00:23 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Gno Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:7636 01:30 hmm qt timed out 01:30 I wonder if the lava being vis like that is because it gives off light 01:32 i would think a lot more of it would be visible then, it is only occasional squares 01:36 I'm just thinkiung maybe because a lava tile is lit, maybe that's part of the bug 01:36 a factor 01:36 *thinking 02:38 any suggestions for a chaotic ranger weapon training in anticipation of future artifacts? Are short swords worthwhile? 02:39 yes -- frost/fire brand 02:39 but your first future artifact should be the ring of p'hul! 02:39 scrolls of amnesia can be used to reset our training now, right? 02:40 so I could potentially spend points on shortsword since they're plentiful. THen maybe later read amnesia and train up a weapon class that is provided from my deity? 02:40 why spend any points? unless it is your current best weapon 02:40 ya, my best option so far is this mithril short sword 02:41 well if you are lucky you can be dual wielding fire/frost later 02:41 I guess I could train daggers since those end up being the go-to for ranged classes 02:41 no, daggers suck, too heavy 02:41 shuriken or bust 02:41 ya, but those aren't bountiful like in the samurai quest. 02:42 you're a ranger, won't you use your bow/xbow for ranged? 02:42 yup, but I'm running out of bolts, can't find any aligned altars or holy water to keep them from breaking 02:43 darts are lighter and plentiful from traps (but usually bolts are plentiful from traps too) 02:43 but the amnesia thing works, right? If I need to reassign skill points because my deity gives me Stormbringer I might as well. 02:43 the mines should yield at least 100 bolts 02:43 i have no idea about amnesia, let me source dive if K2 isn't around 02:44 no, amnesia forgets spells 02:44 not skills 02:44 dang 02:45 I've lost skill points before. Was that due to a mindflayer? 02:45 according to a 7 second source dive 02:45 yes, brain eating from zombies, mind flayers 02:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:46 your ideal weapons are gonna be fire/frost/stormbringer/angelslayer maybe? i think? 02:46 if I survive that long I'll do it 02:46 you should have plenty of skill points 02:46 bbl 02:46 but i bet you can get a bunch more bolts out of the mines 02:52 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as ChrisANG 03:02 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/321b894a2f948084efcf6668efcf57e5183a60c0 03:02 Wow, just found Vorpal Blade lying around on the first Gehennom level; found Demonbane on the castle floor, and Dragonbane in a shop on DL2 03:02 i'm worried i'm being set up for a big fall 03:05 WTF wand of wishing on the ground 03:05 what version am i playing 03:07 omg so lucky 03:07 err mah gerd 03:07 this is like all the luck for my next 7 runs so i better not blow it 03:07 heh 03:07 almost makes me feel better about accidentally cancelling all of my pegasus acid AGAIN 03:08 like clockwork, loot the acid potions early, go do something else, forget why i have them, finally kill kathryn, no way through bars 03:08 it is as regular an event as blowing up my first bag of holding 03:35 i can see myself wishing for a potion of acid soon 03:37 heh 03:38 that's why the Lady wouldn't give you any artifacts. They were already strewn around the dungeon 03:39 is there a way in wizmode to spawn a particular soko level for practicing? 03:39 hmm no 03:40 I could probably just remove the other soko4 levels so it's the only one generated maybe? 03:40 what you could do is get to the soko level you want and then just reload the map until you get the one you want 03:40 there are a LOT of possibilities tho 03:40 add a wizmode command to type a level to load 03:40 not really 03:40 oh, hadn't thought of that. 03:40 just a handful per level 03:41 BIND=V:wizmakemap 03:41 BIND=v:wizlevelport 03:41 BIND=B:wizmap 03:41 ^ that's the commands for my wizmode cfg 03:41 spam V until you get the level you want 03:43 thanks, k2 03:44 o/ 04:10 i know i shouldn't feel disappointed that the random wand of wishing is 1:1, but damn -- only one i've ever found in evil 04:17 argh, why isn't there an alchemy recipe for acid 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) refused to give up The Platinum Yendorian Express Card to Twoflower, on T:78905 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:78906 04:21 sigh 04:23 wtf, i am blasted by my own quest artifact's power now? 04:30 Your alignment's shit is why 05:33 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 145 points, T:1083, killed by trying to drink molten lava 08:06 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8546 08:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:08 -!- Guest8546 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45618 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:46219 08:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 275539 points, T:46350, killed by a blue dragon 09:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 12559 points, T:13423, killed by a gray unicorn 10:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 278 points, T:1477, killed by a water elemental, while praying 10:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 10:35 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:42 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 11:02 !tell bouquet: setting SPLEVTYPE lets you select the level you want in wizmode. Use the level descriptor from the .des file. e.g. `sudo SPLEVTYPE=soko4-3 ./evilhack -D` 11:02 Will do, Graznop! 11:04 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 11:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 11:12 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:08 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 12:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2105 points, T:3670, killed by a rothe 12:09 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 12:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5257 12:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3566 points, T:5877, zombified by a gnome zombie, while praying 12:26 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 12:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4013 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) refused to give up The Eyes of the Overworld to the Grand Master, on T:64537 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Grand Master, on T:64539 12:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 4483 points, T:5584, killed by a fire elemental of Crom 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:65129 12:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:52 i had 3 pet titans and one disappeared and he's all sorts of armed... I really don't want to run into him on the way up with the amulet 12:52 but it's gotta be somehwerew 12:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a Kop Kaptain, on T:12940 12:59 i guess titans don't leave corpses, but all his gear would be somewhere if he died. I had the 3 of them with me. so weird 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13511 13:27 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 13:31 if they aren't veggie i always feed pets an eye so i can keep close tabs on them 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:66309 13:34 what technique did you use? 13:35 boulder him to death? 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:79379 13:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:14428 13:44 @e? graz't 13:44 graz't ~1~ Graz'zt (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 85 | Generates: unique | AC: -9 | Attacks: 4d8 weapon physical, 6d6 claw stun, 4d6 cast clerical, 3d6 claw item steal | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 13:45 krm26: me? You mean with kas? I just meleed him 13:45 i don't think i'm gonna bother with vecna though 13:45 time to leave graz't bones with kitted out titan pets again (really feels like deja vu) 13:47 someone mentioned a strategy of carrying some weaker attack wands so that it would steal them and zap them at you instead of stealing more shit ? 13:48 that seems like a pretty solid idea 13:49 a bag full of junk to paw through 13:49 i mean, ideally i should try to NOT be next to him, but i've only fought once or twice and the last time like i was saying last night i think the titan screwed up my fort 13:49 i think he is blindable with lightning, not sure how useful that is tho. can also rubber chicken him 13:56 is the stealing attack success based on luck at all ? 13:57 like i should probably make sure i'm maxed or is it just random i wonder 13:57 don't think so, luck is normally always maxed by the valley tho 13:58 you never kill pets? magic eyes? mine definitely gets messed with at times 13:59 a lot of times by the time i offer the amulet in the dump log i'm definitely not extremely lucky or whatever. often unlucky (but obviously at that point i don't care) 13:59 like mary poppins i am practically perfect in every way 13:59 so it's just a dice roll ? Like i know the wizard will try to steal 1/20 of the time (vanilla) but i don't know what the success is based on 13:59 whether stats come into it or not 14:00 3d6 claw steal item 14:05 quick glance in mhitu.c and steal.c makes it look like graz'zt just rolls a normal to hit on you to steal something 14:05 K2/qt can correct or I can try to look more carefully 14:07 and of course he can take your lev/flt, your mr, your reflection, etc. and you will eat turns while taking armor off 14:08 one thing to do is exterminate the level above, boulder the stairs up, cursed invis and ascend when he arrives to give yourself a mostly empty level to chase him around naked :-) 14:09 or stand naked on the upstairs with a few sacks full of shit wands and your killing gear at your feet; let him steal from you, then grab your weapons and go to town 14:10 but graz'zt is the single demon prlord i am most committed to boulder fort sleaze for 14:10 i had my most ignominious death ever the first time i saw him 14:11 [EvilHack] NetSysFire starred EvilHack - https://git.io/J9srV 14:11 forgot to do this all the time /o\ 14:11 [EvilHack] renanbirck starred EvilHack - https://git.io/J9srw 14:11 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 14:21 krm26: thanks i appreciate it. Yeah, I'm gonna give it some thought... Last time i was drunk and just said F it and got him down to like 6 hp or something and then things went really bad 14:22 yeah -- i think in theory para and petrification are both useful, but you need real cojones to chance it 14:22 heh. exactly 14:22 although are you monking? magic missile might do it without equipment 14:22 i never do the paralysis thing even in vanilla. i know other people love those potions 14:22 high level attack spell through him 14:23 yeah i mean. I'm lvl 30. if i could mm from boulder fort that would be ideal! 14:23 i've never seen him on a caster 14:23 that's how i killed vlad for example this game, even though he was healing himself 14:23 even with no prep if he's against a wall you can probably spell him quickly 14:23 i was on the stairs and he couldn't cast it as fast as i could hurt him 14:23 the nice thing with that is he can't steal your spellcast 14:23 the stairs are in a corridor i believe 14:24 magic missiled orcus from a fort and didn't get touched as well 14:24 i'm just so rusty i hadn't been playing for a while 14:25 been sick and my brain was all sorts of foggy. Couldn't even read a book, nvm play nh 14:25 so much fun playing now after a break though 14:25 we missed you! ugh, unable to read a book, i would expire 14:26 awww 14:26 i know i can be a dick on here. but you guys are awesome. this is my escape 14:26 (besides books) 14:27 finally finished winter of our discontent 14:27 reading station eleven now 14:29 EPI: can't read scroll of earth if there's a demon lord on current floor 14:29 settle down 14:30 make all demon lords and princes giants who can walk through and carry boulders 14:30 hehe 14:30 some variants do that I think krm26 but can't remember offhand which 14:30 or let them have a "smash boulder" attack 14:30 that would be nasty... giant demon lords and princes 14:30 dnh maybe? 14:30 they could hurl boulders at you! 14:31 it could be partial nerf -- if they can't path to you they pick a random adjacent boulder and smash it to pieces in anger 14:31 i've said before that when you play giant monk, master kaen should be a giant with a giant sized-robe you get as the booty 14:31 there was a bug at some point where the samurai quest nemesis was a giant who walked right into my fort 14:31 rebatela: that is actually a nice idea 14:31 dragonhide 14:31 the centaur ranger quest boss could have special boots that are horseshoes 14:31 haha 14:31 dream on :-) 14:32 since the ranger quest artifact is a piece of hot garbage 14:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:15228 14:32 aphrodite=graz't lite 14:33 those things can ruin your day just as quick 14:33 i don't like when she's on like lvl 5 or whatever 14:34 i love difficult early challenges like that 14:34 yeah it's fine, but i like being able to get to soko before 14:34 i usually dig past or try to get to the downstairs 14:35 yeah, so if you look at my game. I'm on the upstair 14:36 so there's walls on 2 sides 14:36 ideal 14:37 fill squares on other sides of walls with boulders too to guarantee perfect placement 14:38 what if i come up from below and read earth on those stairs? 14:38 he'll still teleport to upstairs to heal 14:38 true 14:39 you can power through that eventually but it can be really irritating 14:39 also, he'll spend time chilling in that lava 14:39 acid blast it is 14:39 yeah mm doesn't work. reflected from its "shield" 14:39 he cast reflection 14:39 yeah 14:40 use acid blast then 14:40 that's not nearly enough missile weapons 14:41 his reflection may drop at some point too 14:41 i know 14:41 but now i'm trained in shuriken 14:41 if i collect enough of them and enchant 14:41 i can probably kill him with them 14:41 problem with throwing boulders is he'll have nowhere to go 14:41 cancel him? 14:42 silver aklys is still useful for monk BTW, skill really doesn't matter much for throwing 14:42 and let reflection drop? 14:42 that's a good idea 14:42 i don't carry cancel around, but i have it 14:42 i need that matter staff and i'll learn the spell 14:42 i always have a cursed oilskin bag with a wand of cancellation and a blessed scroll of scare monster in it 14:43 i never noticed these named demons 14:45 yeah, graz'zt harem 14:45 bring a wand of probing too 14:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:47 i'm gonna poly for a billion shuriken now that i'm trained 14:47 multishot 14:47 shuriken are GREAT missile weapons, even at basic 14:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 841 points, T:1688, zombified by a gnome zombie 14:48 yeah. monks get some kind of bonus too i think 14:48 but they are hard to find. should i just poly arrows and shit? 14:48 what alignment are you? 14:48 neu 14:48 you should have the gjallar horn 14:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:48 yeah... only one wish left and i wished for eota 14:49 that's a cool artifact tho 14:49 weigh better as a tooled horn than orb of weight 14:49 i need to make sure ludios isn't in my game 14:49 i have never polyd weapons, ever, so no advice there 14:50 i assume you want to split other missile weapons of different materials into stacks of n and cross your fingers they dont end up all polearms 14:50 seems low-percentage to me 14:50 better off cursed genociding for ninja 14:51 (which i've never tried but if it works would give you tons) 14:51 hmmmmm 14:51 i wonder if canceling will help with that reflection spell... 14:52 can't hurt to try 14:52 i would think he won't be able to recast it after cancellation maybe 14:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 973 points, T:1989, zombified by a kobold zombie, while helpless 14:52 i don't like carrying these wands around 14:52 i swear 14:52 do you not have a cursed genocide to try for ninja shuriken? 14:53 because if you were gonna poly for shuriken, i think you'd be much happier polying for genocide 14:54 still reflectls from the spell after cancelling 14:54 i'll try the ninja thing 14:54 i just don't think you can rev geno a "ninja" . have you done this? 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:81040 14:54 why is it that player reflection is partial? 14:55 but these missiles just completely reflect off his "shield" (even after being canceled?) 14:55 i haven't ever tried. i guess ninja are probably ungenocidable :-P 14:55 although that shouldn't apply to REVERSE genocide 14:55 @e? ninja 14:55 ninja (@) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d8 weapon physical | Alignment: 3 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 14:56 that's how it works though... like you can't geno golems, so you can't rev geno paper golems 14:57 but how come "some" of the stuff reflects from the player, but monsters can just cast this ultimate pure reflection spell until the cows come home 14:57 mm. kas did not have the sword of kas 14:57 it's like 3.43 reflection that the mosnters get and they can cast it indefinitely 14:57 you can have mine 14:58 but he always has the sword of kas 14:58 cockatrice grenades? I think that's what I'm trying next 14:58 he can be petrified but i think he can also cast stone to flesh 14:59 yeah i'm sure 15:00 detect treasure says no sword of kas anywhere 15:00 DAMMIT 15:00 that's weird 15:00 damn, scammed :( 15:00 did it fall iin the lava? 15:00 did it disintegrate on your dsm? 15:01 goddamit i bet it did, i forgot i'm still squeezed into this black shit 15:01 argh 15:01 so many unforced errors this game 15:01 you might be able to see that in your ttyrec or something 15:01 to confirm it 15:02 an uncursed monk corpse named rebatela 15:02 whoops sorry for disturbing your grave 15:02 no worries 15:02 i dig them up all the time 15:03 tombs have saved my game before 15:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4645 15:08 i have a crystal two-handed sword named the sword of kas that i'm not using 15:08 i'm not even gonna bother seeing if the titans will use it. it's a chaotic artifact i imagine? 15:08 not sure i ever dug up a grave 15:08 yes chaotic 15:08 one of them is kicking ass with firebrand 15:09 oh man.. i dig up every grave. someitmes it's just a corpse, but in theory you can find a wand of wishing etc. 15:09 i've found crazy shit doing that 15:09 well in theory you can find a wand of wishing on any square but who has time 15:09 i know 15:09 but it's like not opening a chest 15:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3643 points, T:5267, killed by a magic missile 15:10 other than you have to fight a mummy, but once you are able to... 15:10 only problem is stuff is usually cursed 15:10 but i've found like gain level potions when i needed to level up to do quest, or wand of poly when i hadn't found it yet 15:12 i usually annottate when there's a grave early game so i remember to go back 15:12 although i think the game even notes it 15:12 yes, graves are logged in level descriptions 15:13 argh. i don't know what to do 15:13 i'm gonna have to stand there and fight him 15:13 should i just drop everything? 15:13 or carry a bunch of crap? 15:13 i can't believe i'm wishing i had demogorgon instead 15:15 heh 15:15 acid blast! 15:15 can't reflect the improved acid blast 15:15 i've never cast that spell 15:16 are you saying it gets by the shield? 15:16 i seem to have id'd every other fucking spell 15:17 i have markers i could write if i knew it 15:19 krm26 monk can't advanced attack so acid blast will reflect? 15:19 * can't cast 15:19 yeah that's it 15:19 only basic in attack 15:19 that may be true -- gotta unbeam it to avoid reflection 15:19 so of course that means it reflects 15:19 because monster reflection is absolute for some reason 15:21 so does reflection never time out when a monster casts it? 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:16774 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16776 15:33 it times out i imagine because they keep casting it 15:33 but it's not like they have PW 15:34 like the temple priests? they just cast it over and ove r 15:34 rebatela I don't know if K2 fixed that bug yet 15:35 VaderFLAG was complaining that the reflection didn't time out 15:35 temple priests cant cast reflection spell, its a wizard spell, not clerical 15:35 it definitely times out for the player... 15:35 it's also partial reflection for the player... 15:35 it magically works like vanilla reflection for monsters though 15:36 there's no "some" of it reflects from your shield 15:36 it's he's completely immune because he cast a spell he can cast indefinitely 15:36 monster acid blast spell is area of effect only, its not a beam like it can be for player spell at lower skill level 15:36 i mean, if it times out, can't you cancel him so he can't recast? 15:37 sure 15:37 tried that. didn't work 15:37 but you really should be able to reverse genocide ninja for shuriken 15:37 I don't think it times out 15:37 monster spell casting ability isnt a valid cancel target 15:37 it is unfair that you can't reverse genocide ungenocidable monsters 15:38 that's vanilla shit 15:40 all i know is that i'm bringing the titans with me to the level when i do fight him so someone can have fun with my bones... plus one is wielding fire brand, and the other will be carrying vorpal blade and sword of kas (they won't use them but they'll carry them) 15:40 cant believe i disintegrated sword of kas, wtf man 15:40 hah 15:41 no way i can kill vecna now 15:41 i'll throw mine in the swap chest. gimme a second 15:41 oh maybe i should go kill vecna 15:41 krm26 you dont need the sword of ks to kill vecna 15:41 unless vecna against all odds is a vorpal blade target 15:41 *kas 15:41 you don't need the sword of kas, but it helps if your normal damage output is like 20/round 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:17064 15:42 why wouldnt vecna be a valid vorpal target? 15:43 because he's used to losing different parts of his body and moving on 15:43 the lore with vecna is that when he was destroyed, all that was left was his hand and eye 15:43 K2: so this run, I've found Dragonbane, Demonbane, Vorpal Blade, and a wand of wishing (1:1) on the FLOOR 15:44 wow 15:44 yet i've managed to screw up so many things that i'm still not doing great :-) 15:44 oh noooo lol 15:44 sounds like me 15:44 i knew it would happen when my cat stole Dragonbane for me from a DL2 shop 15:44 that is the kiss of death right there 15:45 marry poppins don't make mistakes 15:45 that's sick though. dragonbane in a shop 15:45 i got it from altar for the first time 15:45 i should have sold it and restole it for infinite starting gold but i was lazy 15:46 (YANI: trying to sell an item to a shop that was generated in that shop and not properly paid for just gets it confiscated) 15:47 Or, after 5 pet item thefts the shop changes its policy to "no pets" :-) 15:47 This incentivises boring and optimal behaviour where you shuffle items between shops. 15:48 it isn't boring suboptimal but i'll take it! 15:52 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:3738 16:02 oh damn i DO have reflective barding. that's how old this game is 16:02 i'm going back for a woolly! 16:02 I can't remember which variants other than slex remove pet stealing entirely 16:03 some variants mark items as 'stolen' so you can never sell them again 16:03 oh maybe it's gnollhack that removes it entirely 16:04 oh i have frost brand too for the other titan sweet 16:05 so now one has fire brand and one has frost brand, amulets of reflection, -25/-31 ac 16:05 but they won't help me fight graz't... pussies 16:05 that would actually be perfect if he messed with them because they carry around bags of holding and fill it and their inventory with every random thing imagineable 16:06 i think one is carrying a safe around 16:14 is it possible to feed them enough potions of gain level for them to fight? probably not 16:14 hmmm i wonder 16:14 i think graz'zt is like level 100 16:14 doesn't help me much i just found my FIRST gain level potion at like 65k turns 16:14 or something gross 16:15 i'm riding a wooly mammoth with reflective barding for the first time tho! 16:16 perfect mount 16:16 rebatela: have you got a polykit? 16:16 maybe better unmounted 16:18 yeah i don't usually ride them 16:18 but i also don't usually have the barding 16:18 need to train the skill so i can pick up stuff 16:18 iirc reverse genocided things don't spawn with inventory 16:18 it still doesn't help me with graz't.. i have the best pets every right now... absolutely kitted out titans, 2 woollys and the pegasus 16:19 no, they just take up space against him. he might steal from one 16:19 instead of from you 16:19 well that's what i'm hoping 16:19 because they carry all sorts of crap 16:19 use conflict :P 16:19 can you poly into a dragon and engulf him? 16:20 ask mobileuser what he did to defeat graz'zt 16:20 IT'S A TRICK 16:20 don't tell him mobileuser!!! 16:21 lol i know 16:22 i'm just thinking. maybe i should leave some of the artifacts behind 16:22 so if i escape, i'll still have MR 16:23 like, leave the one of the eyes behind so if he steals i can retreat 16:23 i ALMOST killed him last time and was absolutely shitfaced and didn't know what i was doing 16:25 like, should i leave my bag of holding behind? 16:32