00:11 well, I managed to get her to drain her polywand at me. Turned me into a mastodon! 00:16 YANI: if polymorphed into a mastodon or mammoth one should be able to play the passtune using their trunk. 00:20 It worked! I got all my loot back! 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:46959 00:22 omg, I killed medusa and prompty stepped on a poly trap. 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:419 00:58 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 02:02 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1059 points, T:2274, killed by a gnome lord 02:59 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:35 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:09 oof bouquet_ 04:10 yeah, if sokoban doesn't give you an MR amulet then giant samurai is pretty tough 04:19 just did a test with an empty junk wand: turns to dust if you write with it 04:19 ANNOYING 04:20 I have a bunch of unknown wands and I know 1 of them is an empty poly wand that I want to recharge 04:21 but now I can't engrave test any of them 04:23 I am going to have to (urgh) take my scrolls to a shop to see which ones are a candidate for magic detection 04:24 gonna have to find the base price in the source code I guess... 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una), 50254 points, T:31529, suffocated by a water elemental 05:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Graznop's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:57875 06:36 backscroll: the wand wresting change is one of my least favorite things about evilhack 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire royal, on T:16252 06:37 not even talking about wishing... just for regular wands. It forces you to formally id if you ever want to charge it 06:38 i think you should get ONE "Nothing happens." message, and then after that it goes to attempt the wrest 06:40 because most of the time (aside from the WoW which almost everyone identifies) you aren't TRYING to wrest, but the wand turns to dust 06:41 that's frun unh i think? 06:41 from* 06:42 i mean, forget about the fact that 80% of the time you get 1 less wish in evilhack, it just sucks for wands you might want to charge and aren't trying to wrest 06:46 or at least id the wand if it does wrest to dust - just to add to the pain ('That must have been a wand of foo') 06:49 it's unbalanced imo. You aren't going to waste id scrolls figuring out the charges on every wand so you just lose them 06:49 poorly thought out, and I'm sure it all revolved around the wishing wand 06:51 maybe change to a 1 in 5 wresting chance then? 06:51 i mean... that's the reason to ID the wishing wand in vanilla on the OFF CHANCE that if it's empty you might accidentally wrest it and lose 4 wishes 06:53 i dunno.... just seems really dumb arbitrary bs (sorry bhaak if it's your brainchild. i hate it) 06:53 * rebatela ends rant 06:54 you don't lose any wishes. you can't recharge wands of wishing anyway 06:54 talking about non-wishing wands 06:55 let's pretend wishing wands don't exist for this discussion 06:55 when you zap a wand and it's empty it disappears when you could have charged it had you known. it sucks. 06:56 and in evil/vanilla you can most certainly charge wishing wands (again. it's not what i'm takling about, but you're proving my point that this change is because of the wishing wand yet really effects all the others) 06:57 i'm fine with getting one less wish (not really) 06:58 wands are never generated with 0 charges (in vanilla at least) 06:58 what do yo mean you don't lose wishes, btw? In vanilla you get an extra wish with the wrest. And you used to in evil. Now it's only 20% chance. You lose that wish. Not what i'm talking about, but yeah you lose a wish 06:58 so you certainly don't need to id all wands. in unnethack, the wand id is improved, there are more unique messages 06:59 i know. evilhack cherry picks one aspect of it from unh. that's what i don't like 06:59 I can't speak for the statistics in evilhack but when the change was introduced in unnethack, it upped the average number of wishes you got from a WoW 06:59 yeah 07:00 I'm talking about say wand of polymorph... I'm polypiling. wand isn't id'd. I'd like to charge it,but the way i find out it's empty is it turns to dust 07:00 can't charge. it's gone 07:00 it's still lower than vanilla of course, but you can't convince me that the number of wishes in vanilla isn't too much 07:00 or wand of create monster 07:00 forget about wishing 07:01 well, you already know that there are at least 4 or 11 charges in those wands. if they were newly generated and not coming from bones or used by monsters 07:01 if you got one "nothing happens" message, then you'd know it was empty and you can try again to wrest a final charge or charge it. That's how rebatelahack will be 07:02 you can play it safe or you can take risks. that adds more decisions to wand usage than in vanilla. 07:02 what? no i don't know that. and often wands do come from monsters 07:02 I've never even known that wands have 4 or 11 charges 07:03 I've never had to know that because you used to get a Nothing Happens message when it's empty not the wand disappearing as if you're trying to wrest a charge 07:03 that tells me you don't read wand spoilers and you haven't taken notes about your wand usages 07:03 there was no reason to. You don't lose the wand when it's empty in vanilla. 07:03 that's not true. there was a 121 chance that any empty wand would turn to dust 07:03 true 07:03 and i mentioned that 07:03 about the wand of wishing 07:04 that's true for every wand 07:04 and that indeed sucks because you lose 4 wishes 07:04 yes it's true for every wand i understand 07:05 IMO it feels like a change made thinking only about the WoW 07:05 and how the wresting is silly 07:05 it is 07:05 but in practice, it really sucks for all the other wands 07:06 you can recharge a wand at any time 07:06 you are mad that you lose some amount of certainty that you have in vanilla 07:06 i'm not mad 07:07 i mean... i'm crazy. that meaning of 'mad'. definitely not mad about a game though :) 07:07 you are trying to maximize the uses you get out of a wand. but that's different in evilhack and unnethack than in vanilla. there's more chance involved 07:07 no i'm not 07:08 i don't want the wand to be destroyed when i'm not TRYING to wrest it 07:08 i'm just unaware of the charges 07:08 so now you have to formally id every wand 07:08 or at least the important ones 07:08 I take the "wresting" as a speech of figure. you are not. for me, you just use it 07:09 and vanilla's behavior shows that it's just a figure of speech as there the wresting can happen as well accidentally 07:09 which I do anyway, but I don't always have oodles of identify on me 07:09 no, you have to formally id those wands that you don't want to lose accidentally. that will not be every type of wand 07:09 ^^ this is my main point. You don't get more id scrolls or something 07:10 you're right bhaak. I don't care about losing my light wand 07:10 comparing evilhack to vanilla, I have to be a lot more careful about zapping and engraving 07:10 just the ones i care about 07:10 or wand of diggings 07:11 i try to id wands as well, but they come after id'ing the stuff i don't know the indetity of 07:11 mobileuser: having the game track how often a wand is used (and you have seen it being) would be nice. doesn't some variant do that already? 07:12 hell, i play spellcaster all the time and try to learn the spell and avoid all of this 07:12 bhaak I don't think so! 07:12 I'm pretty sure I thought about it before. I might even have some POC lying around 07:12 losing an item when you aren't trying to "wrest" a finaly charge is BS 07:12 or makes for different game play 07:12 it's clearly designed only thinking about the WoW 07:13 and how it's dumb that you just get this guaranteed rest holding down the z key 07:13 and you're 100% right about that . good change 07:13 for the other wands it blows 07:15 because 99% of the time you don't even know the wand is empty. I think one message "Nothing happens" . "The wand glows" somethig like that as a warning and then it explodes after that or whatever would be good 07:15 I will have to read-test to discover magic detection, one of the other scrolls will be genocide 07:15 sucks that I have to bless them all :-) 07:15 thanks krm26 07:15 blessed genocide is pretty useless 07:15 yeah i always unbless them 07:16 rebatela I agree with the change 07:16 the wand wresting??!?!? 07:16 oh the price 07:16 yeah me too 07:16 so if I hit genocide first, which class to choose 07:16 maybe just L and waste that scroll :-) 07:17 I need blessed magic detection so I can found out which is the 0 charges poly wand from bones... 07:18 just to clarify. You like the wand wresting change? or the magic detection not having a unique price ? 07:18 magic detection not having a unique price 07:18 ok :) 07:18 the wand wresting I just accept as something I need to work around 07:19 yeah. i noticed that when he first did it and was just waiting for it to change. at least i know 07:19 but it sucks extra that it also applies to engrave testing 07:19 i don't mind the one less wish 07:19 it's the other bs 07:19 new topic: engrave testing 07:19 I mean, why not just keep "too worn out to write with" 07:20 instead it turns to dust 07:21 but we wouldn't have the funny message about engraving with dust! lol 07:21 I certainly thought also about other wands. the wresting mechanism is a stupid thing there, too. 07:21 =D 07:21 interesting how a wand can be too worn out to engrave with 07:21 technically it should just be a "stick" :D 07:21 if it does not have charges 07:21 in unnethack, blessed charging reveals the charges 07:22 nice feature! 07:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4913 07:27 bhaak: that's awesome! 07:29 i'm going to play unh when i splat this game 07:30 is there anything major i need to know ? Can i play a human neutral monk and figure it out ? What are the huge changes? 07:30 (besides wand wresting obv) 07:30 uncharged wand acting like a stick (and doing nothing) when engraving would make engrave IDing harder, wand could be e.g. probing or an empty wand of poly 07:31 rebatela: if you can survive evilhack, you are probably more than well prepared for unnethack. 07:32 heh. i don't usually survive but ok 07:32 in the past, I positioned unnethack as in the sweet spot between vanilla, sporkhack, and slashem. but now with the latter two dead and vanilla having gotten lots of features from unnethack as well ... it's not so clear anymore. 07:33 the dev version is also halfway to 3.6/3.7 07:33 i want to play all these games. yours is one of the oldest variants right? i mean slash obviously, but when there was that big gap between 3.43 and 3.6 thats when unnethack came out? 07:34 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:34 morning krm26. what are you thoughts on wand wresting? 07:34 lol 07:35 rebatela there are some important nerfs in unnethack 07:35 do tell plz 07:35 I'm trying to remember them :-) 07:35 paranoid water? 07:35 rebatela: the oldest variant still in development https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:VariantHistoryGraph.jpg 07:35 i don't mind either method (original, new 1 round) 07:35 one is, dragons are randomised 07:35 i guess, no strong wresting opinions 07:35 bhaak: whoa! awesome!! 07:36 my general though feeling is: every opportunity for a fun minigame should be taken 07:36 rebatela I seem to remember you can only wish for magical items with the castle wand 07:36 that chart is so cool! 07:36 * rebatela is a dork 07:37 mobileuser: oh that's right. lamps are for mundane stuff. i knew that 07:37 rebatela you have to rely much more on what you find in unnethack 07:37 right 07:37 oh ok! 07:37 if wresting took many rounds (not like a huge # tho), and had the chance for another use OR maybe another few effects not so desirable associated with each specific wand. i dunno 07:37 thanks though 07:37 that's basically all i know 07:38 slashem is older but was already dead when sporkhack came out. it's not that obvious from that graph but sporkhack started the first wave of variants in the 2000s 07:38 grunthack was just distributed as a patch, sporkhack was the first that had a public server. 07:38 krm26: my point was that (forget about the WoW for a minute... just talking about normal wands) I don't know that they're empty. I'm not trying to wrest a final wish, but i lose the wand and can't charge it (unless I had formally id'd and knew it was empty) 07:38 every other variant that got at least some traction afterwards had a public server 07:39 that was when public servers were mostly single variant :-) NAO had sporkhack for a while though 07:40 rebatela: isn't that a fair penalty for not having the wand fully id'd? 07:40 krm26: so maybe you should get one warning "Nothing happens." and then the NEXT time you are tying to wrest 07:41 krm26: no i think it's a horrible penalty 07:41 lol 07:41 ah, you mean for the immediate 1-round wresting currently in use 07:41 the change happened and we didn't suddenly get more id scrolls 07:41 yeah 07:41 so you'd like a two-round process -- you shake the wand, wrest 07:41 well it's about intent for me 07:42 i'm usually not trying to get a final zap out of the wand. i just don't know it's empty 07:42 or increased wrest chance for every attempt 07:42 i think that cosmetically it feels like wresting is really pushing the wand, shaking it around, yelling at it, so i kind of agree it shouldn't just happen the first time you touch it when it has no charges 07:42 \o/ 07:42 i think a two attempt process would be fitting -- so i guess i agree with you rebatela 07:42 easybabyhack 07:43 heh 07:43 :D 07:43 good morning ;-) 07:43 * K2 waves 07:43 i DO think the wresting and guaranteed final wish in vanilla is silly and i'm sure that's what prompted bhaak to change it in the first place 07:43 morning :) 07:43 easybabybhaak 07:43 i don't know if it is silly, it is a design choice 07:43 i mean, if the number of wishes is too high there are other ways of dealing with it than wresting 07:43 anyway, it's not what i'm talking about. Talking about say create monster wand 07:43 but vanilla wresting was a BORING TIME SINK 07:44 the way you find out it's empty (other than formally id'ing) is it disappears 07:44 and that sucks 07:44 would you say it makes the game... harder? 07:44 :D 07:44 i suppose 07:44 \o/ 07:44 the final wrest of create monster saying "a tiny insect oozes out of the end of the wand" and giving you a grid bug.... 07:45 here is my opinion: wresting one warning round, 1 wrest, AND the wrested charge is unique and different for each wand with lesser or goofy effects 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:17191 07:45 i mean, i have games with hardly any id scrolls 07:45 including the wrested wish, which should be a djinni lamp wish with a higher probability chance of no wish from it 07:46 unfriendly djinn that gets to use the wish! 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17242 07:46 ^^ that happens 07:46 wrested create monster could be a bunch of roaches or an acid blob or something, wrested fire/cold could be an unpeaced sphere 07:46 rebatela, I have had games in TNNT where i had to wish for enchant armor :P 07:47 gogo tinklebear who isn't here apparently 07:47 because none had shown up until (and after clearing) VotD 07:47 ok i wanna do a wresting patch now and i haven't even fixed up ogresmasher :-P 07:47 should have maxed luck and wished for marker/written it 07:47 yeah I guess 07:47 i love exotic bespoke behavior that doesn't effect game balance 07:47 rebatela: potion alchemy is different 07:48 oh that's right. colors? 07:48 wrest a wand of opening and #tip all your bags 07:48 ^ important question, would your fedora be tipped? 07:49 *tips fedora* m'lady... hm, why are succubi ignoring me? 07:49 excellent suggestion but i'd say not in this case, the bags are not actually tipping, just being suddenly opened. you tip a hit but you don't open it 07:49 rebatela: yes 07:50 hit/hat 07:50 so that could be pretty crazy depending on rng i suppose 07:50 if common potions end up being not only certain potions but certain colors 07:50 if youw ould want to be really mean enemies could use /oOpening to tip your stuff 07:51 that would be quite evil 07:51 wand of opening as an offensive dump-bags weapon would be EVVVVIL indeed 07:51 mr would have to stop that or we would all go insane 07:51 "The goblin zaps a wad of opeing at you! Your bag of holding opens and spills [stuff]!" 07:52 since everyone prioritizes mr over everything tho i think that would be a fine addition 07:52 haha, that would be pretty funny if you had a bag of tricks :P 07:52 oh i have a game going in unh 07:52 spawning enemies around you 07:52 oh yeah, all charges at once from the bag 07:52 6.0.3? 07:52 is that current? 07:52 oh i see why i quit (flipped soko) 07:53 next 07:53 oh, you are a soko cheat sheater? 07:53 heh. until i memorize it 07:53 rebatela in practise the chances of colours being useful are pretty slim, better to assume you can ignore alchemy 07:54 cool idea tho 07:54 rebatela: no luck penalties in Sokoban. also only 3 levels 07:54 oh ok 07:54 * rebatela goes back to game 07:54 yeah I forgot that in my game :-) 07:54 rebatela: although +1 Luck if you solves it without breaking conduct :-) 07:55 i have a magic lamp but i can't wish for magic stuff ugh 07:55 oh i have 2 markers tho 07:55 i have no idea when i started this game maybe june 07:56 6.0.3 is current 07:56 need to fix my .rc file 07:56 ok cool! 07:56 tx 07:57 can i wish for a t-shirt? is that a bad wish? 07:58 speed boots i guess. or are they magic? i suppose they are :( 07:59 in the wiki I recall there was a list of non-magic wishes 08:00 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 08:01 a shield of reflection is not magical in unnethack 08:01 K2 m - an uncursed magical trident named Angelslayer 08:01 after blessed magic detection 08:01 are speed boots magical? 08:01 maybe they are just running sneakers 08:02 K2 why not "m - the uncursed Angelslayer" 08:02 rebatela: no, they're magical 08:03 you dont get that format until you have +- level id, right? 08:03 rebatela https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wish#UnNetHack 08:03 huh 08:04 oh thanks! wished for a shirt. but good to know 08:09 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 632 points, T:982, killed by a little dart 08:53 suddenly I wonder: why "little" dart 08:54 it feels weird as a lawful character hanging around my altar hiding behind a boulder waiting to murder-hobo anything that walks by for my gruesome altar sacrificess 08:55 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56 what are you scumming for K2? 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1314 points, T:2108, zombified by an elf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:00 stats 09:01 zombiehack 09:02 i've startscummed 6521 in evil lol 09:02 6521 times* 09:04 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 09:04 mainly for the same reason (stats) because playing giant since no robe obviously wisdom is a thing 09:05 also i like sleep spell, although giants can't even cast since now that it's level 2 and no robe 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39472 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 910 points, T:2275, killed by a little dog 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:43163 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43174 09:12 no way i'm getting to keep that :-/ 09:33 the bell? 09:34 the tsurigi -- i've been a very very slightly bad boy and have very very bad rng 09:36 just avoid the ql til you can kill them 09:36 talk to him later... 09:38 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 986 points, T:2492, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hill orc 09:43 !lastgame 09:43 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1639663306.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1639665319.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1639281451.evil.html 09:43 the worst 3 wands you can find early game 09:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:40132 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:45911 09:48 f u amaterasu 09:50 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 10:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 766 points, T:2068, killed by Mr. Ossipewsk; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 10:15 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:35 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: reboot] 10:38 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 10:59 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #evilhack 11:17 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 11:26 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest9436 11:26 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of magic resistance", on T:47957 11:29 enough of the MR'less experience. Time to get on with it. 11:29 -!- Guest9436 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:32 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:33 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 11:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5296 points, T:2228, escaped 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 12:10 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest9222 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Gia Mal Neu), 1194 points, T:3079, killed by a small mimic 12:13 -!- Guest9222 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 12:38 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest9686 12:38 -!- Guest9686 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:38 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:42 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 12:42 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (strontium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:42 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 356 points, T:515, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:59 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19 hai 13:23 Idea: zapping a wand with zero charges either cancels it (charges: -1), or wrests it with the usual chances. 13:28 but... that means more work on my part 13:28 and then probably more work for qt to clean up the inevitable mistakes i'll make 13:29 we dont want to upset the shirt-maker... 13:29 lol 13:29 mobileuser: the idea is that instead of the wand disintegrating, it would become canceled? 13:29 yes, if there is no wrest 13:29 interesting 13:29 zap again: BOOM 13:30 or recharge if poosible 13:30 * possible 13:30 you can recharge a cancelled wand 13:30 that's the idea, yes :-) 13:30 but... but... 13:31 Idea: zapping a wand with zero charges either wrests it with the usual chances or deletes every wand of that type from the game 13:31 >:^) 13:31 So glad to have amateurhour back for the really epic ideas :-) 13:31 if (playername == mobileuser) ^ that 13:32 ; 13:32 :b 13:32 think about it it's actually a nicehack idea 13:32 you could tactically delete wands of light and get more epic wands 13:33 delete every wand except WoW 13:33 perfection 13:34 monsters making wishes everywhere in the dungeon 13:34 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 13:34 archons everywhere 13:34 everything has life saving 13:34 christmashack 13:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:11729 13:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42706 13:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42708 13:55 oh, nicehack is catching on as a term :O 13:55 * spicyCebolla greps 14:03 you might also be interested in the results of a case insensitive search for easybabyhack 14:04 sometimes: babyeasyhack 14:06 or 'easybabybhaak' 14:06 ^ personal fav 14:07 the thing in unnh where you don't have to specify #chat direction is chefs kiss 14:07 you're in a temple 14:07 you chat the priest 14:07 breaks my workflow :// 14:07 hah 14:09 qt i got one for ya! 14:10 a christmas present? 14:10 i discovered a minor whilst playing 14:10 uh 14:10 YES its a present 14:10 oh were you playing slex? 14:10 err no 14:10 yuk 14:10 lol 14:10 wrong variant 14:10 what word did you even drop? 14:11 bug? idea? 14:11 bug? 14:11 do this: put on dragon scale, one that has a secondary passive attack. then put on dragonbane. let a dragon attack you (baby dragon so you dont get engulfed) 14:11 tell me what you notice 14:14 not sure, what am i supposed to notice? 14:14 dragonbane's passive damage to dragons never kicks in 14:14 the dragon scale passive overrides the dragonbane passive? 14:14 yeah 14:14 passiveum() in mhitu.c 14:14 if (uarm) is before if (uarmg) 14:15 wondering if that should all be wrapped in a for () function 14:15 or is there a more betterly way 14:16 well, i think the problem is that it returns early as soon as one of the cases is hit 14:17 hrm 14:17 maybe try changing all the early returns that aren't 'the monster is dead, abandon ship' with break statements? 14:17 mmmk 14:17 i am busy at work so i can't try it myself right now but I think that might work 14:18 will try 14:18 oh wait, yoda just said 'do or do not, there is no try' 14:18 :( 14:20 https://0x0.st/-Co4.jpeg 14:20 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 :) 14:26 The baby blue dragon bites! The baby blue dragon claws you! The baby blue dragon flinches from the cold! Dragonbane sears the baby blue dragon's scaly hide! 14:27 \o/ 14:27 thanks for pointing out the obvious qt :P 14:29 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:30 im a pointer alright 14:51 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:57 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1165 points, T:2511, killed by a fire ant 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 14 points, T:19, killed by a falling rock 15:21 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 mithril large splint mail of drain resistance", on T:50231 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:50245 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:50253 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:50418 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:50432 15:59 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JDwAT 16:07 [EvilHack] k21971 385e0ba - Fix: Dragonbane passive damage to dragons not working if wearing dragon scales or scale mail. 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3114 points, T:2811, killed by a killer bee 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 161 points, T:672, killed by a jackal 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 539 points, T:1983, killed by a piranha 16:54 damn, my pet minotaur attacked scorpius 16:54 can't heal it 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:14183 16:54 why you say 'no balls' to it? 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14184 16:55 huh? 16:56 mobileuser: hey pet minotaur, I bet you cant beat up scorpius! minotaur: mobileuser: no balls hahah! minotau 16:57 omg dont you know what 'no balls' means? 16:57