00:02 does ?oSM work on croesus? 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:28365 00:12 I don't think so 00:12 did it? 00:14 didn't bother. 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 19769 points, T:9583, killed by a soldier ant 01:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:06 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:06 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 05:05 big Graz'zt gamble starting 05:06 K2 I still seem to get some damage from psionic attacks, even though I am an alhoon 05:08 threw a sack with wands at Graz'zt, it seems like one broke, must have been glass 05:08 damn, he didn't pick it up 05:15 alhoon is dead, boulder destroyed, but Graz'zt still thinks the boulder is there which is not helpful. 05:29 "Graz'zt stole the blessed +6 Demonbane." 05:29 ^ K2 isn't that a bug? 05:30 How can a demon handle silver 05:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:79880 05:36 pheeeeeeeeeew 05:37 nice detail: one of my monster spells destroyed his shield of reflection, so I could get in some magic missiles before he stole my robe and bril helm 05:40 but Graz'zt really shouldn't be able to steal silver items 07:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 22463 points, T:10812, killed by a death ray 08:13 cant use it/wield it, but can steal it still is the current way things work 08:13 grats on killing grazt 08:13 grats grazzt 08:13 grzzzzzzt 08:29 thanks! but it seems inconsistent to me that he can steal 08:29 can't even kick something silver as a demon 08:30 you poly'd into a demon (or crowned infidel) yeah, I did specific things for that 08:32 so in vanilla, if you're poly'd into a mind flayer, a hostile mind flyaer can damage you with its mind 08:32 'A wave of psychic energy pours over you! It locks on to your latent telepathy!' 08:32 ^ that bit 08:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3898 08:32 i think I did a thing for illithid vs that 08:32 i need to check 08:32 if alhoon isnt a part of that, they prob should 08:33 I still get messages about being protected, but there seems to be some damage 08:33 I could be wrong 08:34 pline("A wave of psychic energy pours over you!"); 08:34 if (mtmp->mpeaceful 08:34 && (!Conflict || resist_conflict(mtmp))) { 08:34 pline("It feels quite soothing."); 08:34 } else if (is_illithid(youmonst.data)) { 08:34 Your("psionic abilities shield your brain."); 08:34 the 'is_illithid' bit 08:34 alhoon isnt part of is_illithid 08:35 weird, I do get the "psionic abilities shield your brain" message 08:35 hmm i stand corrected 08:36 alhoon has MH_ILLITHID flag 08:36 ah 08:36 therefore it's part of is_illithid 08:37 after 'your psionic abilities shield your brain' it should stop there 08:37 the damage part is part of another 'else if' 08:37 test mode, engage 08:38 so far so good - A wave of psychic energy pours over you! Your psionic abilities shield your brain. 08:38 me as mind flayer, vs hostile master mind flayer 08:39 now lets try alhoon 08:39 yup same, i'm shielded 08:39 no damage 08:42 so I was wrong? 08:42 seems so 08:42 good to have that confirmed, thx 08:43 ... DIRGE \o/ 08:43 sweet i got my own double pirhana bones and managed to not make them triple 08:43 heh 08:43 DIRGE \o/ 08:43 so now, in regards to stealing 08:43 yes 08:43 please make him not steal silver 08:43 it does make sense that a monster that can steal, should not attempt to steal objects made of a material they hate 08:44 DIRGE! 08:44 in xnethack, nymphs have an aversion to iron... I wonder if aosdict set up something like that already 08:44 prob not 08:53 can sokoban generate on aphrodite level? 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 170 points, T:733, burned by a fireball 09:01 was the aphrodite right after the oracle rebatela? 09:11 K2: nope 09:11 but good catch 09:12 however that would prevent a nymph from stealing a lot of artifact weapons... 09:15 their problem 09:56 aosdict yup. it would pretty much defeat the purpose 09:56 taking an object vs using it - two different things 09:56 graz'zt will steal demonbane, but he cant use it against you 10:06 noooooo 10:06 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:07 lemme think on it 10:21 apart from the hated material thing, I think Graz'zt could use some fine tuning. His stealing frequency is pretty ridiculous at the moment. 10:27 well, he has just the one steal attack. he's just fast 10:27 i'm not changing that, he's supposed to be very difficult 10:28 a shame you didnt play splicehack when it was new. antigulp had made a demon lord that had multiple steal attacks like a nymph. multiple seduce/steal at high speed. if you couldnt paralyze it immediately and kill it while it was immobile, you were basically dead 10:29 I think I used a boulder fort against that 10:30 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/splicehack/dumplog/1527042012.splice.txt 10:30 ^ that was my experience 10:30 lord of the foocubi 10:31 yeah sort of the Graz'zt experience 10:31 hah not even close 10:31 not very far away I would say 10:31 that dumplog unfortunately is missing the seduce bits 10:32 graz'zt doesnt seduce and take multiple objects 10:32 oh multiple objects :-) 10:32 yeah that is worse 10:32 and, you killed him 10:32 and its not your first time either 10:32 so, good job :) 10:33 * K2 hands mobileuser a clean dish 10:33 I kinda worked out a strat, but it still depended on getting lucky 10:34 unprepared, he will just steal your main weapon, some vital armor, and boom dead 10:35 my monster form destroying his shield of reflection was a stroke of luck 10:36 mobileuser: yeah I went down stairs from oracle and it's a nymph room. It looks like that level (and obviously SOKO is always the one after oracle). I wasn't sure if it was just a nymph special room or if they can both be same level 10:36 i know it can be on big room so i suppose whta's the difference. just never seen it 10:37 good question, I don't know 10:38 badly need an altar and none before that so kinda sucks. I hate getting aphrodite before sokoban 10:41 aphrodite level is its own special level, it cant co-exist with other special levels 10:41 what you saw was a special room w/ nymphs 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 732 points, T:1401, killed by a giant ant 10:44 k2: thanks 10:44 yeah i had never seen before so i kinda thought that... going back! 10:44 so big room isn't a special level? 10:44 there is no rule for this shit 10:45 it is 10:45 where soko can coexist... 10:45 the stairs to soko, possibly 10:45 brb 10:46 yeah the stairs. what did you think i was talking about? playing the game on the aphrodite level? I'm not THAT fuckd up... 10:46 hahaha! 10:47 just imagine that 10:47 ok 10:47 well the level under the oracle is aphrodite in my game 10:47 so i'm guessing the upstairs to soko are here 10:48 yeah, must be 10:51 so much better to be giant on this level lol 10:52 oh no 10:52 what? 10:52 i'm on the soko upstairs but she (aphrodite) is right next to me 10:52 i'm so screwed 10:52 oof 10:52 i can go up, but i'm going to have to live in sokoban 10:53 soko has a fair amount of resources, you may find a wand or potion that will help 10:53 true 10:53 cancel aphrodite, prob solved 10:53 teleport would be sweet 10:53 oh shit she followed me u[p 10:53 up 10:53 aphrodite steals you wand of cancellation! 10:53 good, she cant go far then 10:54 ugh 10:54 she escapd 10:54 after stealing everything 10:54 how was she on the stairs 10:54 ugh 10:54 i thought i was 10:54 she's such a dick 10:54 aaaad she just confused teleported off the level 10:54 i have no armor 10:54 actually i had a helmet 10:55 i thought i was all set in soko with the no teleport (but i wasn't on the stairs!!) 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5052 points, T:5165, killed by a bolt of cold 10:56 !lastgame 10:56 !lastgame 10:56 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1646840350.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1646830894.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1643273143.evil.html 10:56 that's obviously her 10:58 K2 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Alvietron/nethack/dumplog/1646841091.nh.html 10:58 I wonder if that could happen in evilhack :b 10:58 it could yeah 10:59 lol 10:59 but that's that player not paying attention. had 6 tile spaces they could have safely moved to without issue 10:59 maybe they didnt realize what they were looking at 11:00 K2 they were generated on lava? 11:04 how? you start on the upstairs 11:04 not next to it 11:06 but how did they get "Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 zorkmids." then? 11:08 can your pet start on the upstairs maybe? 11:09 no you are right, they must have moved into it on turn 1 11:10 samurai starts fast 11:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:15 yup 11:16 omg this diet sucks 11:16 i'm hangry 11:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:31 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 12:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:38 at this rate, 0.8.0 wont be ready before june 13:38 or maybe I say 'add the new races, hold off on the new role' 13:39 i definitely want to add new content though before june 13:39 d a m m i t 13:40 new role before june is perhaps too ambitious 13:40 oh i know it is, there's no way 13:40 unless i go the slex route and dont give 2 shits about quality 13:43 Hm? 13:45 you see the image of amy before you, beckoning down the path with a fleecy finger. 13:47 i will release 0.8.0 before june, it will have something added to warrant the bump from .7 to .8 13:47 or maybe it wont and i call it 0.7.2 13:47 i have 7 weeks and 4 days to figure it out 13:48 may 1st is my deadline 13:48 there are a lot of good fixes in dev right now that should be experienced by players this June :) 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Mon Elf Mal Neu) consumed animal products (kobold) for the first time, on T:5328 14:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:27 I have "transgressed" and no amount of saccing seems to improve the situation 15:27 I must have done something very bad 15:31 never mind... 15:33 ? 15:37 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4 points, T:59, killed by a jackal 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 0 points, T:43, killed by a cadaver 16:19 mobileuser, have you been bad? do you need to be punished? 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 40 points, T:414, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 16:28 heh 16:28 after much hacking and slashing I am back to devout 16:28 :: backscroll:: you need to come out with .8 AND have it ready for junnethack thanks . where do i donate 16:32 game is so fun k2 thank you 16:32 i hate it but i can't stop playing it so ya did something right lol 16:33 evilhack is fun because k2 plays a lot too lol 16:34 "The Archon wields a crystal long sword named Sunsword!" 16:35 uh oh 16:35 nice 16:35 no 16:35 not nice 16:35 i think it's 50/50 no? 16:35 lol 16:35 tame it 16:35 rebatela I am an alhoon 16:35 Sunsword can instakill me 16:35 oh still that game. crazy 16:36 btw I still haven't found taming 16:36 you can take off unchnanign and then what happens? back to giant 16:36 ? 16:36 have you done that? 16:36 you can write taming in theory with maxed luck 16:36 yeah, but I am heavily invested in alhoon now 16:36 oh yeah i get it 16:36 just curious what happens 16:37 what if you die like this and it leaves bones, are you in alhoon form? 16:37 yes, if I don't manage to polypile taming I may try to write it 16:37 asking for a friend... 16:37 ... 16:37 lol 16:37 I don't know 16:38 have to think now how to deal with this archon, I don't have a good ranged attack 16:39 paralyze it 16:39 from a distance? 16:39 give it a sandwich 16:39 maybe it likes candy bars 16:39 tell it a joke, I hear archons have a witty sense of humor 16:39 Thy shoelace is undone! 16:39 muhaha 16:40 heh 16:40 offer to wash its dishes 16:40 i've never worn unchanging for a long time in polyform 16:41 even in vanilla now that i think of it 16:41 seems dangerous 16:41 like that's the whole advantage of poly itslike lifesaving 16:41 ballsy 16:42 fuck alhoons tho 16:42 i hope you die mobilueser and every other alhoon ever 16:43 :v 16:43 ok 16:43 dont die 16:43 alhoons not good. almost impossible to root for. i'm doing my best 16:44 mobileuser knows i root for him 16:46 just not for alhoons ;) 16:47 alhoons can suck it 16:47 right umbire? 16:47 lol 16:48 yet to meet one with this Rogue 16:48 i just want to make it clear what my issues are iwth... its a myhical creature.... 16:48 they suck 16:49 the best is it to luck out an NOT get one between medsua and castle 16:49 otherwise.... actually yeah that's like the end of the game 16:50 rebatela after wasting six wishes, and no alhoon hat, my new strat was "if you can't beat them, join them" ;-) 16:51 so funny 16:51 also, K2 fixed that, no more alhoons before the castle 16:51 oh nice 16:51 yeah 16:51 it was too much 16:51 unless you get unlucky with a polytrap of course 16:51 yeah 16:51 is that current? 16:51 yes 16:51 i haven't seen one in a bit 16:52 yeah 16:52 well I am just going to ignore the archon and annotate the level 16:52 at least I know where sunsword is now 16:59 "You mime applying something." lol 17:00 getting tired 17:01 have you do vlads? 17:01 done 17:02 you done the invocation? 17:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 17:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:14 !tell rebatela I have done the whole dungeon, just grinding for more resources before I start the asc run 17:14 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 17:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 781 points, T:2343, killed by a gnomish wizard, while being terrified of a ghost 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3383 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 972 points, T:3390, killed by Mr. Akalapi; the shopkeeper 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2320 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 10810 points, T:2456, poisoned by a killer bee 18:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5925 18:58 -!- sw has joined #evilhack 18:58 -!- sw has left #evilhack 19:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 19:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:05 -!- epinephrine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:06 -!- epinephrine has joined #evilhack 21:06 -!- epinephrine has quit [Changing host] 21:06 -!- epinephrine has joined #evilhack 21:08 -!- epinephrine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 2071 points, T:2542, killed by a human mummy 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a soldier ant), on T:4721 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5008 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 3765 points, T:5652, killed by Ron's ghost, while sleeping 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 238458 points, T:28990, killed by a boojum 22:24 D: 22:24 that run sucked. I'm glad to be done with it. 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 4106 points, T:3645, killed by a piranha 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical bone crude dagger on an altar, on T:4648 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 3956 points, T:4821, poisoned by a snake