00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18235 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 566 points, T:2415, killed by a baby white dragon 03:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 418 points, T:1113, zombified by a kobold zombie 04:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:346 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1406 points, T:2046, zombified by a diseased orc corpse 07:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:64531 08:27 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/aa3b3b02d623...7afd4f0c003e 08:27 [EvilHack] k21971 7afd4f0 - Fix: 'You feel guilty' out of nowhere. 08:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7afd4f0c003e...5c915b257514 08:40 [EvilHack] k21971 5c915b2 - Fix: non-lawful Angels spawning with lawful artifacts. 08:43 I think I have a better way to do 'You feel guilty' out of nowhere 08:43 Hmmm 08:43 What'll you do wrt non-lawful A in the meantime 08:43 if anything 08:44 what do you mean 08:51 K2: since only lawful angelics can get Demonbane/Sunsword, is there gonna be 08:51 not even an equivalent artifact but like, something for other alignments' angels? 08:51 no 08:51 tbf lawful could still use a few more advantages so I'm on the fence even about asking that :B 08:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] abcdefg (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 250 points, T:679, killed by a kobold 08:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 09:45 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, shot himself with a death ray 09:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:02 K2: https://hardfought.org/xlogfiles/evilhack/paniclog you see these 'alphabet soup' impossibles for carlarc? 10:03 they are from a shambling horror using some kind of unnamed acid blast. it seems like they're getting some type of ray/breath/beam/magic attack with AD_ACID, a combination that has no name assigned in flash_types 10:04 so i think either shambling horrors shouldn't get that AT_ AD_ combination or it should get a name in flash_types. 10:15 it looks like the beam attack is being interpreted as a 'wand of acid' 10:16 The shambling horror zaps you with a ! Alphabet soup: 'the("")'. Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) The [] whizzes by you! 10:16 (a previous message in another ttyrec says 'the acid doesn't hurt you' or something) 10:16 so maybe the right way to fix it is to figure out why it's being treated like a wand 10:17 or a beam spell rather 10:18 well, AD_ACID is one of the possible assignments in damg_magic_types so presumably that's why 10:19 added in 5bef65 -- so we're back to either adding some 'beam of acid' description to flash_types, or else removing AD_ACID from the possible magic beam attacks it can be assigned 10:25 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 954 points, T:3070, killed by a giant bat 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:79036 12:23 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 12:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 692 points, T:2130, killed by a rothe 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3757 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4652 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6087 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6412 13:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:49 qt thanks 13:49 i saw the same thing whislt fuzzing 13:49 whilst 13:49 WHILST 13:49 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/1971f8ebd1834417f78264dea1000f2c29ff3730 13:53 i love the word -- it is a middle english concatenated version of "the while that" (tha hwile the from OE) 13:54 a good old 14th or 15th century modernization 13:55 it kinda reminds me of 'moist' 13:55 which used in certain company, is frowned upon 13:55 alas, moist is from French :-) 13:56 it bemuses me that you find the word so strange, it's pretty normal here haha 13:56 its almost as bad as using the word 'Belgium' 13:56 Belgium is also of Romance origin! Belgica, Latin 13:57 Caesar name-dropped it all the time 13:57 ohh I'm so cool look at how awesome I was in the Gallic Wars for which I'm your only written authority so you better believe I wouldn't build myself up at all 13:58 :) 13:59 so just got back from having platelet injection in my left arm 14:00 its gonna suck when the numbing agent wears off 14:00 tendinitis? 14:01 i ripped one of the tendons that connects my lower bicep to my forearm 14:01 platelet as in the type of armour, it's actually an experiment to create a superhuman 14:01 ow ow 14:01 yeah 14:01 ouch 14:01 did it about 6 months ago doing pullups, and it never healed 14:02 i havent been able to really lift anything greater than 5 lbs without a fair amount of pain since september 14:03 hope you have a good PT 14:03 doc said if the tear had happened just a few millimeters lower, it would have healed on its own in a couple weeks 14:04 as it stands, the tear happened in a low blood flow area, hence the injection 14:04 measure twice, rip your tendon once 14:04 krm26 my wife is an excellent PT, so I'm good to go in that regard 14:05 then how do your spend your time in PT envisioning ripping out your therapist's entrails through their nose 14:05 oh i still do 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 28535 points, T:9236, killed by a gnoll 14:05 i just dont say anything 14:05 cuz you know... she'll actually kill me 14:05 my pt's favorite transition phrase between exercises is "you know what? i bet this one will hurt a lot more" 14:06 hahah 14:06 she also likes to say things like "mr. edelwood, who is in his 80s, didn't have any trouble with this one" 14:06 or "i hope you don't complain as much taking out the garbage" 14:07 i like this one - "my dead grandpa is more flexible than you" 14:08 that one is probably true 14:08 or "I'd say you cry like a baby, but lets not insult babies, shall we?" 14:08 once again I'm reassured that avoiding gyms like the plague is the right approach 14:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:10551 14:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:10 anything to avoid spinal surgery 14:12 Pinkbeast i've been slowly setting up a small gym in our basement. not keen on going to a public gym ever again. if i blow out my back again, i dont want it to happen in a public place 14:12 not fun 14:13 i do isometric and resistance band crap at home but i admit i really liked the machines 14:13 you don't have to be as attentive that you're doing the right thing 14:14 the bands force you to do the exercises correctly. that's a good thing 14:14 its harder, but better 14:14 yeah yeah yeah you sound like my pt 14:14 :) 14:14 here, lemme jab my thumb into that knot *just so* 14:15 Luckily I don't have a basement so I can dodge that exercise risk right there :-) 14:15 (given the relative positions of Cambridge and sea level, if I did have a basement, I'd have an underground swimming pool) 14:16 hahah 14:17 that's what sump pumps are for. surely the dutch can help you out 14:17 the motivation for the home gym is for my kid. she's really into gymnastics, we're going to start some strength training together 14:18 i've been doing pushups, etc. with my daughter -- demoralizing even though she does 4:1 for me 14:18 i was stretching with her but she told me it makes her sad :-) 14:18 hah 14:19 'come talk to me when you're my age, see how you feel then smart ass' 14:37 darn, all those rings and scrolls of charging, no magic spread through my xorny body 14:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 11784 points, T:12464, killed by a panther 14:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:82383 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:82694 14:57 alright crap game, continually inundating me in alhoons has convinced me to go back and try to kill vecna 14:58 ARGH it lolthed me 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:82930 15:02 can't believe the alhoon lolthed me 15:04 its possible 15:04 summon nasties will sometimes bring in a demon lord 15:05 that's vanilla behavior if i recall 15:05 i was going to try a game leaving vecna but rng has convinced me to go back and try to kill him 15:05 that one level was alhoon, master lich, alhoon, lolth 15:07 lolth is actually short for "lol, that alhoon just summoned a demon lord" 15:07 i guess i cant complain, one of the few demon lords i had a good chance of surviving 15:08 if he'd grazzted me that would have been it 15:08 that wouldnt have happened. graz'zt it a demon prince 15:08 *is 15:08 i can't keep the differences straight 15:08 those dont get gated in or summoned except by other demon princes 15:09 all i know is there is grazzt, and then are the rest 15:10 ok, we'll see if i can do this without a rubber chicken 15:11 i wonder if demonbane or mjollnir will hit harder 15:11 against a demon ? demonbane for sure 15:12 against vecna 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:83549 15:15 well that totally wrecked all my equipment 15:19 but you won 15:19 you can fix the thingsa 15:19 -a 15:21 after 200 turns digging out from the lesser lichstorm he left me with 15:22 no eye goddamit 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:83750 15:27 next version, vecna will drop *something* 15:27 eye or hand 15:27 sweet 15:27 what does the hand do? 15:27 qt, i'm fuzzing with rr 15:27 krm26, dunno yet 15:27 i'll use ad&d as a guide 15:28 half phys damage and drain res whilst wielded as god intended 15:28 i think the hand grants giant strength 15:28 one thing it does anyways 15:28 you apply the hand and it cuts off one of yours and permanently grafts on (like eating food)? 15:28 perhaps 15:29 will be easier to just carry it in inventory 15:29 should be giant strength but only in your main hand, not your off hand :-) 15:29 brb 15:29 or your off hand, since you are better at cutting off things with your main hand 15:30 K2 for 5e: http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:eye-and-hand-of-vecna 15:34 it would be cool to have specific items which would reduce the sp cost for a spell, like the hand instead of casting finger of death would halve its spell cost or something 15:38 verdict bdw was mjollnir was substantially better than demonbane vs vecna 15:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:00 -!- qt has quit [Quit: brb] 16:02 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1828 points, T:2303, killed by a fire elemental of Chih Sung-tzu 16:30 is it possible to wish for a bone shield of light/mobility/reflection? or are they mandatory-metal 16:46 i don't think you can 16:46 yeah all of them say invalid material in wizmode 16:50 amateurhour thanks! 16:51 so i fuzzed with rr recording, got a dmonsfree crash 16:51 yay rr 16:52 link to paxed's rr debugging thing in case you hadn't bookmarked it: https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nethack/debugging-with-rr.html 16:52 thanks 16:52 i have paxed in private chat, he's shown me a couple things 16:53 nice 16:53 so now, lets playback 16:55 oh god its starting from the beginning 16:55 it went several million turns hah 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6509 points, T:4042, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:59 gdamn my arm hurts :) 17:01 nooo k2 don't feed rr your lifeblood straight from your arm just to fix dmonsfree errors 17:01 actually you know what, on second thought, it's okay. i don't mind. it's worth it 17:03 good cuz its too late 17:04 i can only imagine what paxed is telling you in that private chat 17:04 "now take the rr ritual knife and let it drink deeply from your arm. now is not the time to hesitate" 17:05 "you have already recited the chant. do it NOW or it will be too late, and you'll doom us all" 17:05 it was worse 17:05 you have no idea 17:06 part of the ritual involved bare feet and legos strewn upon the ground 17:09 i stepped away for a bit, paxed is away 17:09 HOW DO I SKIP TO THE END 17:09 lol 17:10 i think the hand of vecna will confer sick res 17:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:19 qt did you ever come up with any solutions to what you discovered yesterday? 17:20 also, paxed may be interested in your extra logging, i may have mentioned how cool it was 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:84103 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:84104 17:23 \o/ 17:24 one more blessed scroll that takes too many keypresses to turn into a mammoth summoner...maybe i should get rid of green slimes with class P 17:25 should i roll the dice on green slimes or shocking spheres with random 2 from blessed? 17:29 use it for R 17:29 oh good call 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:84113 17:30 wasn't thinking about them since i've been running something with magic missile for the first time in a long time 17:30 nice 17:30 both green slimes and shocking spheres are fairly easy to kill at range, esp if you have magic missle 17:31 my smoky is gain level so my level is also huge -- fun to be able to kill black dragons in 3 rounds 17:32 i'm predicting my final random demon boss will be tiamat since i'm wearing sea dsm so her drop will be useless 17:33 hahah 17:36 K2: it's not a good logging system, it adds variables to all the relevant functions to pass the name of the calling function and uses some non-portable thing like __builtin_FUNCTION() to pass the function name. i wouldn't want it to see the light of day 17:37 it's extremely ugly i just did it to get something that i could see 17:37 works as an MVP zip it and ship it 17:37 i just heard that for the first time like 2 days ago 17:37 [14:12] that log should have the line numbers too. (__LINE__ define) 17:37 [14:13] also __FILE__ 17:37 ^ qt 17:38 i believe in you 17:38 MVP meaning minimum viable product i mean 17:38 yeah 17:38 its not ugly, its beautiful 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:84537 17:38 let it be free 17:39 i was going to send it to you the other day but now that i know your intentions with it i don't want to 17:39 do it 17:39 give in to your desires 17:39 it's too late we've already sold it to the customer and informed them we can ship by friday 17:39 and today is friday 17:39 hah 17:44 does evilhack have disintegrators yet? 17:45 and deteriorators 17:45 and discombobulators 17:45 plus supercolliders, which transmute the material of your items 17:46 oops! your plate armor is made of gold! 17:46 those were (are?) OP af in splicehack iirc 17:46 a monster that transmutes item materials I mean 17:47 you remember ogomt? 17:47 sounds like a familiar nick 17:47 he made some early contribs to evilhack 17:48 he made a 'midas' patch 17:48 croesus would turn objects to gold 17:50 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Ogmobot/Midas_Touch_Patch 17:51 > Golden gauntlets that turn wielded items into gold. These belong to Croesus. 17:51 and yet I see no epic things occurring when punching with them 17:55 every monster you punch instantly turns into a golden statue 17:55 that would be sick 17:55 that would be awesome 17:55 baller 17:55 <--- filling in for Umbire 17:55 i remember chatting with k2 about having ludious have a 50% chance of croesus, 50% chance of midas 17:56 einhorn and finkle, finkle and einhorn... finkle IS eihnorn! Einhorn IS FINKLE!! 17:57 croesus IS midas :P 17:58 wait is that really true? like in myth? 17:58 no 17:58 i thought croesus was a real person 17:59 king of lydia 17:59 midas well add that patch K2, yolo 17:59 real inasmuch as something from 2500 years ago can be considered real 18:00 the einhorn/finkle patch 18:00 paxed says there's no way to fast forward or skip in rr replay that he knows of 18:00 2500 years ago would be like year -478 which is 478 years before the big bang so isn't real 18:00 so still replaying to the end... 18:01 might take awhile 18:02 hey it just finished 18:03 7.78 mil turns 18:07 ok i dunno what to do now 18:07 lol 18:07 its that really vague dmonsfree backtrace 18:08 reverse-continue doesnt do anything but stop at the end 18:08 see which monsters die, watchpoint on their hp and breakpoints on the various monkilled or whatever functions imo 18:08 then go backwards till it gives other clues 18:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 shit i'm back at the beginning 18:09 read paxed's commented session for inspiration :P 18:09 i am 18:09 yeah if there's no breakpoints or watchpoints it'll just keep going back to the start 18:09 f me 18:09 :') 18:09 damn 18:10 started over... 18:10 at least i'll know when it stops 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1725 points, T:2103, killed by a soldier ant 18:11 qt did you have probs with rr? 18:11 now that i know what to do, this is pretty straight forward 18:11 how do you know what breakpoint to set? 18:11 i dont 18:11 oh wait you can just break on m_detach 18:11 not in this particular case 18:11 or when the counter changes 18:12 and then examine each monster that gets killed to see if it seems funky 18:13 have you tried rr again? 18:13 can't use rr on macos 18:13 can't use it in a vm on macos 18:13 o m g 18:13 qt, wipe your mac and install *nix 18:13 can't install linux on m1 yet, not easily at least 18:13 oh wait 18:13 even if you could would rr work? 18:13 i doubt it 18:14 qt, you want an account on my wizmode box? 18:14 aosdict has one 18:14 yesssss give qt root access 18:14 then qt can give me it 18:14 yes, excellent 18:14 sure, okay 18:15 being invisible I can't walk into shops, but I could teleport in! Will that anger the shopkeep? 18:15 no 18:15 but you need to be able to get out again, they won't let you out 18:15 I can teleport out 18:16 I'm too hunky for a mummy wrap 18:18 qt i made your account, send me a public key (dont password auth it) 18:19 okay give me a second i'm on a work call 18:19 no rush 18:20 got a lamp wish to burn but don't know what to use it on 18:20 bleargh 18:20 wish for another lamp 18:20 mabe the djinni will be a dick and it won't be a problem 18:20 when in doubt, blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl 18:20 think about it: it's a permanent light source you can get from a wish, that you could maybe even get a wish from! 18:20 that's pretty awesome 18:20 with the pegasus in the game, can you wish for a blessed figurine of a greater pegasus? 18:21 um 18:21 maybe? 18:21 because mine disintgrated himself on a black dragon on vecna's level. took his polished barding with him :-( 18:22 got knocked off and he took all of one round to kill himself 18:22 bloody pegasi 18:22 level 30 and thinks it is fun to kill black dragons 18:23 they are brave 18:25 qt 18:25 [18:25] find out which monsters were supposed to be deleted. i would use "watch iflags.purge_monsters" 18:25 amateurhour ^ 18:26 and ^ qt 18:26 and ^ everyone 18:26 and other people that dont even play nethack 18:26 22:08 < amateurhour> see which monsters die, watchpoint on their hp and breakpoints on the various monkilled or whatever functions imo 18:27 im not good with words but i was basically saying that 18:27 good idea to watchpoint the flag 18:27 * K2 nods 18:27 [18:27] then find out the monsters pointers, and watch their hp, like "watch ((struct monst *)0x5596efca3370)->mhp" (or whatever the pointer is) 18:27 hahah just now amateurhour 18:28 heh 18:29 I am knackered so gonna hit the hay, good luck with figuring it out! 18:29 thanks 18:29 cya later 18:30 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 18:35 qt i'm leaving in about 30 min for a neighborhood party, if i'm not around, email or pm me your pub ssh key 18:35 i can't remember how to get my public key 18:36 it's on my yubikey 18:36 make a new one 18:36 sudo ssh-keygen 18:36 wait this is it i think https://termbin.com/3x8v 18:36 does that look right? 18:37 yes 18:37 i hope no one ever gets your private key now lol 18:37 they would have to steal my keychain 18:38 and i am so physically repugnant that nobody will ever get close enough. it's secure 18:39 sent you a pm 18:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 399 points, T:1046, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:54 see you all later. krm26 good luck with the game! 19:03 thx! probably letting it sit until later tomorrow, getting too cavalier :-) 19:03 and my last death was SO HUMILIATNG 19:08 cavalier? have you been playing a lot of knights? 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1127 points, T:2554, killed by an elf zombie 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 762 points, T:3050, zombified by an elf zombie 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5449 19:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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