00:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:89930
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02:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Hello", on T:3553
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04:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:90765
04:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:90769
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05:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26314
05:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26377
06:21 <rebatela> dammit just lost my protection praying too early 
06:21 <rebatela> F
06:22 <rebatela> NOW i want to kill some priests... no reflection yet though
06:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:1554
06:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1146 points, T:2295, poisoned by an elf zombie
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07:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:27447
07:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:27456
07:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 821 points, T:1703, killed by a piranha
07:31 <rebatela> hypothetically speaking, if one were to zap polymorph at priest, do the spellbooks poly on that first zap? and robe etc. ? 
07:44 <mobileuser> I don't think so...
07:44 <mobileuser> could break out of robe though
07:44 <Graznop> rebatela: pretty sure not - i asked this during tnnt, was able to polymorph high priest, without poly'ing their inventory
07:45 <rebatela> yeah i know in vanilla i've done it. but monsters don't zap polymorph at you in vanilla so i dunno if something changed generally in evil
07:46 <rebatela> i know i lose my armor a lot when i get zapped with it, but i think it's usually a second zap that does that ?
07:46 <rebatela> and turns your boh into a tin opener 
07:46 <rebatela> the worst is standing on a giant stash and having a monster zap poly at you
07:51 <aosdict> that would be a little better if evilhack added the "polymorphed container spills its contents" thing (but only a little better because odds are you get hit with another poly zap and this time it affects the contents on the floor)
07:52 <Graznop> just checked in wizmode - priest's inventory was the same post-polymorph
08:58 <rebatela> i think i'll still get zapped with lightning attacking the priest with polymorph and i don't have rreflection
08:58 <rebatela> might kill me 
08:59 <rebatela> i always forget 
08:59 <rebatela> i DO have magic resistance (eota)
08:59 <rebatela> but now my ac is garbage because i prayed early and lost the 6 points i had. so i want to kill the cross-aligned priest i donated to and donate to my priest 
09:00 <rebatela> the other problem (maybe) is that he's a giant... but i think that just means don't eat or sacrifice 
09:00 <rebatela> killing should just be regular murder 
09:00 <rebatela> so pissed. i was praying for holy water and it was too early or whatever 
09:01 <rebatela> stupid 
09:12 <mobileuser> I remember how you got fried last time you tried that without reflection
09:59 <rebatela> oh good 
09:59 <rebatela> i'm glad someone does. so now i definitely won't do it lol 
10:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3118
10:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1504 points, T:5169, killed by a fire ant
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10:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2840
11:35 <bouquet> regarding poly... I got lucky recently with medusa and her polywand. She zapped me once and I was able to drop everything and move.
11:35 <bouquet> not sure if that helps
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11:54 <bouquet> does tiamat have random passive dragonscale affects when hit?  Do I run the risk of hitter her and potentially disintegrating or cancelling my weapon?
12:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Tiamat, on T:90727
12:20 <bouquet> no scales :(
12:20 <mobileuser> :-(
12:21 <bouquet> first time meeting her as a giant samurai. Would have been epic
12:21 <mobileuser> bouquet no passive attacks I think
12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2534764 points, T:90862, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge
12:23 <bouquet> oh well
12:23 <bouquet> I thought the drawbridges in gehennom weren't susceptible to /oStriking?
12:23 <mobileuser> they are :-(
12:24 <bouquet> ffs
12:24 <mobileuser> that is why I always blow them up first
12:24 <bouquet> I blow up the castle. I tried VoTD and it didn't blow up.
12:24 <mobileuser> I know that rebatela has died a number of times that way
12:24 <mobileuser> happened to me in the sanctum
12:25 <mobileuser> VotD is the only one that doesn't blow up
12:27 <bouquet> whevs
12:28 <bouquet> I only regret that I probably didn't leave any bones.
12:28 <bouquet> they would have been awesome.
12:28 <bouquet> my sexy bones
12:29 <mobileuser> very likely there will be bones
12:30 <mobileuser> very likely VaderFLAG will find them :b
12:30 <mobileuser> I'm already too far in gehennom
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12:32 <bouquet> I suppose I should probably do some actual "work" now. Sigh...
12:32 <mobileuser> geez they wasted no time firing that striking wand
12:33 <bouquet> the problem is that this will now move to the top my caution around drawbridges thus pushing down other valid concerns so I'll YASD in a completely different way next round.
12:33 <bouquet> I've only got room for one YASD lookout at a time.
12:34 <mobileuser> "ok, getting ready to blow up the drawbridge..."
12:34 <mobileuser> "the salamander wraps its arms around you!"
12:35 <bouquet> heh
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12:47 <mobileuser> "You again sense Orion pleading for help.  You remember this level as KILL ORION."
12:47 <mobileuser> @e?Orion
12:47 <Hecubus> Orion (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d8 cast spell | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, swims, amphibious, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible
12:47 <VaderFLAG> Oh no, stupid drawbridges
12:47 <VaderFLAG> !lastgame bouquet
12:47 <Hecubus> VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1639431162.evil.html
12:50 <bouquet> hope someone gets those bones. They're really awesome
12:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) refused to give up The Longbow of Diana to Orion, on T:28594
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12:56 <mobileuser> my god I'm getting 10 "guilty" messages before I have even killed anyone
12:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orion, on T:28600
12:59 <VaderFLAG> I attacked a gremlin that had multiplied and got 23 guilty messages from that one attack
13:01 <bouquet> EPI: gremlins turn into gargoyles when they're exposed to water. They go from cute and peaceful to hideous and aggressive.
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 8772 points, T:8107, killed by a fire ant
13:03 <mobileuser> VaderFLAG all the peaceful ones turned hostile?
13:06 <mobileuser> I've been thinking that it could be interesting to replace this "permanent alignment record" thing with a reputation rule system
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13:22 <amateurhour> mobileuser: GUILTY
13:23 <amateurhour> what was the guilt thing for, attacking the quest leader and their minions? (before they died)
13:34 <VaderFLAG> Yeah a sea of GASP! as they went hostile
13:35 <mobileuser> amateurhour refusing to give back the quest arti was enough
13:35 <mobileuser> I hadn't even attacked anyone yet
13:36 <mobileuser> so I'm back to pious and Mars is still angry :-(
13:36 <mobileuser> even a purple worm was not enough
13:36 <mobileuser> le sigh, to the wiki...
13:39 <mobileuser> hmmm purple worm should have been enough
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13:39 <mobileuser> K2 why is Mars still angry
13:39 <bouquet> mobileuser: I've been there often. It takes a lot of high level monster sacrifices at a low dungeon level. The altar in Katharyn's castle is a good spot. Lots of high level baddies.
13:40 <mobileuser> it won't help my alignment if I need to kill the peaceful priest first ;-)
13:40 <mobileuser> acoording to the wiki the purple worm should have mollified Mars immediately
13:41 <mobileuser> hmm maybe not
13:42 <mobileuser> I am probably thinking of the case where anger is only -1
13:42 <Graznop> also harder if you're chaotic
13:42 <mobileuser> But evil K2 has of course forced much more anger upon me :b
13:43 <mobileuser> yeah, I know the level boundary
13:43 <mobileuser> but in vanilla I have usually cured anger with 1 powerful sac
13:48 <mobileuser> @e?white unicorn
13:48 <Hecubus> white unicorn (u) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 70 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d12 butt physical, 1d6 kick physical | Alignment: 7 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, infravisible
13:48 <K2> how much it takes to mollify your deity hasnt been changed from vanilla
13:48 <mobileuser> I'll just abuse a geno scroll
13:48 <mobileuser> I understand K2
13:49 <mobileuser> just not used to my god being that angry
13:50 <mobileuser> food time...
13:51 <K2> someone zap cure sickness at me
13:51 <K2> please :P
13:51 <bouquet> obviously my attempt didn't work.
13:51 <bouquet> do yo got the 'rona?
13:51 <K2> not covid thank goodness (2 tests came back neg) just nasty head cold
13:52 <bouquet> or "the 'vid" as the kids are calling it
13:52 <K2> got the cold my daughter had last week
13:54 <bouquet> I really dislike colds. I've found I can treat them really effectively with a combo of afrin sprayed up my snout and nasal irrigation.
13:55 <bouquet> 100% cure 10% of the time
13:55 <bouquet> if you can't find any Afrin you can try cocaine
13:55 <K2> hah
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13:57 <bouquet> serious about afrin and irrigation. It's feels like you scraped the goo out of your skull with a spackle knife.
13:58 <bouquet> but I'm not a doctor. I don't even play on in Nethack.
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14:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4062 points, T:3722, killed by a goblin-captain called Oth-uuna of Rukuulai
14:54 <mobileuser> Yay, Mars finally mollified
15:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:29591
15:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 501 points, T:2198, killed by a sewer rat
15:01 <mobileuser> Orcrist, I guess I had that coming
15:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 154 points, T:709, killed by a fox, while frozen by a trap
15:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 1638490 points, T:30331, killed by a touch of death
15:17 <mobileuser> OMG
15:17 <mobileuser> gone is the streak
15:18 <mobileuser> forgot I took off MR cloak :-(
15:18 <mobileuser> it's a day of splats
15:20 <cbus> oh no, my condolences
15:20 <Graznop> oof. rip
15:20 <mobileuser> first bouquet, now me :-)
15:21 <mobileuser> juicy bones
15:22 <mobileuser> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1639421148.evil.html
15:23 <mobileuser> yeah, stupid death
15:27 <K2> :/
15:28 <bouquet> full-ish moon, maybe that's the problem.
15:34 <mobileuser> heh
15:35 <mobileuser> better go do some relaxing dishes... :b
15:37 <cbus> haha
15:37 <cbus> I have been in a shitty headspace for nethacking too the last week(s)
15:41 <bouquet> "The succubus seductively washes the dishes"
15:42 <bouquet> if such a thing is possible
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16:02 <K2> oh its possible
16:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:3453
16:03 <mobileuser> incubus in the case of K2
16:06 <K2> :)
16:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:4954
16:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 667 points, T:1846, killed by a giant mosquito
16:25 <bouquet> this is weird. A hole appeared in the line of holes I already covered up in soko 1
16:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 13140 points, T:8237, killed by a black unicorn
16:44 <spicyCebolla> drum of earthquake? mimic? acid hound?
16:44 <spicyCebolla> oh, qt's not here
16:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1548 points, T:2976, killed by a bugbear
16:59 <bouquet> if such a thing is possible
17:02 <bouquet> spicyCebolla: I had to watch the ttyrec... Start watching at turn 6700 if you want to see it for yourself. There was a zombie in the spot. Maybe he was buried and I dug him up?
17:03 <bouquet> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/ttyrec/2021-12-20.20:46:11.ttyrec.gz
17:03 <bouquet> oh wait, the zombie wasn't on the mysterious hole
17:04 <bouquet> unfortunately, I was blind when I walked into it.
17:05 <bouquet> quite the mystery
17:27 <mobileuser> I think VaderFLAG has experience with buried zombies creating holes in soko
17:28 <mobileuser> when they revive
17:29 <bouquet> so they do that, night of the living dead style?
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17:49 <Umbire> Yes, as they do anywhere else.
17:49 <Umbire> It's just that extra holes in Sokoban are bad.
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18:07 <Graznop> bouquet: the Z was in a hole when you killed it (6577), then you filled in the hole (6592), then it revived...
18:26 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9cc0a8c46816f2c8b6134e47245fa4b580af8a4e
18:26 <K2> ^ buried zombos
19:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 468 points, T:1469, killed by a water moccasin
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dramborleg", on T:664
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20:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:3144
20:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2763 points, T:2762, killed by a bolt of lightning
20:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3220
21:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 6559 points, T:7001, withered away
21:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 818 points, T:1243, killed by a dart
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22:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2764 points, T:3069, killed by a lizard
23:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Novice, on T:2365
23:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7255
23:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:2538
23:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of mud boots on an altar, on T:3653
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