00:16 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 00:16 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:19417 01:25 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 01:25 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest6335 01:25 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 01:29 -!- Guest6335 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Brute, on T:15037 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:59167 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:59172 03:18 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 03:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:60240 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had a war hammer entrusted to her by Athena, on T:62004 05:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Athena, on T:63124 05:51 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:03 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 07:00 "You finish eating the giant monk corpse.  You feel very strong!" 07:01 THAT's what giant monks are good for 07:05 damn i thought the leocrotta was bad until the chameleon turned into an archlich rip me 07:05 somehow i survived! 07:05 it will probably be an alhoon next 07:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:15637 07:10 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper dagger on an altar, on T:3052 07:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Mars, on T:15681 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather falconry gloves entrusted to him by Kos, on T:3211 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful jumping spider, on T:3499 07:34 another arch lich in sokoban wtf 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:14988 07:41 and of course it's gold again. having some serious deja vu 07:42 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5050 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3099 07:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:16394 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a jumping spider, on T:16123 07:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 48131 points, T:16266, killed by a tiger, while dressing up 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1664 points, T:3497, killed by a fire ant 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible McPanther's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:6057 08:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 921 points, T:2247, killed by an iguana 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a mithril knife entrusted to him by Kos, on T:8413 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:9297 09:50 "The troll puts a cave spider corpse into her sack." ... yeah, very useful :-) 09:50 dont judge 09:51 you'll hurt the troll's feelings 09:51 it's very sweet. good troll! 09:51 lol 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14755 10:06 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15 you've never saved a snack for later? 10:15 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:45399 10:18 aosdict if I find an icebox I will try to give that to the troll 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 651 points, T:1302, killed by a dart, while frozen by a potion 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2198 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4709 points, T:3863, poisoned by a quasit 10:36 damn what just happened 10:36 !lastgame qt 10:36 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1639754468.evil.html 10:36 the quasit got like 10 attacks in on me lol 10:38 owie 10:42 @e?quasit 10:42 quasit (i) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 15 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d2 claw drain dex, 1d2 claw drain dex, 1d4 bite physical | Alignment: -7 | Flags: genocidable, regenerates, stalker, infravisible 10:42 @e?vampire lord 10:42 No such monster. 10:43 @e?vampirelord 10:43 No such monster. 10:43 @e?vampire_lord 10:43 No such monster. 10:43 * tinklebear isn't going to start using quotation marks or anything wild like that 10:44 @e?"vampire lord" 10:44 No such monster. 10:45 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:45 tinklebear try vampire leader 10:45 no 10:45 @e?vampire leader 10:45 No such monster. 10:45 it's called something gender neutral i think 10:45 not doing "vampire noble" either 10:45 oh yeah maybe it's vampire noble 10:45 that stuff is for the birds 10:45 dont use " " 10:45 you're right, that is it 10:45 and vampire royal 10:45 no 10:45 * tinklebear is on strike 10:46 @e?vampire royal 10:46 vampire royal (V) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 18 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 2d6 claw physical, 1d10 bite level drain | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 10:46 * tinklebear cover his eyes 10:46 @e?vampire mage 10:46 vampire mage (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Attacks: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 cast spell | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 10:46 * tinklebear put on blindfold 10:46 put on a cursed blindfold so you're not tempted 10:46 * tinklebear cannot see right now 11:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 11:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46211 11:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46212 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:46248 11:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:46254 11:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:46460 11:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46466 11:53 yay. No amulet chasing yet 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1558 points, T:2449, killed by a jumping spider 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1155 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5962 points, T:3661, killed by an invisible plains centaur 12:15 i hate centaurs 12:16 hate. let me tell you how much i've come to hate centaurs since i began to play. there are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill hardfought's server. if the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate i feel for centaurs. 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:1116 12:22 no really qt... tell us how you *really* feel 12:22 and did you get DB with or without the owner? 12:23 who or what is Dragonbane's owner? 12:23 it'll be an npc 12:23 knight i think? 12:24 oh. no it just appeared in my hands 12:24 nice 12:24 and why all the hate for centaurs? we <3 centaurs 12:25 do you mean monster centaurs or player race centaurs? 12:26 qt: centaurbane when 12:26 brb 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2424 12:38 \o/ 12:41 D&D centaurs are like naked celts with horsebutts. evilhack centaurs wear armor and its ridiculous 12:41 * tinklebear is just telling it like it is 12:43 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/narnia/images/a/a7/Oreius.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20061201021633 12:44 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/be/5d/66be5d011a78ecb8a7eb9901f8c92713.jpg 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:47382 12:47 K2 who are you paying off to saturate the culture with these Xena-warrior-princess/Hercules-the-amazing-adventures ass counterfeit centaurs 12:48 and why do they all look like lieutenant worff? 12:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:47387 12:48 lol 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) genocided giant eels, on T:47389 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) genocided krakens, on T:47390 12:51 go Graznop go! 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:10536 13:15 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:15 hi 13:15 Hello krm26, Welcome to #evilhack 13:17 dang i found a magic lamp and izchak has two more 13:17 and i already got dragonbane 13:17 can't wait to die horribly 13:17 poor baby! 13:17 i hope you survive your angry djinni 13:22 just found a bag of holding too 13:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:47707 13:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:47708 13:31 what do you guys think I should try to wish for once I can bless these magic lamps? gdsm? 13:34 silver ya of lightning 13:34 i am a samurai, this is my current inventory https://termbin.com/8wlx 13:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bone large splint mail of decay named "What do you mean no refunds? It doesn't fit!"", on T:47751 13:34 tinklebear: is that really a good early wish? won't they get mulched? 13:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 4158845 points, T:47756, ascended 13:35 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/evilhack/dumplog/1639335574.evil.html 13:35 congrats Graznop 13:36 Thx qt! 13:37 qt: yeah they will, if you don't fix up your luck 13:37 evil how the riders can pick up boulders 13:38 * tinklebear just has irrational attachment to silver ya 13:39 yay Graznop! 13:39 congratulations Graznop 13:39 I went for mithril large on my current sammy -- never casting 13:40 thx! 13:41 Gotta show up in your new heavenly home with shiny new duds, I like it 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:13407 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:13927 13:48 i found some krm26 samurai bones. no yumi, no ya. 13:49 am I the only one who uses yumi/ya as an early game escape item? 13:49 when i'm a giant i chuck that garbage as soon as i have a big rock :-) 13:49 i use it as other races 13:49 lol. I see. 13:49 and i really apologize for my crap early bones 13:50 oh no. they were fine. nothing wrong with a katana 13:50 and two bags of holding. 13:50 and a wand of death from the gnoll killer 13:50 ah, that death 13:50 just had to laugh 13:51 "welp!" 13:53 if i die at the right stage there is always a wand of cancellation in an oilskin sack to go along with the cursed bag of holding 13:53 i *kinda* think that in evilhack, wands of cancellation should be removed from bones that also have a cursed bag of holding 13:53 that cursed bag is pretty useful! 13:54 zombie compactor 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:50670 13:56 I missed an ascension! 13:56 congrats Graznop!! 13:56 no you didn't. you were all over the astral plane! 13:57 lol 13:57 an ascension with like 8,000 wooly mammoths somehow 13:57 i think three of the npcs were mobileuser 13:58 "The woolly mammoth drops an uncursed illithid wizard corpse named Mobileuser the Enchanter" 13:58 lovely! 13:58 how did you do all those mammoths? cursed genocide and charm monster? 13:58 you like that better than worms? 13:59 It's way better than worms now that there's slow digestion all over astral 13:59 next we'll see oilskin cloaks to prevent mammoth grabbing 13:59 4 cursed geno and confused taming 14:00 those mammoths demolish just about anything but the riders 14:00 sneaky riders were able to pick up the big rocks that i'd brought along too 14:00 when you cursed geno worms, you should get a message like "You hear lockers slamming and someone yelling about putting rings on" and then 90% of the humanoids should get rings of slow digestion 14:01 you mean boulders don't block riders? 14:01 yes, boulders don't block riders 14:01 evil! 14:02 what about their horses? 14:02 evil indeed! but boulders are still so much fun 14:02 i wonder what the result would be of taking like 20 scrolls of earth with you and just filling up astral as you move 14:02 I _think_ that death picked one up whilst mounted 14:03 scrolls of earth don't work on astral? 14:03 really? never knew 14:03 not in vanilla, assuming the same in evil 14:03 does drum of earthquake not make pits either? 14:04 drums of earthquake do appear to work as normal 14:08 i like this smiley face in the music.c comments 14:08 Generate earthquake :-) of desired force. 14:08 earthquake :-) 14:08 sounds like someone was a fan of earthquakes :-) 14:08 there are LOTS of smiley faces in the code 14:08 gnark, gnark 14:09 that was in a comment in 3.0.0 14:09 Moreover, there are traps in the stronghold, that can send the player to hell (gnark, gnark)! 14:09 The hell is a gnark? 14:09 what does it mean? i don't know. but I like it (gnark, gnark)! 14:09 i have been assuming it's like a snicker/laugh? 14:09 rings of conflict seem to be just ornamentation at charisma 8 14:09 marx bros? 14:10 * tinklebear hopes it isn't three stooges 14:10 * tinklebear fears it probably is 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:60174 14:10 Well, ok, sure. 14:11 Really I just wanted luck before killing the wizard 14:11 I notice centaur bashing in the backscroll :@ 14:11 Centaurs are rad 14:11 ^ that 14:11 grumbles about "centaurs these days" 14:11 lol 14:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) stole 889 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kabalebo's general store, on T:3704 14:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2625 points, T:4371, killed by a dog, while frozen by a potion 14:23 crime doesnt pay 14:26 there's a vorpal jabberwock in the big room, right next to the upstairs... 14:27 is that a polytrap result or can they generate that early? it's dlvl11 14:27 chameleon or polytrap 14:27 @e?vorpal jabberwock 14:27 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, infravisible 14:27 yeah now way it generates naturally. big room also doesnt leave bones iirc 14:28 it's not a chameleon, I checked with a stethoscope :/ 14:28 so on the one hand, good, I can use the polytrap. on the other hand, bad, there's a vorpal jabberwock right next to the stairs 14:31 worst case scenario, I could probably burn a wish on a death wand or something 14:41 unless you miss 14:41 ohhh crap acid green v with no disintegration resist 14:44 boulders to the rescue 14:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:06 hmm I just fell into the middle of the orc temple mines end 15:07 wow there's another bag of holding here 15:08 this game is way too generous, probably because it knows i will die to the vorpal jabberwock 15:08 At least it's in the big room, plenty of room to maneuver 15:08 speed 12 15:08 dig down and kill it with missiles or something 15:09 but there's all the other monsters in the big room too, i'm worried if I dig down and don't have access to the stairs I'll get surrounded quickly 15:09 ...once you have digging wand with enough charges to escape if you need to 15:10 that is a good call tinklebear, I will keep an eye out for a digging wand 15:10 hey 15:10 Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack 15:11 i just found one 15:11 nice 15:12 good luck! 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60560 15:15 Hi. 15:15 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 15:15 hey Umbire 15:15 long time no see 15:15 Mhm. 15:15 Graznop congrats \o/ 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18542 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:60569 15:16 2x double trouble and ALL THREE were MR 15:16 thanks K2, that was fun 15:17 nice 15:17 sorry I missed it :/ work pulled me away as usual 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:60581 15:18 my greatest enemy, a centaur, is blocking the stairs 15:18 VaderFLAG, the opening containers made of a hated material burning you while wearing gloves fix is in 15:18 it was pleasantly uneventful, so you didn't miss much 15:18 woolly rain? 15:18 WOO go elves! 15:18 it was raining wool, yes 15:19 the way monsters use bags is cool 15:19 sneaky riders picking up boulders! 15:19 the centaur had picked up the boh i left on the floor and put a bunch of stuff in it 15:19 YANI: no spell/scroll of identify. instead, various items kinda like touchstones for identifying categories of items, with different classes having different affinities/advantages using them 15:20 noooo 15:20 i love my id spellbook 15:20 i love it too 15:20 the parts i love the most are the things i spend time thinking about removing :-) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:60598 15:21 doesn't dnethack track whether you have magically identified stuff? 15:22 Demon princes just appearing at the upstairs, fun fun 15:22 lol krm26 15:23 needs to be a player race with a trunk like a wooly mammoth 15:24 I miss anything important? 15:25 oh god yes 15:25 qt, fill him in 15:26 you could leave epic gravestones if you died while hallucinating but the devs deleted it bcuz it was too fun :(( 15:26 Howdy, krm26, welcome to NetHack! You are an invisible neutral male snuffalupagous. 15:26 or a race with multiple sets of hands :-) like a four-armed naga, 2 gloves, 4 rings, no armor/shirt/boots, no riding -- wiz/priest/ranger 15:26 being snuffy would be less fun now that everyone can see him 15:26 k2 that was a great setup but i can't think of anything funny to say 15:26 does the trunk have to original from their face? asking for a friend 15:26 *originate 15:26 krm26: blasphemy 15:26 Man, shambling horrors being reset when you find bones is something I have real trouble remembering 15:27 K2: _that_ is not a trunk 15:27 you don't know about that change, tinklebear? sad but i guess necessary 15:27 * tinklebear sighs 15:27 VaderFLAG that'll be fixed next version. fix is save breaking 15:27 is it is prehensile it qualifies as a trunk 15:27 Oh very good 15:27 k2: when you get bones it should ADD in the horror abilities 15:27 Pinkbeast, is that a trunk in your pocket? etc etc 15:27 every bones! 15:28 K2: Maybe I'm pleased to see you _too_ 15:28 lol 15:29 or maybe just when there is a horror on the bones level. for integrity, union those abilities with the current abilities (for the rest of the game) 15:31 Still a regular font of questionable ideas, I see. 15:31 * tinklebear thought for sure that shambling horror thing was a-feature-not-a-bug 15:32 I hear you want more suggestions Umbire! 15:33 Let me add you to my mailing list 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19694 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:19946 15:38 a honey badger is eating my royal jellies :@ 15:38 evil! evil! 15:38 oh hecusbus!? 15:38 dammit 15:38 HECUBUS 15:38 Is that part of the stuff I actually missed? 15:39 the non-sarcastic version of 'stuff I missed' can be found here - https://www.hardfought.org/irclog.evil/ 15:39 i can't think of anything really significant that has happened in the pat 2 weeks 15:39 Meant more specific to the game than anything. 15:40 Updates, what not. 15:40 oh game specific updates? https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 15:41 Thank you. 15:41 Trying to prune tabs, so. 15:41 but you knew about the repo already thought right? 15:41 if I have dragonbane, gdsm, and a boh already what should i get from sokoban? 15:41 *though 15:42 helm of speed 15:42 qt, go for amulet 15:42 gah 15:42 if you get MR then you can swap out the scales for BDSM or yellow, etc 15:42 * tinklebear did "gah" to helm of speed 15:42 I knew about the repo but my focus both regarding this and in general has been elsewhere. 15:42 marker marker marker! 15:42 50% speed, 50% marker, 50% reflection 15:42 just gotta go for it 15:43 oh dragonbane, so you want marker 15:43 Umbire, anything else you need a report on? :) 15:43 heh 15:43 That should suffice for now, thank you. 15:43 ok back to work people! 15:43 graznop: congrats! 15:43 Later. 15:44 go for the marker then you can have two bags 15:44 Graznop: but i already have 2 bags 15:44 i would have 3 bags 15:44 it would indeed suck 15:44 start a bag shop 15:44 thanks rebatela! 15:45 a m u l e t 15:45 what are the different possible armors? 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:60756 15:46 * tinklebear like VaderFLAG, would flip the coin for the marker 15:46 helm of speed and gauntlets of protection 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:60759 15:46 yellow DSM is good 15:46 AoY didn't teleport 15:47 i bet that felt good didnt it VaderFLAG 15:47 you being an elf and all 15:47 Yes, and with extra dirge mithril damage too! 15:47 Very appropraite 15:47 hah 15:47 DIRGE \o/ 15:47 Lawful swinging Stormbringer and Dirge \o/ 15:48 evil 15:48 hmm i opened the amulet door but i can still choose between the amulet and tool 15:48 is this like the monty hall problem where it's giving me a chance to switch 15:48 no you cant 15:49 k2 spectate me, I assure you I can 15:49 door turned to wall, prob havent updated screen 15:49 hmm ok 15:49 unless the other door was destroyed by a monster? 15:49 * tinklebear likes it when that happens 15:49 ah i see 15:49 its fine 15:49 yeah a monster broke it 15:49 once you touch one, others will go poof 15:50 Can confirm. 15:50 not evil enough 15:50 need to go poof when a monster breaks a door down too 15:50 ^ pure evil 15:50 * tinklebear glares at aosdict 15:50 get the amulet qt 15:50 no balls 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:20540 15:51 \o/ 15:51 BOO 15:51 now you can be picky on body armor 15:51 marker is more DIY 15:51 hey I thought it used to show you what the other prize options would have been 15:51 what gives 15:51 fixed 15:51 'fixed' aka broken 15:51 no soup for you! 15:51 it was great trolling opportunity! 15:51 that was cool :( 15:52 mmm, soup 15:52 i wish i had been able to see i'd have gotten the marker 15:52 yeah. i kinda liked it. k2 must have gotten annoyed when he saw he didn't get a marker 15:52 it should always show you something great and unattainable 15:52 like a tv gameshow - "let's have a look at what you could have won" 15:52 yeah it was awesome, caused a lot of rage 15:52 "eternal marker", "helm of flight", etc 15:52 there's ample opportunity for more rage 15:52 not really 15:52 haha 15:53 oh yes there is 15:53 i am very zen now that i have nothing else to lose 15:53 you have taken away my opportunity to see marker 15:53 you can still lose your zen! 15:53 how can things get worse 15:53 evilhack just asked me to hold its beer 15:53 we should make an irc bot to hold beer 15:53 and name it BeerHolder 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:54628 15:54 doh 15:54 :P 15:54 no thats good krm26 15:54 i just wanted holy water :-P 15:54 congrats, krm26 15:54 wasn't ready 15:54 you might have obtained sick res 15:54 sick res, dude 15:54 DUDE 15:55 sick res? not i 15:55 do giants pick up boulders in sokoban before the level is completed? 15:55 non-player giants i mean 15:55 is there a chance of a cool abnormal intrinsic when crowned now? never seen it 15:56 omg i just went downstairs and the vorpal jabberwock was there 15:56 i didn't realize what level i was on 15:56 he knocked me down to half health right away, could easily have been a yasd lol 15:58 Oh, hi aosdict. 15:58 * K2 is still holding evilhack's beer 16:05 YANI, new monster in blob class -- slowly oozes around destroying terrain things -- traps, ALTARS. engulfs, acid, INVIS so it has time to hoover up things you don't want it to. timid, slow. splits like puddings. 16:06 i did it 16:07 i stoned the vorpal jabberwock 16:07 when you're both stoned you're more likely to get along 16:07 on the way i fell into a pit and i thought i had died, but i remembered to stuff the trice in a bag first 16:08 got a mumak too 16:10 huh... what just happened 16:11 i killed a chickatrice, put its corpse into my bag, then immediately went to take it out again 16:11 and it's gone 16:11 did it rot away right after i put it in the bag? within like 1-2 turns of the corpse being generated? 16:11 you sure only one or two turns elapsed? 16:12 bag cursed? 16:14 nope, blessed 16:15 krm26: definitely not more than like 10 turns, I think... 16:15 qt: could it have stacked with an older corpse? 16:15 hmm, maybe so 16:15 if you had one in there, it did 16:15 i thought the one I had was a cockatrice corpse but maybe it was a chickatrice 16:15 you're probably right 16:16 I name trice corpses with the turn i estimate they'll rot on, when I pick them up. 16:16 this prevents the stacking 16:17 (the way corpses stack is really funny) 16:22 nice i got 4 points of protection from the initial donation 16:26 wtf is this room 16:26 owlbear room? 16:26 Yes, owlbear nests are a thing. 16:26 wow 16:26 horrifying 16:26 Just don't get grabbed. 16:26 4Head 16:27 if owlbears were better parents, they wouldn't sit smack in the middle of all their children 16:28 It's a classroom. They teach in the round 16:28 * tinklebear is incapacitated 16:30 is there any way to get pets onto a polytrap now without a magic whistle? 16:30 You can leash them in, but it's tedious 16:31 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4884 16:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:33 Love AT&T so much. 16:34 Totally not fantasizing about legally unactionable things right now. 16:34 -!- Guest4884 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34 what is the range that the nymph level can show up? 16:34 i figured I didn't get it this game but it's down here on level 16 16:35 i thought it was closer to the oracle 16:35 It's a wider range in EvilHack if I recall. 16:35 early Aphrodite is AWFUL 16:42 damn she stole snickersnee 16:44 my kingdom for a wand of opening! 16:44 or at least a stethoscope 16:46 the wand of opening is in the iron safe in VoTD, right? 16:46 Ya 16:46 I guess I can polypile all these mirrors 16:47 bouquet_ bo bell of opening yet? 16:47 *no bell 16:47 (K2 killed Charon to get a wand of opening) 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:25067 16:48 finally 16:50 @e?Aphrodite 16:50 Aphrodite (n) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: unique | AC: -5 | Attacks: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: teleports, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 16:50 oh right, I could do the bell 16:50 blessed, yes 16:50 I can bless it 16:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:61935 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:61938 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 8689 points, T:6296, killed by an orcish arrow 17:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:62127 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:62129 17:11 was that a pegasus pet? 17:13 The sad feeling? yeah 17:13 wow, pegasus all to the way to astral 17:13 Well, it sat unused for a long time but it made it from medusa to astral which is pretty amazing 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:62193 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:62195 17:16 did you have barding for it? 17:16 I did but it didn't end up mattering 17:16 Oh no wait I must not have, since it got eaten 17:17 well depends on the barding 17:19 congrats VaderFLAG! 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law), 2544294 points, T:62216, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1639166639.evil.html 17:19 \o/ 17:19 congratz! 17:19 boo. yah. 17:19 congratualtions, VaderFLAG 17:21 GG. 17:22 and conventulations! 17:23 Vanilla's adopted the change where you can enter the quest at XL10, yeah? 17:27 no 17:29 Seem to have remembered otherwise... ah well. 17:43 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5441 17:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:46 -!- Guest5441 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:12316 17:56 boo 17:57 Umbire: in 3.7 it looks like you can gain quest access by killing the quest leader. Maybe you were thinking of that. 17:58 upon reflection, you should have gone for the marker, K2? 18:00 boo hiss 18:00 so bad 18:02 :D 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Mal Law), 36914 points, T:12564, zombified by an ettin zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:03 oops 18:03 what? 18:03 i forgot to put my amulet of reflection back on 18:03 tinklebear: No, I'm aware of that 18:04 I'm talking about the experience level threshold specifically. 18:04 sad face 18:04 upon relf...nevermined 18:04 somehow I feel like qt is to blame 18:04 not sure how exactly 18:04 just a... feeling 18:04 gotcha, Umbire 18:04 to blame for what 18:04 me dying just now 18:04 how could you 18:04 oh, yes, i did do that 18:05 !? 18:05 I thought we were friends 18:05 the ettin zombie was merely carrying out my orders 18:05 i want my records back 18:05 !lastgame K2 18:05 tinklebear: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1639712071.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577469384.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1576941662.evil.html 18:06 i was trying to improve our connection by zombifying you 18:06 notice the ettin zombie and I are good enough friends that he did me this favor. zombies and I just click 18:06 heh 18:06 i dont have a witty comeback for that 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had a heavy war hammer entrusted to her by Athena, on T:67606 18:07 "You forget your training in witty repartee!" 18:09 :) 18:25 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest93 18:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:28 -!- Guest93 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2758 18:41 K2, did you add younger mumak or no 18:42 I legitimately don't remember 18:42 no 18:43 Right, thank you 18:52 yung mumak is the name k2 uses to produce hip hop tracks 18:53 beat by yung mumak *trumpeting elephant sound effects* 18:53 hip hip hop, hip hip hop, hip hip hop, hurray! 18:55 "does the trunk have to original from their face? asking for a friend" 18:55 * tinklebear shakes head 18:55 *in despair 19:08 :D 19:10 my deity isn't in a giving mood. Not even a shiv. Any suggestions for an offhand weapon for giant samurai? I'm partial to Muramasa+Sunsword, but maybe Muramasa+Excalibur? 19:10 sunsword is amazeballs in vecnaville 19:12 wow. i just found another magic lamp 19:12 fourth magic lamp this game 19:13 turn it in to lost & found 19:14 also, connecting over ipv6 was hella slow so I checked the route... 20 hops! hardfought via v4 was only 6 and noticably different. 19:19 Oh yeah, Evil version update was on my birthday. 19:19 s/on/two days after 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3380 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3396 19:23 hmm what should i genocide? gelcubes? 19:23 i got a throne geno 19:24 disenchanters 19:24 those things are a pain 19:25 locusts are also a nuisance 19:25 but i think a gelcube will kill me if it comes near me rn, and I just saw one a couple levels above 19:25 i don't have free action or magical breathing yet 19:25 but they provide lots of good resistances 19:25 yeah ugh 19:25 oh, that's a problem. 19:25 You can get those resistances elsewhere. 19:25 Unless you're vegan. 19:26 Even then, you'll want every opportunity you can get. 19:26 ooh can i genocide those antimatter vortices 19:27 or are they ungenocideable 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:29856 19:27 huh i thought for sure it would tell me i wasn't allowed 19:27 I geno those for sure. 19:27 late game, though 19:29 ooh actually i do have magical breathing 19:29 I just hadn't IDed it 19:29 that's good 19:29 You might be thinking of elementals, qt. 19:30 ...wait, are any vortices genocidable normally. 19:30 I have to revisit that. 19:31 i really need sleep res :/ 19:32 not a single damn elf has left a corpse yet 19:33 I kind of wish cure sickness could de-zombiefy zombie elves for that purpose 19:33 Yeah, cure sickness targeted at corpses should make them edible! 19:35 Just had a thought. 19:35 Couldn't you technically farm puddings for resistances? 19:36 Also, no tinning kit? 19:36 You can and it's great 19:38 wtf I lost snickersnee somehow :-O 19:39 stupid dwarven axe... argh 19:39 Should put an alert in your rc for that 19:41 snickersnee never materialized for me. It must have been somewhere and I never found it 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:55491 19:46 aww, we were playing catch 19:47 [EvilHack] RojjaCebolla forked the repository - https://git.io/J28Rd 19:51 frost salamanders can traverse iron bars? 19:53 frost salamanders are cool 19:53 sad that k2 nerfed their anti-drawbridge power 19:53 heh 19:53 salanders are medium in size, i dont think they can (iron bars) 19:53 it made them super dangerous, i guess k2 wanted the game to be a bit easier and more geared towards little babies 19:53 *salamanders 19:53 salads 19:54 qt did you step on a poly trap? 19:54 i just killed a frost salamander in iron bars in Kathryn's level 19:54 it seemed really weird to me 19:54 K2: what do you mean? 19:54 just curious. you sound like a troll :P 19:55 I have this fear that I'm going to learn the hard way that frost salamanders can somehow drown me in ice 19:55 I get that feeling every time too 19:55 they cant 19:55 i suspect the salamander was in the bars in error 19:55 ice is solid 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4954 19:55 as in not liquid 19:55 why should that stop you, K2 19:55 K2: lol i know you know i never believed the anti-drawbridge salamander to be a feature or a 'fun challenge' :) 19:55 so i felt confident you would recognize my intent :) 19:55 i know :P 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4976 19:56 i have to be snarky back, otherwise i lose my ultra street cred 19:56 maybe the frost salamanders are actually driving zambonis and they submerge you in the ice that way? 19:56 incredible, +7 tsurugi/+6 snicker just 2-shotted a wooly mammoth 19:56 omg zambo's 19:56 mistype, 3-shotted 19:56 last time i gave the 'salamanders used to be powerful anti-drawbridge monsters, but k2 nerfed them' speech i realized they still disabled drawbridges 19:56 krm26 sees the light 19:57 so im hoping i will notice some other circumstances where that's true this time 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5004 19:57 ah 19:57 you want the bug to live 19:57 i thought that bug caused a crash 19:57 a bad one 19:58 if you get ill from eating a zombie, does that somehow affect your success at spellcasting? 19:59 * tinklebear doesn't have a lot of experience with zombie-eating 19:59 [EvilHack] RojjaCebolla opened pull request #87: Add some bogusmons based on the ice branch - https://git.io/JD6Fp 19:59 I mean, cure sickness stops zombification, right? 20:00 no and yes 20:00 illness doesnt affect spellcasting 20:00 cure sickness cures any type of illness 20:01 so, if you kill a freshly generated-and-killed elf zombie, and if you can cast cure sickness... 20:01 ...then you can eat the corpse 20:01 yeah 20:01 but there's no benefit 20:01 there IS if you tin it 20:02 oh, because the elf corpse from the zombie doesn't give resistances, by fiat? 20:02 right 20:02 spicyCebolla lol I'm reading your PR 20:02 sometimes (in vanilla at least) a really fresh zombie won't be totally poisonous 20:03 yeah you can get lucky 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:56166 20:03 wait. in evil as well? 20:03 no 20:03 ok 20:04 spicyCebolla, 'pigasus' already exists, see line 72 in bogusmon.txt 20:04 oh no! 20:04 :/ 20:04 Peg 20:05 bonbon and oozy lol 20:05 K2: pegasis has some realworld connotations tho 20:05 er 20:05 krm26: 20:05 not k2 20:05 nicknames we have for them here is 'burbs' and 'oz-boz' 20:05 and 'ozzy bear' 20:06 ^ mini-me uses that one a lot 20:06 nice bogons spicyCebolla 20:06 hey now 20:06 this is a family friendly channel 20:06 dont go talking about peoples bogons... so crude 20:06 just for that i will never compliment your bogons k2 20:07 :D 20:08 spiked barding! now if there was only some way to stop peg from immediately becoming a statue 20:08 224.0.0.1/4 20:09 ^^bogon 20:09 huh 20:10 what is the origin of that term in networking world 20:10 hah a /4 20:10 i figured in nethack it was short for 'bogus monsters' but is it actually derived from that networking usage? 20:10 dont you mean 224.0.0.0/4 20:10 this is blowing my mind 20:10 bogus networks. Stuff that IANA says shouldn't route 20:10 Multicast noise 20:10 where's the second 'o' come from? 20:11 because "bogons" sounds more technical. 20:11 and it's a shout out to Hitchhikers Guide 20:11 Vogons 20:11 oh vogons? 20:11 huh 20:12 ya, that 20:12 bogon is network jargon 20:12 not related to Vogon 20:12 but bouquet_ just said it was related to vogons 20:12 surfer etymology, from bogos 20:13 bogosity/bogus 20:13 -> bogon 20:13 unknown origin for the term, but the interbutt sez "Bogons are actually the “most unpleasant address space in the Internet Routing galaxy”." 20:13 I remember the term from the mid-80s 20:13 with a mention of Vogons 20:14 I always asumed the person who wrote the RFC was a HGTG fan. 20:14 so is the nethack usage actually a hat-tip to the networking term rather than being short for 'BOGus mONsters'? 20:14 no 20:14 https://www.manrs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Picture1-768x184.png 20:14 I'm not the foremost authority but despite HGttG coming out around/a little before the time I heard the term used, I think it was widely believed that bogons were from bogus, not Vogons 20:15 and remember that information on the internet is usually garbage 20:15 the way i understood it was this: there was hack, and then when multiple people starting submitting patches via BBS/email, it was renamed 'nethack' because of the network of people working on it 20:15 (pay no attention to this chat being on the internet please) 20:15 k2 I don't mean the name 'nethack' itself, i mean the use of 'bogons' to refer to bogus monsters 20:16 oh 20:16 e.g. bogon_codes, MD_PAD_BOGONS, bogon_is_pname 20:16 i dunno 20:16 it'd be cool if it were 20:16 i assumed it was short for bogus mons, since I had never heard the term before 20:17 i'm bogonning to think no one can know what it means 20:17 apropros of, it was a crime when they cancelled the recent Hitchhiker's Guide tv show after two seasons 20:17 we just have to use it as best we can guess 20:18 what does a jabberwock look like 20:18 no 20:18 a jabberwock 20:18 I picture the one in the recent Alice In Wonderland movie. 20:18 too drugged 20:18 the DIRK GENTLY'S tv series 20:18 kind of like a slithery dragon 20:18 Frodo's best role 20:18 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Jabberwocky.jpg/1200px-Jabberwocky.jpg 20:19 they made a TV series about DIRK GENTLY's HOLISTIC DETECTIVE AGENCY!?! 20:19 two seasons of amazingness starring frodo 20:19 i liked that show 20:19 pretty good 20:19 the dirk gently one 20:19 it does not follow the plot of the book or its sequel but it gets all the feels right 20:19 i didn't know there was a recent hitchhiker's guide show 20:19 loosest good adaptation i've ever seen 20:20 <- there wasn't, I was stupid. dirk gently was recent 20:20 there was a bbc series for HGTTG back in the 80s. It needed editing. 20:23 i really don't think it is possible to make a good traditional tv show out of the book -- should probably be a sketch show :-) 20:23 I got 8 eucalyptus leaves from one tree 20:23 like 5 robot chicken episodes except all hitchhiker chapters/vignets 20:23 gonna die 20:24 vignettes, argh 20:24 don't die 20:25 Well, I can't ride pegasus, but I can finally do something about all those mean shopkeepers who don't like me being invisible 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7566 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7252 points, T:7571, killed by a leocrotta 20:27 blah 20:27 and a homuculus putting me to sleep at same time 20:28 little bastards 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:57059 20:29 HEY NOW 20:29 I didn't lay a hand on him 20:30 the oracle is a bee-youteeful lady 20:31 k2 I was recently reading that book elenmirie recommended a while ago 20:32 godel, escher, bach 20:32 and it has a part where they print translations of jabberwocky in various languages side-by-side, pretty interesting 20:33 since it has all those made-up words, it's interested how the translators tried to convey similar a meaning/feel in different ways 20:33 just reminded of that by your link to the jabberwock illustration 20:34 nice 20:35 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: and the mome raths outgrabe] 20:48 https://termbin.com/n9n8g 20:48 my current inventory -- do you think I should do some magic lamp rubbing or is there no urgent need for it? 20:49 where are you? 20:49 Your damage is a little low but you should be able to do the castle and get the wand without burning a lamp if you want 20:50 hmm 20:50 right now I'm on dlvl 6, since that's where my stuff is at. but the deepest I've gotten is down to medusa's level, but I dipped out and went back to plan first 20:50 since Medusa is no joke... I think I've only beaten her once before in evilhack 20:50 Do you have any enchant weapon? Or something good to dual wield? 20:50 Easy mode kill Medusa in evilhack: YDSM 20:51 I do have a couple enchant weapon 20:51 If you want to be cautious you could altar-camp for a good weapon to dual wield 20:51 If you have sleep/death wands, go kill your quest nemesis and dual wield with the tsurugi 20:51 i should probably start training twoweapon 20:51 isn't the tsurugi 2handed? I'm human 20:51 Oh damn 20:52 my bad :-) got giant sammy on the brain 20:52 Well, the quest levels are filled with katanas 20:52 plus a huge stack of +7 blessed shuriken 20:52 once you get through with them 20:52 I guess i'll start twoweaponing with a little dagger or something so I can train it 20:52 which are amazing 20:52 Yeah, mithril elven dagger is a good choice for the few hits you need for basic twoweapon 20:53 if you wanted to burn a spare wish I'd go for blessed greased +3 dragonhide speed boots 20:54 that will give you a huge survivability boost with speed + ac 20:55 you are missing free action, of course - a shield of mobility would be an excellent replacement for your current shield...but dual wielding with the ring is even better 20:55 if you don't have free action, do you have a wand of poly and a pile of rings? 20:56 yeah I'd like to get free action but wishing for it feels like a bit of a waste... I do have a wand of polymorph and a few rings, but not a boatload I don't think 20:56 another choice with so many magic lamps is, if you have a lot of fodder and no poly wand, a nice juice poly wand 20:56 like three stacks of 5-10 rings and a wand of poly should give you free action pretty darn quick 20:59 in any case, the sammy quest will give you a lot of poly fodder and a lot of initial offhand weapon choices 21:00 even if you don't want to kill the quest nemesis yet you can do everything but 21:00 that's a good point, maybe I should check out the loot in the quest before polymorphing stuff 21:00 AND, almost no chance of gelatinous cubes there 21:00 although you might take a potion of paralysis to the face a few times 21:00 I have a pet jabberwock who's been pretty good at cleaning up guys who paralyze/sleep me (so far, at least.. knock on wood) 21:01 even better! do the quest down to the final level and then reevalauate -- and train twohanded to a least basic 21:01 that's my take 21:02 bleh there is a gelcube on the level with the quest portal though, i've been playing tag with him every time I go on the level. it's gonna be annoying to find the portal with him chasing me 21:03 i do have a scroll of genocide, so I could geno gelcubes if it comes to that 21:03 no, pet jaberwock should kill him for you -- dance with him and your pet without engaging yourself 21:04 make sure you have warning so you always know exactly where he is -- i see you have it on 21:11 for some reason the jabberwock hasn't been attacking the gelcube 21:12 hmm 21:12 i tried getting them lined up but they never engaged with each other. maybe they're old friends and I'm making it awkward 21:12 stethoscope, check the level 21:12 jabberwocks SHOULD outlevel gelcubes I thiunk 21:12 thunk think thank 21:13 like 15 to 6 21:13 the jabberwock is level 22 21:13 @e?gelatinous cube 21:13 gelatinous cube (b) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison acid petrification | Confers: fire cold sleep shock | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 2d4 touch paralyze, 1d4 engulf wrap, 1d4 passive paralyze | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, mindless, vegan 21:13 yeah, that is very weird then, i have no explanation, gotta ask K2 21:14 idk why they weren't fighting, weird. maybe I just wasn't patient enough 21:15 can you lock it in a room or block it off with boulders? Or just wand it to death? 21:15 junk mm/striking wands will work just fine 21:15 in fact, it resists all the other attack wands 21:15 I don't have many wands, I'm not sure if it would work. anyway I snuck past it and got into the quest, so I don't have to worry about it right this minute :) 21:16 omigod you are carrying a lot of stuff :-) shove it all in the chest 21:16 lol yeah i have a bad habit of carrying arrows from arrow traps thinking 'i'll use these' 21:17 and then i practically never do 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:22374 21:18 if you are like me, you will cancel, stack, bless, and enchant those shuriken before using them to maximum their survivability 21:18 with materials i use like a small stack of plastic shuriken or whatever to level skill 21:18 lol I do exactly the same thing 21:18 use some tiny stack of a weird material until it's gone 21:18 then switch to the big enchanted stack 21:18 +7 shuriken with a ring of increase damage are so good 21:21 regex to the rescue 21:23 which types of engulfing monsters does a wand of digging not work on? 21:23 airy watery stuff 21:23 makes sense 21:23 i always forget that 21:25 sweet, i got a magic whistle 21:30 careful 21:30 get out your wands of sleep 21:30 just in case :-) 21:30 did you find anything good in the armor room? 21:31 yeah, i got some speed boots to replace the ones I found in an armory that rotted off my feet 21:31 nice! 21:32 and the magic whistle, which is great since I have a polytrap on another level that I can whistle pets into. I think I will take a break for now before I make a mistake :P 21:32 smart 21:32 smarter than me 21:40 hehehe, the kraken is crushed underneath the drawbridge 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:24566 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:58107 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:58131 22:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 100 points, T:153, killed by an electric shock 22:25 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a bone two-handed sword entrusted to him by Kos, on T:27468 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 747 points, T:1814, killed by a giant ant 22:46 @e?giant ant 22:46 giant ant (a) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 1d4 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, passes-bars 23:14 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:30840 23:21 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1564 23:30 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had an axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:2203 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2875 points, T:4410, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 23:48 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack