00:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/719ecf860465...c03701d8210b 00:22 [EvilHack] k21971 c03701d - Fix: wumpus movement over water/lava and open air in Vlad's cavern. 02:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:42676 04:24 it's all happening in this cursed game 07:50 mobileuser :( 08:03 well, I found another one :-) 08:04 no Dragonbane at Medusa, it's a needle in a haystack 08:06 @e?alhoon 08:06 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravisible 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 08:08 i believe in you 08:09 For fun I think I will go for plan C 08:09 If you can't beat them, join them 08:10 nethack pvp 08:11 mobileuser lies in wait, the unsuspecting player explores the dungeon. mobileuser strikes 08:11 hahaha 08:11 'who's doing the dishes now!?' 08:12 'the dishwasher returns!' 08:12 Mobileuser the wizard douses you in a torrent of acid! 08:13 muhahah 08:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I didn't plan to have pets, but I have no control over monster spells used 15:41 Would that you did, it'd be cracked 15:45 for some reason I am hardly making a dent when hitting spectres. will probably need a fire weapon, easier said than done at the moment. 15:47 oops, nearly killed my pet with stormbringer 15:52 You need silver for them I think? 15:52 @e?spectre 15:52 spectre ( ) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical | Alignment: -5 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, nopoly, stalker, passes-bars, vegan 15:52 there's also that 15:56 I have the same problem with ghosts. 15:56 yeah i thought you needed silver to hit spectres 15:56 or blessed 15:57 but the silver doesn't do any extra damage? 15:57 oh I didn't know that applied to spectres too 15:57 I can hit them, but it's only 1 or damage each hit 15:57 * 1 or 2 15:58 some weapon of lightning would also help 16:00 That's just a ghost thing in general, I think 16:00 most stuff just fwooshes through but you still get blessed bonus damage 16:00 bone and silver deal damage as normal iirc 16:01 you're a monk so you need bone or silver gauntlets of whatever 16:01 i thought silver did extra damage 16:01 ohh wait i'm thinking of shades 16:01 ye 16:06 yeah shades don't like silver 16:07 ok I can try with silver gloves, see what happens 16:07 oh damage as normal 16:08 well let's see what weapons are lying around in the castle 16:13 "The doppelganger thrusts his bone crude short sword of fire." haha! gimme that! 16:27 weird, my unblessed silver gauntlets are not connecting with ghosts 16:28 ^ K2, qt possible bug? 16:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:12174 16:29 that assumes I'm correct about silver hitting ghosts normally 16:29 but hmmm 16:29 Umbire I'm pretty sure that silver weapons hit ghosts 16:30 I mean same 16:30 but the silver gauntlets only connected after I blessed them 16:30 and not doing extra damage, just wanted to try that 16:31 Ah 16:31 time to go back to stash to do something with that orcish short sword of fire 17:00 OMG I keep creating pets, tame barbed devil and tame Aleax among others 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an elven dagger on an altar, on T:3273 17:05 Nice 17:18 my prepped bone crude short sword of fire is doing the job against the ghost community. hopefully I will have Angelslayer later. 17:20 to be continued... 17:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:41 !tell mobileuser \o/ 17:41 Will do, K2! 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1004 points, T:2183, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "xxx", on T:5619 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 415 points, T:1038, killed by a small mimic 18:35 k2 why did you do that 'reversion' of the ceiling_hider thing instead of just running git revert b8efdfc? 18:36 and then removing the M1_CLING flag from mimics, if you want them not to be able to cling to the ceiling 18:36 the sole purpose of giving them that flag is to let them cling to the ceiling, so if you don't want them to do that you should remove it 19:06 but they arent a hider 19:06 i dont think they are supposed to cling to the ceiling 19:08 they are 19:09 that's the only purpose of the M1_CLING flag. also there's a comment that says something like "a ceiling clinger like a wumpus or mimic won't fall down holes" 19:09 hmm 19:09 so i'm pretty sure it's intentional 19:09 i'm so confused 19:09 if you don't think it makes sense the right solution is just to remove the M1_CLING flag from mimics imo 19:10 i think that's literally the only thing that flag does, allows monsters to cling to the ceiling 19:11 is there anything in your deep D&D lore knowledge that would account for it? like they can cling to the ceiling in order to mimic a chandelier or something? 19:11 or cling to the wall in order to mimic a... painting? idk what sticks to a wall lol 19:12 lot of things a mimic can mimic that'd fit, just not many of them in an average nethack variant 19:12 i dont recall mimics ever doing anything on the ceiling 19:13 in ad&d 19:13 i could be wrong though 19:14 all that matters is that we can ride our pet wumpus in vlad's 19:14 while eating king cake 19:16 A mimic is amorphous, able to alter the external configuration of its form at will, and the more intelligent ones can even assume the shape of a partition wall, overhanging arch, or rough rock wall; this feat is accomplished by the creature's mode of travel, which involves extending its strong pseudopods, which exude a sticky "glue", and pulling itself along ("unsticking" its own glue at will), traveling on walls and ceilings as easily as it can on 19:16 floors. 19:16 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimic_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) 19:17 Ecology of the Mimic, Ed Greenwood 19:17 so who was telling me awhile back that they were seeing mimics spawn in vlads cavern in the air tiles 19:17 we both thought that was wrong 19:18 I feel like that might've been mobile? 19:18 Probably wrong though 19:18 i feel used 19:18 I mean it's a reasonable misunderstanding 19:19 K2: if you think it's weird remove it, i just think the right way to do that is to remove the M1_CLING flag from mimics 19:19 like I said, not a lot of stuff that a mimic imitates in NetHack 19:19 much less stuff that could be hanging on the wall/ceiling 19:19 qt if i did that, that would be wrong 19:20 it'd be better to remove the mimic bit from (is_clinger(ptr) && (ptr)->mlet != S_MIMIC) 19:20 in ceiling_hider() 19:21 why would that be better? 19:22 because mimics actually are a ceiling hider 19:23 we've been duped 19:23 i don't think so 19:23 ceiling hider is monsters that, if they're hidden, it's on the ceiling 19:23 e.g. in do_earthquake, any hidden monster that's a ceiling hider prints a message like 'foo is shaken down from the ceiling!' 19:24 gdammit 19:25 is_clinger is supposed to be "can the monster cling to the ceiling?" 19:25 and ceiling_hider is supposed to be "does the monster hide on the ceiling?" 19:27 i think just 'git revert c03701d b8efdfc' is the solution 19:28 though, can mimics conceal themselves as objects while they're on the ceiling/over air/over water? 19:28 that should probably change if so 19:33 * K2 sighs 19:33 Yeah, that's the thing what made it puzzling 19:33 so actually 19:34 even after reverting those two commits, it doesn't happen right now, mimics seemingly won't spawn on the air 19:34 but i think that's because of a bug in goodpos 20:04 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #91: Clingy mimics - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/91 20:08 thanks qt 20:08 noooice 20:08 i was reading the one new commit when you force pushed 20:08 sorry the only change was to remove extraneous whitespace 20:09 browser said 'this doesnt exist fool' 20:09 heh 20:09 but see, I knew there'd be a force push 20:09 it's your way 20:09 yes 20:10 I sometimes think you force push just to do it. no real change, you just go 'git push -- force' 20:10 like pots163 dying via falling off a saddle 20:10 i just love the rush it gives me 20:10 i knew it 20:11 though recently it's been feeling less like a high and more like something i have to do to make it through the day 20:11 i think i'm hooked bad K2... i don't know what to do 20:11 i force push 20, 30 times some days 20:12 uh oh 20:12 your body is getting too used to it 20:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±34] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c03701d8210b...9387bf45b7dd 20:12 [EvilHack] entrez 33e3fee - Revert "Fix: large/giant mimics spawning or travelling where they shouldn't." 20:12 [EvilHack] entrez 5b0b174 - Revert "Fix: wumpus movement over water/lava and open air in Vlad's cavern." 20:12 [EvilHack] entrez f71e526 - Handle air/liquid when choosing mimic disguise 20:12 [EvilHack] k21971 9387bf4 - Merge pull request #91 from entrez/clingy-mimics 20:13 oooof i forgot to strat the rice 10 min ago 20:13 brb 20:13 *start 20:15 rice strats for evil when 20:16 what's a rice strat? is that a real thing? 20:16 i found this video but it provides little to no insight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0DO1qpeUkQ 20:17 its like some sort of minecraft frag video 20:22 lol 20:25 im very please it's real 20:25 pleased* 20:25 but i wish i knew what it was 20:26 my daughter wants me to install minecraft on her chromebook 20:26 i am reluctant 20:26 it seems to have something to do with a guy having a tnt head 20:26 why are you reluctant? 20:26 because gamez rot your brainz? 20:27 i know how addictive computer games can be 20:28 you want her to play nethack don't you? 20:28 i dont want my kid getting into that. nethack is one thing, its the kind of game you can walk away from for a year and come back to where you left off 20:29 first person shooters or in realtime action games, that's different 20:29 i know how I was, chances are good she'd become the same way 20:31 isn't minecraft mostly about building stuff? 20:31 it used to be 20:31 it's a sandbox, it is what you make of it 20:31 well, i guess maybe not since there are minecraft frag videos 20:32 if i let her play games like that, i'd have to enforce time limits 20:33 its bad enough she's hooked on gymanstic and knitting vids on youtube kids 20:33 heh 20:33 i know, could be worse 20:33 now that she's 10 though... it may be time for nethack 20:34 my parents didnt let me play video games as a kid, except the Intellivision my grandmother owned 20:35 and look how i turned out. let that be a warning to you 20:35 i never had my own computer growing up, we had a family computer 20:35 time shared with my dad 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 258 points, T:866, killed by a boulder 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 206 points, T:645, killed by Mr. Sablja; the shopkeeper 21:19 I used to play on an nes but looking back I was really hooked on it 21:20 the legend of zelda... saving your progress and coming back to it was so revolutionary 21:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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