00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Inf Hum Fem Una), 2567 points, T:2727, killed by a giant spider, while praying 00:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:34 aosdict: i thought about that but that would be too evil 01:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:36 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:36 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:36 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 03:40 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:50 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 04:36 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:37 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 05:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:44965 06:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44978 06:11 So I'm a fire vortex and drinking lava still damage me somehow? 06:12 damages* 06:12 It's like 1 HP but still 06:20 OH FUCK YOU 06:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4198 points, T:3482, killed by reverting to unhealthy illithid form 06:37 unhealthy illithid form? 06:38 "not healthy enough to survive" never seen that before 06:39 it's more commonly seen in slashem, but if something can damage your base form somehow you can die when reverting 07:03 !lastgame umbire 07:04 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1631195819.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1643607534.evil.html 07:05 Huh, what happened there exactly? I thought that was only a same-race poly thing 07:06 Umbire: can you think of anything that could have damaged your base form, or maybe level drained you, while you were poly'd? 07:06 Not really. 07:07 belated reaction to quaffing lava? but that would be a bug. 07:07 maybe drinking lava yeah 07:09 that's it 07:10 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/fountain.c#L745 07:10 just sets your base form's hp to 0 then deals 1 damage 07:10 so if you do it then de-poly it's gg 07:10 "can only happen if some bit of code reduces u.uhp instead of u.mh while poly'd" 07:11 yeah it should probably call losehp(currenthp, "trying to drink molten lava", KILLED_BY) 07:11 instead of setting it to 0 and then removing 1 for some reason 07:12 K2 ^ 07:14 I'm less mad over it but that's still abject horseshit 07:17 Like I'm fucking made of fire how does--- ugh 07:21 amateurhour: L743 is the one that doesn't account for current polyform, looks like 07:21 Assuming I'm reading this right 07:22 fire vortices (and flaming spheres) like fire, but not lava in mondata.h 07:27 So I was fucked anyway I guess 07:28 Except I had no idea I was fucked because it took forever to actually proc that 07:28 Like if it'd killed me immediately upon trying I'dve fine with that 07:32 I'dve been fine* god I can't type anymore 08:41 why were you quaffing lava 08:41 weirdo 08:41 heh 08:42 SCIENCE 08:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:2362 08:45 K2: Unironically, what mobileuser said 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 383 points, T:288, killed by a rock gnome 08:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:2609 08:56 rebatela should be excited about the last round of commits 08:56 he's always commenting on how much he hates magic traps 08:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3033 08:58 the one from vanilla you mean? 08:58 yeah 08:59 i added it yesterday 08:59 oh right, cool 08:59 that actually solves a pretty annoying problem in the valley where you can't disarm the trap 08:59 so pathing to the stairs doesn't work 09:05 well that's really a problem with pathing 09:06 it also made it more difficult to guide wraiths out of the valley, unfortunately this change came too late for my game 09:07 it should ideally attempt different levels of "can get there across a safe path" "can get there, but path contains traps" "cannot get there across known terrain but here is the closest you can get to your destination" 09:07 yeah aosdict that's the real fix, but being able to get rid of the trap works too 09:09 also, I wonder how much more dangerous exploring the mines will be for a low level character after the trap door change. 09:09 we'll have to experience it 09:10 its not that big a deal actually 09:10 most times you only drop one level 09:10 that's 1d6 damage - during testing, I was mostly seeing 2-3 hp of damage per fall 09:10 what's the max you can fall? from dlvl 1 to castle? 09:11 29 i think 09:11 that could hurt a bit 09:11 guess that'd be 28d6 09:11 I'm really hoping the vanilla devs make it so it can't kill you, just leave you on 1 hp or something 09:11 yeah, but the times you drop several levels in the mines and land in a dangerous situation - will be harder to survive 09:11 its a mercy killing. if you fall from dlvl 1 to the castle, you're not going to survive regardless :) 09:12 not nice for streakers ;-) 09:12 idk about that, seeing some of luxidream etcs speedruns they rock up to the castle in their underpants 09:12 that's vanilla though 09:13 the more concerning change in vanilla is that magic trap damage to spellcasting types 09:13 i have it on good authority that's going to be addressed 09:14 magic or anti-magic? 09:14 is it the anti-magic trap that does that? 09:14 the insane damage based on your energy 09:14 Anti-magic, yeah 09:14 xnethack already has that? 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 313 points, T:609, poisoned by a kobold zombie 09:15 i dunno if xnh has that change pulled in 09:15 I think I remember taking lots of damage in xnh 09:15 its been awhile since xnh has merged vanilla, you'd have to ask aosdict 09:15 yeah that's another one where I think it shouldn't just instakill you 09:16 I have the same feelings towards that as trapdoors 09:16 given the type of commits i'm seeing recently with vanilla, I feel like 3.7 is coming out of dev status soon(ish) 09:16 just a feeling 09:16 oh I think the xnethack commit is older and milder 09:17 I cannot confirm or deny that 09:17 i never pulled in that anti magic trap behavior to evilhack. too much 09:17 bhaak hah 09:17 we await the sue gray report 09:17 I think it'll be super interesting when 3.7 is on NAO 09:17 hah 09:18 we're beefing up our complaints dept 09:18 going from 3.6.6 to 3.7.0 will be quite the change 09:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 16455 points, T:3881, killed by a champion of Grumbar 09:19 that's a conversation i'll need to have with paxed and dtype - do we want NAO to have all 3.6.x games transition to 3.7, or have 3.6.6 and 3.7 side by side 09:20 (I'm leaning towards the former) 09:22 I'm surprised it's not just on NAO already tbh, seems like a good way to get ongoing feedback 09:22 NAO only runs official release versions 09:22 stability > everything else 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:48003 09:27 Sometimes I feel like Infidel stats skew far enough away from STR/CON (mostly the former) to really screw you on carrycap 09:27 I dunno if that feeling's really accurate, though 09:27 infidels are considered primary casters 09:27 so str and con are not their primary stats 09:28 plsu you're playing illithid, which have the worst str/con out of all the races 09:28 *plus 09:28 I was playing illithid 09:28 you should be relying more on spellcasting/ranged weapon attacks 09:28 And for them duh, it makes sense 09:29 It just feels like non-ith aren't much better, at least not to what I'd expect anyway 09:29 But like I said, it's probably not an entirely accurate feeling on my part 09:29 if you're expecting to tank as an infidel... dont 09:29 not early game anyways 09:30 which is what I typically try to seek out casting-friendly(ish) armor for, yeah 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Val Dwa Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3211 10:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:48729 10:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:49261 10:08 pfff trying to get Magicbane at this rate of sac success will take many hours of grinding 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Val Dwa Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3816 10:14 \o/ Got see invis from sitting on a throne! Shouldn't make me so happy, but after 45k turn of not being able to see myself... 10:14 xnethack doesn't contain anything original with regards to magic trap damage 10:15 I think I haven't merged vanilla since that was introduced, but when I next merge it it will be the vanilla behavior (because I also expect a tweak to vanilla) 10:20 anti-magic trap damage aosdict 10:20 https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/5ad45fc696448422b1daeda76d3f8b62361d9392 10:20 oh wow that was back in may 10:20 I thought it was like november 10:20 Graznop why didn't you get crwoned? 10:21 * crowned 10:22 wanted to get stuff from sacrifice - would take even longer 10:22 I think only prayer timeout is longer 10:23 it doesn't seem to make a difference for sacs 10:23 oh - I thought the sac timeout was the same as the prayer timeout... 10:23 well I am only going by feeling here... 10:24 maybe a developer can weigh in :-) 10:24 sac timeout after being crowned would be the same in evilhack as it would be for vanilla 3.6.6 10:25 also a bit puzzled - been less than 150 turns and now i can no longer see myself :-( 10:25 see invis from a throne is not permanent 10:25 K2 but what is the sac timeout in 3.6 10:26 i dont know exactly 10:26 suppose I'd better get crowned then 10:27 good idea. in evilhack, the benefits of being crowned outweigh the disadvantages 10:27 imo they do in vanilla also but not as much 10:27 btw mobileuser, why the desire for Magicbane - curse cathing? 10:27 yes, plus expert staff skill 10:28 I love having magicbane 10:28 me too 10:29 such a great weapon 10:29 i'm enjoying the Staff of Aesculpathingy at the moment 10:29 It's great, but not much use against drain-resistant monsters 10:30 pairing it with magicbane would be nice 10:33 yes, I'm still sacrificing hoping for something to use against drain resistant monsters 10:37 @e?monk 10:37 monk (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 2 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d8 kick physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: herbivore, nopoly, infravisible 10:38 Don't think any generic playmon corpses give stuff but wanted to be sure 10:42 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:49 yay monday 10:49 weeee 10:50 i'm saying this to reverse-jinx monday 10:54 doesn't work sry 10:54 monday had its fingers crossed behind its back 10:55 that bastard 10:55 * K2 shakes his fists at Monday 11:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Elf Mal Una), 7761 points, T:4694, quit 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a plumed helmet entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:41231 11:16 mobileuser: you are right - crowning doesn't affect the sac timeout, just the prayer timeout: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/pray.c#L1401 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 205 points, T:1171, killed by an elder pseudodragon 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (dwarves), on T:1 11:26 Graznop thx for checking! 11:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:50246 11:49 \o/ 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 11:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una) murdered Hecubus Jr., his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:686 12:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:50370 13:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:51056 13:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:51175 13:37 Graznop really 13:37 Magicbane already, I am jealous :b 13:37 yes, I've been lucky this run! 13:38 But I have Giantslayer, hahaha! 13:38 I'll just keep at it :-) 13:38 my Magicbane has already been cancelled though 13:39 heh 13:39 don't put it in your bag! 13:39 The way I see it, anything except for the very last artifact possible is a win 13:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:51424 13:43 Like that? 13:44 - only joking, spare sack 13:44 nice that the wand of cancellation is identified 13:46 oof! :-) 13:46 that explosion was for demonstration purposes ONLY!! do NOT try at home!! 13:49 lol 13:49 those BoH explosions are no joke 13:49 should exercise wisdom if you're wearing an alchemy smock and lenses 13:50 that's too brilliant an idea to not be real 13:51 I await the PR 13:52 I *really* need to pick a stopping point for 0.7.1 and start focusing on 0.8 13:52 lava fix then ship it for 0.7.1 13:52 e z 13:57 i need to read backscroll 13:58 ugh yeah 13:58 trapdoor fix too once vanilla has that 14:00 yup 14:00 heh yeah I tested that too on evilhack (castle to votd). doh 14:02 hmm, !likes_lava should probably be !likes_fire 14:02 that would have included fire vorticies 14:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had a spellbook of protection given to her by Hermes, on T:51463 14:10 level 25 and still spellbooks? :-( 14:11 a truly evil Hermes would give you book tokens! 14:11 lol 14:15 here we go - https://termbin.com/r2oy 14:23 K2 I think if poly'd it should be mh 14:23 instead of uhp 14:24 something like Upolyd ? u.mh : u.uhp 14:26 oh right 14:26 why you let me forget that? 14:28 don't blame me blame monday it made me do it 14:28 Molten lava incinerates its way down your gullet... You return to centaurian form! 14:28 that's better 14:28 more betterly 14:29 'You drink some molten lava. Mmmmm mmm!' hahah 14:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/47b0f2d6d6d9...2ccdc8aefd37 14:31 [EvilHack] k21971 2ccdc8a - Fix: drinking from a forge. 14:34 extra space on purpose? 14:38 yes 14:38 nethack spacing convention is two spaces after a period 14:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:40 whack 14:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1953 15:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:51874 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orcish dagger on an altar, on T:4030 15:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una), 3271 points, T:2860, quit 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5058 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:5420 15:58 I'm neutral - why would a grey unicorn be attacking me? It's not a shapechanger 16:00 at least it's easily solved by throwing it a gem 16:01 could have been a polytrap 16:03 got it caught in an acid cross-fire :-) 16:03 you were right - it was a polytrap 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 16:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2277 points, T:6640, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 16:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:54243 16:05 hahaha! 16:05 congrats! 16:05 thx! 16:08 \o/ 16:10 waiting for the 'mobileuser just blew up their bag of holding' message because you put MB in your bag 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish helm entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:6100 16:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1300 points, T:2920, killed by a large dog 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 608 points, T:1654, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:51 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 900 points, T:2009, killed by a water moccasin 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 827 points, T:1643, killed by a rock piercer 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:4114 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4788 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 12614 points, T:10617, killed by an ice vortex 21:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/2ccdc8aefd37...d4035a54db24 21:51 [EvilHack] k21971 d4035a5 - Fix: fall depth from Castle to the Valley of the Dead. 22:04 👍 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 3052 points, T:3524, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:60047 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:60109 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Val Dwa Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a rodent of unusual size, on T:7178 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2108 points, T:3546, killed by a water demon 23:19 what does a zruty look like? 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Val Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:7405 23:30 pseudodragons don't randomly spawn do they? 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:60627 23:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:60634