01:47 tinklebear: sounds like you want to #sit on a container 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7128 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7366 02:08 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 03:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10996 03:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 03:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:11359 04:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Athena, on T:16035 04:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:07 I think I understand how I am able to recognize cockatrice eggs 05:08 I was polymorphed into a cockatrice earlier... 05:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a steel scale mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:19327 05:30 ok so i got the "hey stop picking that lock" warning from the watch. Do I just need to wait a bunch of turns ? Or I have to untrap the door now ? 05:31 hilarious that the reason it becomes trapped is a essentially a bug 05:32 I think it will remain trapped 05:37 if i cast knock at the door after being warned it should just unlock it right? 05:38 tried to untrap and set it off. oh well 05:39 i should probably just kill the watch anyway 05:39 problem is it's the temple door and i didn't want it destroyed. don't know wiz lock yet 05:40 this always seems to happen to me with temple doors 05:41 I'm having to waste poly charges on rings trying to get levitation :-) 05:42 i always poly for rings 05:42 i wish i had poly so i could do the same thing! lol 05:42 shocking sphere destroyed all mine 05:42 I know, I knew you would appreciate it ;-) 05:42 normally I only poly scrolls 05:42 i've been gathering tools as well for when i get poly 05:42 i don't even have a towel or stethoscope 05:43 we play very differently but i learn a ton from you! :) 05:44 well i also usually am CASTING it so it's not really wasting charges. i do see what you mean when it's the wand and you don't have charging 05:44 those charges are precious 05:45 i poly scrolls too, but the thing with rings and amulets and tools is that there's an abundance of useless ones 05:46 only 3 charges left, need to get lucky... 05:46 reading last night's backscroll- krm26 almost set the high score? BE MY GUEST! 05:46 it's funny no one has really tried to get a high score in evilhack yet. It's all unintentional... 05:46 someone needs to run it up with gems or something so i don't have the 1 spot 05:47 i'm gonna have to watch ttyrecs to see when my amulet of mr got stolen... is there some awesome ttyplayer i should be using ? anything with a gui? all i have is ttyplay 05:48 ipbt? 05:48 oh cool thanks pinkbeast. i will check it out 05:49 (no GUI, Unixy, but you can search back and forward for when a given string appears which makes it pretty easy, say, to find out when you last saw the amulet in your inventory) 05:50 nice 05:50 it's play back time! 05:55 no luck on the lev. at least I got a bunch of other nice rings. 06:04 ah that sucks 06:04 no boots? 06:07 I am a centaur :-) 06:07 no boots for me 06:08 could maybe try to get white dragon scales at the ice queen branch 06:08 at least as a Valk I don't slip on ice 06:12 you distrubed me fool 06:12 dammit 06:13 at least it didn't make a wish this time.. 06:13 i couldn't believe that shit 06:13 k2 says it's "extremeley rare" 06:19 unlucky :-( 06:20 luckily i had just found my first lizard corpse because it wished for a cocaktrice egg and threw it at me lol 06:20 that was funny at least 06:21 speaking of which, i need to become fast again in this game because i think i got stoned earlier and had to pray 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a pseudodragon, on T:26764 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 108132 points, T:26980, killed by an earth elemental, while dressing up 06:55 !lastgame rebatela 06:55 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1638974112.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1635630934.evil.html 07:06 cruel game 07:07 is it possible to read a teleport scroll whilst engulfed by a gelcube? 07:08 still haven't found any teleport wands 07:17 In practice, I remember worrying about that 07:17 In principle, you can use scrolls in silent polyforms, correct? 07:18 what I'm saying is, I have no idea 07:19 I know you can't cast spells, you need air for that 07:19 but with scrolls, don't you "cogitate the formula" or something like that? 07:20 hopefully! :-) 07:20 when you're a balrog, say 07:20 to the wiki... 07:21 thing is, I have very little confidence that there isn't some intervening evil that prevents extrapolating from balrog case to engulfed-by-gelcube case 07:22 "You are blind, have no mouth and know either the magic words or the identity of a scroll. Effects of the scroll happen." 07:22 for the cogitate case 07:22 so, that sort of sounds to me like if you're a mouth-haver, you're in trouble 07:23 could go either way... 07:23 * tinklebear nods 07:23 * tinklebear chuckles gloomily 07:23 well, I have 1 digging charge left. if it happens again I'll try the experiment first 07:25 for science 07:25 SCIENCE 07:25 o/ 07:26 or maybe qt will appear and just give the answer :b 07:27 "You disturbed me, fool!" 07:27 you can read it 07:28 \o/ 07:28 or maybe you cant idk 07:28 roflmao 07:28 :O 07:29 haha 07:30 have you ever read a teleport scroll inside a gelcube rebatela? 07:30 i don't remember 07:31 well, usually the damn things also paralyse you :-) 07:31 at least I have free action at the moment 07:32 marble wand (for sale, 667 zorkmids) 07:32 i'm sure it's nothing 07:32 but there is that tiny chance... 07:38 really, i think reading the scroll in a gelcube with free action will go to the 'cogitate' case, like if you read it with an amulet of strangulation on 07:39 i don't see anything in doread that would stop it at least 07:46 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:53 dammit something killed the temple priest. must have been that ettin zombie. 07:54 of course that happens before i buy any protection 07:55 coaligned too, so it didn't help me at all (other than the spellbooks and spare robe) 07:56 i really hope there are more temples in main dungeon 08:07 thx qt! 08:08 or pray a lot on the altar rebatela 08:09 the god can give protection too 08:09 that's true 08:09 one thing i realized only recently is that you can get that first d4 that way too 08:09 yup 08:09 i never knew that because i have always bought it before getting it from prayer 08:10 but yeah... playing monk (and especially giant monk) i'm a big fan of divine protection from prayer 08:10 hopefully there's another temple before ice queen/valley though 08:10 rng is crazy sometimes there's like 5 of them 08:10 other games you get orctown AND no temples 08:14 i was just surprised to see the priest get killed. I'm not sure how it happened. He was alive when i got to town! 08:14 must have gotten zombie'd, but you don't even see them kill shopkeepers anymore 08:15 zombie must have been very lucky 08:15 exactly 08:15 it was one of those blue ones. ettin i thinmk 08:15 ah, giant and ettin zombie would have a chance 08:16 how do hobbit zombie manage to bite human heads? 08:17 they hop up in the air with each bite 08:17 flexible neck 08:17 they are zombies after all 08:18 hoppits 08:18 nassty hoppitses 08:18 we hates them 08:22 heh 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:7503 08:40 oh wow, white dragon scale mail freezes water *and lava* under foot 08:40 want one 08:42 it got nerfed sadly 08:42 Medusa's a good skate, charlie brown 08:42 it used to destroy drawbridges. super powerful 08:42 but k2 feared that power falling into the hands of us mere mortals 08:42 so he ```fixed''' the ```bug''' that made it disable all drawbridges 08:43 lol 08:43 heh 08:44 ideal for the valk quest though, I have no lev or flying yet 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby yellow dragon, on T:7789 08:47 from the backscroll. I think I solved the cockatrice egg recognition mystery. I was a cockatrice myself earlier after a poly wand attack. 08:47 good thing you didnt assume it was a fruit and eat it 08:47 heh krm26 was egging me on :b 08:48 did you lay an egg? 08:48 no, next zap I was something else again 08:48 hmm 08:48 but still, it makes sense to me 08:50 it looks like the only times you 'should' learn an egg type like that is if you lay one yourself, formally ID one, or see one hatch 08:50 if you didn't lay one my guess is that one hatched on the edge of the visible area at some point without your consciously noticing? 08:50 or i am missing something, that's possible too :) 08:53 damn, bang goes my theory :-) 08:54 I must have missed a hatching egg at some point 09:02 the wiki supports your theory, mobileuser 09:04 (make of that what you will) 09:05 another plot twist! 09:05 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Egg#Egg_species 09:05 interesting, thank you! 09:06 i can spot pit fiend egg/s without id'ing 09:06 lol 09:10 :P 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8708 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided gelatinous cubes, on T:8913 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a wormwood staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:9103 09:25 omg 09:26 oh yeah 09:26 i was misreading it, mobileuser you are right 09:27 a rare occurence! 09:27 i thought it was only after you lay the first egg, but it is as soon as you polyself 09:27 not that rare :) 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10385 09:36 whoops 09:37 gonna die to one of these leocrottas anyway (i would have genocided them if i knew i was going to get one on every damn level and 2 in minetown) 09:37 oh sweet that same ettin zombie killed one of them! lol 09:38 just need to get it to kill the other one 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11408 09:53 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: [chad_ubuntu.png]] 09:59 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:01 K2: Since you don't accept $ to help defray server costs, and because people are so stupid that NFTs are actually a thing -- make an evilhack ascension NFT which you can OPTIONALLY BUY when you ascend :-) 10:01 Ohmigod I'm going to wet myself laughing at this idea 10:02 rofl 10:02 I mean it is both perfect and so fantastically stupid 10:03 As an aside I gotta say if you asked me 10 years ago I would have said it is impossible to make something with the word "fungible" in it that I wouldn't like 10:03 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/tnnt/dumplog/1636469323.tnnt.html 10:04 ^ I would buy that one 10:04 Heh 10:04 I mean, few things actually play into the dumbass NFT idea as well as an ascension report 10:04 A complex unique proof-of-work 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1000 points, T:1471, killed by a rothe 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 97776 points, T:28626, killed by Ashikaga Takauji 10:12 oooops 10:12 man I am so lazy 10:14 heh 10:14 :( 10:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:20701 10:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:44 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:47 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 10:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Mon Cen Mal Neu), 2776 points, T:1386, killed by a copper crossbow bolt, while praying 10:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:02 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:12 i am going to sell the NFT of readable hawaiian shirts commit 11:12 https://gitnft.quine.sh/ i think i could get a million billion dollars for it 11:13 "well worth it mate, well worth it" (Limmy) 11:15 if you wear white DSM and a giant eel or salamander in lava tries to grab you and pull you under, will it fail? 11:15 it should fail, but I wonder if that case has been handled 11:15 I know that magical breathing will prevent giant eels pulling you under water 11:21 i doubt it will fail honestly 11:21 i bet it's not covered 11:21 yes they still drown you 11:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 2176 points, T:3084, killed by a gnomish wizard, while frozen by a potion 11:27 K2 I think that's a bug 11:27 (going afk for a while) 11:28 uh oh 11:29 i just noticed several wdsm bugs while testing the drowning thing 11:30 qt, The design features water nymphs on a black background. 11:30 nice 11:31 black? seems dour for a hawaiian shirt 11:33 https://0x0.st/-Fc3.jpg 11:33 I was thinking of something like this when I included it 11:34 https://0x0.st/-FcY.jpg 11:38 K2: how is WDSM and lava supposed to work? 11:40 Yeah black-background aloha shirts are formal wear, for fancy evening engagements at Ft Ludios, for example 11:43 is it supposed to burn your stuff sometimes? 11:43 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:14775 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:64739 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:16304 12:32 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:33 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 13:32 qt sounds like I need to do a fire-proofing session after all 13:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:38 qt: nfts! do it! 13:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23354 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:67282 14:01 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Venus, on T:4196 14:17 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 14:23 qt so far my lizard corpse is not getting crispy. 14:24 it should dehydrate 14:31 your boots are what will burn up, other things in your inventory only under certain circumstances 14:31 Great, this infidel npc has reflection, black dragon scale mail and a wand of digging for the full trio of annoyance 14:32 What about a stack of cursed scrolls of TP? 14:33 zap em with cancellation 14:34 I forgot he's also got displacement 14:35 qt I am a centaur :-) 14:35 if you get 100% fire res your stuff will burn up lol 14:35 and you will sink into the lava 14:35 but if you have less than 100% fire res, it will freeze under you 14:37 lkgfkjfkljldf 14:38 SECOND giant sammy, invis from trap in the early game god DAMMIT 14:38 I just assembled my big stash of crap to sell 14:39 For the love of Jebus, they are hard to find already, at least give giant mummies large mummy wraps 14:48 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #83: Freezing water/lava with WDSM - https://git.io/JDt4b 14:55 Sigh, threw myself into the trap 14 times before it exploded but still invisible 14:55 Got one more to try! 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:68991 14:58 Eye? 14:58 No eye 14:58 Jeez Vecna 14:58 #quit and start again 14:59 heh heh 15:04 K2: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/83/files#diff-4bd3b6e08c69b7f82408a390a93e8af3ebf3c2177a449003c05ab4447ac86359R2214-R2215 15:08 I don't know if this actually matters... ICED_MOAT seems to be the default case when melting ice, so i don't think it has any negative effects from the user's perspective 15:08 but it is definitely weird 15:10 qt I have 100% fire res and I am not sinking into the lava (?) 15:10 no boots of course 15:11 hmm and it froze under your feet? 15:12 "The lava cools and solidifies under your feet." 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:78421 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:78424 15:13 huh I thought I reproduced it earlier but I must have done something wrong 15:14 oh I know why 15:14 it's because white dragon scales gives you water walking 15:15 if you didn't have water walking, but you did have magical freezing power, you would sink into the lava 15:15 which is impossible currently because even if you turn into a polyform that freezes things naturally, it doesn't give you that ability 15:16 so if I would wear eg speed boots I would sink into the lava? 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:69571 15:17 WDSM gives you water walking but if you weren't wearing WDSM or water walking boots you would 15:17 it's basically not an issue unless you add the ability to get the freezing power from your polyform 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24602 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24603 15:22 probably the reason I was able to reproduce it earlier was because I did add the ability to get it from your polyform lol 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:69752 15:22 thanks for checking qt! 15:24 hi 15:24 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 15:24 Hello K2, welcome to your nightmare 15:25 i dont doubt there were bugs with WDSM and walking on water/lava making it freeze underfoot. I yanked it from sporkhack 15:26 i havent looked at the PR yet 15:26 will very soon 15:27 is it just me or does anyone else think dungeon overview should include where the portal to the wizard tower is automatically? 15:28 it automatically annotates the portal to vecna and stairs to vlad. 15:28 Seems sensible 15:28 it also doesn't mention the vibrating square level. It includes "Level 44:" but with no description. 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:69891 15:30 K2: If there is some way to mark the sokoban prize closet as unspawnable, that would be really nice 15:30 what do you mean unswappable? context? 15:32 unSPAWNable 15:32 oh unspawnable 15:32 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:32 I think he doesn't like when a monster profanes his prize 15:32 its the zoo spawn and some monsters spawn in groups 15:32 qt made a fix for that for 3.7 recently 15:34 So I'm 2/2 so far on giant sammies being turned invisible in the first 3-4 levels by the first magic trap they hit 15:34 that's frustrating in the early game 15:34 * K2 nods 15:34 What is the rational behind not letting invisible customers into the shop? 15:34 invisible giant sammy is the name of my mime routine where i pretend to eat a poboy 15:35 qt: I know you were joking but now I want a poboy 15:35 krm26: I just keep hopping on the magic trap until it un-invisibles me. 15:35 Yeah, I tracked it - this time 14 jumps before it blew up. 15:36 giant race is hard 15:36 Toggled see invis twice, 7 cosmetic effects, 5 nasties 15:36 There's only a 5% chance of the invis result 15:38 So that is like, what, 35% shot in 20 attempts? 15:38 I can't do brain exponentiation 15:39 its further proof that the RNG hates you more than others, krm26 15:39 RNGhack 15:42 qt nice PR, thanks 15:42 should we let this one bake for a bit? 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:70322 15:44 the feeling is mutual -- I'm gonna get the rng one day 15:44 lol sure, test it out too if you don't mind... there are some significant non-bugfix changes in there, like allowing monsters wearing WDSM to freeze stuff as they walk, allowing the player to freeze stuff by polymorphing into a freeze_step monster... 15:44 so it would be good to make sure that all aligns with your magnificent vision for walking making things freeze 15:45 yup 15:45 and this will also freeze lava before it has a chance to burn up flammable obj in open inventory it looks like 15:46 is that correct? 15:46 yeah, the reason for that was because the way it works now, it marks all the flammable items in-use and then exits early with them still marked that way 15:46 which causes some error messages when you save and restore afterwards 15:46 yeah, that wasnt intended 15:46 i'm pretty sure the items can't actually burn up other than your boots 15:46 even currently 15:46 these same bugs probably all exists in sporkhack 15:46 well most 15:47 sporkhack shares vanilla settings for what can burn and what cant 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 10210 points, T:6863, killed by a gargoyle 15:49 :/ 15:49 No, it is a mercy 15:49 :) 15:49 !lastgame krm26 15:49 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1639063862.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 15:49 I could have escaped a zillion ways 15:50 that was a nimble gargoyle 15:50 Just frusrated with invisible giants. Let's see if I can get 3 in a row! 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:79653 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker named number 2", on T:79655 15:59 holy smokes! 0:95 and 0:98 charges on these two markers! 15:59 I'm going to write my memoires 15:59 wow 16:00 bouquet, you know that guarantees this giant sammy is also getting made invis 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided gray dragons, on T:79672 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided black dragons, on T:79673 16:01 I probably sucked all the good luck out of the amazon rng. Expect AWS to go down again... 16:04 becoming invisible is just one of the challenges of playing giant... 16:05 it's not that i don't have empathy! quite the opposite. it's a pita, but i just sort of accept that it's gonna happen 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1641 points, T:1903, killed by a hobbit pickpocket 16:07 it's great in the mid game when I'm done shopping. 16:07 but a pain when I still want to get into a shop. 16:08 or if you want to use conflict or kite wraiths 16:09 speaking of conflict... do monsters have to be in line-of-site for it to work now? 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic harp", on T:79870 16:11 wasn't that always true? 16:11 it's probably always been and I'm just now noticing it 16:11 the change is that they have to be visible now 16:12 it used to be that as long as they were in your line of sight, it would affect them 16:12 now if they're right nearby but on a dark spot, they aren't affected 16:12 and if you're blind it doesn't work at all 16:12 even with telepathy? 16:12 yeah 16:12 legit 16:12 so a zen player can't use conflict at all 16:13 i'm not a huge fan of that change... 16:13 also it doesn't work if you're invisible 16:13 without those caveats it's too OP 16:14 i like the change to make its effectiveness depend on charisma 16:14 i don't mind the invisibility thing too much in evilhack or xnh, but in vanilla where invisibility is permanent, you're basically locking yourself off from conflict for the rest of the game... 16:15 tied to charisma would be a great change. Make those +chr rings useful for a change 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:25459 16:15 that's already part of the conflict overhaul too bouquet 16:15 i'm pretty sure at least 16:16 i wish they had done the charisma thing without the invis and blindness restrictions, to see how that was on its own 16:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:24745 16:16 nice mobileuser 16:17 \o/ 16:18 thank you white dsm 16:19 mobileuser is bursting with white dsm pride 16:20 oh dear... I have used orange DSM too 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:80026 16:20 am I a white orangist? 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:80028 16:20 mobileuser is a unite the right rally? 16:20 OMG 16:21 orange and white dragons matter? 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:80221 16:22 we must secure the scales of white dragons and also scrolls of enchant armor 16:23 yeah, I want gold next, but I'm out of enchant armor... 16:23 go go go bouquet! 16:23 wait, does the freezing thing happen only for WDSM specifically? not WDS? 16:24 it's both 16:24 heh. This is the part where I #save and take a breather before I do something stupid. 16:24 wise! 16:24 the sanctum can be total hell 16:26 wait lol 16:26 does WDSM work on the plane of water 16:27 I thought not 16:27 it does lol 16:27 this is le epic 16:29 https://0x0.st/-FAX.mp4 16:30 i bet it's going to get le nerf 16:30 le nooooo 16:30 works as intended 16:30 EPIC 16:30 love it 16:30 nooooo 16:31 lol 16:31 I better hurry now 16:31 lol 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:80612 16:36 go go bouquet 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:80687 16:40 ok, NOW I'm going to take a break. 16:42 how do I pull up the encyclopedia again? 16:43 oh / probably... 16:44 arch-lich resist sickness, shame... 16:46 can't get sick if you're already dead 16:49 Detecting bad nethack juju, need to purge it 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:73004 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:73005 16:50 uh... 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:73006 16:50 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 16:50 had some spares to get rid off? 16:50 That should do it 16:50 Feeling better already 16:51 lol 16:52 huh, holding explosion moves all items you're standing on away from the tile 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:73149 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:73150 16:54 its an explosion :P 16:54 A very polite explosion, didn't shatter any objects inside the chest it moved 16:56 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver lance of shock called please don't break", on T:25012 17:19 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 17:24 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 17:30 K2: Sometimes you find a TP scroll closet open to a corridor, where you can just walk up and grab the scroll under the corpse knowing it is TP. In evilhack, maybe there should be a 25% chance the scroll is fire instead :-) 17:33 is there an origin story to why teleport is always found that way (in vanilla)? 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker called It was a dark and stormy night...", on T:73430 17:40 Man I miss permanent see invis 17:41 When you get it from an early fountain in evil it always wears off before there is anything invisible -- should get an extra 200 turns for every level above 10 :-) 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker named lorem ipsum dolor sit amet", on T:73440 17:44 et haec olim meminisse iuvabit 17:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 489 points, T:1044, killed by a wererat, while fainted from lack of food 17:48 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Quit: Client limit exceeded: 20000] 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:73746 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:73748 17:56 uuuugh 17:57 just got off the phone with our credit card company, someone got a hold of our card info and tried to rack up over 5 grand in a spending spree 17:57 it was all declined, and card is disabled. but still 17:57 bleeeeeeeh 17:58 brb 18:00 oh that was me 18:00 i thought it would be ok because we're friends 18:00 if you could just approve the charges i would appreciate it, i even bought you a present 18:02 we had someone yoink a work cc. Used it for junk food from grubhub and other food delivery and that's it. 18:02 I felt bad cancelling it. 18:06 krm26 (and bouquet): the reason it's always teleport is in case you randomly tp onto that square and have no other way of escaping so you don't starve to death 18:06 so if it was randomly fire instead of tp, you now have people starving to death because they hit a teleport trap or Q 18:07 that will teach them not to step on a teleport trap 18:07 always with the victim blaming 18:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:13 mutt work 18:13 oops 18:13 i mean -- yeah, that's right, you dirty mutt work 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74725 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74727 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:74770 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:20254 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:74892 18:40 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:74928 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1381 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 953 points, T:1384, killed by a Green-elf 18:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 5516 points, T:8929, withered away 18:52 go vaderFLAG 18:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 373 points, T:1015, zombified by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 vorpal blade", on T:81855 19:09 so even though "For a moment, you feel something in your hands, but it disappears!" it generated it so an Astral adventurer won't be generated with it, right? 19:10 (vorpal blade) 19:10 I had wishes to spare so I blew a wish on it hoping that would keep it out of the game 19:10 no? 19:10 never heard of that 19:12 sometimes I wish up vorpal blade to generate it pre-astral because sometimes the astral adventurer can be generated with it if it hasn't existed yet. 19:12 good strat 19:12 learned to do that the hard way. 19:13 in any case, I'm lawful so I wasn't sure it would even appear. Instead I got the message I posted above. 19:13 not sure if that will work according to my strategy. 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:82102 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:82214 19:21 woo 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 3090232 points, T:82261, shot herself with a death ray (with the Amulet) 19:22 nice 19:23 bouquet: what happened 19:23 !lastgame bouquet 19:23 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1638222099.evil.html 19:23 cursed wand of death backfired 19:23 I thought they just exploded 19:23 nooo :/ 19:23 whevs 19:23 that's BS 19:24 I was getting double teamed by rodney on air so there was an endless parade of baddies all around. 19:24 the backfire bypasses MR entirely? 19:25 it's like pointing it at your face 19:26 anyway, just in time to head out for the office holiday party!! Free food and drinks, wooo! 19:27 \o/ 19:27 and :/ 19:28 qt yeah that's vanilla behavior w/ wand of death. if zap yourself with it, MR wont save you 19:28 zap yourself or break the wand with charges left 19:28 i mean, both of those are deliberate actions 19:28 yup 19:28 cursed wand is cursed 19:29 so i would argue it's not exactly vanilla behavior 19:29 but i get the argument 19:29 it uses the existing vanilla behavior, at least 19:29 can happen in xnethack too fyi 19:29 yeah i figured 19:29 i just choked on a giant in xnh 19:29 oh geez 19:29 i got lifesaved though 19:29 YASD all the way around 19:30 did you get the str boost? 19:30 lol i started eating the giant, thought "hmm what if I choke", and then rather than reconsider and stop eating, i put on an aols and continued 19:30 hahaha 19:30 that's the true way of the glutton baby 19:30 * K2 hands qt the Gluttony award of excellence 19:41 You're gonna be chasing the taste of that giant the rest of the game 19:42 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 19:42 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42 Thank you bouquet for reminding me to bless my death wands 19:45 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 19:48 aosdict: I meant only the case of the closet that is also part of a hallway (which seems to happen fairly frequently in evil) -- I know why it is TP. So people expect it to be TP, which is why it is evil for it sometimes to be fire when found in a place where you 100% don't need TP :-) 19:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 302 points, T:1332, killed by Mr. Akalapi; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 19:59 K2: You miss the water nymph. The water nymph charms you. You gladly let her take your shirt. she stole a cursed fireproof +0 striped shirt. 19:59 note the lower cased she 20:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 314 points, T:2141, killed by a gnome zombie 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:76257 20:08 thanks 20:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3324 20:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1270 points, T:3324, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 20:16 Pegasus made it to astral!! 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:76459 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:76461 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:6317 20:25 The water nymph charms you. You gladly let her take your shirt. She stole a cursed fireproof +0 striped shirt (5 aum). 20:25 neat 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:76521 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu), 2645203 points, T:76535, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1635646440.evil.html 20:28 grumble dishonor grumble! 20:31 congrats! 20:31 \o/ 20:31 yay! 20:34 Was looking at your level notes, so readable :-) 20:34 My level notes? Hmmm 20:34 I do crap like #=& (sink with ring and foocubus still not kicked out :-) 20:34 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JDqJh 20:34 [EvilHack] k21971 9f466f6 - Fix: lack of capitalization (monster stole something feedback). 20:35 I like that a lot more and I'm gonna steal it, I do sink -rps 20:35 #=P& #= #- 20:37 Get to enjoy a few hours alone at 5 streak before mobileuser joins me 20:37 that's bonkerdoodles -- I only have a 2 streak due to a freak accident 20:41 PS before I head off for the night, pegasus not only made it to astral, but survived, I'm pretty sure! 20:44 my pegasus is guaranteed to be in something's belly or a statue in 7 turns 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Yaci (Val Cen Fem Neu), 582 points, T:636, killed by a piranha 20:59 Wow, bone barding is light! Too bad I'm a frigging giant 20:59 Maybe *I* can wear the barding! 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 10458 points, T:10586, killed by a wraith 21:20 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:22 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 21:59 Aw come on -- nymph with my bag disappeared from the level 22:05 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:11 nymph steals my pickaxe and teleports to a location I have to dig to get to 22:12 after using all 7 charges of my wand of sleep on me -- can't believe I lived