01:36 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:21 !setmintc 1000 02:21 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 set to 1000 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2405 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1369 points, T:4101, poisoned by a rotted glob of gray ooze 02:39 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Tou Gno Fem Neu) destroyed mightyquinn's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:4893 03:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Tou Gno Fem Neu) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:5323 03:08 mmm, magic spreads through my body on the very first magical breathing -- go xorn go 03:10 damn, got everything i tried for but none of my juiced damage rings :-( 03:12 E) a blessed +0 staff of holiness and venom 03:12 wow 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2619 points, T:2478, killed by a bugbear 03:12 heh -- two great tastes 03:12 gnomish wizards fireballs my ass 03:13 fireballed rather 03:13 early throne room 03:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:90616 03:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 18385 points, T:13778, killed by a gargoyle 03:50 that game sucked anyway. Tons of arrow traps, no bolt traps. By the time I had expert in crossbow I was emptying my meager quiver in 2 shots 03:50 bouquet: Message from Graznop at 2022-01-08 11:02 UTC: setting SPLEVTYPE lets you select the level you want in wizmode. Use the level descriptor from the .des file. e.g. `sudo SPLEVTYPE=soko4-3 ./evilhack -D` 03:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 303 points, T:766, killed by a piranha 04:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:92461 04:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:92462 04:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 3446 points, T:4342, killed by a rothe 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Tou Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6224 05:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Tou Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:7435 07:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/J9GnX 07:22 [EvilHack] k21971 4da36e1 - Return polearm skill for Priests. 07:22 [EvilHack] k21971 9cab94f - Apply a wielded polearm with fire-command. 07:23 Sick 07:23 !who 07:23 K2: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 07:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:40 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:47 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 07:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:01 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2523 08:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:04 -!- Guest2523 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:06 "Revert ball & chain being rustproof, prevent either from rusting away completely" 11:06 sigh 11:06 my dancing on a rust trap was for nothing then 11:10 ok WTF 11:11 oh I thought for a moment I had lost my ball and chain after falling down the stairs 11:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:23771 12:08 oh well -- found the graz'zt level, gonna die 12:10 with the impossibility of a boulder fort i suppose i could just #quit and save anybody else this bones 12:12 rebatela: got em 12:20 why is boulder fort impossible? 12:22 monster awake and right next to me on descent, along with the specter and a couple of titans -- no time for setup, i have 0 rounds 12:22 and if experience guides me 1 round is all graz'zt needs to ruin me, that is how it went last tiem 12:23 debating taking the upstairs and to the mostly empty level above which will get rid of one titan but ugh, i might be happier giving up 12:24 looks ugly 12:25 looks like you've got away? 12:26 i lucked the crap out 12:26 he had some residual damage and nobody else followed me up, so i bounced back down -- i can probably take out rebatela and then worry about graz'zt later 12:26 just amazingly lucky 12:27 skill, surely ;) 12:27 i have honed my "<>" skills extensively 12:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:34 one of the titans is whaling on me with Fire Brand 12:38 ah well, he disintegrated Fire Brand on me 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful black pudding, on T:93776 12:42 how could you 12:42 i may not have to worry about graz'zt if i can't even kill a titan 12:43 those will be pretty souped up 12:43 you're not hitting because of two-weaponing 12:44 VaderFLAG had the same situation with a rebatela bones 12:44 i'm just hoping for a luck decapitation 12:44 oh no 12:44 yeah the titans are all sorts of kitted out 12:45 there we go, BAM 12:45 they have reflection and like -30 ac 12:45 and one has fire brand one has frost brand. graz't should have both eyes 12:45 nope, i have frost brand, and Reuben disintegrated his fire brand on me 12:46 lol 12:46 i think the rebatela specter was killed bey reuben somewhere, i pacified your bones 12:46 no good loot in evidence yet 12:46 ah ok 12:47 the bag of holding has to be somehwere 12:47 has 2 markers and a WoW 1:1 12:47 i see two bags of holding, neither dragonhide, but i need to kill some eyes before i can really look around 12:47 yeah the titans were probably carrying their own bas 12:47 bags 12:47 mine was the dragonhide 12:48 one of the titans was carrying a safe at one point... 12:50 should be reflective barding on the woolly mammoth as well if that's your thing 12:50 man, and that wasn't even the hard part of the bones 12:51 you killed graz't right? i was logged out. no backscroll 12:53 pretty sure graz't stole both eyes 12:53 nope 12:53 i took the stairs up, he teleported, i took the stairs down 12:53 so he is c*ckblocking DL41 12:53 no dragonhide bag in evidence, no idea what happened to your specter 12:54 maybe he curse level gained or something 12:54 but his bag is not present 12:54 i think i only had one cursed gain level 12:54 although it could have made a wish 12:55 damn, cleaver in bag -- why couldn't it have been fire brand in the bag 12:55 heh. because they would wield it. it's hard to get the titans to wield most of the weapons i had 12:55 i'm gonna have to resort to ttyrec to see what happened to all the worthwhile loot, this has been nothing but crap so far 12:55 that sucks that artifacts can disintegrate like that 12:56 graz't must have it 12:56 2nd artifact disintegrated this game, i disintegrated my first artifact weapon, angelslayer on a baby black dragon on its first swing 12:56 do Titans know not to put BoH in BoH? 12:56 No, i think i saw rebatela do something with a dragonhide bag of holding 12:56 it was the hesprides bag that i had 12:56 there is a bag of tricks in this bag of holding one dropped but it might be empty 12:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:59 Has to be empty, would explode the bag otherwise 13:00 i've never seen a monster explode a bag 13:03 well the ttyrec shows rebatela the specter calmly putting all his shit into his dragonhide bag of holding and then poof 13:04 no ruther record 13:04 spectre probably levelported 13:04 why would a tamed mob levelport 13:04 cursed tele or gain level 13:04 well were you fighting it? 13:05 no, he was my pet 13:05 the spectre? 13:05 yes 13:05 the only mob woos enough for me to tame :-) 13:05 you can tame bones ghosts? 13:05 no offense 13:06 i would want the markers and the death wands etc wow 13:08 i wouldn't turn them down but poof 13:14 i still don't understand how/why you tamed the ghost 13:14 i was trying to tame the titans 13:14 oic 13:15 well at least we know graz't has the artifacts 13:15 are you a spellcaster? eota is great for branchporting regardless 13:15 lame tourist of lameness 13:15 ok you can tame bone spectres? that is very good to know 13:16 it was an accident 13:16 probably unintended 13:16 wouldn't hold on to the knowledge for too long lol 13:16 accident, but it could be strat 13:16 let's not name the name now ;-) 13:17 lol 13:17 j1 13:17 oof that's risky 13:18 fighting bones spectres is actually super fun 13:18 i always seem to end up fighting my own 13:20 i SHOULD HAVE done what you're doing now krm26 (regrouped) 13:20 * rebatela blames alcohol 13:20 i could have gathered weapons and made a boulder fort 13:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20 i'm still not sure how i'll tackle graz'zt 13:21 at least your alive to think about it though 13:21 you weren't able to tame the titans huh? 13:21 i guess boulder fort below, ascend, descend? he might end up outside the boulder fort? that seems sus 13:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Odin, on T:24307 13:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:21 oh nice, stairs on level 4 surrounded by spear traps 13:21 no, had to kill both titans. one was only very hard but the other i had to luck-decapitate with vorpal blade 13:22 thank you J1 13:22 i wish i had woken up a little earlier i could have watched all of it and i wouldn't be so confused/asking questions 13:22 gerry was the one i eventually killed toe-to-toe; Reuben was the REALLY tough one -- the one who disintegrated fire brand on me 13:22 but i purposely had the titans WITH me so that if i splatted someone would get them in the bones 13:22 both for the challenge and for the gear 13:23 did you say one of them had vorpal blade? i am lucky that was my primary weapon or *I* would have been decapitated 13:23 i forget if one of them had it 13:23 my intention was for one to be carrying it around though 13:23 i thought i gave one sword of kas but that probably doesn't survive bones 13:24 the brands were the only thing artifacts i could get them to wield 13:24 so i enchanted them 13:24 i had enchanted vorpal blade too but they wouldn't wield because lawful 13:25 yeah, so my net is 0 artifacts 13:25 it's actually a cool way to bones stuff because they can carry a ridiculous (infiinite?) amount of crap 13:25 and it won't be cursed 13:26 SO FAR... i know for a fact graz't has both eyes... 13:26 and you already have dragonbane, otherwise the spectre has that too 13:26 i was SO psyched to get that dragonbane from god 13:27 will a tame spectre use the wishes? 13:28 i don't think so 13:28 but being able to tame a bones ghost is news to me 13:28 he shouldn't have run away tame either 13:28 i invite you to tty dive 13:29 maybe he drank a gain level and it was cursed? 13:29 yeah i htink i had ONE cursed gain level 13:29 if he did he did it off-screen 13:29 !lastgame rebatela 13:29 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1639804371.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1640181105.evil.html 13:29 something probably happened over lava 13:30 he was shuffling stuff in his bag and i had to blind myself and saw no more 13:30 87 boulders lol 13:31 one cursed gl in the bag 13:31 gl? 13:32 gain level 13:33 when vaderflag had similar bones of mine that's exactly what a titan did 13:33 actually it WISHED for a cursed gl and then bounced 13:34 but not sure why it would do that tame 13:34 other than the fact that you probably shouldn't be able to tame it in the first place 13:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vnF1W35czk 13:34 pets will drink gl if you give them one 13:38 "Graz'zt starts to rummage through your possessions..." 13:38 Graz'zt stole the blessed Eye of the Aethiopica. (so we KNOW where that is) 13:39 and he had stole the other Eyes before 13:39 yeah, and that is disappointing, since i probably need to kill him with wands of lightning 13:39 stop destroying artifacts!!! 13:39 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:39 once you have the taste for it 13:40 i almost have enough shuriken to enchant and train as a dagger alternate 13:40 shuriken are so freaking awesome once you train 13:40 just rare as hell... next game i'm gonna make a STACK 13:41 urgh how in hell do i tackle this guy, my brain is just going in pointless circles 13:43 In the ttyrec "You hear a chugging sound" on the turn the spectre disappears 13:43 yeah, it seems likely his wand of wishing is lost on graz'zt's level where i dare not go again 13:43 Also one wish used on a potion of full healing 13:45 poly into a dragon and engulf 13:45 i have a vague recollection of once trying to pre-boulderfort on stairs and the demon prince just ignored it and occupied the boulder space 13:49 well if it was a cursed gain level and not a scroll he should just be on the level above 13:49 right, the (new) graz'zt level 13:52 ahhh 13:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 13:52 well don't be like me and not prepare.... Dude this is the same boat I was in... How the F am i gonna kill him? 13:53 damn forgot I am a dwarf and ate one 13:53 whoops 13:53 aggravate monster for life? 13:53 accidental cannibalism is a real worry in nethack :-) 13:53 just like in real life 13:54 yeah aggravate monster now 13:54 fitting for a convict... 13:55 easyBabyHack would have paranoid cannibalism :) 13:58 paranoid canniblism is a great idea 13:58 i understand how it doesn't properly simulate how easy it is in real life to eat your spouse, but it IS just a game 14:04 lol 14:04 I'm probably carrying an uncursed luckstone, need to stash it to lose the bad luck 14:05 but I fell down a shaft so I first need to make it back 14:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:24372 14:08 I think rebatela is secretly leaving high-challenge bones on purpose. "Let's see if those #evilhack folks can handle THIS one" 14:08 haha 14:08 i most certainly made sure the pets were with me... 14:08 but i didn't want to die 14:08 gonna be spending my morning trying to eat grazzt in wiz mode 14:09 but yeah it was in the back of my head after your encounter vaderflag. If i had to do it again, what would I arm the titans with etc. 14:09 you can use a wizkit file to give your wiz mode character your equipment each time, might save some time wishing it up 14:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] michasus (Kni Hum Mal Law), 178 points, T:1242, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 14:09 not sure if wizkit file understands object properties or not but probably does? 14:10 properties and materials 14:10 i was saying earlier, they can carry what seems to be an infinite amount of stuff.. and they will load up a bag of holding with all sorts of crap 14:10 oh it will do, each line gets read by the wish thing 14:10 but you can loot them now 14:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#wizkit 14:10 it's fun looting them and seeing what they have picked up 14:11 it was borderline bones stuffing... But like i said i didn't WANT to die (just knew it was likely) 14:12 i thought fire brand and frost brand and dragonbane and both eyes would be nice gifts 14:13 plus the markers and death wands...i wouldn't hold your breath on the wish... 14:13 yeah i don't think engulfing graz'zt is going to work 14:13 why not? 14:14 because the spectre will use it 14:14 although if it's tame? 14:14 it won't be tame anymore probably. if it ran 14:14 but i was gonna say if it's tame you can just loot it for the boh 14:14 i'm sure the specter wasted all the wishes, and the artifacts were duplicates or disintegrated 14:15 well graz't has the quest artifacts 14:15 and you're neutral 14:15 so you should be good there 14:15 in wiz mode it looks like i'm unlikely ever to hit to engulf, and grazzts teleportation means no sustained melee -- one round of misses, stripped of items, teleport away 14:15 the spectre has already used one wish, so the wand is now 0:0 - so wishes left 14:15 the bag of holding will become a regular dragonhide bag of holding 14:15 because you alrady have the artifact one 14:15 dragonbane you already have 14:16 i don't know if those become dragonhide gloves? or is it just not there? 14:16 have dragonbane, have frost brand, have vorpal blade, have hesperides, disintegrated fire brand, got cleaver (yay) -- loose graz'zt and tamed specter on same level 14:16 oh the spectre made a wish? 14:16 i was sleeping when all this was going on 14:16 what did it wish for? 14:16 yup, for a potion of full healing 14:16 THIS IS ME 14:16 oh man 14:17 i must have needed it 14:17 considering nothing was attacking him 14:17 must have been thirsty 14:17 it's wild hearing about your ghost making wishes 14:17 krm26: did you try being very fast? 14:18 using a level 22 hobbit polymorphed into a silver dragon 14:19 i need to do local install today 14:19 i need linux for dummies evilhack install instructions 14:20 i just upgraded to mint 20.3 14:20 sh sys/unix/setup.sh sys/unix/hints/linux-debug 14:20 ah - i was level 30 when i ate Graz'zt 14:20 make fetch-lua && make && make install 14:20 oh wait evilhack doesn't have lua ignore that 14:20 make && make install 14:21 it can't possibly be that easy ? 14:21 god i hope it is 14:21 * rebatela is jealous of everyone else being able to wiztest 14:26 so just type all the same but without the 'lua' ? 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 243 points, T:1491, killed by a sling bullet 14:28 ok, it is possible to get a random engulf as a silver dragon 14:29 unfortunately it is pretty easy to be knocked out of form, at which point you are unlikely to still be holding the resources to transform back 14:29 so that has a nonzero chance of working but it is rolling the dice pretty hard 14:29 did you max luck before attacking? 14:30 no, true 14:30 I think to-hit is a luck-biased dice roll, so it might help a lot for that 14:31 i don't think engulf is simply to hit tho, right? another chance on top of that? i should look 14:34 krm26 luck is maxed by the valley... 14:35 remember having this conversation before i splatted? lol 14:35 it's not why I died. But I did not have maxed luck so definitely max it out just in case it factors into something 14:36 you said you were like mary poppins haha 14:36 looks like engulf requires find_roll_to_hit > rnd(20+attacknumthatround) 14:36 practically perfectly defeated 14:38 find_roll_to_hit gets luck/3 added 14:44 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:45 so i guess plan A is go in as a silver dragon with no inventory and hope to engulf in one or two rounds 14:46 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 508 points, T:2219, killed by a flint stone 14:47 i wish i remembered the exact map of the level he's on -- it is possible he's still at the downstairs, so if i descend i would have a round to drop a boulder fort, assuming the level's geography permits that...might be one of the levels with stairs by open lava 14:47 so plan B would be pray, descend, boulder fort 14:47 that has to be higher probability of success 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:907 14:49 you could look at the ttyrec to determine that 14:50 i'm pretty lazy, i've never bothered to install a ttyrec viewer, i just use vi 14:50 this is the one I use, it's in a few package managers 14:50 https://angband.pl/termrec.html 14:51 stenno is working on a browser term rec viewer though I think 14:51 not tried it yet but maybe it works for you? https://stenno.github.io 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (elves), on T:1 14:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2565 points, T:3957, killed by a rothe 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:55 F 14:55 heh 14:56 with an early co-aligned altar dammit 14:56 sry, was laughing at post163 14:57 yeah they love to kill themselves asap 14:57 doesnt get any faster than that 14:58 the perfect game 14:58 oh wow mobileuser died 14:58 rip :( 14:58 that's a rare sight 14:59 rip indeed. did you have a streak? 14:59 that browser ttyrec viewer is awesome !! (but i can't get it to work) 15:00 is it supposed to work? I was talking to him about it the other day 15:01 didnt know about it, working fine for me 15:01 unfortunately no way to pick a frame that i can see 15:01 streak 1 ended rebatela :-) 15:01 oh ok well that's not so bad ;) 15:01 i just never see you die 15:01 those rothes are tough tho 15:01 but with convict I expect a series of splats anyway 15:01 yeah convict is insane 15:02 just salty that on the first one I had a colaligned altar 15:02 doesn't seem to work for me if I do a ttyrec via url but does if I choose file for it 15:02 hmmm. yeah, i've tried both 15:02 gonna try in chrome 15:02 i think my convict ascension was part of my one tiny ascension streak 15:03 doing it in chrome from file 15:03 oh ok it works for me 15:03 url part worked fine in chrome 15:04 just has a sizeable hang on load 15:04 this is so awesome 15:04 how do i send a message? 15:04 tell? 15:04 !tell 15:04 rebatela: !tell (leave a message for someone) 15:04 !tell rebatela !tell (leave a message for someone) 15:04 rebatela shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 15:05 yep. thanks i figured it out 15:05 rebatela: Message from amateurhour at 2022-01-09 15:04 UTC: !tell (leave a message for someone) 15:05 !tell amateurhour testing. thank you 15:05 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, rebatela. 15:05 \o/ 15:05 amateurhour: Message from rebatela at 2022-01-09 15:05 UTC: testing. thank you 15:05 but does everyone see the typing part too? 15:05 that's the part i'm confused about 15:05 the what? 15:05 or only i see that? 15:06 like that i've typed the command 15:06 or that's private? 15:06 yeah it's in public 15:06 oh ok 15:06 I think you can maybe private message the bot to do it secretly, but not sure 15:06 might have been broken by the switch to libera 15:07 oh this is sad watching this game with the titans 15:07 i was kicking butt https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/r/rebatela/evilhack/ttyrec/2022-01-08.16:00:59.ttyrec.gz 15:09 yeah it's too bad there doesn't seem a way to jump to frame or change speed etc. 15:09 great idea though. he's probably still working on it 15:10 yay found another colaligned altar 15:10 how will I fuck up this time :b 15:11 damn, seems to have crashed after about 20k frames 15:16 there it goes 15:17 well the not-fatal news is the level may support boulderforting if grazzt isnt already at the upstairs 15:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:26485 15:26 so i have a tentative plan and now need to figure out my escape plan for when it horribly fails 15:27 damn i wish someone had beaten me to rebatela's bones 15:27 *if* i survive i'm betting on a net resource drain 15:27 boohoo 15:27 you're gonna get both eyes and you're neutral (so can actually use them) 15:28 and 2 markers 15:28 and death wands 15:28 i'm gonna leave yet another bones for YOU 15:28 and 87 boulders 15:28 hehe 15:28 one level higher 15:28 gotta find some titans to take with me 15:29 you killed Reuben and Gerry. You monster 15:29 gerry, only Reuben got a capital 15:29 what do you mean? you tamed it? 15:29 damn i was so close to sleazing fire brand out of that mess 15:30 no i killed them both, but their names were "gerry" and "Reuben" 15:30 lower g, upper R 15:30 yeah F black dragons and everything related to them 15:30 oh haha 15:30 originally it was Reuben and Cerise 15:30 but Cerise disappeared 15:30 i keep meaning to swap the black dsm out for something else but on the other hand it is a big chunk of my offense 15:30 she had even better gear 15:30 there were 3 titans at one point 15:30 alright, gonna go stew on this a while 15:31 good luck if i'm not around when you face graz't 15:37 oh wow i think i just found bones myself 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5570 15:49 dog named Lucy? anybody? what's about to kill me ? 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:26933 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:6257 15:54 yay! finally a BoH! 15:54 nice! (the kathryn bag?) 15:54 game is so weird... I just found one! but i'm only at 6k turns 15:57 yes, the bag of hesper-something-or-other. Been really trying going through the dungeon so far - must have a dozen piles of stuff to consolidate... 15:59 morning 15:59 ish 16:00 heya K2 welcome back 16:01 surprised no one has commented on the last couple commits 16:01 :P 16:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dwa Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3079 16:05 good morning K2 16:06 o/ 16:07 morning 16:07 tiniest of tiny issues: just did a reverse genocide and got "you feel guilty", but #conduct still shows "you have never abused your alignment" 16:08 k2: link to said commits? 16:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 16:10 Graznop what's your alignment 16:10 neutral 16:11 that's why 16:11 yayayay using wielded polearm with f 16:11 that's one of the more big good for less sad changes I suggested like a year ago 16:11 \o/ 16:11 got it - only lawfuls get the alignment hit - so I shouldn't get a guilty message? 16:11 right 16:11 easy fix 16:11 polearms for priests? what is this EASYBABYHACK?? 16:11 well just one polearm 16:13 just messing around obviously it's a good idea 16:14 -!- Pinkbeas1 has joined #evilhack 16:16 K2 I saw the commit, can priest be centaur I wondered 16:18 Yay :-) 16:18 and skilled, nice! 16:18 but is lucern hammer the only allowed polearm for priest K2? 16:19 without to hit penalty or pissing off their deity, yes 16:19 all the others are edged 16:19 wikiing... 16:19 in vanilla, a lot of polearms are flagged as both piercing/bashing, or piercing/slashing, etc 16:20 any extra weapon for a priest is a good thing 16:20 a long time ago I got rid of the bipolar nature of weapons like that 16:20 lucern hammer is a bit meh but not too bad 16:20 its a ranged option a priest otherwise did not have 16:21 yeah, nice addition. I love to pound. 16:22 aren't real lucern hammers not blunt weapons or something 16:22 it seems AD&D caused confusion treating lucern hammer as a blunt weapon 16:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J9GHb 16:22 [EvilHack] k21971 75830f3 - Fix: 'You feel guilty' feedback when alignment wasn't abused. 16:22 oh well if it's in the ancient tomes then it's canon 16:23 an actual lucern hammer has a blunt face along with a pokey bit at the top 16:23 and a hook opposite the blunt face 16:24 the blunt part would sometimes be a pronged hammer face 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1866 points, T:4115, killed by a giant beetle 16:24 https://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/aa/original/14.25.222_002dec2014.jpg 16:24 for nethack purposes its the only polearm with the 'bash' designation 16:24 it doesn't rly matter as if it's blunt in the ad&d lore then that's that innit 16:25 the ancient tomes have spoken 16:25 if it's 'bash', priests can use it without penalty. and priests originally can train up to skilled in polearm 16:25 I just re-added what was taken away 16:26 the lord taketh and then the lord giveth partially back, or something :P 16:29 hah 16:46 -!- Pinkbeas1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:59 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) had a spear entrusted to him by Odin, on T:28071 19:03 alright, spent the morning thinking about it and have come to the conclusion it is just too dangerous and i should give up 19:05 i'm thinking this is the perfect strategy for handling a loose, already-in-process graz'zt -- see his name, #quit to deny him the satisfaction 19:15 my wizmode silver dragon engulf tests have 1 success, 23 failures, which aren't awesome odds 19:17 anything else you can do to get your to hit chances up? 19:17 increase accuracy isn't edible in this game 19:18 but i'm not a fan of any strategy which is a single round's roll of the dice 19:18 graz'zt is so unforgiving with his stun-steal-teleport away cycle 19:24 why can't you build another boulder fort? 19:24 i might be able to, it depends -- when i first encountered him he was active on the upstairs, now i don't know where he is. if i get a round i should be able to boulder fort descending from above 19:25 Or, he is right there and the cycle begins 19:25 i like graz'zt notionally but i'm displeased that he seems so very "stunlock/strip" or "trivial boulder fort" 19:25 there must be something i'm missing 19:26 if you come up from below, you'll be able to see him move away from the stairs, then go down and level teleport to above him? 19:26 Yes, my hope is he is still by the downstairs, so i can descend, he can start to teleport towards me, but i'm about 3 teleports away so i'll be ok 19:27 best of luck! 19:27 i don't wanna :-( i hate graz'zt 19:29 nope, i lost the bet and want to die 19:29 he disintegrated dirge on me, my third artifact death this game 19:31 good thing i don't keep anything important in my head so i won't need that hat he took 19:31 graz'zt apparently instantly covers any distance with his teleport, which is...something 19:33 crap, i might not even kill him with a boulder fort, i'm missing constantly 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:94526 19:35 I had one dagger left 19:36 congrats! 19:36 i don't feel good about this, and not just because of adrenaline toxicity 19:37 is the spectre with the loot on the level? 19:37 yes -- no longer my pet, so i have to hunt him down now and kill or convert him 19:38 Graz'zt did have the eyes and the eye 19:38 and the ex-dragonbane 19:39 and who knows what kink the polished barding is for 19:39 i wonder why graz'zt violates the normal demon teleport rules 19:40 :( 19:41 i think i owe it to rebatela to pacify him again instead of killing him 19:44 would be pretty cool if you could ascend with him tagging along! 19:49 i'm not sure how i'd keep him tame that long 19:49 i'm not made of scrolls 19:51 no magic whistle? 19:57 sure, but won't he lose tameness over time since i can't feed him? 19:57 oooh, rebatela's pegasus 19:58 woah what's happening 19:59 you're doomed to respond to my whistle now 20:00 unfortunately i can't tame your pegasus, retaming you when i came back for graz'zt took all my scrolls 20:01 he shouldn't lose tameness unless you leave him behind or abuse him 20:01 i thought everyone lost tameness over time no matter what? 20:01 i might just be dumb however 20:02 a pet Archon doesn't, or Arch-Lich - they don't eat either 20:02 i shoujld have had like 20 apples with me or something 20:03 that's all you need. don't have to charm 20:03 yeah some things don't eat 20:03 some things do a great job of feeding themselves 20:03 some things absolutely suck and you gotta feed all the time (woolly's pegasus etc.) 20:04 some things suck and eat all the corpses you want (Titans) 20:04 haha 20:04 but at least they don't go hungry 20:04 i love them 20:04 best pets imo 20:04 so when i went back, rebatela, hoping graz wasn't at the up stairs if i came back from above -- he was, and he trounced me for a round 20:05 yes, they're safe to leave behind for quite a while 20:05 but i had two rounds to unstun and read earth. finally got him down with 1 dagger left 20:05 he'd stolen my hat and some other junk 20:05 nice man! 20:05 playing guitar and watching football. i missed it 20:05 what about the spectre though? 20:06 i've got you as a pet 20:06 hahaa 20:06 gonna go back to my stash soon and kit you out 20:06 so when you finally betray me you can have your revenge 20:06 bwahahaha 20:06 i'm dying over here trying to explain this to my non-nethack playing friend 20:06 thinking of giving you magicbane to swing 20:07 i have cleaver, magicbane, ogresmasher available (grazzt disintegrated dirge on me with his first swing) 20:07 did you get the boh? 20:07 ooh, i have lifestealer, as a spectre i bet you can swing that 20:07 i got everything 20:07 markers? 20:07 everything 20:07 nice! 20:07 i assume the wand of wishing is empty tho 20:07 haven't done full id yet 20:08 well that was the thing... i didn't know whether to leave stuff behind and or bring the pets... I almost left the bag behind when i went at it 20:08 glad i didn't! 20:08 you got the eyes'? 20:08 i am eyed and eyes'd 20:08 :) 20:08 although i just learned that the eyes don't save you from magical eyes, dammit 20:09 it saves you from the stunning 20:09 ah, just not luck loss? 20:09 just not the luck hit and it burns stuff in your inventory i think still 20:09 beholders it blocks which is huge 20:09 and archon stunning gaze (vanilla) 20:09 but not medusa 20:10 it's actually great not having to worry about beholders 20:10 eota is even better though if you're casting spells (also the branchport) 20:11 i'm gonna keep my flight thank you very much 20:11 but i will use the branchport 20:18 you get the PW regeneration just carrying it ;) 20:18 MR you have to wear it for these days 20:18 but the pw you get 20:19 THAT'S what makes it badass... 20:19 even in vanilla 20:19 it lets you do things too like stack haste or reflection spell... 20:20 i'm sure you have reflection some other way.. but like when i play giant sometimes i do that 20:22 yeah, tourist, not a big caster 20:22 well, time for me to bake a little, back later -- in the end, thx for the bones :-) 20:24 EotE will let you spam magic missile as a tourist 20:30 yeah i was gonna say.. magic missile does a ton of damage 20:30 at high levels and you can actually cast repeatedly with the eye 20:31 you're looking the artifact gift horse in the mouth 20:31 actually... you had to earn the shit lol 20:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28594 20:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:28828 20:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28854 21:01 gogogo Graznop 21:02 yay! have to wait for tomorrow now... 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2216 21:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 22:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:10307 22:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:33 hmmm I couldn't get rid of the iron ball by burying it and dragging 22:33 I wonder if that is vanilla or evilhack 22:39 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+bionic2 - https://znc.in] 22:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J9Gja 22:48 [EvilHack] k21971 d3f3abd - Fix: perm_invent update when applying a bag of tricks. 22:48 mobileuser, vanilla 22:49 i think 22:58 couldn't find it on the wiki for vanilla... 22:58 anyway, got a nymph to steal it :-) 22:58 bedtime for me, see you later! 22:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:10372 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10783 23:33 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack