00:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 284 points, T:864, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 00:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 787 points, T:1853, killed by a succubus of Loki 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire royal, on T:14502 00:19 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:43846 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 886 points, T:2491, killed by a piranha 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5092 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3260 points, T:5144, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 03:06 i could swear gray fungi corpses were intended to cause sickness 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1088 points, T:2830, zombified by a diseased elf corpse 03:17 they do (passive attack) 03:17 oh corpses 03:17 you can eat them and gain a bit of poison res 03:18 but its like eating a killer bee corpse 03:18 aaaaaaand gnite 03:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 07:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:31228 08:05 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:08 hi 08:08 Hello krm26, Welcome to #evilhack 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:48000 08:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31748 08:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31749 08:31 Hmm...kinda wanna give one of these guys a wand or something to make them a little more of a threat, but that also makes them a little more free loot :-P 08:49 Yay! Free loot! 08:59 Finally! An Archon dropped Sunsword. 08:59 Hmmm I hope I can offhand it 08:59 Crystal 09:01 Oh shit 09:01 all this trouble to tame a vampire mage and I forget about sunsword 09:01 oh well :-) 09:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (vampire mages), on T:31960 09:04 yes, it looks like crystal is fine in the offhand 09:04 shit another archon 09:05 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 09:07 double wielding silver lance and sunsword, epic! 09:11 lol third archon 09:12 a silver heavy mace named Demonbane 09:12 swimming in weapons suddenly 09:15 "Your silver heavy mace named Demonbane seems very unwieldy" 09:16 I HATE HATE HATE those weight rules 09:16 mobihack will scrap them 09:24 They're a good check on some strategies, but I think it is possible some item weights and class skill caps could be revisited for slightly better balancing 09:25 I think K2 needs something like that with artifact dual-wielding for sure 09:26 mobihack \o/ 09:29 Omigod the dwarven regicide posse on level 1 is loaded for bear 09:31 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 09:42 the what now 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:50527 09:43 testing my patch for revenge after you kill royalty 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:24038 09:44 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:45 ah and it's summoning bears to take revenge? 09:45 lol imagine if alhoons and mmfs were summoned 09:48 "loaded for bear" is a bear-free idiom 09:49 In this case, it was a gnoll hunter with a hunting quivering blob on a leash accompanied by a gnomish wizard and some gnome and dwarf footmen 09:50 I've never heard that expression before haha, I thought there was bugbears because of 'h' 09:50 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 09:50 I'm gonna start saying "loaded for bugbears" 09:52 man I wish there was a way to time the arrival of the posse to when you're already engaged with something serious :-) ah well 09:53 "nobody expects the spanish inquisition!" 09:54 I'm really disappointed that there aren't good ways to give a monster a title as opposed to a name 09:54 Was hoping to do something like "The royal huntsman hits you!" but only "Frank hits you!" is supported 09:55 Would be easy to do if English didn't have all these stupid mandatory articles 09:55 Maybe I can do it for the Japanese localization 09:56 what about Frank the royal huntsman hits you! 09:56 heh 09:56 could just be in their name 09:59 Then I have to generate decent names tho 10:00 add a title system then :P Asmodeus, Lord of Nessus, demands payment 10:01 Given how the game is structured that would be a bitch, you'd have to touch a lot of code to make titles work...bound to be lots of bugs 10:01 Not enthusiastic 10:01 bugs are exciting 10:01 Titles would also break saves 10:02 that's what editlevel is for so don't worry about breaking saves 10:02 The posse stuff I'm doing is a "light" patch that effects nothing 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a crested helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:51538 10:14 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:15 blessed +40 ring of protection helps with not being able to wear body armor 10:25 :) 10:25 for sure 10:25 i'm a big fan of swallowing rings when it's doable (but it's often not, and i often FORGET to ) 10:26 I almost never fiddle with that, I probably should 10:26 with protection it's almost not worth it especially if you've already have a bunch of divine protection 10:26 but i like doing it with increase damage 10:27 because it's a ring i never have the slot to wear, but if you can get a view of them to digest it's freaking awesome 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:37317 10:27 few* not view 10:28 I don't ever do it because of the odds but I guess I'd never wear them anyway so I guess I should 10:28 also i think you can eat the magical breathing amulet, but amulets are even harder to get to work. But with polypiling all the garbage ones it's definitely doable (that's another thing I never remember to do ) 10:29 yeah it's really only a thing i do when i have the eye and polymorph spell and am having a polypile type of game 10:29 i have the eye!! but i don't even have a towel or ring of levitation in this game.. it's crazy 10:30 i've been altar camping for levitation for a while now (no polymorph either ) 10:30 lmao why do u even need a towel just close ur eyes 10:30 lol 10:30 i have so many tools lined up for when i DO get polymorph. i'll have a towel or blindfold first zap 10:31 innate magical breathing is kind of fun, but you are right, you never get more than one or two bites of that apple 10:32 i think amulets have a 20% chance of crossing the blood-brain barrier... 10:33 but if you're polypiling for a long time it's not unheard to have a few of those to at least try it 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:52442 10:35 i assume you can eat the new guarding amulets too, but again with AC once you have a certain amount the odds go way down to avoid people easily having intrinsic +40 (it used to be much more doable in 3.43) 10:35 K2: Do you mind a pull request for something that hasn't been mulled over that much? Code should be good, but the posse probabilities and makeup are all "first blush" stuff. 10:35 or maybe even earlier versions.. they nerfed it drastically at some point 10:35 (extremely simple to modify tho) 10:39 blessed potion of restore ability only restored 1 attribute... 10:39 yeah go for it 10:39 you can always update the PR 10:39 I thought blessed restored all 10:39 ask qt :) 10:40 mobileuser it does 10:41 it restored my STR but not my DEX 10:42 oh wait, pebcak 10:42 :D 10:42 JUSTICE FOR MO- 10:42 oh 10:42 lol 10:43 I thought my DEX was higher, but I am "only" at 19 10:44 [EvilHack] krmaxson opened pull request #84: Vengeful posses sometimes spawn after a royal is killed. - https://git.io/JDC0K 10:47 push to production gogogogo 10:47 pretty sure this breaks saves 10:47 What did I do that breaks saves? 10:47 /* has been revived froom(xm the dead */ 10:48 I didn't touch any of the underlying data structures 10:48 The addition of the timer type I guess? 10:49 But saves would have to be reeeeally weird for that to screw them up 10:49 your PR shouldn't include those changes to the hints file or sysconf 10:49 I guess I should look at the save code 10:49 i was getting to that 10:49 OH jeez, my bad -- I knew about that but just forgot 10:49 and that typo in monst.h 10:49 amateurhour beat me to it 10:49 Sorry guys 10:50 krm26 its ok 10:50 no need to apologise it's fine 10:50 PR's are never perfect 10:50 qt force pushes stuff all the time hah 10:50 I'll close it and resubmit 10:50 you can just update the PR it's all good 10:51 NOSEE should probably be NO_SEE 10:51 also, it looks like your PR partially reverts https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a632f7b9b8577c5eaab2e974fe1ecf788a0f0696 (see hack.c) 10:53 and it fine if a PR breaks saves, just be aware if it's approved, it can't go into current version 10:53 pretty sure the changes to timer_type and timeout_types breaks saves 10:54 yolo 10:54 yay! decided to try the quest and found a towel!! FINALLY something useful from the monk quest 10:56 No change to timer_type, just an additional timeout_types, which you are right will brek saves if timeout_types is currently saved in a 3 bit field? 10:57 and a blindfold 10:57 of course 10:57 asmo posse 10:57 hah 10:58 weredemon 10:58 neat 10:58 -- back later to fix this 10:59 one last nitpick note - don't use // for comments, use /* */ 11:00 yes we must remain backwards compatible with compilers from the 70s 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:53190 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:28087 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28090 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:53342 11:12 oh man if this 600zkm spellbook is polymorph that would be awesome 11:27 rebatela: do you weight ID spellbooks? 11:27 i only recently learned that trick! 11:27 but no usually just price id 11:28 (only because like i said i just learned about it and never remember) 11:28 i don't have weights turned on. feels cluttery 11:28 speaking of which, thank you again for your curses settings lol. I love the no borders 11:28 btw, agree with what you were saying earlier - especially about the vanilla amnesia nerf being bad 11:29 yeah i mean it's great for a lot of people 11:29 oh does evilhack have weights of objects 11:29 i was talking all sorts of drunken nonsense yesterday though and i apologize to everyone 11:29 and higher level spellbooks have more pages :-) 11:29 that's an easybabyhack change for real don't even need to cart books to the shop to id their level wtf 11:30 especially k2 (who i was whining to) and krm26 who i was unfairly complaining about. you guys are all awesome 11:31 yeah i'm surprised that hasn't been nerfed honestly. it's a huge gift to know the level by weight (like if you don't have a shop to priceid) 11:32 knowing the level (for me) helps save ID scrolls because they become immediate polyfodder if it's not what i'm looking for and i don't waste a readcount on the book 11:32 i'd also like to see spellbook polymorph only result in books of the same or lower weight 11:33 would make lower level easier to get 11:33 i can't wait to find polymorph in this game. i reaaaaly hope that's what this lvl 6 book is 11:34 good luck! 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:37349 11:39 create familiar booo 11:42 EPI: remove identify scrolls and the spell from the game 11:42 isn't that what slex does? 11:42 or it like fails or something? 11:43 aosdict got rid of the spell i believe 11:43 the thing i love about finding the spell (especially early game) is that i can blank all those scrolls 11:43 xnh has really nice scroll of id though 11:43 lately i've been finding it after already identifying literally everything else and wasting all the paper 11:43 oh that's right 11:44 yeah it's fair 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a white unicorn), on T:3897 11:44 same with mapping. i just love being able to blank them 11:44 those scrolls eventually become charging/genocide/ ea etc. 11:45 the game would play a lot differently and be a lot harder without easy id 11:45 yeah i was joking yesterday about price id and maybe everything should have a random price every game 11:46 PLEASE DON'T DO THIS 11:46 slex just makes all potions cost 300 etc 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1787 points, T:4156, killed by a dagger 12:05 I do kinda like the idea that an item will have a +/- to its base price every game 12:07 All you'd need is a 50-100z fudge added to each item to make it interesting but still maintain good stuff being expensive 12:15 evil does throw it off with the racial shopkeepers 12:16 if it's an elf or a giant and my cha isn't 8-11 my head explodes 12:21 Huh, "I feel guilty" when reading cursed scroll of genocide. Seems an odd thing to get an alignment hit for 12:24 probably just because regular genocide does that 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:39307 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39309 12:42 from level 15 to level 8 in a few rounds, and the vampire mage isn't dead yet. And now i have no regen. 12:48 !whereis Graznop 12:48 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] Graznop [evil]: (Pri Gia Fem Neu) T:34232 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 12:48 Those things are so scary 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:39703 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:39899 13:05 yeah they suck (unless tame!) 13:05 they make great pets 13:05 I kinda think spellbook variable weight is a good idea, but should be based on spell SCHOOL, with each school having a randomized weight each game; i.e. this game divination is 40, enchantment is 45, etc. 13:05 So it would be advantageous once you figured out one spell in the school for ID 13:05 But wouldn't give you the critical spell level info for blind reading 13:06 To me, that is a bit more of an evil incorporation of variable spellbook weight 13:06 Because you are right, currently spellbook weight is a huge gift 13:08 yes, weights by school would work 13:09 Alternately, even weirder, spellbook weights could be determined by the average marker charges their spell takes to write 13:09 even WEIRDER, each book could have a randomized weight based on a roll for the marker use 13:10 that would be a serious code change for very little benefit :-) 13:10 aren't average marker charges == level? 13:11 Is that all it is? I confess I don't know, I just always assumed that writing charging was irrationally expensive, etc. 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a mithril spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:25112 13:12 different for scrolls - charging is cheap to write, compared to genocide 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31087 13:22 yeah with books the ink just goes by levels (i think) 13:26 dammit got the castle with al the lava and i don't have levitation 13:26 back to altar camping i guess... 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:41202 13:32 rebatela, lots of backscroll, but.... blessed scroll of magic detection 13:32 am I the only one to really use those? 13:33 for levitating across lava? 13:33 to immediately know all those spellbooks, rings, amulets... 13:33 oh 13:33 i use them too. much better than identify! 13:33 yeah i don't use those scrolls. i probably should 13:34 too new 13:34 no messing with weights and prices :-) 13:35 rebatela monk can't use white dragon scales of course... 13:35 have been using those when I didn't have levi or flying 13:36 i badly need some form of polymorph.. i have a few of the potions i suppose i could stick a ring in, but they are also smoky in this game 13:36 i have waterwalking so medusa was no prob but of course i get the lava castle 13:36 wait wait what, blessed magic detection identifies items? 13:36 wands of cold 13:37 wands of cold get rid of lava? 13:37 TIL 13:37 krm26 yes, just not the charges 13:37 oh my GOD 13:37 yup 13:37 WHY did I encourage K2 to change its price :-) 13:37 hahaha! 13:37 yeah they're way too expensive now. way to go! ;) 13:38 given what they can do, price is right 13:38 (i meant for unique id) 13:38 don't care about actual costs 13:38 oh i know 13:38 does getting a boulder hit with striking by a monster give luck penalty in vanilla? 13:38 it was an easy id until you noticed 13:38 K2, is there some cunning git-fu for removing sysconf and the hints file from my branch, or do I just have to replace them from master? 13:38 cbus same rules as vanilla 13:39 easiest is prob just to replace from master 13:39 :-( figures 13:39 and what is the situation there? :) 13:39 fyi i'm not the one to ask for advanced git-fu stuff 13:39 oh sorry cbus you were asking about vanilla 13:39 yeah :D 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 385 points, T:2861, killed by a sewer rat 13:40 I would have to look it up on the wiki :b 13:40 oh found it 13:40 Drop a wand of striking so that a monster picks it up, and position yourself between that monster and the boulder you want destroyed, in hopes that the monster will destroy the boulder for you (no Luck penalty). 13:40 I suspect "no" 13:40 ah 13:41 confirmed 13:41 what that means for my game is "no need to hide my uncursed luckstone" :P 13:41 krm26 also, you dont want to put your rc cfg stuff in the sysconf file 13:41 in your home directory create a file called .evilhackrc 13:41 Yeah, I was just being kazy 13:44 I'm really confused by the changes to monster_nearby, I don't have any memory of making them or why I would 13:47 i still don't have a luckstone. couldn't find it in the mines 13:48 gonna poly rocks too when i can... 13:50 i guess i can do ice queen since i can't do castle/valley (although i still have a bad taste in my mouth about last goaround) 13:50 K2 -- was the additional timeout_types enum entry what you were talking about when you mentioned breaking saves? 13:52 oh wait. i don't have acid resistance. definitely no kathryn then 13:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (vampire mages), on T:35316 13:54 yeah 13:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 181528 points, T:35350, killed by a vampire king 13:55 glad that's over 13:55 ooof Graznop :/ 13:55 :-( in honor of Anne Rice 13:56 You see here a pair of dragonhide gloves named Dragonbane. 13:56 ^ just laying around on dlvl 1 13:57 DANGER 13:57 it's a trap 13:57 * K2 changes his name to Will Robinson 13:57 actualy, i was wondering where i put those, thx 13:58 finder keepers 13:59 [EvilHack] krmaxson opened pull request #85: Vengeful posses sometimes spawn after a royal is killed. - https://git.io/JDCp4 13:59 ooookay, trying pull request again 13:59 sorry about that 14:00 no apologies necessary 14:00 however, as punishment, you must.... wash mobileuser's dishes! 14:00 I can't see why it would break saves but would love to know 14:00 (i like washing dishes) 14:01 aosdict or qt can explain it more betterly 14:01 i just look at it and my inner voice says 'that breaks saves' 14:02 and if i'm wrong thats ok because thinking the other way around is bad 14:03 it only touches any data structures by expanding that enum, and if that enum *was* squeezed into a 3 bit field it would be an issue, but for most applications things like that stopped being an issue 20 years ago :-) 14:03 one thing I do if i'm going to make a change that could potentially break saves - start a game on unmodified code, save it, move save file elsewhere so it's not overwritten. make changes, compile, copy save file back over and see what happens 14:03 there is a lot of legacy stuff in the code though, like the use of __near 14:09 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:11 the only save questionable thing in the PR is the union any augmentation 14:13 idk what exactly that would do, but what it seems like is it would force the size of union any to 8 bytes minimum (on systems where int/unsigned is 4 bytes), whereas right now everything else can fit into 4 bytes. so if any union any's are saved, that could break saves. 14:13 The union can fit it, it has a long in it 14:14 You are certainly right if the union was just 4 bytes long but I thought I verified it was 8 bytes 14:14 (i did that because of how the timer code was setup to use any for data passing, and i was only interested in two values as opposed to an entire mons struct) 14:14 Lemme look at it one more time 14:16 gah you are probably right, i hate being drugged all the time 14:18 my brain was just making longs doubles I guess 14:18 thx aosdict 14:19 my code will actually work fine with 2 shorts, I can just make it shortpair instead 14:21 I'm not actually sure union any gets saved anywhere? 14:21 It must, since timers are preserved 14:21 ah 14:21 so you whipped me good 14:23 my take is that the only safe way to do it is consider it savebreaking, rather than fix the data types so that it maybe potentially doesn't break saves depending on how many bytes are in an int type on a given platform 14:25 right, but the use of unsigned shorts and longs is ironclad, there isn't a platform where a long isn't at least twice as many bytes as a short 14:25 spec is 2 bytes for short, 4 bytes for int/long 14:25 and when i've drunk too much 8 bytes for long instead of just 8 bytes for double :-) 14:28 No. A short is _at least_ 2 bytes, a long is _at least_ 4 bytes, a long must be _at least_ as long as a short. 14:28 I think the spec is a bit more ambiguous than that, I think it's 'at least two bytes' for short for example 14:28 There is no guarantee that a long will fit two shorts. 14:28 ah Pinkbeast said it better 14:28 ...has there ever been a platform with a 4 byte short and a 4 byte long? 14:29 (just curious) 14:29 No idea, but "never mind the spec, just work with the platforms that exist" is how you write bugs. 14:29 I don't know because I don't have to know because I assume the compiler writer might be trying to trick me and so a short and a long might both be 5 bytes or something. 14:30 deprecate support for all platforms that aren't precisely what hardfought is running on imo :^) 14:30 Ok, I'll throw it out and doing something else 14:30 you can pry my 2 xnethack freebsd enthusiasts from my cold dead hands 14:30 "spec is 2 bytes for short, 4 bytes for int/long" also int is at least 2 bytes 14:36 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36 it has to run on my Atari ST 14:40 oh wow, Tiamat summoned Juiblex 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32760 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, on T:32760 14:41 no scales :-( 14:41 SCAMMED AGAIN 14:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:49 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:55 !whereis K2 14:55 VaderFLAG: K2 is not playing. 14:55 Ah I see a tactical retreat to prevent Dragonbane karma from finding you 15:03 ok, with those wintype reversions, I'm done pending further commentary -- K2, hope the pull looks a tiny bit better now 15:37 Damn, thought I might go look at an old bug since it is a good way to get more familiar with the codebase, but there are 0 open issues :-) 15:39 bug free game confirmed?? 15:40 \o/ 15:40 evilhack tracks its issues differently to be fair 15:40 might be worth looking at the etherpad 15:40 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack 15:54 VS level found. prep time... 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:3732 15:56 yay ten times better than the last game already 16:00 yay 16:00 my current game is going alright, found dragonbane on dlvl 1 16:01 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:01 BUT I corroded away my main weapon fighting black puddings 16:01 had a 'i'm playing tnnt/vanilla' moment 16:01 > finds the best item in the whole game 16:01 it's going alright I guess 16:01 :P 16:02 i'm not going to clear soko zoo with a +0 dagger :P 16:02 i should sac for mjollnir 16:06 i should sac for the item you found on dl1 16:06 i've yet to get dragonbane from god. i feel like this it's my turn 16:07 i got soooo lucky getting eota though... I was trying to dip test a potion with a unicorn horn, but i was standing on a fountain square and accidentally dipped the unihorn in the fountain and got a wish! 16:08 (and took my chances and neferet didn't come along) 16:08 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 16:08 yay 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:37214 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Con Gno Fem Cha), 284 points, T:584, killed by a goblin 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Tommo (Con Gno Fem Cha), 56 points, T:152, killed by a goblin 16:27 Damn, evilhack's size requirement calculations for saving on floppy disk are incorrect 16:29 literally unplayable 16:45 floppy disk? what sorcery is this? 16:46 it's such a scam that the later floppy disks aren't even floppy 16:49 hehe 16:49 it's so funny that's what they were still called 16:50 all the best games i ever played were on actual floppys. ultima 5, bards tale, wasteland 16:51 probably k2's fave eye of the beholder as well 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:42619 16:51 (although that might have been on 3.5" by that point) 16:52 i keep forgetting that i have windows installed on this "box" (it's an hp all in one so it's more like just a display) and that i have an install of the bards tale remade on there. i loved that game 16:59 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:43394 17:12 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 17:12 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 17:14 careful not to piss her off vaderflag 17:14 Yeah I put stormbringer away real fast, thinking of you 17:14 i think you died once like that too actually 17:14 Probably 17:14 i've done it twice now 17:14 cd .. 17:14 dammit what a noob 17:14 ^^ lol 17:15 i do that all the time 17:15 sudo shutdown now 17:15 The priest of moloch had two spellbooks of cause fear. That seems very on brand 17:16 poly fodder 17:16 that's half the reason i kill them 17:16 (other is i want my duckets back) 17:17 when spellbooks merge into a paper golem the paper golem should know those spells 17:17 reflection! finger of death! 17:17 haha 17:17 I love that 17:17 It would be neat if there was a way to attach specific spells to specific monsters 17:18 like, give the orc temple shamans fear or something, etc. 17:23 the priests usually have clerical books i think 17:23 although i think i've gotten other stuff too 17:24 healing i mean 17:24 priestish stuff 17:24 i don't think i've ever gotten fod off a temple priest 17:25 speaking of which... there are some temple priests in my game who need to die. maybe one of them has a spellbook of levitation if i can't find the damn ring? 17:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35325 17:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35328 17:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:35332 17:27 bedtime 17:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:36 ...I think many/most monster titles might work ok as simple appends -- "the rock gnome hits" becomes "the rock gnome huntmaster hits", "the rock gnome mistress of ceremonies hits" 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 804 points, T:1365, killed by a sewer rat 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:37928 18:21 https://store.steampowered.com/app/41900/The_Bards_Tale/ 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:39208 18:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:4852 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:40092 19:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5166 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:44475 19:45 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 19:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) destroyed karibou the elf zombie, and former Cutpurse, on T:5907 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:42879 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42883 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1369 points, T:3603, killed by a dagger 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker named tons of charges", on T:43683 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) wished for "magic marker named even more charges than bouquet's", on T:47278 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:48308 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:48336 20:51 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:45445 20:58 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 198 points, T:899, killed by an acid blob 21:02 dragonhide...sling 21:02 the most useless of all things 21:06 Not to trigger rebatela -- dragonhide pieces sure are fun, and they are amazing...but what if there was a slight penalty? What if each piece of dragonhide would gradually deteriorate over time, and the only way to repair the deterioration was to destructively rub them with vast quantities of gold coins? :-) So little to do with gold right now... 21:07 Dragons need their gold 21:07 Oro of Olay 21:10 hrm... no 21:10 and dragonhide sling is great, its already fooproof 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 638 points, T:708, zombified by an orc zombie, while helpless 21:13 slings are already pretty damn food 21:13 foo'd 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 662 points, T:319, killed by a bolt of cold 21:23 early fountain wish on level 2 and I ALMOST wished for gdsm...for my giant sammy 21:24 Any artifact can come with their owner, right, including stuff like Frost Brand? 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of magic resistance", on T:580 21:25 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 21:27 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:46157 21:49 krm26 yes 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47731 22:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 12368 points, T:9890, killed by a jaguar 22:43 rip me 22:46 K2: did you try shattered pixel dungeon yet? 22:51 no 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11351 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "+2 mithril large splint mail of decay", on T:48108 23:07 not blessed or greased or fixed bouquet? 23:07 no need to fix mithril, but yeah whats up with not blessed 23:08 or greased 23:08 there no reason to not grease 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:49200 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a slippery shield entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:15515 23:12 nice 23:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 93 points, T:1067, killed by a goblin 23:19 what are the chance of 2 pegasus in Ice Queen's throne room? 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:49779 23:24 there's 20% chance that a pegasus egg will spawn along with the actual pegasus 23:26 well, it got all upity so I had to put it down. 23:26 wasn't there a guaranteed wand of opening somewhere? 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16703 23:28 DAMMIT 23:28 i already have reflection 23:29 bouquet, votd 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a bone long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:50872 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a Mordor orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:5315 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:5332 23:37 yo dawg, I heard you like reflection... 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:5607 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5895 23:50 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 23:54 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]