00:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 406 points, T:393, killed by a mountain dwarf
00:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 197 points, T:631, killed by a brown mold
00:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Hea Cen Mal Neu), 65 points, T:324, killed by a poisonous corpse
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03:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:27697
06:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (leprechauns), on T:30317
06:40 <krm26> i guess that means freedom is gold :-)
06:48 <mobileuser> indeed, even worse, I have the golden ring of P'hul ;-)
06:49 <mobileuser> my only source of MR at the moment
06:52 <krm26> well-genocided
07:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the centaurian priest of Camaxtli, on T:3445
07:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:44784
07:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44801
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07:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4098 points, T:5089, poisoned by an orcish arrow
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09:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 1056414 points, T:47266, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander
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09:12 <K2> oh damn
09:13 <mobileuser> oof :-(
09:14 <K2> !lastgame krm26
09:14 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1645989559.evil.html
09:15 <K2> he must not have seen 'The salamander wraps its arms around you!'
09:16 <K2> cuz he attacked it next round
09:18 <Umbire> probably didn't :/
09:18 <mobileuser> yeah very easy to miss if you're playing on autopilot
09:18 <K2> i have a msgtype=alert setup for those events
09:18 <Umbire> the MSGSTOP in my rcfile should-- yeah
09:18 <mobileuser> I suspect he has too, but
09:18 <Umbire> not that I plan to approach them to begin with, if I can help it anyway
09:18 <mobileuser> he is often doing some mathematics by heart while playing
09:19 <K2> mobileuser he doesnt
09:19 <K2> looking at his rc
09:19 <K2> there's alert bits in here for eels
09:19 <mobileuser> oh that's surprising...
09:19 <mobileuser> ah
09:19 <K2> but not for salamander
09:20 <mobileuser> update coming soon I expect
09:20 <K2> yeah
09:21 <K2> rofl i dont either
09:22 <Umbire> me either
09:22 <Umbire> there should be a way to catch-all that and include salamanders
09:22 <Umbire> but for now it's easily remedied
09:26 <Umbire> Do frost salamanders try to drown you also?
09:27 <Umbire> I forget
09:30 <mobileuser> no, at least not that I ever noticed
09:31 <K2> no, you cant drown someone in ice
09:31 <Umbire> I figured since you could melt the ice and all, but then I seem to remember frost sals drowning 
09:32 <Umbire> been a minute since I actually cleared that branch, still moving stash in that game
09:32 <K2> its just regular salamanders that will try to drown you (in lava)
09:32 <Umbire> bet
09:32 <Umbire> # MSGTYPE=alert "The (couatl|.*eel|kraken|python|salamander) .*you!"
09:32 <Umbire> ^testing as a catch-all alert for being grabbed by stuff what can drown you
09:37 <qt> but it will catch "The python programmer curses at you!"
09:37 <qt> huge problem, we all know how many times that message shows up in the game
09:37 <Umbire> many are saying this
09:38 <qt> also "The heel of your shoe squeaks badly, it sounds like wwwyyeeeeyyou!"
09:40 <qt> I have "^.* (grabs|swings itself around) you!" in mine
09:40 <qt> idk why the ^ is in there, seems pointless
09:40 <qt> same for the .*, i think just "(grabs|swings itself around) you!" would do the same thing
09:41 <qt> since it doesn't have to match the complete message
09:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:31861
10:32 <mobileuser> K2 there is no special message for monk at level 20 (telepathy)
10:33 <K2> unplayable
10:33 <mobileuser> heh
10:34 <mobileuser> hmm what does it actually mean
10:34 <K2> Welcome to experience level 20.  You feel a strange mental acuity!
10:34 <mobileuser> yeah right :-(
10:34 <mobileuser> damn
10:34 <mobileuser> I was expecting ESP
10:34 <K2> that is esp
10:34 <mobileuser> useless! :b
10:34 <K2> DIRGE
10:35 <qt> that message didn't shop up for you mobileuser?
10:35 <qt> s/shop/show
10:35 <mobileuser> I already had intrinsic telepathy
10:36 <K2> that's why
10:36 <mobileuser> nice for vegetarians I guess
10:37 <mobileuser> water walking at 23 the next goal
10:39 <K2> you become jesus
10:39 <mobileuser> hahaha
10:40 <K2> :P
10:40 <mobileuser> I hope that is not the message :-)
10:43 <K2> it isnt
10:43 <K2> but maybe it should be hah
10:43 <K2> 'You feel like Jesus!'
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16:11 <mobileuser> the downstairs is in the room with the mind flayer larvae, really???
16:12 <mobileuser> evil, evil
16:16 <mobileuser> nursery now filled with boulders
16:16 <mobileuser> \o/
16:30 <qt> baby boulders?
16:31 <mobileuser> uhm... about those babies....
16:34 <K2> hah
16:34 <K2> E-VEEL
16:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:36003
16:54 <mobileuser> no chaotic first artifact gift?
16:56 <Umbire> probably superceded by the fact you can get mundane weapons 
16:56 <Umbire> "mundane" rather
16:56 <Umbire> as gifts
16:56 <mobileuser> so different from vanilla
16:57 <Umbire> that's assuming I'm right
16:58 <mobileuser> ^ K2?
16:59 <K2> no, monks dont have a set first sac gift
16:59 <K2> artifact rather
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17:01 <mobileuser> K2, this is about the alignment
17:01 <mobileuser> "Your first gift will be a co-aligned artifact that does not hate your current form, if any such artifacts are available."
17:01 <mobileuser> ^ vanilla
17:03 <K2> frost brand is unaligned
17:03 <K2> so i dunno
17:03 <K2> could test this with vanilla and see if same thing happens
17:05 <mobileuser> I did name Sting, don't know if that matters. I would think not.
17:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 311 points, T:1445, killed by a giant spider
17:19 <Umbire> It doesn't
17:19 <Umbire> or else forcing Stormbringer for elves wouldn't work in vanilla
17:20 <Umbire> But with Evil you can get armor and weapons gifted before your first arti so that's a bit different
17:21 <qt> that's pretty weird mobileuser
17:22 <Umbire> Trying to remember my Rogue's first gift...
17:28 <mobileuser> there was also secespita in a shop, but again it shouldn't matter. unless a gift can be chosen that already exists and there is a fallback to the next?
17:29 <Umbire> possibly? no idea
17:29 <qt> no, it shouldn't work that way
17:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Gia Fem Law), 816 points, T:1647, killed by a copper arrow, while sleeping
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17:32 <qt> mobileuser: you start up a game and then immediately save so often lol
17:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had a stone quarterstaff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:37942
17:33 <mobileuser> bleh
17:34 <mobileuser> artifacts please
17:34 <mobileuser> yeah qt, people wanting dishes done all the time, nightmare :b
17:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:38370
17:38 <mobileuser> I give up for now
17:43 <mobileuser> qt  scanned the irclog, Frost Brand was really my first artifact gift
17:43 <mobileuser> * I scanned
17:43 <qt> it is very odd
17:43 <qt> do any other artifacts exist in the game that you didn't get as a sacrifice gift?
17:44 <mobileuser> like I mentioned, secespita and I named Sting
17:46 <mobileuser> of course I can't be sure if rust monsters etc. have been eating all the other chaotic weapons
17:48 <qt> it doesn't actually try to match the alignment of your character, it tries to match the alignment of the spot you're standing on
17:50 <qt> so if it was looking at the wrong spot (like u.ux was changed, somehow...? idk) it might give you Frost Brand, since that's the first unaligned artifact in the list
17:51 <Umbire> What altar is this on anyway, since qt's bringing up alignment spots
17:51 <qt> hmm but that can't be right because if it were looking at the wrong spot, it should be doing so consistently, and it wouldn't have made it to the 'get a gift' stage
17:51 <qt> Umbire: it's the one in orctown, converted from unaligned earlier in the game
17:52 <Umbire> Right, so you're saying that because it was originally unaligned mobile got Frost Brand
17:52 <qt> i was thinking that might be relevant but similarly, if the altar had the wrong alignment, it shouldn't have made it to the 'get a gift' stage...
17:52 <Umbire> I still feel it's related to the "got a non-artifact gift" thing
17:53 <qt> that uses different language in the livelog, so if it were something like "a random sword was generated and just so happened to be generated as an artifact" it would say "entrusted to" instead of "bestowed upon"
17:54 <Umbire> I mean in the sense of what's counted as a "first gift"
17:56 <qt> oh
17:56 <qt> yeah actually i bet you're right
17:56 <qt> that makes sense
17:56 <Umbire> that was my first inclination anyway
17:56 <qt> i mean, it seems weird to set it up that way but i bet you're right
17:56 <qt> let's see...
17:57 <qt> yes, you're right Umbire, good call
17:57 <Umbire> \o/
17:58 <mobileuser> good find!
17:58 <qt> that seems like a weird choice
17:58 <qt> why would receiving a pair of gloves mean it's less likely to get an artifact gift in the future?
17:58 <mobileuser> bedtime for me
17:58 <mobileuser> see you!
17:58 <Umbire> probably a caveat made in the process of allowing non-artifact gifts to begin with
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17:58 <Umbire> I'm less miffed about the probability than I am about the first artifact not being coaligned
17:59 <Umbire> which I hadn't remotely considered 
17:59 <Umbire> the artifact probability MIGHT have an explanation I can't recall
18:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dwa Mal Neu), 244 points, T:1066, killed by a piranha
18:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1081 points, T:2202, killed by a piranha
19:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
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20:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 291 points, T:1721, zombified by a gnome zombie, while helpless
21:20 <Umbire> K2: Magic harp range is dependent on XL in vanilla, right?
21:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 494 points, T:2203, killed by a bugbear
21:54 <K2> no idea
21:55 <Umbire> Looks to be according to the code
22:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant crocodile, on T:9573
22:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 12084 points, T:9815, killed by a yeti
22:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:8264
22:39 <bouquet> had to send my main computer in for repair :(.  This temp machine is more powerful. The nethack graphics are amazing!
22:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a horned devil, on T:11967
23:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (small mimics), on T:14514
23:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:16192
23:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:16301
23:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 40714 points, T:16634, petrified by a cockatrice
23:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 1337 points, T:3001, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping
23:38 <Umbire> bouquet: sounds good
23:56 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/a8bc34610be1...60d752faba46
23:56 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 60d752f - Wearing gray dragon scales/scale mail or being a gray dragon can resist cancellation.
23:57 <Umbire> cancel culture res
23:57 <Umbire> finally
23:58 <Umbire> (now no one else ever has to make that joke)
23:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dwa Fem Neu), 200 points, T:450, killed by a piranha