00:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Medusa, on T:77922
02:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:37733
02:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37734
02:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:37893
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05:30 <mobileuser> "Fix: ammo with object properties used against player (or mon vs mon)."
05:30 <mobileuser> uh oh
05:32 <mobileuser> For next version? I expect it will make the game considerably harder.
05:45 <mobileuser> or at least make it even more important to get resistances/fooproofing done early
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06:01 <NetSysFire> K2: i found another bug!
06:02 <NetSysFire> a gnome zombie opened a door but i could only see the door and not behind it because its around a corner, yet the game announced a gnome zombie opened a door
06:02 <NetSysFire> might be vanilla, too
06:04 <NetSysFire> https://i.imgur.com/mL3Li1m.png i cant even see the gnome zombie, which i marked with a red arrow since i placed the corpse there and let it revive
06:05 <NetSysFire> instead it should say "Something opens the door!"
06:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4491
06:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3003 points, T:4944, killed by a gnome zombie
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06:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a mace entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:4839
06:28 <NetSysFire> damn you
06:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:5172
06:29 <NetSysFire> damn you stop with these gifts
06:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:7354
06:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a club entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:8951
06:38 <NetSysFire> i dont need all that
06:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 4567 points, T:10368, zombified by an orc zombie, while helpless
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08:25 <K2> hmm
08:25 <K2> hi all
08:25 <krm26> good morning
08:26 <K2> o/
08:29 <Umbire> Hi.
08:29 <Hecubus> Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack
08:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Rog Orc Mal Cha) murdered Mia, his faithful kitten, on T:957
08:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 517 points, T:1206, killed by a flint stone
08:56 <K2> amateurhour say somethin
09:00 <amateurhour> somethin
09:00 <Hecubus> amateurhour: Message from K2 at 2022-02-08 23:12 EST: when you get a chance, check out commit ee150e0, see if that passes your fuzz test
09:04 <krm26> K2: I need the lightning damage I didn't want for Keolewa live on hardfought :-)
09:04 <amateurhour> maybe after work
09:09 <K2> amateurhour cool
09:09 <K2> krm26 sorry, that's for next version
09:10 <K2> i'm not making anymore updates to 0.7.1
09:10 <krm26> noooooooo
09:10 <K2> even if i were to add it right now, it wouldnt apply to your current game. object is already made
09:17 <krm26> noooooooooooo
09:19 <krm26> i forget -- is base helm of speed material something like copper, so not rustmonsterable?
09:20 <amateurhour> it was nice to read the irclogs and see qt's reaction to the whack usage of a global
09:20 <krm26> i don't think lower-ranked soliders should ride higher-rank ones
09:20 <K2> steel
09:20 <krm26> ok, cool
09:20 <K2> amateurhour yeah, it was interesting
09:21 <K2> it's probably safe to assume that any of my commit from the first year, especially those that came from grunthack, are suspect
09:21 <amateurhour> was expecting more unbridled rage
09:21 <amateurhour> yes anything that came from grunt or spork is sus
09:21 <amateurhour> both of them have e z crashes
09:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of warning", on T:39748
09:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:39749
09:22 <amateurhour> if u add autorecover for grunt and spork u will find them all quite fast :^)
09:22 <K2> hah
09:23 <K2> I wonder if I should remove autorecover from evilhack
09:23 <amateurhour> what, why? also didn't even realise it had it
09:23 <K2> so its not abused
09:24 <amateurhour> it's way way better than grunthack and sporkhack is
09:24 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/5821f87e78daff3955bb7fd90892d027995ec1a5
09:24 <amateurhour> you'd need at least 200iq to even figure out a way to crash on demand atm
09:24 <K2> cool
09:24 <K2> hah 'manor'
09:24 <K2> manner
09:24 <K2> bwahahah
09:29 <krm26> uuuuugggh i hate tackling ludios without reflection, so dicey
09:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a large shield entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:26713
09:45 <krm26> goddammit Ishtar you piece of crap
09:45 <krm26> that thing is heavier than everything else i'm wearing put together
09:48 <K2> gonna make a patch, when your deity gifts you something, the game will scan irc for complaints. deity will react accordingly :P
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10:14 <mobileuser> "rate this gift from your god (1 - 10):"
10:15 <K2> only option is 10
10:23 <cbus> 11
10:24 <qt> K2: why don't items get IDed before the livelog so that we can know what they are? they get IDed right after it anyway
10:24 <Hecubus> qt: Message from K2 at 2022-02-08 23:00 EST: The elven queen wields an elven bow (30 aum)!  The elven queen shoots 6 elven arrows at the wolf!  The 1st elven arrow misses the wolf.  The 2nd elven arrow hits the wolf!  The elven arrow burns the wolf!
10:25 <qt> nice job
10:25 <qt> on oprops thing
10:27 <K2> thanks qt, you too!
10:27 <K2> we did gods work last night
10:27 <amateurhour> thanks amateurhour u r my favourite
10:27 <K2> well that's a given. doesnt need to be said :)
10:28 <amateurhour> Suddenly, the dungeon collapses.
10:28 <amateurhour> Can't place branch!
10:28 <amateurhour> set off a fuzz earlier and got that, can't look into it further till work over
10:29 <K2> eeeeehhhh
10:29 <K2> that's not good
10:29 <K2> i havent seen that error in over a year
10:30 <amateurhour> backtrace https://0x0.st/oXpG.txt
10:30 <amateurhour> got it open in lldb still but back to work for a bit sry
10:30 <K2> no worries, thanks
10:30 <K2> you copy of evilhack is up to date with master?
10:31 <K2> not that's i've made any edits to mklev
10:35 <K2> huh... after 500 tries, it still couldnt find a place to put branch portal?
10:36 <K2> max size of a map is what... 79x20?
10:36 <K2> 80x21 maybe? somewhere in there
10:36 <K2> hell, just make max tries 2000, that would cover every available tile space and then some
10:40 <amateurhour> it might not be as simple as it failing 500 times, more likely it's somehow a scenario for which it cannot succeed
10:43 <K2> minefill.. i wonder if this was the level where vecna's portal forms
10:48 <qt> i think the problem is that place_lregion thinks there are rooms in the level
10:48 <qt> but it's minefill
10:50 <qt> it looks like it's not using the 'place a region where the branch stairs can go, then plop them down' logic (place_lregion -> put_lregion_here -> place_branch), it's using the 'there are rooms in this level, put it in one of the rooms' logic (place_lregion -> place_branch)
10:50 <qt> which means nroom is nonzero even though it's minefill
10:50 <qt> i don't know where nroom is set but that seems wrong based on the comments
10:50 <K2> hmm
10:55 <qt> it seems like nroom is reset by clear_level_structures(mklev.c) and then gets incremented by makerooms each time it makes a room (for "regular" levels)
10:56 <qt> but makemaz("minefill") comes right after clear_level_structures... so I don't know why nroom would be nonzero
11:00 <qt> hmm... taste's very strange!
11:04 <K2> like a baby inside a king cake
11:10 <qt> it seems like nroom is also incremented when finishing up level generation and checking that everything is connected, even on mines maps without real rooms
11:11 <qt> but still, i don't see why it would have a value at the point it does in the backtrace
11:11 <qt> it's basically set to 0 right before that
11:17 <K2> weird
11:20 <qt> okay actually i seem to be approaching this from the wrong direction
11:21 <qt> nroom seems like it's consistently nonzero at this point in level creation, even for minefill levels
11:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Inf Orc Fem Una), 888 points, T:1708, killed by a rothe
11:23 <amateurhour> alrighty I'm free enough now to spit out any variables you want
11:24 <amateurhour> nroom is 7
11:24 <qt> wow somexyspace is full of magic numbers
11:25 <amateurhour> smexy space
11:26 <qt> oh it seems like that's some special evilhack magic numbers
11:26 <qt> maybe this is the source of the problem
11:26 <amateurhour> sounds bad
11:26 <amateurhour> and the code should feel bad
11:29 <qt> hmm
11:31 <amateurhour> anything u wona no just hmu
11:32 <K2> amateurhour - blue or green?
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11:33 <amateurhour> I flipped a coin and it told me to pick blue
11:33 <amateurhour> sorry I meant rolled a d2
11:34 <K2> awesome, that's what I 'wona no'
11:35 <amateurhour> nethin 4 u SecondK
11:35 <K2> lol
11:35 <K2> i had to read that twice
11:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +5 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:46276
11:36 <qt> i think the problem here is the river
11:36 <K2> qt, I vaguely remember adding extra numbers
11:36 <K2> like when forges were added
11:36 <K2> ah the river
11:36 <K2> of course
11:37 <K2> map is made -> river is placed -> cant place branch where it wanted to because there's a van parked down by the river
11:37 <qt> i think it's a bit more complicated than that
11:38 <qt> i think the river is interacting with the way the map joiner detects which areas are disconnected 'rooms'
11:38 <K2> probably
11:38 <qt> and it causes areas to be marked as 'rooms' which may be invalid for placing branch stairs
11:38 <K2> huh
11:40 <qt> that's just my guess right now though
11:40 <qt> but the river is being considered the 'foreground terrain' and normal room considered 'background terrain' in the function that identifies which areas are rooms
11:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:46586
11:41 <rebatela> bah
11:41 <rebatela> pickaxe of course
11:42 <krm26> doh
11:44 <qt> huh actually that doesn't seem right
11:46 <qt> oh i was reading x19 as WATER (19) when it's actually ROOM (25)
11:47 <qt> so actually that confusion cleared up, i think you're right k2
11:47 <qt> i was wrong, i think you hit the nail on the head
11:47 <qt> it picks a 'room' region that has subsequently been filled with water
11:47 <K2> hrm
11:47 <qt> easy fix would be to just not put a river on the level with branch stairs
11:48 <K2> so its the rivers in the mines
11:48 <K2> ok... and that would only be one place. the first level of the mines
11:48 <K2> which right now only happens 50% of the time
11:49 <qt> yeah i think that would solve it
11:50 <K2> cool
11:50 <qt> something like this i guess https://termbin.com/x772
11:51 <qt> this was a fun adventure, i went down like 3 or 4 dead ends misunderstanding what was happening
11:51 <amateurhour> dnum is 2, is that the mines or gehennom?
11:52 <qt> it's definitely mines since this
11:52 <qt>     frame #11: 0x00000001006d8fc4 evilhack`makelevel at mklev.c:820:13
11:52 <qt> is inside an if (In_mines())
11:52 <K2> thanks qt
11:52 <qt> it's confusing that there are 'rooms' even in mines levels
11:53 <qt> but i guess the way mines levels are generated, they aren't actually contiguous until the 'rooms' are joined?
11:53 <amateurhour> that's a great spin on it, I don't bring you headaches I bring you *adventures*
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11:54 <amateurhour> would that branchlev guard work for Vecna's portal as well? or is that just not a problem
11:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:27050
11:55 <qt> idk, are there 'rivers' (of lava) generated in the hell levels in a similar way?
11:56 <qt> where they're placed posthoc after the level is generated/joined?
11:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 939 points, T:2156, killed by a giant spider
11:56 <rebatela> man, i'd say 100 times per game i typo 'i' and think i'm seeing my ending inventory after dywypi... 
11:56 <amateurhour> I'm not sure how the gehennom levels work at all
11:57 <rebatela> i'm always so relieved
11:57 <qt> it seems like they don't use the exact same process at least
11:57 <qt> mkrivers only makes the mines rivers
11:57 <qt> but something similar happens after initial level generation but before fixup_special maybe it could happen? idk
11:59 <qt> rebatela: i've had things like that happen before
12:00 <qt> where you think 'oh man, it's all over' and then realize you were given a stay of execution
12:00 <qt> definitely a relief
12:00 <K2> the lava rivers in the hellfill levels in gehennom are done via the gehennom.des file
12:02 <qt> oh yeah i see that
12:02 <qt> should be ok then
12:03 <amateurhour> sweet
12:03 <K2> work vent time - over 2 weeks ago, I informed the entire company that MFA (multi-factor authentication) would be enabled for all company email accounts. provided instructions (w/ pics) on how to register methods of authentication so when the time comes, you're good to go. deadline is this monday, so far only 14% of employees with email accounts have done what i asked
12:03 <K2> weee
12:04 <K2> so come monday, i'll get calls like 'how come I cant check email on my phone? it wants a code'
12:04 <amateurhour> passive aggressive email time
12:04 <K2> i just sent out the 'friendly reminder' email
12:05 <amateurhour> unfriendly reminder next
12:05 <K2> hah no
12:05 <qt> then menacing threat
12:05 <K2> next will be 'please reference the two emails i sent earlier. thank you, have a nice day'
12:06 <K2> 'but i cant check my email...'
12:06 <K2> 'please reference past email. thank you'
12:06 <K2> 'but...'
12:06 <K2> 'thank you, have a nice day'
12:06 <amateurhour> if ur having problems accessing ur emails then email IT
12:07 <K2> perfect
12:07 <K2> MFA only kicks in if you're not on our work network
12:08 <K2> so if you're in the office, good to go
12:08 <K2> brb
12:08 <qt> can they use a yubikey
12:09 <qt> as a second factor
12:09 <K2> no
12:09 <K2> not currently
12:10 <K2> i could enable that though
12:10 <qt> yubikeys are cool
12:13 <rebatela> dammit i'm invibislbe (no more kiting wraiths)
12:14 <qt> if even cavern levels have rooms, I wonder what levels don't
12:14 <qt> mazes maybe?
12:14 <K2> right now it's just cellphone text, alt email, and security questions
12:15 <K2> any more complex and some users will have a fit
12:16 <qt> are security questions actually a second factor?
12:17 <amateurhour> what sort of security questions do they get asked
12:17 <amateurhour> > What does it mean for a machine to have an “air gap”? Why are air gapped machines important?
12:17 <qt> sad that you are locked out of even TOTP by all this strangely-triggered epilepsy :(
12:18 <amateurhour> popular music tv program "top of the pops"?
12:18 <qt> yes that's what I meant
12:18 <qt> k2 could be a rock star by now if not for the users dragging him down
12:19 <amateurhour> I've always found that initialise weird because the T is short for time-based but the OT is one-time
12:19 <amateurhour> initialism
12:20 <qt> TBOP
12:20 <qt> would be better since it sounds like tea bop, seems like it would be pretty fun to say
12:20 <qt> vs tot pee, which sounds like something you need to clean up
12:20 <amateurhour> TBOTP is the one true choice
12:20 <amateurhour> sounds like urine from a tea-making robot
12:21 <qt> manneken pis but tea comes out and it's an internet of things device
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12:22 <amateurhour> that sounds like one of those things where you don't believe it's real but then you google it and someone actually made it
12:22 <qt> tweets 'my bladder is bursting' at you when the tea is ready
12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 553 points, T:265, killed by a hobbit
12:24 <rebatela> omg i just lost another wish being unlucky
12:24 <rebatela> TWICE.. maybe i should be checking first?
12:24 <rebatela> especially since i have eyes of overworld and a wand of enlightenment
12:24 <rebatela> i think a magical eye did that 
12:27 <rebatela> WTF sometihing is wrong
12:27 <rebatela> i just lost another wish this time i checked first and it said you are lucky
12:27 <rebatela> now it says i'm very unlucky 
12:27 <krm26> ouch
12:27 <rebatela> i've not gotten 3 wishes. i don't think it's me. One time i had killed a priest 
12:28 <rebatela> but this doens't make sense i just sacrfficed and got clovers and then sac'd and got nothing
12:28 <rebatela> zapped enlightenemtn it said i was lucky and could pray 
12:28 <rebatela> > unfortunately nothing happens 
12:28 <rebatela> for the 3rd fucking time
12:28 <qt> huh
12:28 <qt> and now it says you are very unlucky?
12:28 <rebatela> yes
12:29 <rebatela> but i know i checked before 
12:29 <amateurhour> did you kill the quest leader?
12:29 <rebatela> not yet
12:30 <qt> how long before wishing did you zap enlightenment?
12:31 <qt> isn't there some monster with a gaze that can make you unlucky, or something like that? could you have run into one of those guys in the meantime?
12:31 <rebatela> magic eyes can do it
12:31 <rebatela> i figured that's what happened with the 2nd time 
12:31 <rebatela> so this last time i zapped enlightenment right before i wished
12:32 <amateurhour> not long before it looks like in the ttyrec
12:32 <rebatela> it wasn't like "extremely lucky" or whatever the maxed is but it was like very lucky i think 
12:34 <qt> hmm you zapped it, you were 'lucky', and then you killed two giants (one of which was a caster) and a vampire and a leprechaun and then you wished
12:34 <qt> i don't get it
12:36 <amateurhour> maybe soko luck penalty still applying somehow? there's a hole in final floor and rebatela crossed over boulders
12:36 <qt> ah ha
12:36 <rebatela> ugh
12:36 <qt> that must be it...
12:36 <rebatela> that's my escape route from neferet you see...
12:36 <rebatela> not to give all my tricks away or anything 
12:37 <rebatela> doesn't matter since i only have one wish and i absolutely need dragonbane. i guess i can still wish for eye and get drgonbane from altar/find speed boots 
12:37 <rebatela> but losing 3 wishes sucks 
12:37 <rebatela> i bet it is the boulders 
12:37 <amateurhour> the schroedinger's cat is out of the box now, we know your secrets
12:37 <krm26> at least they were all bonus wishes, right?
12:38 <rebatela> i'm sorry?
12:38 <rebatela> i've only made one wish for the dumbass alhoon hat 
12:39 <krm26> oh i thought that was a pre-castle wand, sorry
12:39 <rebatela> no i splatted that game in the lava in soko 
12:39 <rebatela> that level with the one square of lava?
12:39 <rebatela> but at least i don't play with paranoid bs... 
12:40 <rebatela> where the lava is decoratvive 
12:40 <rebatela> tive
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12:41 <qt> i don't understand why the sokoban rules would still apply
12:42 <qt> a player-made hole shouldn't affect the 'level is finished' detection, even if it's made before all the original holes are filled
12:42 <qt> which must not even be the case here
12:42 <qt> the way it should work is 'you fill all the premade holes, the sokoban rules are permanently disabled on the level' -- making a hole after that shouldn't matter
12:43 <qt> and it ignores player made holes anyway
12:43 <qt> very odd
12:46 <rebatela> i think it's the walking over boulders part
12:46 <rebatela> because it's a penalty if you do that before the level is solved
12:46 <qt> wait doesn't it prompt you 'you can walk over the boulder, do so?' when sokoban rules are in effect?
12:46 <rebatela> it does
12:46 <qt> were you getting those prompts?
12:46 <rebatela> no
12:46 <qt> no, right?
12:47 <qt> so it shouldn't have hit your luck...
12:47 <rebatela> otherwise i wouldn't have done it 
12:47 <rebatela> shouldn't being the operative word lol. but something did 
12:47 <qt> oooohh
12:47 <qt> i see it
12:47 <qt> this is a bug for sure
12:49 <qt> https://termbin.com/d2lp this must be it
12:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:41387
12:49 <qt> it's unconditionally damaging luck when in sokoban
12:49 <qt> even if the rules no longer apply (which sokoban_guilt checks)
12:49 <qt> k2 ^
12:50 <qt> damn rebatela you got burned hard by this, that really sucks :/
12:50 <rebatela> 3 wishes
12:50 <rebatela> it's ok. i'd care much more if it was something i did. bugs are bugs 
12:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:41405
12:51 <rebatela> i make soko like my home base after it's all solved... so i'm not expecting luck penalties 
12:52 <rebatela> i was climbing over those boulders plus the ones on the stairs 
12:52 <rebatela> so i bet every time i typed m, i got the luck penalty
12:53 <qt> yeah that's what it looks like
12:53 <qt> and it's double the normal luck penalty for sokoban violations, for some reason
12:55 <amateurhour> the reason it's double is K2 wanted to turbopunish giants for having it easy
12:56 <qt> but it doesn't give double penalty for moving onto a boulder with the prompt, only for moving with m prefix
12:57 <qt> i guess this is a good punishment so maybe it's wontfix
12:57 <amateurhour> lol
13:00 <NetSysFire> qt: mind looking at another potential bug?
13:01 <NetSysFire> https://i.imgur.com/mL3Li1m.png i cant even see the gnome zombie, which i marked with a red arrow since i placed the corpse there and let it revive
13:01 <NetSysFire> yet it said "the gnome zombie opens the door"
13:01 <NetSysFire> it shouldnt expose the monster name here imo
13:02 <qt> hmm
13:02 <qt> that's weird
13:02 <NetSysFire> why am i always finding the weird bugs?
13:02 <NetSysFire> maybe because i am weird
13:02 <K2> thanks qt
13:03 <qt> it should only print 'the foo opens the door' if (cansee(mtmp->mx, mtmp->my) && canspotmon(mtmp)) is true
13:03 <qt> meaning you can see the spot where the monster is, and you can see or sense the monster
13:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:28514
13:05 <qt> was this on hdf NetSysFire?
13:05 <NetSysFire> yup
13:05 <NetSysFire> lemme find the game
13:06 <qt> why do you keep quitting so early
13:07 <NetSysFire> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1644404007.evil.txt
13:07 <NetSysFire> qt: because i dont get the start i want and i am patient enough to not startscum directly
13:08 <NetSysFire> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/ttyrec/2022-02-09.10:52:42.ttyrec.gz might be this one
13:08 <qt> i think it's the one right after that, the 11:14 one
13:08 <qt> i'm looking at it now
13:09 <NetSysFire> ah good, thanks
13:10 <NetSysFire> it happened earlier than the turn in the screenshot actually because thats just when i reproduced it by placing the corpse and closing the door, but it happened earlier, too
13:11 <qt> yeah, i see that
13:11 <qt> seems weird
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3528
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3751
13:17 <qt> ok i think this has been fixed in vanilla
13:18 <NetSysFire> What do you want to zap? [xD or ?*]
13:18 <NetSysFire> its not funny nethack
13:19 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f355fe7b6070...c1ace5060b48
13:19 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 f0a169d - Fix: potential that branch stairs won't form in the gnomish mines.
13:19 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 c1ace50 - Fix: giants incurring luck penalty in sokoban after level was already solved.
13:19 <qt> f209cac <- thanks pat :)
13:20 <K2> yay pat
13:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3610 points, T:7655, killed by a wand, while praying
13:28 <amateurhour> there's some valid sounding compiler warnings
13:29 <amateurhour> in mhitu.c:3329 or so permdmg can be used without being initialised
13:29 <amateurhour> worth looking over the compilers warnings because that's just one example
13:30 <K2> weird... i dont get that warning when i compile with linux-debug
13:30 <K2> are you using clang?
13:30 <amateurhour> yeah
13:30 <K2> yup. clang will catch some things gcc doesnt
13:30 <K2> dunno why that is
13:31 <K2> what's the exact warning?
13:31 <amateurhour> mhitu.c:3329:18: warning: variable 'permdmg' is used uninitialized whenever switch case is taken [-Wsometimes-uninitialized]
13:32 <amateurhour> so in this case what could happen is, you land on the 'but it doesnt work' case, it then reads permdmg
13:32 <amateurhour> permdmg is some random int on the stack, and then you get hit with vecna's gaze anyway
13:32 <qt> here are all the warnings i get https://termbin.com/kbus
13:33 <qt> many of them are just 'move variable declarations to the start of the block'
13:33 <amateurhour> we have different warnings in our hints files for sure
13:34 <K2> oh shit qt lol
13:34 <K2> that's a lot
13:34 <qt> also many of them are basically 'use the BOOLEAN_P macro instead of 'boolean' in function declarations'
13:35 <K2> surprised you never mentioned them before
13:36 <qt> most of them are the 'variable declarations should be at the start of the block' and 'use BOOLEAN_P or XCHAR_P instead of boolean or xchar when declaring function parameters' warnings
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13:36 <K2> ah
13:36 <amateurhour> I don't get those warnings at all btw
13:37 <amateurhour> I should check if I just turned them off or something
13:37 <qt> i'm using a customized hints file
13:37 <qt> i think it has some extra warnings in there maybe? can't remember for sure
13:37 <qt> but probably so, given that
13:37 <qt> oh wait actually i'm not using one in evilhack
13:37 <qt> only in vanilla nethack, so idk
13:38 <K2> amateurhour, if you change int dmg, permdmg; to int dmg, permdmg =0; and recompile, does it silence that warning?
13:38 <amateurhour> it would do yep
13:38 <amateurhour> and also prevent the bug I mentioned
13:38 <qt> what hints file are you using amateurhour? the macosx10.14 one?
13:39 <amateurhour> linux-debug with some tweaks
13:39 <qt> ok that's the difference then
13:39 <qt> macosx10.14 must include the extra warnings
13:39 <qt> funny it includes more warnings than the 'debug' one
13:40 <amateurhour> I figured it'd be easier to get linux-debug working than an ancient macos one
13:40 <amateurhour> didn't actually try any of the macos ones though haha
13:40 <qt> it works without any issue
13:40 <qt> works fine
13:40 <amateurhour> that's good, should probably switch to that then
13:40 <qt> the only change I make is to add WANT_SOURCE_INSTALL=1 to it, since that will build it inside the repo
13:41 <qt> i think i found out recently that's a special thing in the osx hints files, it's pretty nice
13:41 <NetSysFire> K2: EPI: if you stumble and fall while in raw sewage, you may swallow some of it depending on your luck, getting the effects of a potion of sickness or just generic "you feel very sick" of a poison attack
13:41 <qt> no NetSysFire please, i don't want to eat sewage
13:41 <qt> please don't make me eat sewage
13:42 <amateurhour> support but only if we can purposefully trip monsters into the sewage
13:42 <NetSysFire> hah
13:42 <NetSysFire> qt: i have actually been researching on sewage and toxic waste in general the past couple of hours for a PR for cdda, another roguelike
13:42 <qt> i think sewage should only be possible to appear after minetown
13:42 <amateurhour> weird thing to boast about but I'm happy that you're happy :P
13:42 <qt> it's minetown's sewage
13:43 <qt> otherwise i don't understand why there's a river of raw sewage in a random cave
13:43 <amateurhour> that makes a lot of sense
13:44 <NetSysFire> agree
13:46 <K2> ever try to drink sewage?
13:46 <K2> (in the game)
13:46 <K2> ^ felt that needed clarification
13:46 <qt> damn i was going to be able to say yes until that qualifier was added
13:46 <Pinkbeast> Oh, loads of times... oh, in the game? Never mind.
13:46 <K2> hahah
13:46 <qt> lol lotta sewage drinkers in here
13:47 <amateurhour> well now I feel weird for NOT drinking sewage...
13:47 <K2> we're a weird lot
13:47 <NetSysFire> what happens if you do that?
13:47 <K2> try it
13:47 <amateurhour> for science
13:47 <NetSysFire> lol
13:47 <Pinkbeast> I've had a mouthful of siphonned petrol which a) I hope you like the taste because everything will taste of petrol for a week and b) you will not like the taste
13:48 <NetSysFire> if you fall stumble (fumbling) in a puddle of sewage, swallowing it depending on your luck sounds evil but reasonable though
13:48 <qt> why does it say 'drink the water beneath you' and only then reveal it's sewage in a second prompt
13:48 <K2> you know what else sounds reasonable?
13:48 <K2> if you dip a potion into sewage, it creates a potion of sickness
13:48 <qt> why not change it to 'drink the %s beneath you?' and put 'sewage' in there if it fits
13:48 <K2> qt good idea
13:49 <Pinkbeast> K2: "eh, you've got room for one more pint in there" sounds reasonable and I know how that ends
13:49 <K2> hmm scratch my idea - what if sickness potion is smoky?
13:49 <K2> Pinkbeast lol
13:49 <amateurhour> then that would be epic and you should definitely add it
13:49 <amateurhour> :)
13:49 <K2> :P
13:49 <NetSysFire> K2: make the potion diluted then
13:49 <K2> potion of sewage - new item
13:49 <Pinkbeast> Even with near-unlimited smokies (eg smoky fj) it's hard to get more than 2 wishes
13:49 <K2> potion of poo
13:50 <Pinkbeast> I think being able to throw sickness at everything scary would be more of an issue
13:50 <krm26> you know what is sewage? 10% water, 90% shit. you know what else is sewage? 99% water, 1% shit
13:50 <K2> that's just sad
13:50 <Pinkbeast> krm26: True in a sense but if I have to drink one, I'll have number two # haha
13:51 <krm26> no number two in mine please
13:51 <krm26> DFGDFGDF. None of the 5 dragons in Ludios dropped scales
13:54 <qt> K2: https://termbin.com/w24a
13:54 <qt> this also uses hliquid so that if you're hallucinating, you'll think the sewage is cotton candy or something and won't get the second 'are you really sure?' prompt
13:55 <qt> wait, you can choose to drink sewage but not to drink from a puddle?
13:55 <qt> lol
13:55 <qt> and the reason is 'do you know what lives in that water?'
13:56 <K2> yeah hah
13:56 <amateurhour> lol
13:56 <qt> "I never drink water, fish fuck in it, it's disgusting -- excuse me, I need to go refill my nalgene with raw sewage"
13:58 <qt> probably should add a change from '...what lives in that water?"' to '...what lives in that %s?", liq' to that diff
13:58 <qt> if you're going to leave it as-is and prevent the player from drinking water, at least
13:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4288
13:59 <qt> so when hallucinating you'll get "Drink the Hawaiian Punch below you? [yn] (n) y    Do you know what lives in that Hawaiian Punch?"
13:59 <qt> probably the little Hawaiian Punch mascot guy
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5564
14:00 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c1ace5060b48...238f3b8cde31
14:00 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 238f3b8 - Fix: warning: variable 'permdmg' is used uninitialized whenever switch case is taken [-Wsometimes-uninitialized].
14:02 <amateurhour> another asan report for ur viewing pleasure https://0x0.st/oXfC.log
14:03 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/238f3b8cde31...7487bb56dc77
14:03 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 7487bb5 - Fix: better handling when trying to drink from a puddle or sewage.
14:04 <amateurhour> idk if my message was seen betwixt messages
14:04 <K2> i see it
14:05 <qt> that's not great
14:05 <amateurhour> this one is gonna be a headscratcher
14:05 <amateurhour> sorry sorry I mean an *adventure*
14:08 <qt> an xchar is 1 byte right
14:09 <qt> amateurhour: do you still have it open in the debugger?
14:09 <amateurhour> yes I do
14:10 <qt> what's aroom->doorct and aroom->fdoor?
14:10 <amateurhour> doorct is 4, fdoor is absolutely mental
14:11 <amateurhour> '\x80' 
14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:31033
14:11 <K2> rofl... I just had an employee tell me they wont do the MFA registration because 'i dont have a non work email and i dont want one'
14:12 <krm26> heh
14:12 <K2> i said ok and walked away. no longer my problem
14:12 <krm26> i'd give him a 2nd work email
14:12 <K2> that wont work
14:12 <krm26> a 3rd!
14:12 <K2> it wont accept our company domain as a valid email account
14:13 <qt> give him a yubikey
14:13 <K2> its supposed to be something outside of work
14:13 <K2> and its a her
14:13 <krm26> throwaway account
14:13 <qt> give her a yubikey
14:13 <K2> no. its no longer my problem
14:13 <qt> yubikeys are accessible to all sexes
14:14 <amateurhour>  /msg qt how much does Yubico pay u to shill and how can i get a cut
14:14 <qt> i am paid in yubikeys
14:15 <qt> k2 just change all the badges to smartcards, put smartcard readers on all the machines, make them the required second factor
14:15 <qt> sounds easy
14:16 <qt> amateurhour: what's doorindex?
14:16 <amateurhour> I could be wrong about this but does '\x80' get interpreted as -128
14:16 <amateurhour> 142
14:16 <qt> how are there this many doors
14:16 <qt> lol
14:16 <amateurhour> lol idk
14:17 <K2> qt i'd love to do that
14:17 <qt> you're probably right amateurhour
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14:17 <qt> looks like it's a signed char
14:18 <qt> but how is doorindex even close to that high
14:18 <amateurhour> I haven't the foggiest
14:18 <K2> another thing this reminded me of - amateurhour, if you go to the store and use your credit card to pay for something, you're required to enter the pin associated with the chip in the card correct?
14:18 <qt> i mean, one issue here is that DOORMAX is the maximum number of doors on a level and it's 200
14:18 <qt> but fdoor is a signed char
14:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:50944
14:19 <rebatela> 4 wishes later... 
14:19 <qt> hmm
14:19 <qt> k2 you increased it to 200 because of 'a recent change to one of the random vault rooms'
14:19 <qt> is there a vault room with 100 doors in it
14:20 <amateurhour> uh not necessarily K2, we have 'contactless payment' for under certain amounts
14:20 <amateurhour> like 40 quid or so
14:20 <K2> ok
14:20 <amateurhour> imagine like apple pay or whatever, we can do that with our cards if it's under that amount
14:20 <K2> here in the states, not only is the pin never required, but magnetic swipe is still an option
14:21 <amateurhour> whack
14:21 <K2> same with shopping online - no pin required
14:21 <K2> its fucked up
14:21 <amateurhour> for online we have a verification step with our banks, do you not have that?
14:21 <qt> no
14:22 <K2> when we finally had the requirement for credit cards with the chip, I thought 'great, I have a crad reader already, now i can pay securly online and not worry about some asshole stealing my card info and using it'
14:22 <K2> nope
14:22 <K2> *card
14:22 <NetSysFire> K2: are you working as a sysadmin?
14:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:51112
14:22 <K2> yes
14:22 <rebatela> out of wishes... need dragonbane from god 
14:22 <qt> K2: are you working as an exotic dancer?
14:22 <K2> we dont talk about that qt
14:22 <amateurhour> qt is there any forensics we can do to figure out if it's from a vault?
14:23 <krm26> i can't believe all credit cards don't offer free single-use numbers for online transactions
14:23 <amateurhour> slash is there any magic words we can use to get K2's noggin' joggin'
14:23 <qt> krm26: i have to get that via privacy.com since my bank doesn't offer it
14:23 <NetSysFire> K2: hah nice, same
14:23 <qt> (i also accept payment from privacy.com in yubikeys)
14:24 <K2> NetSysFire wooop
14:24 <K2> you know my struggles
14:24 <NetSysFire> i do
14:24 <NetSysFire> MFA is great but it all depends on your threatmodel
14:25 <amateurhour> assume the russians are trying to hack ur badge maker to print unlimited sheriff badges
14:25 <amateurhour> at all times
14:25 <NetSysFire> i made some PAM hackery for myself, enabling me to unlock my laptop via fingerprint/biometrics but only for 5 minutes after i locked it, after that its password only
14:25 <K2> :)
14:25 <NetSysFire> if i would put that onto users devices, they dont run linux but just imagine, they are encouraged to lock their devices more because its so convenient to unlock
14:26 <K2> you have to know your audience
14:26 <K2> there's a lot... a LOT of people here who really have no business using a computer
14:26 <qt> that's a cool idea NetSysFire, one of the reasons I don't use biometrics is so the government can't force me to unlock my computer and reveal my hawaiian shirt-related secrets
14:26 <NetSysFire> true, all the more important to make it convenient
14:26 <krm26> airgap the building, nobody gets to leave once they are on-site. never had a leak
14:26 <qt> but that would be a nonissue if it only works for a certain amount of time
14:27 <qt> i use a yubikey with PIV anyway though so it's not really inconvenient for me, i just need the yubikey and a short pin
14:27 <NetSysFire> K2: imagine requiring a fingerprint and their keycard for up to one hour of idle time
14:27 <krm26> yeah, biometrics is too friendly to fascist regimes (i.e. basically every government everywhere)
14:27 <NetSysFire> qt: i use my  yubikey for passwordless sudo
14:28 <NetSysFire> if you are able to sudo as me, you are already in my account in which case its over anyways and using a yubikey for auth (u2f so its just a simple tap) protects me against shoulder surfing, which is the actual threat
14:28 * K2 nods
14:28 <K2> its all windows machines here
14:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a steel helm called HLM entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:31414
14:28 <qt> i used to have that set up but a macos update broke all the yubikey PAM stuff, so i switched to PIV and i don't mind entering the pin
14:28 <K2> i dont trust biometrics just yet
14:28 <NetSysFire> K2: windows hello?
14:29 <K2> i dont feel its as robust as it needs to be
14:29 <NetSysFire> i havent much experience with windows. i am usually in the backend stuff working with the linux servers
14:29 <qt> K2: do you have any idea why you increased DOORMAX?
14:29 <qt> the commit is 6f69fc7
14:29 <K2> we havent had a help desk in over 2 years, so i'm stuck wearing multiple hats
14:29 <qt> you wrote "Fixed a couple issues seen while fuzzing - a recent change to one of the random vault rooms was causing the DOORMAX impossible."
14:29 <NetSysFire> is one of them an elven leather helm? :p
14:30 <K2> hah
14:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:51653
14:30 <K2> qt looking
14:30 <qt> i guess i could probably look up the irc logs from that day
14:30 <rebatela> gimme dragonbane dammit 
14:31 <K2> qt i think it was because if enough random vault rooms were created on one map, it could exceed 120 doors
14:31 <K2> for that level
14:31 <NetSysFire> another potentially nice thing would be requiring a keycard + pin for unlock, very convenient for the user to unlock again
14:32 <K2> if the exec types bless off on going forward with a new ERP system, we'll be authorized to hire a help desk person
14:32 <NetSysFire> "DOORSMAX" sounds like a physical security company specializing in door control
14:33 <K2> no way am I doing level 1 stuff while working on cutting over data from old ERP to new
14:33 <qt> if DOORMAX is more than 127 i guess you need to change fdoor to an int or an unsigned char or something
14:33 <K2> oooh
14:33 <qt> but i don't understand how there can be so many doors
14:34 <NetSysFire> yeah thats dumb of the execs, how big is the company and whats the company doing roughly (e.g software stuff, medical, construction)?
14:34 <qt> there may be other xchars where a door index is stored too i guess
14:34 <K2> imports and manufacturing
14:34 <K2> and exports
14:34 <NetSysFire> ah
14:34 <K2> about 170 ppl
14:34 <K2> across two locations
14:34 <K2> IT dept is myself and my boss
14:35 <K2> that's it
14:35 <NetSysFire> i mostly worked for datacenters and other IT companies
14:35 <K2> i've gotten things to a point where things can be unattended for a period of time
14:35 <NetSysFire> thats good progress
14:35 <amateurhour> I don't think there's too many doors enough qt
14:35 <K2> took about 2 years to get to that point
14:35 <NetSysFire> automation is epic if you can use it
14:36 <K2> i wont say anything else lest I jinx it :)
14:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:31887
14:36 <qt> amateurhour: too many doors enough? there should be more too many doors?
14:36 <NetSysFire> i am also sort-of specializing in security, i always keep a close eye on that
14:36 <amateurhour> why is it limited to a mere 200 doors there's plenty of room for more
14:36 <Pinkbeast> I infer in context an "ERP" system isn't what _I_ think it is
14:36 * amateurhour slaps roof of mklev
14:36 <krm26> sorry rebatela
14:36 <K2> next on my two-do is 2fa for vpn
14:36 <K2> two-do hah
14:37 <K2> to-do
14:37 <qt> Pinkbeast: k2 is just transferring all our ERP logs to a new system
14:37 <qt> hundreds of TB
14:37 <K2> fromt he google - 'ERP is an acronym that stands for enterprise resource planning (ERP). It's a business process management software that manages and integrates a company's financials, supply chain, operations, commerce, reporting, manufacturing, and human resource activities.'
14:37 <Pinkbeast> qt: Ah. I'd join you, but I'm wearing a cursed orcish helm and can't put on my wizard hat
14:37 <NetSysFire> K2: like I found out the courts (as in law) havent updated their systems in 2007, rendering them critically vulnerable. also captured some malware from my honeypots, dissecting it and sharing it with others to inform them of that new malware
14:37 <Pinkbeast> K2: (thanks but secretly I know)
14:38 <NetSysFire> e.g https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Malicious+Network+Traffic+From+binbash/23591/
14:38 <K2> nice
14:38 <K2> what do you use for AV? something standard or next gen?
14:39 <NetSysFire> i dont do AV on servers. maybe clamAV for mailservers attachment scanning
14:39 <NetSysFire> friend of mine looooves windows defender enterprise but thats expensive af
14:39 <K2> we use crowdstike. love it
14:39 <K2> crowdstrike
14:39 <NetSysFire> i use audit and stuff for detecting threats on my linux servers
14:40 <qt> crowdstrike sounds like something that would appear on a FOIA'd list of drone mistakes
14:40 <K2> almost all the servers here are windows based
14:40 <NetSysFire> i specialized in linux so i only accept jobs with the majority of linux servers
14:41 <NetSysFire> i worked for some universities, too. i once spoke with the head of IT security, she told me theres phishing and they already sent emails to all the students to nto click the link
14:41 <K2> i didnt really start using *nix at all until a few years ago (thank you nethack), windows i can do all day
14:41 <Pinkbeast> ... which didn't work
14:41 <NetSysFire> i head desked so hard. there is so much you can do against that than just sending emails. you can get that blocked in browsers and also contact the hosting provider of the malicious host
14:42 <NetSysFire> K2: https://gotphish.com if you ever find phishing or malware in your company
14:42 <K2> thanks
14:42 <NetSysFire> decentsecurity.com (where gotphish.com redirects to) is also really epic
14:42 <qt> it isn't loading for me
14:42 <K2> same
14:42 <K2> its loading malware on your machine *gasp*
14:42 <krm26> use the 2nd link
14:43 <NetSysFire> https://decentsecurity.com/malware-web-and-phishing-investigation/
14:43 <NetSysFire> its redirecting there usually
14:44 <K2> hmm most phishing emails come from either an ip address (no domain assoc with it) or from gmail lately
14:44 <NetSysFire> if its spam via email and you have imap, you can potentially delete it from users mailboxes, too. if you are not able to, you can block it in browsers (also append it to global blocklists) and also attack the source so its taken down properly
14:44 <K2> cant block gmail...
14:44 <NetSysFire> you can report to gmail though
14:44 <K2> we switched over to O365 for email a few months ago, and surprisingly, I am impressed
14:44 <qt> switched from what?
14:44 <NetSysFire> i heard some good things about it
14:44 <K2> it catches a ton of phishing/spam attempts that werent caught before
14:45 <K2> exchange 2010 hosted by rackspace
14:45 <Pinkbeast> So did the University and I was impressed, I honestly would not have believed Microsoft couldn't even get bloody reverse DNS right
14:45 <amateurhour> heh
14:46 <NetSysFire> you know the best part was when i was working at that renowned university i was pretty young, i think like maybe 16 or 17? was 2-3 years ago and i am telling the head of security, which is like double my age, how to do stuff better
14:46 <Pinkbeast> So an unknown proportion of our outgoing email is getting blackholed (well, apart from the users and Departments who are individually running their own standards-compliant mail systems now meaning more work for everyone)
14:48 <Pinkbeast> And ofc where in the past we could just decide spqr1 can be spqr1@cam.ac.uk forever, now it's difficult if they no longer work for us. Which means a lot of Professors I A M Famous who've been putting <iamf1@cam.ac.uk> on papers for decades are justifiably vexed.
14:48 <Pinkbeast> (and it's particularly tragic since exim was literally developed for our old functional mail system)
14:49 <krm26> losing email addresses you've used for ages is le suck
14:49 <krm26> i was so pissed off when i lost k@nn.com
14:50 <K2> with the switch to o365, I was able to setup DMARC proper
14:50 <NetSysFire> nice
14:50 <Pinkbeast> It is, and in this case it is an entirely predictable _and_ unavoidable consequence of the university's actions _and_ one which will, as mentioned, vex Professor I A M Famous, which is rarely _if ever_ a good idea if at all preventable.
14:50 <K2> heh
14:51 <krm26> wtf...the crystal chest has vanished
14:52 <qt> did it vanish before your very eyes? or you came back and it was gone?
14:53 <NetSysFire> i also did some IT stuff for friends in the past, a friend of mine called me and frantically explains that she has been hacked, she gave a rando her instagram password since the rando promised her more followers in exchange for her password, and it ended up being extortion
14:53 <krm26> came back and gone, or vanished while summoning and killing monsters to sacrifice
14:53 <NetSysFire> as in "now send me some pics if you want your account back"
14:53 <krm26> so i guess something could have run away with it, except i exterminated the level without finding it
14:53 <NetSysFire> pics as in.. feet pics
14:53 <qt> wow but did she get more followers NetSysFire?
14:53 <NetSysFire> i dont actually no
14:53 <Pinkbeast> qt: No, tragically she's got no legs
14:53 <NetSysFire> the problem is she reused her password and her gmail got compromised too
14:54 <NetSysFire> and google account compromised = phone is compromised, too
14:54 <NetSysFire> luckily the rando didnt do that and i managed to regain access fairly quickly and the rando was upset they lost access
14:54 <qt> that happened to me with a very old gmail account that i reused for my old unused facebook account back in the day
14:55 <qt> facebook connected to gmail so someone accessed the facebook account and changed the password and email connected to it, then approved it from the email and deleted the 'security warning' emails
14:55 <qt> and then they just used the account to post 'Hello.'
14:55 <qt> very weird
14:55 <NetSysFire> hah
14:56 <qt> i tried recovering it but the final step in the recovery process is 'confirm your email'
14:56 <qt> and they had changed it to some mystery hotmail address
14:56 <qt> not that i had used it for years but i'd still like to have closed it or something, not left it in the hands of the bad guy
14:56 <qt> or the hello guy, rather
14:57 <NetSysFire> !rng pizza | cheese
14:57 <Hecubus> NetSysFire: cheese
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15:17 <krm26> phew, found the crystal chest, had wandered off to another level
15:18 <mobileuser> the crystal chest wandered off?
15:18 <K2> Steve took it
15:18 <mobileuser> lol
15:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:32903
15:21 <krm26> blurf
15:21 <krm26> guess it is better than keolewa
15:21 <amateurhour> qt is there anything worth keeping this doors issue lldb session going for?
15:24 <qt> idk i guess not... i'm interested to know why there are so many doors but I can't think of a way to figure that out
15:24 <qt> hmm is there some variable that tracks the number of rooms
15:24 <amateurhour> nroom? it
15:24 <amateurhour> it's 16
15:25 <qt> how can there be so many doors lol
15:25 <K2> could maybe set it back to 120 and see what happens
15:25 <amateurhour> lol I have no idea, but maybe K2 can remember which vault it could be?
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15:26 <qt> can you see whether doors actually has values up to that number?
15:26 <amateurhour> there's a rtype on aroom
15:26 <qt> like is doors[50] something?
15:26 <amateurhour> I'll send doors, one sec
15:27 <amateurhour> https://0x0.st/oXOL.txt
15:27 <qt> wow looks very normal
15:27 <amateurhour> just 142 or so doors
15:27 <amateurhour> pretty ordinary
15:28 <amateurhour> aroom has a rtype, would that be the vault?
15:28 <qt> what is it?
15:28 <K2> i put DOORMAX max back to 120 and am gonna fuzz, see if i can recreate the bug i was alluding to in that commit
15:29 <amateurhour> '\x13'
15:29 <amateurhour> you definitely will K2 as I have 142 doors right now lol
15:29 <qt> that's rndvault
15:29 <K2> yeah
15:29 <K2> hmm
15:29 <qt> so it must be connected
15:29 <qt> k2 are you sure you didn't add a room with 100 doors
15:30 <K2> i did not
15:30 <amateurhour> there's gotta be a single busted vault right, or we'd see this more often
15:30 <qt> maybe you did it while sleepwalking?
15:30 <K2> and isnt it 143 doors?
15:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 13785 points, T:21068, poisoned by a gray fungus
15:31 <amateurhour> yes 143
15:31 <amateurhour> even worse
15:32 <qt> what's lx, ly, hx, hy for the room amateurhour?
15:32 <K2> could simply changing fdoor to int fix it?
15:32 <qt> maybe it would fix this asan issue but why are there so many doors in the first place
15:33 <K2> some vault rooms have nested sub rooms
15:33 <amateurhour> https://0x0.st/oXOf.txt
15:33 <qt> 143 doors worth though K2?
15:33 <K2> i dont know
15:33 <K2> i barely understand how room gen works
15:34 <qt> so aroom goes from 10,75 to 11,76? that seems small for so many doors
15:34 <qt> or 75,10 to 76,11 rather
15:35 <amateurhour> that has nsubrooms 0 as well
15:35 <qt> many of these doors are nowhere near it, maybe something else is the one with all the doors?
15:35 <qt> and it just so happens this is the room after it or something?
15:37 <amateurhour> we can inspect the other rooms fine
15:38 <qt> what's level.locations[19][4].roomno?
15:38 <amateurhour> 1
15:38 <qt> does rooms[4] look weird?
15:39 <qt> that should be the room that many of those doors are on
15:40 <qt> oh, or wait
15:40 <amateurhour> https://0x0.st/oXOJ.txt
15:40 <qt> actually that's weird
15:41 <qt> i think i got it backwards
15:41 <qt> the index in rooms[] should be level.locations[x][y].roomno - ROOMOFFSET, not + ROOMOFFSET
15:41 <qt> so if it's 1 does that mean it's referring to rooms[-2]?
15:42 <qt> maybe it has an invalid roomno and that's what is causing the issue somehow?
15:42 <qt> then again maybe all the roomno values get changed later in level generation or something, idk
15:45 <qt> oh
15:45 <qt> roomno = 1 means it's a shared spot between multiple rooms
15:45 <qt> that's got to be relevant
15:59 <K2> amateurhour did that commit concerning 'stack' did that resolve that particular error you'd see whilst fuzzing
15:59 <K2> not sure how easy it is for you to reproduce certain things
16:01 <K2> sorry not more engaged - when i brought up DMARC earlier, I decided to check out status with dmarcian.com (awesome site), noticed several DKIM records were missing for our primary domain. wtf? so I go to check our DNS record, several records were dropped. I cant add/delete/edit anything, web panel times out. appears our host imposed a 15 record limit per domain and didnt tell anyone 
16:02 <K2> 15 fucking record limit
16:02 <K2> unreal
16:02 <Umbire> ???
16:02 <K2> just finished chatting with support
16:02 <K2> tier one cant do anything of course
16:02 <amateurhour> afaict yes
16:02 <K2> amateurhour cool
16:04 <NetSysFire> ouch rip
16:06 <NetSysFire> dont forget to port the fix for seeing monsters opening a door when you shouldnt to evil :p
16:06 <K2> ok heh
16:07 <amateurhour> where are these vaults even define?
16:07 <K2> thankfully dmarc is still working, spf records still exist
16:08 <K2> amateurhour vaults.des vaults.dat
16:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 8535 points, T:10235, killed by a bolt of cold
16:08 <K2> and mklev.c
16:09 <K2> rndvault_gen
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16:10 <K2> look in mklev.c starting at line 39
16:11 <qt> ok, check it out
16:11 <qt> i mapped the rooms based on rooms[]
16:11 <qt> https://termbin.com/67fa
16:11 <qt> see how there are two of those tripartite vaults
16:12 <qt> feels like that must be related to it somehow...
16:12 <K2> yes
16:12 <amateurhour> hmm nroom is 16 though
16:12 <amateurhour> I see 10 rooms there
16:13 <K2> qt, that looks like vlt-0022
16:13 <amateurhour> perhaps some of the others contain subrooms
16:13 <K2> see vaults.des line 437
16:13 <amateurhour> (which case also be rndvault)
16:14 <qt> amateurhour: but all of them say nsubrooms = 0
16:14 <K2> vlt-0031 could also make something funky
16:14 <K2> more random
16:14 <amateurhour> hmm true
16:15 <K2> i bet each one of those 'subrooms' is actually seen as its own room
16:15 <K2> like amateurhour said, he sees 10 rooms
16:15 <amateurhour> what happens if you add the doors on there as well qt? I know that's probs a royal pain
16:16 <amateurhour> maybe it'd be super obvious where the problem is
16:16 <qt> that's a good idea but I did the rooms by hand, maybe a bit later when I have some more time I will write a script to place doors on it
16:17 <amateurhour> oh right
16:17 <qt> i think i'll have some time to give it a shot in like 30 min
16:18 <qt> so annoying the chars don't print out with their integer values
16:18 <K2> awesome
16:18 <qt> that made things so much slower
16:18 <qt> having to convert each one
16:18 <K2> not awesome
16:19 <amateurhour> I tried setting lldb to print all chars as ints but in some contexts it knows it's an xchar and others it thinks char
16:19 <amateurhour> and can't get it to display right
16:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4461
16:49 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7487bb56dc77...68d1aa0dbf2c
16:49 <Not-9244> [EvilHack] k21971 68d1aa0 - Fix: monster vs closed door messaging.
16:49 <K2> ^ NetSysFire
16:49 <NetSysFire> nice!
16:50 <K2> that's for next version though
16:51 <amateurhour> sigh I guess it's just literally unplayable for you till next version NetSysFire :P
16:51 <NetSysFire> yeah literally unplayable
16:51 <K2> playable, un
16:51 <NetSysFire> also unplayable until you can accidentally swallow sewage when fumbling and falling into sewage
16:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3057
16:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3980
16:57 <qt> amateurhour: version with doors from doors[] placed https://termbin.com/49xee
16:57 <amateurhour> wtf
16:57 <amateurhour> lol
16:57 <qt> it does look like there are some 'shadows' of rooms outlined with the doors
16:57 <qt> that aren't in rooms[]??
16:58 <amateurhour> I wonder if paxed has ever seen this before
17:01 <amateurhour> there's about 65 doors visible there, are there duplicates or ones off the map?
17:01 <qt> there are duplicates
17:01 <qt> i'm tweaking the script to mark how many doors are at each spot rn
17:03 <qt> https://termbin.com/8hw6
17:03 <qt> * means number > 9
17:03 <amateurhour> 9 in one spot wtf
17:03 <amateurhour> more than 9 in one spot wtf
17:03 <qt> 9 in multiple spots, more than 9 in multiple spots. crazy
17:04 <amateurhour> is it trying to connect every room to every room each time?
17:04 <amateurhour> maybe because multiple subrooms there's a larger total of 'room's and then it doesn't actually add more than MAXROOMS
17:04 <amateurhour> not subrooms, but those 3-style rooms
17:05 <amateurhour> but still tries connecting them
17:05 <amateurhour> me no good english bcuz tired
17:05 <qt> you mean that each 3-part room is counted multiple times somehow?
17:06 <amateurhour> yeah maybe that 3 room creates 3 actual rooms
17:06 <amateurhour> the fake rooms exceed the max number of rooms so don't actually get added
17:06 <qt> it does count as 3 rooms but that's already represented in rooms[]
17:06 <amateurhour> but it's still trying to connect them all out
17:06 <qt> that's how i know they are 3-part rooms, each 'subroom' is listed individually in rooms[]
17:07 <qt> i think it really seems like there are additional rooms, since the doors 'not connected to a room' appear to be arranged in rectangles
17:07 <qt> unless that's some texas sharpshooter fallacy thing
17:08 <amateurhour> what is the max number of rooms?
17:08 <qt> 40
17:08 <qt> so a lot
17:08 <qt> but i would have also said that 120 doors is a lot
17:08 <qt> lol
17:08 <amateurhour> lol
17:09 <K2> oooh boy
17:09 <K2> this is nuts
17:09 <amateurhour> this is an *adventure*
17:09 <K2> fun for the whole family
17:10 <K2> alright, I gotta go get the kiddo, back in a couple hours
17:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4719 points, T:6028, killed by a panther
17:10 <K2> gymastics night
17:10 <amateurhour> I'm gonna head to sleep soon probably, will keep the lldb session alive for tomorrow
17:11 <qt> are you sure you didn't miss any rooms when copy-pasting rooms[]?
17:11 <amateurhour> definitely
17:11 <qt> because there is a chunk in there that's missing
17:11 <amateurhour> it jumps to 81 for some reason
17:11 <qt> but it's just like a couple lines from inside one of the rooms, like the line with needjoining is cut off
17:11 <qt> and doorct is missing
17:11 <qt> so nbd
17:12 <amateurhour> hmm
17:12 <amateurhour> maybe some paging setting in lldb? will try dump it to file directly somehow
17:13 <amateurhour> oh it's an llvm limit
17:13 <amateurhour> awks...
17:13 <qt> what's the limit?
17:13 <amateurhour> some number of chars, cuts out the middle and prints the last element
17:15 <qt> weird, i don't get that when i do p rooms
17:16 <qt> at least it prints [81], [80], [79], ..., [66] -- it could cut off some parts earlier somewhere
17:16 <qt> i didn't go through the whole thing
17:16 <qt> but odd
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17:22 <amateurhour> damn idk how to get it to put the result into a file
17:22 <amateurhour> my google and man page fu are weak
17:22 <qt> can you just check whether there's a rooms[11]
17:23 <amateurhour> there is
17:23 <qt> oh ok so we were missing a couple rooms
17:24 <amateurhour> https://0x0.st/oXVZ.txt
17:24 <qt> damn you know one of those '*' spots has 17 doors
17:24 <qt> that's a whole lotta doors
17:26 <amateurhour> 17 wtf
17:27 <qt> lol wow
17:27 <qt> if i crank up the generation frequency on the random vault to make 0022 the most likely
17:27 <qt> the program goes crazy
17:28 <amateurhour> https://0x0.st/oXVT.txt
17:28 <amateurhour> used this: https://github.com/4iar/lldb-write
17:28 <qt> https://0x0.st/oXVc.png (note my name is not printed??)
17:28 <NetSysFire> hey ya evilhack folks
17:28 <NetSysFire> i found a bug
17:28 <amateurhour> woah
17:28 <nabru> congratulations!
17:29 <qt> i don't believe it
17:29 <qt> https://0x0.st/oXVA.png
17:29 <NetSysFire> qt: i dropped a scroll of scare monster, looked on the floor (:) it said uncursed (i am a priest) but it turned to dust as i picked it up
17:29 <qt> that's not a bug
17:29 <qt> scrolls of scare monster don't ever become cursed on their own
17:29 <qt> it's just that cursed ones can't be picked up
17:30 <qt> the transitions are blessed -> uncursed (but can be picked up) -> uncursed (and can't be picked up)
17:30 <qt> and then separately, but it won't appear on its own, cursed (can't be picked up)
17:30 <qt> don't ask me why it works that way instead of uncursed scrolls becoming cursed
17:30 <amateurhour> I know you said not to but that just makes me want to ask you even more
17:31 <NetSysFire> qt: i mean that it was displayed as uncursed
17:31 <NetSysFire> dont they degrade their buc on drop?
17:31 <qt> not from uncursed to cursed
17:31 <qt> from blessed to uncursed yeah, but uncursed doesn't ever become cursed -- it just becomes "uncursed but can't be picked up again"
17:32 <qt> i agree it feels more consistent for it to become cursed, i don't know why the system is so complicated and counterintuitive
17:32 <NetSysFire> hm
17:32 <qt> presumably there's some reasoning behind it
17:34 <NetSysFire> "presumably" sounds like not everything in the nethack code has a reason for being there
17:36 <amateurhour> gonna hit the hay now qt but will keep the lldb session around, sorry for not noticing the rooms getting cut off earlier
17:36 <qt> i'm very mad
17:36 <qt> VERY
17:36 <amateurhour> I knew it :(
17:36 <qt> >:(
17:37 <amateurhour> wrinkles in forehead and a deep frown on face
17:37 <qt> i think the important stuff was there already
17:37 <qt> namely the fact that multiple three-part rooms were on the level
17:37 <qt> like i said earlier, the game goes bananas if you crank up that vault's frequency
17:37 <amateurhour> does it do that if you have any of the other vaults?
17:37 <qt> the levels are almost all corridor, and it panics/crashes upon level generation maybe 1/3 of the time
17:38 <qt> i don't know
17:38 <amateurhour> argh I have to sleep but I keep being nerd sniped
17:38 <qt> let me just try a random one
17:38 <amateurhour> ( https://xkcd.com/356/ )
17:39 <amateurhour> I'll go now, will read backscroll in the morning if you write anything
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17:40 <qt> other rooms which have 'subrooms' (i.e. the ones which are really two or more rooms right next to each other) are a problem but rooms which don't aren't
17:40 <qt> that's my preliminary result from testing it with a couple random vaults
17:49 <NetSysFire> yeah now a gnome zombie dropped a cursed scroll to create monster and this turned to dust
17:49 <qt> the scroll of create monster turned to dust?
17:50 <NetSysFire> err scare monster
17:50 <NetSysFire> i should head off to bed
17:51 <qt> yeah the two times a scare monster scroll can turn to dust is if it's uncursed and has already been picked up once while uncursed, or if it's cursed
17:51 <qt> it's kind of confusing, one second, I think pat rankin wrote an explanation of how it works that was pretty clear
17:51 <qt> https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/piini3/why_wont_my_scare_monster_scrolls_stack/hbvd9za/
17:53 <qt> i don't know why it has this internal 'uncursed, and has already been picked up' flag instead of just autocursing
17:53 <qt> i agree that feels like the intuitive thing to happen and i also thought for a long time that was the case (that they autocurse and then turn to dust)
17:54 <qt> maybe the idea is that you can't tell at a glance which ones are 'safe' to drop and/or pick up?
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18:09 <qt> okay i think i know what the problem is with the multipart rooms
18:10 <qt> room-and-corridor level creation doesn't mark two rooms as joined unless it actually digs a corridor between them, even though it has already placed a door at that point
18:14 <qt> and the way the room-joining algorithm works, it first tries to connect each room to the next one to the right, which means connecting up the segments of the 3-part room for almost all cases. this doesn't work, so that's already 'nroom' doors placed without any (nearly) )rooms being considered connected
18:15 <qt> after that it goes through trying to connect each room 'n' to room 'n+2', if they aren't already connected via the intervening room. this is again trying to connect parts of the 3-part room, so this also doesn't work very well.
18:15 <qt> that's another 'nroom' doors placed or so
18:16 <qt> then it just goes crazy and tries to connect each room to each other room, creating a ton of doors again
18:19 <qt> so basically the root problem is that rooms aren't considered 'connected' without an actual corridor between them, and/or that the 3 rooms used to create the tripartite room are treated as individual rooms rather than 3 pieces of a whole
18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:23964
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22:45 <K2> !tell qt caught up on the backscroll, good job wrapping your brain around all that mess. perhaps it'd be prudent to remove vlt-0021/22, or maybe redo them like how vlt-0031 is set up?
22:45 <Hecubus> Will do, K2!
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