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01:05 <bouquet_> do alhoon's respect ?sm?
01:13 <Umbire> I think they do?
01:13 <Umbire> emphasis because I've only ran into one once and turned around immediately
01:13 <Umbire> (died to unrelated stuff after)
01:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:39140
01:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:82721
01:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:82788
02:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Robber, on T:43919
02:28 <bouquet_> they do
02:30 <Umbire> Figured
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04:59 <Umbire> Someone remind me, what color do frost salamanders show up as?
04:59 <Umbire> I'm tempted to go with cyan for the wiki but I wanna be accurate
04:59 <Umbire> Actually hold on
05:00 <Umbire> page for this lmao
05:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 395 points, T:2226, killed by a rock gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze
05:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1511 points, T:3430, killed by an exploding wand
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07:12 <Umbire> Yo mobile
07:12 <Umbire> K2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ice_Queen%27s_Realm
07:24 <mobileuser> hi
07:24 <Hecubus> Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack
07:24 <Umbire> mobileuser: you happen to know where branches handle monster generation in the code?
07:25 <Umbire> specifically the alignment bias?
07:25 <mobileuser> sorry, no idea
07:27 <Umbire> aw
07:27 <Umbire> np
07:29 <mobileuser> dungeon.def ?
07:30 <mobileuser> ALIGNMENT:      unaligned
07:30 <Umbire> Ah, thank you
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08:15 <rebatela> hello people 
08:15 <krm26> good day
08:16 <rebatela> what should i wish for? 
08:16 <rebatela> have lamp burning a hole in my pocket 
08:16 <krm26> i have the same problem
08:16 <krm26> what server you on? 
08:17 <krm26> found you, lemme look
08:17 <krm26> well shit dragonbane man
08:18 <rebatela> well, i actually almost wished for a marker to try to write magic missile.  my polymorph wand got shocking sphere'd 
08:19 <rebatela> but now i just found ludios so it gives me something to do and i'm going to hold onto wish
08:19 <krm26> maybe the throne will cough up a free wish -- good luck!
08:19 <rebatela> i have reflection and mr so this is good. I can buy more protection at the very least 
08:19 <krm26> but you are kitted out enough at that stage i might wish for my mandatory ascension kit item, +3 blessed dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance
08:19 <rebatela> i think the odds of  a throne wish in evil are less than vanilla (in ludios speciificallly) but i have gotten them
08:20 <rebatela> yeah a shirt isn't bad since i know i'll wear it to the end 
08:21 <rebatela> i'm definitely not "kitted out" though lol. Just got lucky and found cloak of mr so i don't need artifact/amulet 
08:21 <rebatela> also play giant a lot so often can't wear cloak when i find 
08:22 <krm26> mr/reflection above Medusa means kitted out to me :-)
08:22 <rebatela> i want to wish for EotA (and hopefully not get neferet) 
08:22 <rebatela> krm26: haha true 
08:22 <rebatela> usually i have to do quest or wish for mr j
08:22 <rebatela> i seem to always get reflection in soko
08:22 <rebatela> so sometimes i go for the tool now if i don't have a boh 
08:23 <krm26> seems like i'm always taking a flip of the coin on the amulet in sokoban, and losing
08:24 <krm26> i wish there was a "reflection closet" -- reflection/protection, and an "mr closet" -- mr/speed
08:24 <krm26> or versa vice
08:25 <krm26> so the failure to get the resistance you need still left you with a consolation prize
08:26 <rebatela> sometimes i'm not in the mood for ludios (i know you like it) but some games I'm at a point where i don't really want to do medusa or the quest and it's just perfect 
08:26 <krm26> i'm never too full for ludios
08:27 <krm26> it is an excellent early source of dsm
08:27 <rebatela> yeah i forget about that (monk) 
08:30 <krm26> you do sometimes non-monk? sometimes?
08:33 <rebatela> oh of course
08:33 <rebatela> in vanilla etc. 
08:33 <rebatela> i REMEMBER needing dragons to make armor lol 
08:33 <rebatela> it's just been a while ;)
08:34 <krm26> some of the evil-modded classes are also really fun -- arch is one of my favorites
08:35 <krm26> and after this priest i may go back to infidel for a while, it is pretty interesting
08:35 <rebatela> i have no ranged attack in this game. that's what is screwing me 
08:35 <rebatela> i need mm badly 
08:35 <Umbire> Hi rebatela and amateurhour 
08:35 <rebatela> yo umbire
08:35 <krm26> or shuriken! might pop up in ludios
08:35 <Umbire> Currently fixing up the just-made Ice Queen page
08:36 <rebatela> oh cool 
08:36 <aosdict> arch doesn't have a cool redesigned quest
08:36 <krm26> make sure to remind people to bring an apron and 4 blessed scrolls of fire if they have any doubt
08:36 <krm26> arch has a cool redesigned quest item tho
08:36 <rebatela> i have 9 shuriken. when i get poly i'm going to make as many shuriken as i can
08:37 <krm26> and it has a fun starting pickaxe lottery for the easily amused like me :-)
08:37 <rebatela> i might wish for polymorph if i get some spelbooks here 
08:37 <rebatela> nothing good in ludios 
08:37 <rebatela> empty chests and amnesia scrolls 
08:39 <rebatela> i think i'm better off wishing for marker, maxing my luck and writing magic missile. i did that last game but the marker was like (0:95) .no way of knowing what it will be although I have charging 
08:39 <amateurhour> what's the 'fun starting pickaxe lottery'?
08:39 <krm26> dont do it, if you have to poly for magic missile
08:39 <krm26> your arch can start with a blessed +5 pickaxe!
08:39 <amateurhour> oh nice
08:40 <krm26> never write a spellbook you can poly for
08:40 <krm26> there are always SO MANY excess spellbooks
08:40 <krm26> i mean, unless you are under massive time pressure
08:40 <krm26> says the guy who is just reaching vlad at 87k turns
08:41 <krm26> hah, just found a spellbook of magic missile :-)
08:42 <Umbire> I mean it's p. low ink, worth the shot if you haven't found it and don't have a means of polymorph
08:42 <Umbire> brb
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08:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:87708
08:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:87714
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08:53 <rebatela> oooo level 6 spelbook. could be poly 
08:55 <krm26> good rng!
08:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 526 points, T:1048, killed by a bugbear
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:88398
09:02 <rebatela> create familiar. oh well 
09:03 <rebatela> as far as not writing a spellbook  you can poly for
09:03 <rebatela> A) You need spellbooks for fodder 
09:03 <rebatela> B) You need polymorph
09:04 <rebatela> writing it blind as a non wizard is definitely last resort 
09:04 <rebatela> but yeah i think i'm gonna wish for polymorph. gonna be hard to cast until i boost my stats though 
09:08 <krm26> k2 -- yani for pit of lemurs. let lemurs actually be dangerous en masse, give them a withering-like stacking debuff that won't be meaningful when you see one, but when you are surrounded by a buttload...  i think it should be nutrition-sapping, a stacking famine attack
09:09 <krm26> just something fun for the lemur pit level
09:09 <krm26> not sure why i keep talking about lemurs instead of lemures
09:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Leoo (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3091
09:30 <krm26> crap i wish i could pray for spell points
09:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Leoo (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1805 points, T:3140, zombified by a gnome zombie
09:36 <rebatela> YES!!! found magic missile IN the monk quest 
09:36 <krm26> awesome!
09:36 <krm26> now you are unstoppable
09:39 <rebatela> the best now would be if i could get dragonbane from altar 
09:39 <rebatela> then i can use the guaranateed wish on eota
09:40 <Umbire> $spawn = { (02,07),(07,08),(21,12),(22,05),
09:40 <Umbire>            (46,03),(47,12),(64,06),(65,16) }
09:40 <Umbire> SHUFFLE: $spawn
09:40 <Umbire> ^what's all this then
09:40 <Umbire> looking at Ice Queen's .des file and wondering what it means
09:40 <amateurhour> it's a list of coords, it shuffles them
09:41 <Umbire> For what purpose o:
09:41 <Umbire> Oh you mean like, the stuff AT those coords?
09:41 <amateurhour> it just needs some random coords, those are the possible valid ones
09:41 <amateurhour> then it shuffles them, and later on in the des file you see like
09:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1
09:41 <amateurhour> spawn[0]
09:42 <amateurhour> that's where it gets the first element of the (now shuffled) list
09:43 <amateurhour> kinda pointless in that des file imo as it just puts random monsters in all those places... but oh well
09:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning
09:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:27129
09:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27132
09:50 <rebatela> wiki says theres's 14 random items on the bottom level? THere's nothing... a fortune cookie
09:50 <rebatela> "fourteen  random objects" my ass 
09:51 <rebatela> unless you count fire traps 
10:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:27944
10:01 <rebatela> dammnit
10:02 <rebatela>  ha i hit with unicorn horn not pickaxe. oh well 
10:03 <rebatela> "You just miss the small mimic. You aren't sure you're doing this the right way..." 
10:03 <rebatela> I should have seen that message :( 
10:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:30021
10:21 <K2> new fuzzing record
10:22 <K2> 181.9 mil turns
10:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:30635
10:23 <rebatela> oh great now he thinks i'm using weapons 
10:24 <K2> that bit isnt in current version yet
10:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Leoo (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1436 points, T:3329, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze
10:29 <Umbire> Oh, K2 
10:29 <Umbire> For the article tty map
10:30 <Umbire> what color are spear traps and spiked pits in this game?
10:34 <K2> spear traps are brown
10:35 <K2> spiked pits are same color as vanilla
10:35 <Umbire> that being...
10:35 * Umbire checks
10:35 <Umbire> dark gray right
10:35 <Umbire> thank you
10:35 <amateurhour> why arent spear traps green they have pear in the name
10:36 <K2> its because of the s
10:36 <rebatela> one of the first times i played the ice queen realm a frost giant zapped fire wand at me and i insta died (fell through the ice). Might want to mention that some way in any sort of spoiler 
10:37 <rebatela> unless it's changed you're taking your chances not levitating on the blueish parts 
10:39 <rebatela> i guess it's rare though. only happened that one time.  frost giant shouldn't have had fire wand but he did 
10:43 <K2> what do you mean 'shouldnt'
10:43 <K2> all sorts of monsters can spawn with a variety of wands
10:43 <K2> wand of fire is acceptable
10:55 <rebatela> i don't have a problem with it 
10:56 <rebatela> i hope you didn't nerf  it . i was mad at the time but looking back it's pretty baller 
10:56 <rebatela> (and i want it to happen to someone else) 
10:56 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/a7592f773e6b...3aec2090e227
10:56 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 3aec209 - Formatting cleanup in u_init.c
10:57 <rebatela> you have to weigh the risk of wether it's worth the ring slot 
10:57 <rebatela> like i said, it's never happened since 
10:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a leather apron entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23855
11:00 <amateurhour> YASI: if you get crowned as neutral (becoming the envoy of balance) you never lose your balance on ice
11:03 <rebatela> lol 
11:04 <rebatela> if you have water walking do you die if you're on ice and something zaps fire?
11:05 <rebatela> i've pretty much always levitated since then 
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11:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a twisted staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1485
11:21 <rebatela> 4d7 weapon wound leg, 4d6 claw steal item, 2d7 weapon acid 
11:25 <K2> ez pz
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11:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34873
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11:32 <rebatela> i was going to wish for a marker and write magic missile and i've now found 4 of the spellbooks 
11:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4930 points, T:3755, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted elven watch captain
12:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 545 points, T:1226, killed by a piranha
12:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:27798
12:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2531 points, T:3541, killed by a dwarf king
12:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:43243
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 453 points, T:2023, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Fem Cha), 5 points, T:232, killed by a jackal
13:02 <krm26> i would still like to see shambling horrors gain an additional random ability each time one of them is killed
13:02 <krm26> pls pls pls
13:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 109 points, T:834, killed by a small mimic
13:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 43 darts on an altar, on T:3914
13:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4178
13:15 <Umbire> lol a silver dragon dropped a silver amulet
13:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6374
13:38 <Umbire> alright so a monster having displacement while asleep results in short-range "teleports"
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 216 points, T:1506, killed by a stone giant
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22547 points, T:8249, killed by a gnoll hunter
13:47 <Umbire> "You feel guilty."
13:48 <Umbire> For creating a tame flame sphere that exploded.
13:48 <Umbire> Welp, never using that again
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14:28 <Umbire> Witnessed my first cursed lifesaving proc, thankfully not on me
14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 8548 points, T:8319, killed by an owlbear
14:55 <K2> that shouldnt happen
14:55 <K2> the guilty bit
14:55 <K2> in what context Umbire?
14:56 <Umbire> Might be that my djinn was caught in the blast
14:56 <K2> if that's true then that isnt a bug
14:56 <Umbire> Still a good reason to not use it unless I can clear a path, but more annoyance than bug
14:56 <Umbire> (i.e. not a bug at all)
14:57 <K2> the spheres you can summon via spell, you get credit for whatever they kill/damage
14:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:1
14:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:8, killed by a djinni, while praying
15:01 <Umbire> wew K2 check that out
15:01 <Umbire> !lastgame
15:01 <Hecubus> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dgoddard/evilhack/dumplog/1647802707.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Leoo/evilhack/dumplog/1647783146.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1643273143.evil.html
15:01 <Umbire> incredible (bad) luck
15:02 <K2> heh
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15:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4244
15:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a platinum broadsword entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4711
15:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an opera cloak entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5100
15:33 <Umbire> K2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ice_Queen%27s_Realm 
15:46 <K2> noooice
16:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
16:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7392 points, T:6506, killed by a wand
16:39 <Umbire> TIL pegasi apparently lay eggs
16:39 <K2> yup
16:39 <Umbire> where'd you get that detail from
16:39 <K2> they are like platypus with wings
16:41 <amateurhour> fictional monster in a game is like 2 layers of fiction so anything goes
16:41 <K2> https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Pegasus#Ecology
16:44 <Umbire> amateurhour: yeah but I'm also v. curious
16:51 <mobileuser> "Pegasi eggs are incredibly valuable on the market." hmmm what do they sell for in evilhack
16:51 <aosdict> pegasi lay eggs?
16:52 <mobileuser> forgotten realms says so
16:53 <K2> that's been a thing since early days ad&d
16:54 <rebatela> confused by this game, and how he started with smoky potions as monk? https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dgoddard/evilhack/dumplog/1647802707.evil.txt
16:55 <rebatela> oh healing
16:55 <rebatela> duh
16:55 <rebatela> damn i can't believe i've never tried that 
16:55 * rebatela puts down bong
16:56 <rebatela> got greedy with that second one 
17:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning
17:16 <mobileuser> that dgoddard is a little work of art
17:16 <mobileuser> * dgoddard game
17:17 <mobileuser> what are the chances of that...
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17:33 <rebatela> mobileuser: hehe i know ! 
17:34 <rebatela> were they blessed smoky potions?
17:34 <rebatela> just uncursed? that's pretty remarkable even if blessed
17:34 <rebatela> my brother was visiting and i explained the situation (he has ascended vanilla) and we were both shocked 
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17:37 <mobileuser> hah
17:38 <mobileuser> he can't have known the BUC-status, quite the gamble
17:38 <rebatela>  i mean i know speed runners will play healer and scum for that, but i've never seen two djinis like that 
17:39 <krm26> what? 2 smoky potions in the first room?
17:39 <aosdict> is it a work of art if it's just dumb luck?
17:39 <krm26> that is ballsy to wish for frost brand on level 1 anyway, just as likely to be murdered by its wielder
17:39 <mobileuser> krm26 monk starting with smoky = healing
17:40 <krm26> yeah, he had 1 blessed he got frost brand from and 2 uncursed, which killed him
17:41 <krm26> i've got a new lottery to play tho, roll monk until healing is smoky!
17:43 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3aec2090e227...63537486b8bf
17:43 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 d28234b - Fix: a couple monsters hiding in water cases.
17:43 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 6353748 - Fix: same handling for hiding monsters in sewage and shallow water.
17:44 <K2> in case you all missed it earlier - new stability record for evilhack fuzzing
17:44 <K2> 181.9 million turns
17:46 <rebatela> krm26: yeah, people definitely do it with healers because they start with more potions. but monk seems better 
17:46 <rebatela> he should have been happy with the frost brand and quit while ahead
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17:51 <rebatela> i'm going to charm/arm this titan and activate the balrog figurine and do castle that way. There's a kirin and something else nasty there i forget 
17:52 <rebatela> probably leave some pet bones for someone as usual 
17:54 <krm26> i've never played healer much at all
17:55 <krm26> i'm bad with pets
17:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3875 points, T:10367, poisoned by a hobbit zombie
18:05 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/63537486b8bf...677261e67776
18:06 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 677261e - Tweak to 'You feel guilty' commit.
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18:29 <mobileuser> K2 nice work!
18:30 <mobileuser> the fuzzing I mean
18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 439 points, T:2443, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
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19:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 1462 points, T:3291, killed by a mountain dwarf
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21:22 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/677261e67776...1e5e4f757cf2
21:22 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 edf2cd5 - Fix: remove create_gas_cloud bit from evaporating fountains.
21:22 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 1e5e4f7 - Collisions while hurtling can stone participants.
21:27 <bouquet_> can I get some advice on an alhoon problem?
21:27 <bouquet_> This alhoon has 300+ hp and is way too fast at brainsucking for me to damage it enough before I have to retreat.
21:28 <bouquet_> I thought maybe an aklys could whack him from behind a boulder fort, but no.
21:28 <bouquet_> I have no ranged skill.
21:29 <bouquet_> I have a magic lamp. I could try for an oilskin cap so I don't die to brainlessness and then I can at least chop him up.
21:29 <bouquet_> any other ideas?
21:31 <K2> the alhoon hat is a good idea
21:32 <K2> the wish would be something like 'blessed fixed cloth oilskin elven helm' (or fedora for style points)
21:32 <K2> and of course the enchantment
21:32 <bouquet_> thanks
21:33 <K2> if doing elven helm, specifying 'cloth' is important. oilskin prop can only work on cloth objects
21:33 <bouquet_> I'm pretty sure my past samurai have done the quest first so I usually had a stack of shuriken.
21:33 <bouquet_> this is VaderFLAG's bones
21:33 <K2> oof
21:35 <bouquet_> did you do the D&D session yet?
21:35 <K2> no, first one will be this coming friday
21:36 <K2> i need to bone up on forgotten realms for 2nd edition, campaign takes place right at the start of the 'Time of Troubles'
21:36 <K2> and I need to develop a good back story for my character
21:36 <K2> i think i'm gonna roll a human wizard (mage, not specialist)
21:37 <bouquet_> oh man, love faerun
21:37 <bouquet_> had some good times in waterdeep
21:37 * K2 loves him some waterdeep
21:37 <K2> i miss the greyhawk setting from 1st edition
21:38 <bouquet_> I never did that one. We did Dragon Lance instead.
21:38 <K2> nice
21:39 <K2> the group I am going to play with, they have their own discord. they've posted their ruleset and other campaign info
21:40 <K2> i think i can wait to role my toon until that night, but i want to have a good story already planned out
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21:42 <Umbire> Right, so I know yeti don't appear in Gehennom in Evil and SLASH'EM
21:42 <Umbire> But what about vanilla, since there's no G_NOHELL, does vulnerability to fire keep them from generating there
21:43 <K2> doubt it
21:50 <bouquet_> I hope you have a kick ass time, k2!
21:51 <K2> thanks, me too!
21:51 <K2> I'll fill ya in
21:52 <K2> i've downloaded the pdf for the players handbook and forgotten realms. but i dont want to read these on my computer. i want an actual book
21:52 <bouquet_> I'm literally standing next to a stack of 2e books right now :)
21:52 <K2> lol
21:52 <K2> S E N D
21:53 <K2> i'm looking at all of my 1st edition books
21:53 <K2> why cant they play 1e
21:53 <K2> ah well
21:53 <bouquet_> thac0
21:53 <K2> yup
21:53 <K2> that's easy
21:54 <K2> does AC still start at 10 and go down? or does it now start at 0 and go up?
21:54 <bouquet_> it goes up
21:54 <K2> figured
21:54 <K2> heathens
21:54 <bouquet_> feels unnatural to me
21:54 <K2> same
21:54 <bouquet_> incoming opinion: WotC tried to turn D&D into World of Warcraft.
21:54 <bouquet_> "balance"
21:54 <bouquet_> hate that word :(
21:55 <K2> so if i need a 10 thac0, i need an 11 to hit a monster with ac 1
21:55 <bouquet_> math!
21:55 <K2> uuuugh
21:55 <K2> heh
21:55 <K2> is it still natural 20 always hits, natural 1 misses?
21:56 <bouquet_> I think that's more of a 3.5e rule.
21:56 <bouquet_> We used that as a house rule back in 1e days,though.
21:57 <K2> yah we always used it with 1e
21:59 <K2> found this - https://www.ebay.com/itm/194362096930
21:59 <K2> missing some bits
21:59 <K2> all the books are there though
22:12 <K2> ordered me some books
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22:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin zombie, on T:8697
22:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14448 points, T:10144, killed by a dwarf king
22:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2293 points, T:2187, killed by a jaguar
22:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 65 points, T:391, killed by a boulder
22:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2411 points, T:2788, killed by a mumak
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23:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 478 points, T:1466, killed by a piranha
23:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4235
23:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 3941 points, T:4483, killed by a jaguar
23:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:49160
23:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49164
23:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:52942
23:44 <bouquet_> lord sato, what a sucker