00:22 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71422 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71425 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:71613 01:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:72025 02:02 go go go bouquet! 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:72045 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1981 points, T:4311, killed by a crocodile 02:29 I'm think I should wait to do my run until there's some irc support. 02:29 rah rah rah 02:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:29 I meant more like, "don't do that bouquet, you smeghead!" 02:29 because I get so overwhelmed 02:29 you on eu? 02:31 you look like you're doing fine 02:33 are you headed for a stash for final gearing, or just running for it? 02:33 ya, but when rodney shows up I can't one-shot him with a wand and he doubletroubles me and I can't seem to kill him 02:34 tsurugi/excal is great for rodney if you can't death him 02:35 i'd be mainhanding tsurugi i guess 02:35 maximize its bisection 02:36 why not carry some boulders? 02:36 You don't have to unequip your items to do that 02:36 I have boulers 02:36 and boulder 02:36 the identified scroll lets you pick what to enchant 02:37 I know, but I'm still cautious 02:37 wasn't sure if it would while I was confused 02:37 if you were cautious you wouldn't take off your reflection :-) 02:37 it does, i tested it first thing 02:39 my usual planes plan is lots of death and tele wands. 02:39 you need to update your regex to show uncursed identified items properly 02:39 Yes, death/tele is invaluable for sure 02:39 I have some charging scrolls 02:40 a couple geno scrolls for eels and kraken 02:40 i prefer saving them for cursed woolly mammoths 02:40 10 full healing 02:40 oh right. I better use these markers up 02:41 yeah, now is the time for most marking 02:41 2 cursed genocide & 2/3 taming is probably more than sufficient for a huge mammoth storm 02:41 plus a confusion of course 02:41 I always forget confusion. See! THis is why I need reminding 02:42 i normally do 5 gold detection, 5 confusion, cursed gen/taming, like 4 fully charged tp/death if i can 02:42 and as many full healing as possible 02:42 Do you have any potion alchemy you can squeeze out right now? 02:43 no. Finished that up before going down 02:43 cool 02:43 8 blessed taming 02:43 that is too many :-) 02:44 i guess you can use one when confused on air/fire to get a few buddies for free when doing cursed gold 02:44 I have this plan to load up scroll of confuse monster so everything I hit gets confused (hopefully). Is that a worthy plan? 02:44 or is it resisted too much in the end game? 02:44 i mean, it isn't crappy, but i don't normally bother with it. no, it will effect some stuff 02:45 but you'll be 1-3 shotting everything but the really awful stuff 02:45 ya, I was hoping some of the angels might get confused and wander off 02:45 or summon acid blobs instead of baddies. 02:45 your mammoths will hug them to death 02:46 all you have to worry about is figuring what angle to death the riders at so you don't kill too many mammoths :-) 02:46 ugh, I just gotta get through the planes first. Rodney had me over a barrel on air last time. 02:46 and of course rodney spiralling out of control on the planes 02:46 yeah 02:46 I just couldn't damage him fast enough. 02:46 you'll carve him up with a giant sammy doing tsurugi/otherartifcat 02:47 i still recommend MH tsurgui 02:47 how many cursed gain level do you have? 02:48 none 02:48 ah 02:48 found maybe 2 the whole game 02:48 I've been bisecting with it in my offhand 02:48 is there a difference in probability? 02:48 if you have more potentially useful anything i'd ditch that tinning kit for it 02:48 yeah, but it will hit a bit more in MH 02:49 lower to hit penalty for MH weapon 02:50 don't forget to eat 02:51 23 charges left on the marker. Maybe I can squeak out another geno scroll 02:51 3 cursed is plenty 02:51 take your earth with you 02:52 for boulder forts? 02:52 for "close encounters" :-) 02:52 unfortunately they won't work on air or water where I often need them most 02:53 spare free action & lev is smart 02:53 ya, I always keep extras for those 02:53 i'd immediately ditch slow digestion for increase damage 02:54 I should use that +4 dmg ring instead of SD for the planes. Just gotta watch my hunger 02:54 satiate yourself before entering the planes 02:54 lembas is nice because it will never screw you like rations 02:54 plenty of food in the pack 02:55 some k rations and 7 lembas will mean you won't need anything else ever 02:55 well, lizards 02:55 i'd bless your whistle, your stethoscope 02:55 ok, how we doing? Almost ready to go? ANything else to check off the list? 02:56 maybe a horn to scare stuff? 02:56 you know, i used to always do that, but i find nothing really gets scared anymore (for me) in the ascension 02:57 I need a spare unihorn 02:57 id your greases and take the bone if it has enough charges 02:57 got it 02:57 always know the exact charges in the ascension 02:57 grease the Hesperides too 02:57 bone? 02:57 lighter 02:58 heh 02:58 mever mind, take the 19 02:58 towel instead of blindfold for wiping (but it won't matter) 02:58 grease the weapons so bullwhips don't yank them? 02:59 no 02:59 it wears off immediately 02:59 i mean, it wears off through normal use, so it is unlikely to help you 02:59 ah 02:59 any balrogs will rue the day when you are demonbane/sunswording them 02:59 I've been offhanding demonbane when adjacent to demons to keep them from gating in more. 03:00 yes indeedy, that is the wya 03:00 way 03:00 bless the increase damage ring, you'll be swapping it for lev 03:01 looking pretty sharp, can i peek in your bag? 03:01 was your luckstone uncursed? 03:01 thanks, just blessed it and I have 2 spares 03:02 unfortunately I'm invisible so conflict won't work I think 03:02 you are super-prepared, i'd ditch a lot of that stuff because i am weight cautious, but it is no big deal 03:02 i never take conflict 03:02 I'm already unencumbered 03:02 i would take +damage, 2 freedom, 2 lev, no other rings, if it were me 03:03 too paranoid 03:03 but i like to pack my bag with gems (which is kinda pointless, just another minigame for me) 03:03 I usually do. 03:04 there, a few more points 03:04 loaded for bear -- crush it 03:04 unfortunately some of the arti weapons are too heavy and will put me over so they're staying. 03:04 ok, no time like the present! 03:04 yeah, most artifacts have poor weight/point performance anyway 03:04 watch the vorpal 03:04 i'd have a wand of teleport out even now i think 03:05 scaring here can be useful 03:05 whew, had to dodge that vorpal J 03:05 i always carve out straight runs before getting the amulet because i'm a coward 03:06 i usually don't fight anything on the way up if i don't have to, just keep moving 03:06 back in 2m 03:06 brb 03:08 heh 03:08 FYI, Dramborleg will one shot kill balrogs 03:08 backlog 03:08 back 03:08 noticed discussion about demonbane/sunsword balrogs 03:09 yeah, alas he doesn't have the axe (i've still never seen it) 03:09 must be in the ludios level i never get :-) 03:09 I noticed someone got it via sacrifice the other day 03:09 and I've wished for it 03:09 so in my game, the one artifact weapon my god gave me? angelslayer? poofed on a baby black dragon 03:10 I've found it on the ground twice 03:10 is there any way to id the high altars any more? 03:10 stand on em 03:10 blessed crystal ball? 03:10 damn krm26__ 03:10 you bring a hooa? 03:10 thought you knew better 03:12 another stash! 03:12 lost your helm grease 03:13 grease your hat up 03:14 good luck! 03:14 omigod dude, take off the free action to dip it, not the reflection gloves :-) 03:15 see, I'm a total amature! 03:15 go go go 03:15 pray for earth 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:73824 03:15 noice 03:15 crap 03:15 zaaap 03:15 I hate air 03:15 slice and dice it is 03:15 he's got MR 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:73831 03:16 BISECT 03:16 way to go 03:16 now it is easy street for you 03:17 awesome 03:17 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 03:17 can eels drown you if you're not adjacent to a water tile? 03:17 might as well use the genocide you brough, you have time 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided krakens, on T:73896 03:18 they will always be in water they can drown you in 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided giant eels, on T:73896 03:18 electric eels/krakens are the bad boys 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided electric eels, on T:73897 03:18 but you'll 2-shot anything but krakens 03:18 did you cursed gold and i missed it? 03:20 i generally always move into the rightmost bubble 03:22 yay 03:23 will have a relaxing time on earth to prepare for the final run 03:23 still confused 03:24 perfect last level 03:25 ok, prep for astral 03:25 get out my taming and cursed genocide 03:25 yup 03:25 you are in great shape, you've got this! 03:26 do you usually move to a more open area to do your woolly summoning? 03:26 or just do it right inthe bottleneck where you enter astral? 03:26 let's look at the lay of the land first 03:26 remembered my confuse monster 03:27 i'd probbaly move right and then do it if it were me 03:27 don't be burdened! 03:27 just do it now 03:28 spelling check 03:28 i'd try 2 cursed woolly mammoth and a confused taming if it were me 03:29 woolly mammoth? 03:29 yup 03:29 and confuse myself before reading taming, right? 03:29 i like potions of confusion, more certain than forgotten spells 03:29 yes 03:29 first cursed genocide, then confuse, then taming 03:30 2 ls 03:30 awesome 03:30 now use the whistle to bring em with you wherever you go 03:30 woolly rain hahah 03:31 * K2 gets out the woolly mammoth nerf bat 03:31 :P 03:31 so, for fighting the riders should I stick to zapping death at them? 03:31 i think that mammoths/woolly mammoths/etc probably take environmental damage from the heat on astral every turn :-) 03:31 melee death, zap the others 03:32 yeah never zap wand of death at Death 03:32 makes him stronger 03:32 a lot stronger 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:74200 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:74200 03:32 good move retreating to do that 03:33 let the pets do all the heavy lifting 03:33 jackpot! 03:33 way to go! 03:33 grats 03:34 \o/ 03:34 first altar weeee 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 6449160 points, T:74224, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1640384110.evil.html 03:34 praise crom 03:34 awesome 03:34 5th ascension of the year in 5 days 03:34 thanks, krm26__ I'll send you a gift basket 03:35 K2 is definitely gonna turn the screws on us 03:35 I wish the scoreboard would stay up until I hit a key instead of flashing and disappearing 03:35 ya, but I sstarted this game about a month ago 03:35 how do I know where I rank? 03:35 nethackscoreboard.org 03:36 ya, but I like to see it right when I finish. 03:36 the tombstone doesn't show either 03:36 it does take a while to update 03:36 and the ascended games display is not column-sortable like it should be 03:36 prob a curses mode quirk 03:36 is there a way to sort the scoreboard by score? 03:36 i never have that problem in regular tty mode 03:36 ya, it's a curses thing 03:36 there is no sorting on the NHS 03:37 now i can go back to trying to get another damn weapon 03:37 its been asked for, but aoei hasn't done anything about it 03:37 really, krm26__, you saved my sanity. My BP didn't go off the charts like usual. 03:38 you were a total professional, made it look ez 03:38 well, it was my second giant samurai ascension. 03:38 * bouquet huffs on knuckles, rubs on shirt 03:39 !lastgame bouquet 03:39 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1640384110.evil.html 03:40 6.5m, needed more gems :-) 03:40 wonder why my score was so high? I only killed rodney 5 times and 1 rider once. 03:40 I usually score around 3.5M 03:40 3.5m is close to speedrun scoring 03:40 this is usually the time I go look at my extinctionist scores to feel better 03:41 just 9m will give you the evilhack crown! 03:41 I play the opposite of speed run. 03:41 please, i'm at 58k in my current game and don't even have a weapon to use at the castle yet 03:42 BECAUSE THE LADY HATES ME 03:42 The Lady wants to see your manager 03:42 so what didn't you like about my regex for highlighting inventory? 03:43 gg 03:43 it shows the "uncursed woof" as bold white and the "+1 woof" as normal white 03:43 when they are both known uncursed 03:43 oh right. I have explicit uncursed disabled probably 03:44 i'm always jiggering with my color strategy 03:45 mine looks similar to yours. I inverse if worn or wielded so I can quickly see if I got disarmed or stripped 03:45 i use inverse for stuff that blows up mostly :-) 03:45 underlines for in-use 03:46 K2: now that I've been entirely through the game a few times I think it's a keeper. 03:46 I take back all the horrible things I said about you in frustration 03:47 postprandial dip incoming! 03:47 For all the shit I've seen and heard from evil the only time I've been like, legit frustrated was that fucking P'hul dusting 03:47 And even then that wasn't remotely his fault, it's just "of COURSE on the first fucking swing I take" 03:47 yup, i dusted my only artifact weapon on the first swing against a baby black dragon this run 03:48 lol bouquet thanks 03:48 it is a joy 03:48 I mean that makes ostensibly more sense 03:48 I just punched the black dragons to death. Would have genocided them if I had enough scrolls 03:48 Iunno if artifacts resist that normally, feel like they "should" 03:49 they do, i had a super bad roll 03:49 Yeah, that'd do it 03:49 super bad roll is my middle name 03:49 P'hul didn't even have the required protection when I swung that shock axe at Thoth 03:49 (yet) 03:49 krm26__: go feed a unicorn a ton of gems and maybe you'll have better luck 03:50 There's a universe where I never noticed that problem because the ring destruction never proc'd and I eventually throw that giant Barb run to something more mundane 03:50 Like a giant anaconda or something 03:51 Umbire: you were wielding the axe and wearing P'hul and it blew up? 03:51 I didn't think p'hul could explode. 03:51 <Umbire> P'hul didn't even have the required protection when I swung that shock axe at Thoth 03:52 was the axe cursed? 03:52 how did a shock axe you're wielding blast you? 03:52 No, bouquet, the nemesis 03:52 had the ring. 03:52 oh, got it. 03:52 That's turbo weak sauce 03:53 i still remember that run! 03:53 Probably the most rage in a quit I've ever had. 03:53 Just say some mean things about K2 and then you can apologize later after you ascend. 03:53 Pf. 03:58 But yeah. Gonna run that back someday. 04:17 krm26__: why not keep a boulder on your chest in case a gelatinous cube comes by? 04:17 or a monster with a key 04:18 im camping it right now, trying to wring another weapon out of my stupid god 04:18 fair 04:18 i've got the bell under one of those boulders, and another free for putting on the chest 04:19 I need to play more tourists 04:20 have you got a deeper altar to sac at? 04:20 I think you'll get better sac-fodder lower down 04:21 Yeah, alas 04:21 only option 04:21 very frustrating 04:21 if you can get rid of the priest in Kathryn's lair you can use that 04:22 my damage output is abysmal, can't kill a snow golem 04:22 fair 04:22 i would have done that except for my disintegrated angelslayer, was all set to tackle the cold levels 04:22 it takes me two rounds to kill a soldier ant now 04:23 I've tried reading the functions for sacrificing to see how to get the optimal conditions and I'm still unclear. I think the higher hit-dice a monster + high luck is the best path to a good gift. 04:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:60173 04:37 give me a wand of lightning big enough and i will move the earth 04:37 a really long wand could act as a lever I guess 04:38 I had a bad experience on that level. A lich or fire orb cause the ice around me to spontaneously melt and I drowned. 04:38 I always use levitation there now 04:46 well, one unlucky demon gate will totally finish me, but i guess i gotta chance it 04:51 can you charm a woolly and kill the priest? 04:51 me? I can't charm crap 04:51 with a chr of 16?! I'm sure your mom thinks you're charming. 04:54 with pyec and a magic harp you would be the most charming ever 04:55 alas no harp 04:55 i might have to scrounge up a confused taming tho 04:56 Demonbane on the ground 04:56 omigod 04:56 omigod omigod omigod 04:56 A WEAPON 04:57 hold it, love it 04:57 of course i still have no good offhand because of the weight limit, but better than it was 04:57 how's your mace skill? 04:58 lol ain't it lawful 05:00 why do you hold onto the worthless glass? 05:00 it is basic now, like everything else 05:01 i'm going to do a poly minigame with it eventually 05:02 I gotta hit the hay. Don't die! Thanks for your support! 05:02 gnight, and grats again! 05:06 -!- krm26__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 06:19 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest634 06:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:20 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8577 06:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:22 -!- Guest634 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23 -!- carlarc has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:23 -!- Guest8577 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:26 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 09:03 !tell bouquet congratulations!! 09:03 I'm on it, mobileuser. 09:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:45 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56 !tell bouquet congrats! 11:56 Will do, Graznop! 12:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2401 points, T:3155, quit 13:00 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 13:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 6666 points, T:6898, withered away 13:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1686 points, T:3302, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 13:37 -!- statik_ has joined #evilhack 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:10680 13:50 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10882 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:61986 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:62458 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2628 points, T:3798, killed by a piranha 14:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Val Cen Fem Neu), 23354 points, T:11549, killed by a cauchemar, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:29 doh. Hit an e by misteak 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1707 points, T:3054, killed by a hill orc 14:51 -!- statik_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2530 15:08 -!- statik_ has joined #evilhack 15:10 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 15:14 heya qt 15:14 good morning 15:17 ugh, i pushed my dagger skill to expert as a hobbit tourist hoping the hobbit proficiency would make it worth while. nope 15:18 shoulda stuck with dart 15:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a small shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4232 15:24 Is the tourist special spell no longer charm monster in evilhack? 15:26 surprised that a L17 tourist with 15 int wearing a robe and no metal crap has a 100% failure rate at charm monster 15:27 seems to still be listed in role.c 15:30 Guess I'll go look at the code, according to the vanilla wiki I should have a 15% chance of casting the level 5 spell 15:32 hmm 15:32 it's a level 5 spell now 15:32 krm26: i just started a hobbit tourist in wizmode, got 15 int and put on a robe, no other armor. at level 1 I already have only a 91% failure rate 15:33 you're definitely not wearing anything metal? 15:33 hmm. is DSM a penalty for casting now? 15:33 -!- statik_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33 got a shield? I think even if nonmetal it does something, could be wrong 15:33 krm26: i think it is 15:33 Yup, that is it, the DSM makes it impossible 15:34 71% success with DSM off and robe on. Bleagh 15:34 i think maybe the only armor that doesn't have some penalty is crystal plate mail 15:34 iirc 15:34 i vaguely remember reading that version note sometime, thx 15:34 yeah same, that's just my memory from a changelog or the wiki or something so I might be wrong 15:35 So the level change to charm monster mostly invalidates its use as a tourist spell despite its special status 15:35 oh well 15:36 K2, another idea for the slight enhancements to some DSMs you were chatting about the other month -- give shimmering a reduced or nonexistant spellcasting penalty 15:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a small shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5959 15:37 i dont think i want to tack on anymore extra abilities for dsm 15:38 they already have primary/secondary 15:39 hmm, was i that badly zonnked? or maybe you were talking about synergies with something else. i forget 15:41 the only other change I was contemplating was gray dragan scales/scale mail having cancellation resistance 15:41 see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Other_Changes for the bit about body armor affecting spell casting success rates 15:42 damn, but they are already one of the best dsms 15:42 and dragonbane..? 15:42 * amateurhour flutters eyelashes 15:42 what about dragonbane 15:42 * amateurhour slides over zorkmid 15:43 what about dragonbane 15:43 ? 15:45 should be able to punch gray dragons with it without getting cancelled 15:45 ah that. no 15:45 dragonbane is OP enough as it is 15:45 yeah overpowered... against dragons 15:45 * K2 keeps the zorkmid 15:45