01:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9765
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08:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 2157 points, T:2962, killed by a soldier ant
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09:23 <rebatela> debating maxing luck and writing magic misile blind 
09:24 <rebatela> not something i usually do in evilhack because i never have a marker early game but this is 0:95, shouldn't take TOO much ink if i max luck out 
09:24 <rebatela> and i need a way to kill kaen. still no mr so i want eyes 
09:27 <rebatela> 33% chance iirc and it's 10-19 ink each try... seems worth it ( but i know it can go badly lol) 
09:30 <amateurhour> do you know sleep? 
09:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22754
09:37 <rebatela> yeah i know sleep, and have free action. I could probably melee. My AC /hp have sucked (but getting better)
09:38 <rebatela> i want magic misisle regardles
09:38 <rebatela> i have a magic lamp too. so I COULD wish for spelbook of poly and get a bunch of the spells i need 
09:38 <rebatela> have helm of brilliance so i can cast 
09:38 <rebatela> i'm gonna want magic missile regarless of how i kill kaen. so i think i'm gonna try to write it 
09:39 <rebatela> is there a level of luck beyond "very lucky" ? it goes to extremely right ? 
09:40 <rebatela> thank god for the wiki. so yeah i'm only at very lucky i gotta get to extremely but just got gifted gloves 
09:40 <rebatela> i think most people assume writing spellbooks as a non-wizard is impossible. It's really not 
09:40 <rebatela> but you gotta max that luck out 
09:41 <rebatela> i do it all the time in vanilla especially a spell like sleep or knock that is super cheap 
09:43 <aosdict> very lucky -> extremely lucky -> exaltedly lucky -> incomprehensibly lucky
09:45 <rebatela> lol
09:45 <rebatela> it does go to extremely though right?
09:45 <aosdict> yeah
09:45 <rebatela> dammit i'm still "very lucky" 
09:46 <rebatela> out of create monster wands (that's another spell i need)
09:48 <rebatela> so many clovers. i guess killing all those shop keepers pissed off my god 
09:49 <rebatela> aight i'm gonna try to write this book if i melt down jarlearl style y'all know what happened
09:49 <aosdict> lol
09:52 <rebatela> 3rd try
09:52 <rebatela> almost like the 33% was spot on...
09:52 <rebatela> used 44 ink... not ideal, but worth it 
09:52 <rebatela> to have a ranged attack 
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:59190
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
10:03 <mobileuser> OK what the actual fuck
10:03 <mobileuser> ^ K2 lol lol lol
10:03 <amateurhour> ?
10:03 <mobileuser>  I wasted SIX castle wishes on NOT getting dragonbane
10:04 <mobileuser> 50% chance per try
10:04 <rebatela> did the soko luck thing happen? i lost 3 wishes 
10:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1
10:04 <mobileuser> so the general opinion was that Dragonbane had already been generated somewhere
10:04 <amateurhour> oh, gratz on finally getting it :)
10:04 <K2> oh damn lol
10:04 <K2> the RNG just REALLY hates you
10:05 <aosdict> 1/64 > 0
10:05 <mobileuser> rebatela no that was long after soko and I followed the rules there
10:05 <rebatela> i really like the new wishing rules but yeah obviously you can flip a coin six times in a row tails or whtaver 
10:05 <K2> well... you have it now
10:05 <mobileuser> amateurhour I don't actually need it anymore :-)
10:05 <K2> rofl
10:05 <K2> dragonbane, whatevs
10:05 <rebatela> i need it
10:05 <K2> *tosses in the wastebasket*
10:05 <rebatela> put it in the swap chest k thanks
10:05 <mobileuser> I have become Mobileuser the Alhoon now
10:05 <mobileuser> lol rebatela
10:06 <mobileuser> right, going afk for a bit, see you later :-)
10:06 <K2> lol
10:06 <K2> translation - gonna go do dishes
10:06 <amateurhour> maybe it's karma for wielding weapons and using armour
10:06 <K2> oooh
10:06 <mobileuser> nearly, take out trash time
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10:10 <rebatela> even the goddamn tins in this quest are xorn meat 
10:10 <amateurhour> monk quest SUCKS
10:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:26085
10:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26094
10:18 <rebatela> i know he just left, but you almost need dragonbane as a giant 
10:19 <rebatela> i wonder why he doesn't need it 
10:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 3185 points, T:6474, killed by a nightmare
10:19 <rebatela> maybe casting reflection ? It's so nice to be able to wear a different amulet 
10:26 <rebatela> bah just found spellbook of magic missile of course 
10:30 <rebatela> and another one!
10:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 40 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth
11:24 <rebatela> have magic lamp. should i try for eota? 
11:24 <rebatela> neferet would smoke me right now if she comes 
11:24 <rebatela> i think i'm gonna hold on see what the castle wand is 
11:25 <rebatela> want dragonbane too...  (although that's theoretically availble with altar work)
11:27 <rebatela> thinking about wishing for polymorph too. i think i have titan medusa it would be so nice to charm 
11:27 <rebatela> need lots of spells 
11:28 <rebatela> and have multiple detect food books... 
11:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pony, on T:29832
11:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31132
11:45 <rebatela> oh sweet another lamp 
11:49 <rebatela> and more detect food spellbooks! well that will save a wish 
11:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:15554
11:50 <rebatela> awww yeah 
11:50 <rebatela> that's the prize he needs 
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 363258 points, T:32620, killed by a giant centipede
11:52 <rebatela> oh i died
11:52 <rebatela> sigh
11:52 <rebatela> back to the dishes 
11:55 <aosdict> everyone in this channel washes so many dishes
11:57 <K2> because we arent dirty filthy heathens like you
11:57 <K2> you with your disposable plasticware and plates
11:57 <K2> for SHAME
11:57 <K2> lol
11:58 <K2> new artifact - The Dirty Dish of Mobileuser
11:58 <K2> if you apply it over a sink, it gets washed and you can use its powers
11:58 <K2> as you eat it gets dirty
11:58 <K2> the dirtier it gets, the less powers it has
11:59 <amateurhour> make it lawful and give it slotless MR so lawfuls won't cry as much
11:59 <K2> hahah
11:59 <amateurhour> lawful is awful, that's the campaign slogan
12:11 <aosdict> K2: looking at an old design discussion in this channel involving chameleons randomly turning into their own base form and losing their powers - was that ever changed?
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12:17 <K2> that still happens
12:17 <K2> you attack a chaemleon in <whatever form>, drop it to 0 hp, instead of it dying, it reverts to base form and wont change again
12:18 <K2> in base form it's weak, but it can still fight
12:23 <rebatela> that will be nice bones for someone 
12:23 <rebatela> 2 lamps, helm of brilliance / speed boots/ dex gloves all enchanted. boh 
12:24 <rebatela> marker 
12:24 <rebatela> F
12:24 <rebatela> i didn't realize it was a giant centipede that was beating on me 
12:24 <rebatela> !lastgame
12:24 <Hecubus> rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karibou/evilhack/dumplog/1646574149.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1646050406.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1643273143.evil.html
12:25 <rebatela> i keep dying dumbly. haven't acscended since october i tink 
12:25 <rebatela> thinkl
12:26 <aosdict> K2: right, but was it changed such that killing a chameleon in non-base form cancels it, or is it still the implementation qt complained about where it just might randomly turn into itself at full health and get cancelled
12:34 <K2> i believe that was fixed
13:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 183 points, T:1221, killed by a guardian naga, while paralyzed by a monster
13:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 7 points, T:379, killed by a newt
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13:20 <mobileuser> rebatela I am no longer a giant, but an alhoon. that is why I didn't really need dragonbane.
13:20 <mobileuser> although it will give me some extra options
13:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "+3 blessed greased dragonbane", on T:17615
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13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4291
13:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:59974
14:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:3446
14:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2658 points, T:7678, killed by the wrath of Loki
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14:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 10380 points, T:11085, killed by a gnoll hunter
14:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7 points, T:115, killed by a water moccasin
14:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 88 points, T:303, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse
15:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Sam Gia Mal Law), 23816 points, T:12364, killed by a fire ant
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16:03 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8df7dd67d3c4...1971f8ebd183
16:03 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 1971f8e - Fix: partial revert of commit 654b1ce.
16:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) murdered OrangeTabby, his faithful large cat, on T:23528
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) murdered SchwartzPferd, his faithful nightmare, on T:23806
17:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:25916
17:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25921
17:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:26844
17:48 <mobileuser> !tell rebatela I am no longer a giant, but an alhoon. that is why I didn't really need dragonbane.
17:48 <Hecubus> I'm on it, mobileuser.
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18:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 516 points, T:1252, killed by a rabid dog
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 353 points, T:890, killed by a gnoll hunter
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful yellow light, on T:9
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18:36 <eraserhead97> K2 coolios - just joined
18:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27533
18:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 565 points, T:1331, killed by a giant bat, while praying
18:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 210 points, T:693, killed by Ms. Urignac; the shopkeeper
18:46 <eraserhead97> K2 too funny - Snickersnee dropped after 2 tries - your suggestion worked ^^
18:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a magical pair of snow boots entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:774
18:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27908
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18:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1811
19:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2970 points, T:3453, killed by a soldier ant
19:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 975 points, T:2921, killed by a rothe
19:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 127 points, T:742, killed by a dart
19:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful rock piercer, on T:15
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19:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1481 points, T:3760, killed by a white unicorn
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3311
19:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4611
19:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2803 points, T:4637, quit
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19:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:19493
20:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:19650
20:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:19773
20:06 <Umbire> DIRGE
20:11 <K2> eraserhead97 woooop
20:13 <K2> hahahah DIRGE \o/
20:23 <eraserhead97> ... and SHAMBLING HORRORS 8^P
20:25 <eraserhead97> I forget, there was something that was like a undead or lich-like Illthid in EH - forgot what they were called
20:25 <K2> alhoon
20:25 <eraserhead97> yah - that byatches are nasty
20:25 <K2> nast-E
20:25 <eraserhead97> s/that/those
20:28 <eraserhead97> So a "regular chromatic dragon" dropped some scales, I think - those won't work for Giants, right?  Only Tiamat's?  (I cleared a throne level before Medusa that dropped lots of D scales, but I don't think any are useable)
20:30 <K2> there arent any regular chromatic dragons in evilhack
20:30 <K2> the only set of chromatic dragon scales that can ever appear would come from Tiamat
20:31 <eraserhead97> ah - I got confused - I think they were just shimmering
20:31 <K2> cant wish for them either
20:31 <eraserhead97> that's good to know
20:32 <eraserhead97> so, normally, besides Tiamat, are there other ways to improve chest-armor for giants?
20:37 <K2> no
20:38 <K2> chromatic scales are the only body armor a giant can wear. exception is giant samurai, they come with large split mail
20:38 <K2> only giant samurai can wear that
20:38 <eraserhead97> kk - just found Medusa's Lair - I seem to remember her being buffed in EH somehow
20:38 <K2> you could wish up a set of large splint mail
20:38 <K2> she is
20:38 <K2> mithril large splint mail of drain resistance is a popular choice
20:39 <K2> swap mithril with bone/stone if your samurai is a caster
20:41 <eraserhead97> "mithril large splint mail of drain resistance" - wow - zero chance of coming up with that on my own - TY
20:41 <eraserhead97> ok - found the wiki on M on the EH page
20:41 <K2> much lighter than the stock spint mail you start with
20:41 <K2> splint
20:41 <eraserhead97> the "drain resistance" touch is v.nice
20:42 <eraserhead97> I think I remember Vlad being drain-happy in EH
20:42 <K2> doesnt hurt to have a look at what gear other players have ascended with
20:42 <eraserhead97> ah - smart
21:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:24654
21:19 <Umbire> https://alt.org/nethack/userdata/U/Umby/dumplog/1645783664.nh366.txt
21:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed McPanther's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5692
21:42 <Umbire> Finally done... now to chores and dinner
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22:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3631
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4033
22:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4129
22:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5208 points, T:4175, killed by an orc-captain
22:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:22, killed by a djinni
23:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:31195
23:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Sam Gia Mal Law), 200252 points, T:31254, poisoned by a locust, while praying
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