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00:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26110
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02:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:50470
04:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:51610
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05:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:10006
06:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:10628
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08:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:53363
08:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:53383
08:05 <mobileuser> are you doing any conducts tinklebear?
08:06 <tinklebear> hi, mobileuser!
08:07 <mobileuser> Hi! I had a quick peek
08:07 <tinklebear> not really. I'm doing atheist, but that's always
08:07 <amateurhour> you both are green in my irc chat, with names the same length as eachother, all lowercase and ending in r
08:07 <amateurhour> so I thought mobileuser just greeted themself
08:07 <mobileuser> lol
08:07 <amateurhour> hi, amateurhour!
08:08 <tinklebear> good morning, amateurhour
08:09 <mobileuser> tinklebear = brown, amateurhour = red, mobileuser = green (to me)
08:09 <mobileuser> of course I have no effing clue what determines that :-)
08:10 <amateurhour> probably some function of the username
08:10 <amateurhour> or maybe it's a measure of how dangerous we are
08:11 <mobileuser> haha!
08:11 <nabru> tinklebear = white, amateurhour = green, mobileuser = brown to me
08:11 <mobileuser> you are purple nabru
08:11 * nabru turns into a purple h
08:12 <amateurhour> damn purple is a great one, let's swap
08:12 <amateurhour> you're cyan for me nabru
08:12 <mobileuser> watch out for the ones with an alhoon colour
08:13 <mobileuser> right, time to look up sokoban spoilers...
08:13 <amateurhour> c h e a t i n g
08:14 <tinklebear> mobileuser, you're only cheating yourself!
08:15 <amateurhour> YANI: those soko floors with no spare boulders could have a little room of spare boulders added, luck penalty for opening the door for the first time
08:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:30230
08:19 <mobileuser> cheating myself out of a wonderful soko solving experience...
08:20 <mobileuser> yeah, sounds good to me :-)
08:38 <tinklebear> but but but... *splutters*
08:38 <amateurhour> save time reading the wiki spoilers by storing the spoilers in ur mind
08:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:31557
08:44 <mobileuser> oh I can do all the classic vanilla ones by heart
08:44 <mobileuser> by muscle memory
08:45 <amateurhour> except when flipped apparently and then you don't recognise them at all :^)
08:45 <mobileuser> there are too many new ones to acquire muscle memory
08:45 <mobileuser> agreed about the freaking flipped ones
08:46 <mobileuser> fortunately evilhack is flip free
08:46 <amateurhour> \o/
08:46 <amateurhour> ...for now
08:46 <mobileuser> heh
08:56 <tinklebear> easybabyhack
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08:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1840 points, T:2504, killed by a piranha, while praying
08:57 <tinklebear> no, sokoban is weird. like a lockpicking challenge stuck in the middle of a language exam or something
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09:28 <K2> evilhack soko will always be flip free
09:28 <K2> ALWAYS
09:38 <tinklebear> seems a bit arbitrary!
09:39 * tinklebear is trying out new important-sounding words
09:41 <tinklebear> good morning, K2
09:41 <K2> o/
09:41 <mobileuser> PERPETUALLY
09:41 <K2> MOIST
09:41 <mobileuser> hi K2!
09:42 <K2> HI
09:42 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
09:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 180 points, T:1174, killed by a dart
09:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 813 points, T:3157, killed by a wand
10:02 <mobileuser> heh I just confused myself by throwing Magicbane upward
10:02 <mobileuser> I was desperate to repair my power gloves
10:03 <mobileuser> unfortunately eating tripe doesn't confuse giants
10:06 <K2> hax
10:09 <tinklebear> never an umber hulk around when you need one
10:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 857 points, T:1984, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze
10:17 <tinklebear> @e?alhoon
10:17 <Hecubus> alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravisible
10:18 <tinklebear> Spd: 9 :D
10:19 <tinklebear> even the dark arts don't solve arthritis
10:27 <tinklebear> "The Fonz gazes at the fog cloud... The fog cloud looks confused."
10:27 <tinklebear> (The Fonz is a tame umber hulk)
10:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1850
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10:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2047 points, T:2693, killed by a giant mosquito
10:38 <Graznop> should I be able to bash a ghost to its final death with a bone skull cap?
10:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:32746
10:49 <K2> yes
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10:52 <Graznop> ok thanks. Will try harder
10:52 <carlarc> oof, same-race sacrificed and a hostile devil was summoned?
10:52 <carlarc> how does that work
10:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a knife entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:33148
11:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:14782
11:02 <mobileuser> FOOP
11:02 <mobileuser> carlarc, that's an evilhack special
11:03 <mobileuser> K2 didn't like people intentionally same race saccing for moar gud
11:03 <K2> and demons are bastards
11:03 <K2> they wont even wash your dishes
11:04 <K2> fuckers
11:04 <mobileuser> even lawful ones?
11:05 <K2> even lawful ones
11:06 <mobileuser> bastards!
11:06 <K2> lol
11:06 <amateurhour> HEY that is not true
11:07 <amateurhour> don't be spitting your lore-breaking LIES
11:07 <amateurhour> 'the dishwasher returns!' summons a foocubi
11:07 <amateurhour> checkmate atheists
11:07 <K2> lies
11:07 <K2> they dont really wash dishes
11:07 <K2> go play some more slex, heathen
11:08 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2555/source
11:09 <mobileuser> "As the door gives way, you hear the other doors sealing"
11:09 <mobileuser> another LIE
11:09 <mobileuser> all the doors are kaput
11:09 <mobileuser> :b
11:09 <K2> you broke them all down?
11:09 <mobileuser> monsters did
11:10 <mobileuser> they left one for me
11:10 <K2> ah
11:15 <qt> k2 add a loop that iterates through all the spots on the level and counts all the doors so that it can say "you hear the other door(s) sealing" or nothing depending on how many doors there are
11:15 <qt> it would be a great enhancement
11:17 <K2> would have to make sure it were the 'trapped' doors
11:18 <amateurhour> doesn't it already loop through to lock them? just count them there
11:22 <carlarc> sooo
11:22 <carlarc> same-race sacrifice can summon angery devils, got it
11:22 <carlarc> can it summon angery demon lords?
11:22 <qt> good point amateurhour 
11:31 <qt> K2: https://termbin.com/2nesv this should do it
11:32 <amateurhour> good work team
11:32 <amateurhour> high fives all around
11:36 <qt> the line that starts with Deaf in that diff should be indented a couple more spaces too
11:37 <tinklebear> pretty sure if you aren't chaotic, you can expect summoned Yeenoghu to be a little testy
11:38 <tinklebear> (but I don't remember witnessing this myself)
11:43 <carlarc> so it can summon demon lords
11:43 <carlarc> damn, i am very happy that did not happen
11:43 <tinklebear> :D
11:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Graznop's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2516
11:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:2951
11:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof bone stethoscope", on T:54886
12:11 <K2> qt thanks
12:13 <carlarc> wishing for a stethoscope? huh
12:13 <tinklebear> lookout, ghosts. got my bone stethoscope!
12:13 <carlarc> if i dont find one i usually polypile em
12:16 <tinklebear> it's a critical resource for me. not going to mess about.
12:17 <tinklebear> also, it feels good to spend wishes on a thing you genuinely want. and, after 50k turns of lacking one, I genuinely wanted one.
12:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:55287
12:28 <tinklebear> tame flind seems to prefer long swords over a mattock, which confuses me
12:28 <tinklebear> they aren't wearing a shield
12:29 <tinklebear> seems like every time they find a long sword, they put away the mattock and wield the sword
12:31 <K2> I altered the weapon preference table for what monsters will want to use
12:31 <K2> long sword may be > than mattock
12:32 <K2> brb
12:32 <tinklebear> interesting!
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13:08 <tinklebear> okay, I see the table now. long sword is prefered over not just mattock, but over two-handed sword, over katana, and over elven long sword
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13:15 <tinklebear> monsters being all polite "no no, you take the two-hander. I just wouldn't feel comfortable, you being a guest and all."
13:20 <tinklebear> unless they're all trying to dip for excalibur, this seems weird to me
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13:27 <carlarc> uh
13:27 <carlarc> k2?
13:27 <carlarc> didn't you say evilhack had warning before walking into water?
13:27 <mobileuser> only if you activate that option
13:28 <carlarc> it's deactivated by default??
13:28 <mobileuser> fortunately yes
13:28 <carlarc> fortunately??
13:28 <mobileuser> means I don't have to figure out how to deactivate it
13:30 <amateurhour> lol
13:30 <amateurhour> I don't think you'd even notice if you had it enabled mobi
13:30 <mobileuser> I'm gonna see if I can find the answer to your question about same race sac...
13:31 <amateurhour> so much muscle memory already near water
13:31 <mobileuser> amateurhour I have walked into water in the game I stupidly splatted in gehennom, it was a sign... ;-)
13:31 <amateurhour> if only you had turned on the easybabyhack option, rip
13:32 <mobileuser> heh
13:33 <mobileuser> carlarc https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e8f34a4a037161aacadd85ac00a70d7ce3cc50ac
13:34 <carlarc> i cant find the option to enable water warning
13:34 <mobileuser> carlarc no demon lords will be summoned by same race sac (see commit)
13:34 <carlarc> yeah saw it
13:34 <carlarc> ty
13:35 <mobileuser> anyone here know what the ascend-me-easybabyhack option is?
13:36 <carlarc> yes i am a baby :)
13:40 <amateurhour> it's a paranoid confirmation option
13:40 <amateurhour> so find where you've got those already then add 'swim' to it
13:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:72026
13:50 <qt> i've seen quite a few paranoid swim users posting about drugs online
13:52 <qt> SWIM ordered a pound of heroin on the darknet and just got a call from the postal inspector, should SWIM call them back?
14:00 <mobileuser> qt I just noticed a dwarf shopkeeper and an elf zombie not attacking each other
14:00 <mobileuser> bug or intended?
14:00 <qt> idk i don't think that the races should affect anything like that
14:00 <qt> they should only make monsters more willing to attack each other, not less, iirc
14:03 <qt> dwarf shopkeeper is attacking an elf zombie in wizmode for me
14:03 <qt> is it possible the level discrepancy is high enough that they are ignoring each other? can't remember if that's a factor like it is for pets
14:04 <mobileuser> I led the zombie past the shk, but they just ignored each other...
14:05 <mobileuser> the living and zombies should always attack
14:06 <mobileuser> maybe a weird RNG thing, thx for checking
14:06 <qt> in wizmode it sort of seems like the elf zombie only attacks if the shopkeeper is directly in its way
14:06 <mobileuser> ah ok...
14:07 <qt> it also seems like the shopkeeper won't fight if he's currently guarding the door (e.g. you're standing in the hallway with a mattock)
14:07 <qt> i'm not sure of the actual logic but those two things seem to happen in wizmode
14:07 <mobileuser> maybe the shk is hoping the zombie will be a returning customer ;-)
14:07 <cbus> maybe he just wants to give mercy ;P
14:08 <cbus> FR: spiked baseball bat that one shots zombies named mercy
14:08 <mobileuser> sunsword can do that already :-)
14:09 <cbus> hehe true
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14:10 <qt> What do you want to name this Sunsword? Mercy
14:10 <qt> The artifact seems to resist the attempt.
14:10 <cbus> no mercy for you
14:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Orc Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24533
14:21 <carlarc> @e? air elemental
14:21 <Hecubus> air elemental (E) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 36 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d10 engulf physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan
14:21 <carlarc> these elementals are insane
14:21 <carlarc> 80 hp? my main weapon is a dwarven short sword!
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14:58 <Graznop> Statues of dust vortices and fog clouds weigh 0 aum - any divide by zero errors to find? I've tried throwing...
15:01 <K2> tinklebear I made those weapon preference adjustments because of artifacts
15:01 <K2> and there really should be a better way to handle that
15:02 <tinklebear> let them dip for special monster-artifact long swords!
15:02 <tinklebear> *kidding
15:06 <K2> heh
15:08 <qt> K2: aren't artifacts considered separately from normal weapons?
15:09 <K2> dont believe so
15:09 <K2> I've seen monsters prefer a rusty sword over an artifact
15:09 <qt> "They prefer (in this order): any usable artifact weapon, cockatrice or chickatrice corpse, tsurugi, runesword, dwarvish mattock, two-handed sword, battle-axe, katana, unicorn horn, crysknife, trident, long sword, elven broadsword, broadsword, scimitar, silver saber,..."
15:10 <qt> artifact weapons should be preferable to any normal weapon
15:10 <qt> apparently that's how it works in vanilla, at least
15:10 <K2> hmm
15:10 <qt> surprised they prefer Sting to a cockatrice corpse
15:10 <qt> that seems kind of silly
15:11 <K2> you see how tsurugi and runesword are before mattack? those never spawn randomly in the game, they only appear as the samurai quest artifact and stormbringer
15:11 <qt> well, you could wish for them
15:12 <K2> *mattock
15:12 <Not-5c6a> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JyDWj
15:12 <Not-5c6a> [EvilHack] k21971 367aac1 - Accurate tracking of how many doors seal after touching sokoban prize.
15:14 <qt> looking at would_prefer_hwep they should never give up an artifact for another non-artifact weapon
15:14 <qt> it's in weapon.c
15:15 <K2> hmm
15:15 * tinklebear coincidentally returns from looking at weapon.c
15:15 <K2> i coulda sworn before the changes I made, I'd see monsters prefer lesser weapons over artifact
15:15 <qt> select_hwep(weapon.c) also prefers artifacts to non-artifacts
15:16 <qt> k2 is it possible the artifact weapon was cross-aligned or something?
15:16 <Umbire> Oh yeah that's a factor
15:16 <Umbire> could also be something that hurts the wielder
15:16 <qt> it doesn't seem like there's a scenario where they are wielding an artifact, then drop it to wield another weapon
15:16 <K2> brb
15:16 <qt> but they could have access to an artifact and choose to wield another item instead, because it's cross aligned or similar
15:17 <qt> maybe there are other cases like that too, idk
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15:33 <K2> maybe
15:33 <K2> worth another look at some point
15:33 <carlarc> i like sokoban personally
15:33 <carlarc> but its wack
15:34 <carlarc> god am i glad i dont play variants with flipped sokoban though
15:34 <carlarc> its the equivalent of artificial difficulty
15:36 <Umbire> I mean I don't think that was the intent
15:36 <Umbire> it does enough to fuck your muscle memory but not enough to really make it harder, artificial or otherwise
15:37 <carlarc> yea so its the same level as before just you might screw up a boulder or two from muscle memory thinking you're in the unflipped level
15:38 <Umbire> Yahuh.
15:48 <carlarc> can you wield ogresmasher, stat shuffle by polymorph, and get a shit ton of hp from 25 con?
15:50 <Umbire> Uhhhhhhhhhh, no clue?
16:10 <tinklebear> carlarc: if +4 hp per level due to constitution counts as a shit ton, then my guess is that you can.
16:10 <carlarc> 30 x 4 is 120
16:11 <tinklebear> o_O
16:12 <mobileuser> carlarc do the shuffle when you get crowned
16:13 <mobileuser> demon gets so much more HP and Pw
16:15 <carlarc> i havent even got secespita yet :/
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16:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:74978
16:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17170
16:42 <qt> the bisection attack from the tsurugi of muramasa is really satisfying
16:43 <K2> ^ that
16:43 <qt> a dragon swallowed me, i 'sliced him wide open' or something and killed him instantly
16:43 <qt> awesome
16:43 <mobileuser> wow
16:46 <mobileuser> lol I found a chest in mine's end on the exact spot where the swap chest is in tnnt
16:47 <amateurhour> #name it
16:49 <mobileuser> heh
16:52 <K2> lol
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17:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a steel shito entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:76469
17:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Orc Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:27330
17:33 <mobileuser> qt the dwarf shk finally killed the zombie, all is well :-)
17:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1327 points, T:1981, zombified by an orc zombie
17:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:77823
17:39 <qt> mobileuser: why can't they just get along :(
17:39 <qt> i wish amaterasu omikami would stop giving me spears
17:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:78215
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17:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) had a magical dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:18224
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18:02 <Umbire> Spearmurai
18:03 <Umbire> on that naginata shit
18:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Rog Hob Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "c", on T:9460
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18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Val Gia Fem Law), 1794 points, T:2637, killed by a gas cloud
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20:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1727 points, T:3083, killed by a wolf
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22:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:22113
23:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:37895
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