969 08:00 can helm of speed be wished for bone or wood or stone for casting? or is the best you can do mithril? 08:01 I think helm of speed can be bone.. 08:02 yeah, bone or wood should be possible 08:03 lol I had a glass helm 08:03 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1643185402.evil.html 08:05 ah that was one of the games where I was scammed out of dragonbane 08:07 I used Magicbane a lot against drain-resistant monsters 08:09 at least with magicbane you don't have to worry about suddenly wielding a cursed 2h weapon 08:10 the staff of aesculapius is awesome 08:10 quest artifacts resist being cursed pretty well 08:11 how little you understand my relationship with the rng 08:12 i'm giving it a shot tho 08:12 i wonder if 5 scrolls of fire will put enough of a dent in kathryn to let me pacify her 08:15 at least with the 3.6 tip command, cursed 2-handed is less of a problem 08:27 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:43 heh 08:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:48 hello 08:48 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 08:48 thank you hecubus 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:6291 09:01 * K2 pets Hecubus 09:03 are elder minotaurs the ones that are uncharmable? 09:03 was a chameleon anyway 09:06 yeah, cannot be tamed 09:10 uuuugh, one of the hard drives in my storage array failed 09:10 not cool 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3183 points, T:2850, killed by a jaguar 09:22 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3467 09:28 damn i chose to do castle before ice queen but i'm getting smoked there too 09:28 no acid resistance + Liches = no good 09:28 ntm the summoning 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2586 points, T:4385, killed by a winter wolf 09:31 aaand geryon just showed up 09:31 that's what i get for complaining about summoning lol 09:32 oof 09:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:52016 09:32 phew.... made it to the stairs but had to pray 09:32 so so close 09:32 nice work! 09:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:52078 09:34 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 09:40 -!- NFTRoyals2 has joined #evilhack 09:40 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47 -!- NFTRoyals2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 09:51 -!- NFTRoyals2 has joined #evilhack 09:51 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 10:00 -!- NFTRoyals2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:00 argggh esp got gremlined 10:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:01 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:02 not just now right? gremlins can only steal trinsics at night 10:02 unless you're talking about a lava gremlin 10:03 they can do it during the day only 10:08 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 10:13 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:13 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 10:17 -!- NFTRoyals2 has joined #evilhack 10:17 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 10:22 -!- NFTRoyals2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:36 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4566 10:43 no, it just took me a long time to figure out what happened :-) 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12242 points, T:5948, killed by a human priest of Chih Sung-tzu 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4992 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 3022 points, T:5314, killed by a dwarf lord 10:50 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 11:00 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38391 11:03 an iron safe embedded in stone, ugh 11:05 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:05 a wall safe 11:05 kick it 11:09 kick! damn i'm dumb, i teleported it and now it is gone 11:12 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:15 I mean you should also probably report bug 11:15 doubt iron safes are supposed to be embedded in stone 11:16 i think that ludios version does it on purpose 11:16 i seem to recall i've seen it that way once before 11:18 -!- NFTroyals has joined #evilhack 11:18 I mean then, if it's intended to generate like that, it's probably a bug that you can dislodge it from the wall with a mere kick 11:19 aosdict you seem to be really thirsting for bugs 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "+2 blessed fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:2988 11:19 I drank too much "bug juice" as a 10 year old and now I'm in withdrawal 11:21 i don't think it is intentional 11:21 i just generated the level and it was sitting in the room normally, not embedded in stone 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1239 points, T:3551, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:38967 11:23 it's being generated because fill_zoo adds a safe somewhere random in the throne room 11:23 idk why it's in the wall but maybe because the room is not rectangular? 11:28 yeah the room struct includes all of that stone area that intrudes into the rectangle 11:28 more specifically it's probably somexy() being unintelligent and assuming everything is a rectange 11:29 there is only one room shape! 11:30 bleh 11:30 yeah there isnt any object that's intentionally embedded in a wall in evilhack 11:31 this is bhaak's fault 11:31 he made the level 11:31 sonofa... 11:31 oh is it "blame bhaak" week? 11:31 i think he intentionally tried to sabotage you K2 11:31 yes 11:31 next week it's rebatela's turn 11:32 that level is a pain in the butt too. aren't all the bars unbreakable? 11:32 then the week after that its you mobileuser 11:32 I'll prepare, thx 11:32 o/ 11:32 it's my turn to ascend this damn game i know that 11:32 before you make it impossible lol 11:33 also i don't like having 13. not super-supersticious but i've heard rumors about those digits 11:33 https://www.burg.biz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Wandtresor.jpg 11:34 what do you mean, iron safe are not supposed to be in walls? 11:34 hahahah 11:36 uh oh i'm screwed. can i cursed gain level from the castle ? 11:36 sure 11:36 teleport wand got canceled 11:37 that was close. i gotta beef up a bit i guess 11:38 damn liches keep summoning and i get surrounded 11:38 could really use conflict. gonna polypile for it i guess 11:53 dammit i'm ignoring what i'm doing again 11:54 ok, i have one round before i die in a water elemental and a wand of teleportation. i'm on a cleared castle. is this a teleport level, or a non-teleport level? am i zapping myself, or the water elemental? 11:54 i can never remember this crap 11:55 hep hep 11:56 i don't know if it's no-teleport but i think zapping the elemental will work 11:56 it looks like it is noteleport yeah 11:56 on noteleport you zap the engulfer, on teleport you zap yourself -- isn't that right? 11:57 yeah i guess you're right 11:57 anyway i just went to the castle in wizmode and zapping the elemental worked, i guess because it's no teleport 11:57 i wasn't sure because then i zapped myself and i could teleport (because of wizmode i guess) 11:57 i apologize that i'm always too lazy to wizmode answers for myself :-) thx 11:58 no problem, this was a learning experience for me. i didn't know zapping the engulfer worked on noteleport levels 11:58 i thought it always carried you along with it 12:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f697fd9bca00...dac612bda443 12:03 [EvilHack] k21971 dac612b - Fix: player monster samurai having giant-like attributes. 12:07 i tink you want to zap digging in a water elemental not teleport 12:07 I think it carries you along if you zap the water elemtnal with teleport 12:07 you want to zap yourself (i think) 12:07 but yeah castle is no teleport so probably doesn't work on yourself? 12:08 i've been carrying magical breathing in open inventory (when i have it) for those things and similar. And i'll switch amulets when i see one 12:10 teleport level: zap yourself 12:10 noteleport: zap engulfer 12:10 hotel: trivago 12:11 for escaping: digging for digesters, but you need something like opening otherwise 12:11 lol amateurhour 12:12 I can never remember waht works for gelcubes 12:12 * what 12:13 they suffocate, but digging still works I think? 12:13 don't touch it! its evil! 12:17 time bandits 12:17 any engulfer, you can free yourself with a wand of digdug 12:18 g - the uncursed +0 Hand of Vecna (merged to your left pedipalp) 12:18 ^ spider parts! 12:19 You hold the Hand of Vecna up high above your cephalothorax! Koa growls in agony! You feel guilty. 12:19 hahah 12:20 i am concerned that one day, the nethack devteam is going to get an angry email from a spider biologist about how i mangled the spider parts 12:20 -!- hextobin has joined #evilhack 12:20 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/dac612bda443...7b6b791ac499 12:20 [EvilHack] k21971 7b6b791 - Handle spiders, cockatrices in mbodypart. 12:21 looks legit 12:24 you can just use palp instead of pedipalp if you want 12:26 pediapalp sounds funnier 12:28 no pedipalp is as funny as a book lung 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 898 points, T:2376, killed by a dwarf lord 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:40543 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) murdered Slasher, her faithful dust vortex, on T:1771 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) averted death (killed by a giant spider), on T:2525 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 1060 points, T:2535, poisoned by a giant spider 13:08 -!- hextobin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:41779 13:22 was wondering why my pegasus couldn't kill this random dwarf queen -- ac -20 13:27 i can't get near this regular lich at the castle... the demilich at teleported to the stairs 13:27 This damn lich keeps casting acid at me (no resistance) but if i cast magic missile it always has a magic shield 13:28 it can just cast spells indefinitely apparently, while I have to keep resting for 100s of turns to get my PW back 13:28 throw rocks at it 13:29 that reflection spell is kind of ridiculous. And what, do monsters get complete reflection from it? and cast it all day along with offensive spells like acid cold etc. and never get tired? 13:30 i tried spying on you to help with suggestions but i guess you aren't playing right now? 13:30 nah i saved 13:31 non magic projectiles are obviously the answer 13:31 i dunno about rocks. but you're on the right path 13:31 but it's weird. In a way, this Lich is more powerful than the red L i just killed because it doesn't teleport 13:32 i can't get next to it between the summoning and the acid 13:32 conflict it? 13:32 don't have it yet! 13:32 teleport it? 13:32 i triedc polypiling for it 13:32 yeah. i just charged my canceled teleport wand 13:33 or cancel it of course 13:33 I really should altar camp for dragonbane. then the acid spell woulnd't be so bad and I could also do ice queen 13:33 but of course i just found gaunlets of protection 13:33 dragonbane is the answer for most things in this game 13:33 yeah. i don't think i have a cancel wand with charges but i might try that too 13:33 heh yeah -- i got mine finally this game but am still underwhelmed by my damage output as a healer swinging the staff 13:34 worried i'm gonna get swamped 13:34 i've gotten surrounded by really nasty stuff so many times at this castle 13:35 only a matter of time before a mf/mmf gives me amnesia 13:35 sucks my brain whatever. forget spells/martial arts ----> rage quit 13:35 i already cast force bolt at my stash and lost all my potions lol. I forgot i was still playing that game 13:35 ::doh! 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:42476 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5655 points, T:4216, killed by a flind 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:42746 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 2165 points, T:2684, zombified by a human zombie, while praying 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 71 points, T:140, killed by a system shock 14:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (orcs), on T:1 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 2527 points, T:2923, quit 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:1 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7 points, T:153, killed by a system shock 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class G), on T:1 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:45 -!- NFTroyals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:25 i have slow digestion now. I guess I will altar camp. i started to earlier but cast create monster and like 12 zombies showed up. and there's only one altar in the dungeon 15:25 maybe i'll go to minetown 15:27 problem is there's a titan in between me and my stash, and i have one cursed teleport left (i've been levelporting by him on the way up and digging down). I may go try charming him again, and he can kill the Lich... 15:27 i have a bag of gear for him 15:32 i'm finally at the part of the game i no longer really enjoy -- everything cleared through the valley, gotta start struggling to focus through gehennom 15:33 i wonder if i should wish for a t-shirt of excellence instead of decay, since i have the staff of aesculapius and a crappy centaur charisma for taming 15:35 or am i dreaming? does cha even effect scroll of taming? 15:36 I'm not sure if you're dreaming or not but I don't think it does 15:39 i assume you can wish for a dragonhide oilskin cloak, since oilskin cloaks aren't an oilskin property requiring cloth, but an item type? or is that a bogus wish? 15:43 charisma has an effect on conflict 15:43 but not taming 15:44 damn 15:44 just level, then? or not even that? 15:44 dragonhide oilskin cloak is fine 15:45 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Scroll_of_taming 15:45 ^ same rules apply to evilhack 15:45 i am *just now*, over a year late, figuring out than when i have the bag of hesp an oilskin cloak is the same as a cloak of protection, but better 15:45 yeah superbag +1 MC is nice 15:45 bag, super (1 EA) 15:46 lol 15:46 :P 15:46 military humor 15:46 maybe i'll roll the dice and try ascending with thiefable artifacts as my only sources of drain and magic resistance 15:47 i really don't know what i'm supposed to be doing with this healer, i'm just like a really bad melee class 15:47 also robe will give you MC3 with the bag 15:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:47 i think i have an apron (back at my stash of course). I could try getting close to lich with that i guess (if i had it) 15:47 apron is the answer if the question is how to survive his acid bombs 15:48 yeah 15:48 i can't remember if this is the game i found one. I remember it was cursed 15:53 yes. had an alchemy smock. haven't formally id'd so wasn't in discoveries 15:54 the lich is yours! 15:54 man i wish you could force herbivores to eat a floating eye 15:56 polymorph it into a dog, have it eat eye, repoly it back into original animal 15:57 e z p z 15:58 does poly even have a chance at pegasus? didn't think so 15:59 in furthering your attempts for player/monster parity of effects, polymorphed monsters should return to their original form when killed :-) 15:59 good for pets, bad for the arch-lich you polyed into a centaur 16:04 krm26 that is a slash'em / slashthem mechanic 16:05 makes having a ring of protection from shape changers very important 16:05 also, stuff that you polymorph will revert 16:05 you and rebatela would hate that ;-) 16:06 i mostly like to polymorph consumables so not sure that would bother me much 16:06 although stuff can be fixed to current with a restore ability potion 16:06 krm26 LIES 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:43497 16:09 hey now 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:43529 16:12 the slashem poly change is really nasty 16:14 k2: @npcs should be able to throw apples/carrots and steal your pegasus 16:15 my pegasus just killed an npc healer just like me with a bag full of apples he didn't use 16:16 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1768 16:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:17 The acid dissipates harmlessly. 16:18 how do i make that little cheer emoticon? 16:19 lich is finally done, but now something just canceled me. dammit 16:19 \o/ 16:19 fk! lich gated in a dragon that burped my pegasus in 1 round 16:20 -!- Guest1768 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 756982 points, T:57639, killed by a red dragon, while moving through the air 16:20 nooooooo 16:20 bah that castle was bad bad bad lol 16:20 so sorry man 16:20 * rebatela is bad bad bad 16:20 nah it's ok 16:20 fun game 16:20 i screwed up and was still wearing the smock 16:20 but there was this disecnchanter 16:21 and i'm still not sure what was doing the summoning now that the lich was gone 16:21 !lastgame rebatela 16:21 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1644758941.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1647453907.evil.html 16:21 ah i think that's a kirin maybe 16:21 its' not but there is one somehwere 16:21 THAT'S what i forgot about 16:22 brutal 16:23 k2, when a gray dragon cancels itself on your slaughtered gray dragon cosplay, it will still cancel you if you pop it one, right? 16:25 oh damn i didn't even read the dump log. the blessed extra healing i quaffed was milky and a ghost frightened me lol 16:25 now that's a fitting way for that game to finally end... wtf 16:25 i thought i had the turn to take the potions out (turns out i did) 16:27 yeah, you can never drink milky or smoky potions in a crunch, alas 16:27 the rng is just waiting to fk you 16:38 yeah it should 17:10 what's the name of the V guy in the Vecna branch? Kas? 17:10 yup 17:10 I am right above Kas' level but I'm kind of scared of going down there, what should I expect? 17:10 i poked my head in long enough to see a V guy and a bunch of arch liches or something, then I skedaddled 17:10 4 arch liches you need to deal with before Kas, and two eyes 17:11 two eyes? 17:11 here's what i do -- scare monster, cursed invis, kill the 4 arch liches 17:11 blindfold, kill two beholders/eyes in the big room 17:11 then go for kas, who i deal with at ranged because of his sword 17:11 won't Kas pop over to you when you use cursed invis? or is he not like that? 17:12 then on vecna's levels there are yet more arch-liches and alhoons to deal with before vecna 17:12 nope, kas won't 17:12 neither will vecna 17:12 oh, I feel a bit better about going down the stairs then 17:12 vecna meditates through anything as far as i can tell 17:12 i was worried as soon as I moved he'd be on top of me 17:12 you have to walk up to him, poke him, then run back to the stairs while vecna harasses you 17:12 so def. clear the entire vecna level before poking vecna 17:13 good advice, thanks 17:13 (and always blindfold yourself for the entire vecna fight) 17:13 why? 17:13 his gaze is le suck 17:13 you can't meet his eye or you'll regret it 17:13 drains max hp as i recall 17:14 fun 17:14 the problem i had with vecna the first time i did him -- with a priest -- was i couldn't do any damage to him. having the sword of kas helps, or a real weapon (i just did him again with a priest with demonbane/mjollnir and it wasn't too bad) 17:15 you can also rubber chicken vecna if you are persistent, which is how i finally killed him my first time with a lot of encouragement from k2 17:16 kas is basically the same as vlad except without teleporting to you 17:16 right now I am twoweaponing Excalibur and Grayswandir 17:18 i think vecna has special vecna-only damage reduction except vs the sword of kas? but i'm sure those will do plenty 17:21 i took out the liches with your cursed invisibility trick 17:22 and the beholders 17:22 i'm glad you warned me about them 17:22 i would have definitely walked right into them 17:23 also beware salamanders on the bridge if you aren't greased up 17:24 kas is usually ready and waiting when you lower the drawbridge, but sometimes he's stuck in the back 17:26 i'm at the kas level on this healer too, and i'm wondering if i have the juice to take vecna at all, the staff of aesculapius will be hitting him for maybe 5ish/rnd and he's got 400some hp 17:27 which lets him summon a LOT of nasties 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Kas, on T:145392 17:32 \o/ 17:33 good job! any problems? 17:33 be ready for aa pair of alhoons and some master liches on the next level too 17:33 if you want it it totally viable to scare monster/cursed invis those guys away too 17:34 not really, thanks to your warning about the beholders. though a demilich canceled me and I can't figure out what items he messed up 17:34 oh it's my luckstone 17:34 and unicorn horn 17:39 eww, my shamblings eat brains 17:40 oh man 17:40 that sucks 17:40 the ones i have right now have a steal-and-teleport-away attack 17:40 which is really annoying because I can't see them with ESP 17:41 so I have to trudge through the whole level searching for them to get back the items they stole 17:43 lately i've just been doing the first two levels of that branch, and not even bothering with vecna 17:43 i just wear the alhoon hat and deal with the liches. although they can be a pita 17:43 Kas can hit pretty hard iirc 17:44 Oh you killed him nice GG 17:44 i want to get rid of him so I can wear a speed hat and jumping boots, instead of speed boots and mobileuser hat 17:44 nice. yeah it's definitely worth it 17:44 i've just been lazy 17:44 i've been saving a wish for dragonhide boots until i figure out which combo i'll be using for the rest of the game lol 17:44 or maybe it will be a moot point because I'll die to Vecna :) 17:45 yeah i just splatted but i got those dragonhide speed boots in a polypile. crazy 17:45 vecna is fun 17:45 i've definitely died there a couple times though 17:46 excalibur and grayswandir sounds like quite a combo 17:46 i need to start using weapons 17:51 I just switch hats when I spot an alhoon 17:52 i care about the teleporting-to-the-stairs-and-summoning-shit-unexpectedly a lot more than i care about my brain being eaten. i'm always getting rid of alhoons/archliches/materliches now 17:55 I think the covetous warping behaviour is kinda bs in vanilla, I wish only the wizard would be able to do it 18:04 qt: late to the convo but I'm pretty sure the name of the V guy in the Vecna branch is Vecna 18:04 its Kas 18:04 Vecna is L 18:04 -----> the joke 18:04 you 18:04 I think that was a joke ;-) 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7319 18:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 17103 points, T:9091, killed by a wand 19:23 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2774 19:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:27 -!- Guest2774 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:28 -!- Umbire is now known as Umbiretaur 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5135 points, T:3778, killed by a dwarven watchman 19:37 -!- Umbiretaur is now known as Umbire 19:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 19:39 well this sucks. no shops at all (got the minetown with just the light store) none in the dungeon down to the big room where I find these bones where I get killed by a death ray 19:39 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1646741441.evil.txt 19:40 i guess i will do soko and hope for reflection! 19:41 izchak will price id scrolls if i throw them in? 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10273 19:48 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:50 oh actually theres a food store too... so i can use him and then kill him 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 6319 points, T:9965, killed by a human zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:59 will amulet of mr prevent istadeath from a death wand? 20:00 i guess it doesn't matter which amulet i get 20:00 yup 20:01 either amulet will save you from the wand of death 20:02 ooh, you have free action waiting for you there! excellent! 20:02 that's a good bones in general 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:45863 20:15 is the Magic 8-Ball not pre-fooproofed? 20:17 i guess not 20:20 Nope 20:20 Artifacts generally aren't 20:20 Unless they were gifted 20:21 okay a stupid lich cast the spell that unfooproofed my boots 20:21 and then an umber hulk confused me and i walked into lava 20:21 so my newly unfireproofed +5 speed boots were destroyed 20:21 doh! 20:21 that's annoying 20:22 as long as you didn't get stuck in lava 20:22 i also came fairly close to dying 20:22 i did get stuck in it 20:22 as a mplayer giant wizard surrounded me with nasties 20:22 but i made my way out 20:23 it's been a long time since I got stuck in lava so I was really floundering around. i tried putting on a ring of levitation ("i'll float out of the lava! it's a flawless plan!") which didn't work. 20:23 then i solidified the lava with a wand of cold, but i was stuck in the stone and still surrounded by the summoned monsters 20:23 but a friendly black dragon engulfed me which ended up freeing me from being buried :) 20:28 i guess i should probably abort this vecna excursion, having no speed boots 20:28 i got +5 water walking boots from the giant wizard after I killed him but I'm guessing I should be very fact when facing Vecna 20:30 I just had to retreat from dealing with the alhoons and master liches on his level -- giant whipped away my staff of aesculapius and something fragged my scare monster 20:30 all i managed to do was help them generate another 15-20 dragons and giants and green slimes 20:30 I was able to kill the alhoons and liches at least 20:30 though actually there was only one alhoon I think 20:38 can a beholder's gaze attack kill your steed? 20:39 i don't think so? 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (decapitated by a vorpal jabberwock), on T:147066 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3718222 points, T:147069, decapitated by a vorpal jabberwock 20:49 rip 20:50 double decapitation 20:50 !lastgame qt 20:50 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1639729102.evil.html 20:50 :-( 20:51 why were you meleeing it? that's ballsy 20:51 i never give them a single round if i can avoid it 20:51 i did a-s-h meaning 'apply the stethoscope to it' without realizing I was deaf 20:51 doh! 20:52 so i got "you're deaf, idiot" and then attacked it 20:53 how likely is it that they'll decapitate you? did i get especially unlucky or is that pretty normal, twice in 3 turns? 21:22 oh my god 21:23 how did I miss this all this time?? https://0x0.st/oN7T.png 21:23 k2 i can't believe it 21:23 no wonder both games where i've gotten to gehennom have ended to a vorpal jabberwock 21:23 i've been found out 21:24 I would have gotten away with it too, if it werent for you meddling kids 21:24 i must have overlooked it because of that boring sounding commit message 21:25 zoinks 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:14104 21:34 i guess 1/15 means I did get really unlucky for it to happen twice in 3 turns 21:36 yup :/ 21:38 what is that, like a 1% chance? 21:39 bummer 21:39 i blame the stupid lich and umber hulk who conspired to relieve me of my speed boots 21:55 it was like 'hmm I missed a spot' 21:55 slice slice 21:55 I think I've figured out how I'm going to implement dtsund dragon armor 21:56 its not going to be exactly the way its done in xnethack/fourk 21:56 but close 21:56 end result will be same 22:24 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:24 hrm 22:27 I dunno 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) had a platinum spear entrusted to her by Anu, on T:18515 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:19331 22:39 Oh wow, qt got absolutely fucked 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone bow on an altar, on T:4504 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:20395 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13838 points, T:7092, killed by a giant leech 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:8860 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 27535 points, T:8876, killed by an iron golem 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Cav Gia Fem Law) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Anu, on T:24320