00:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 00:27 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:22 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 01:24 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:47 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 01:47 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 01:49 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:13440 05:38 lol, the perils of having unlocked club skill earlier 05:38 oh well, junk arti vs black dragon 05:38 is keolewa good? 05:39 not very 05:39 ah 05:39 any reason you are neutral btw? 05:39 centaur 05:39 ah oki 05:39 can't be lawful :-) 05:39 yeha makes sense 07:59 I wonder how the minetown guards will react if I wield Giantslayer with a giant shopkeeper present. That experiment will have to wait until after the quest as I suspect alignment loss will be hard to avoid :-) 08:08 giantslayer will aggro a giant shopkeeper 08:17 yes, but I wonder if that will in turn anger the guards 08:25 it will anger them i think 08:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:14714 08:30 always a relief 08:31 oh 08:32 idk if that will anger them 08:32 i thought you were asking if it would anger giant guards 08:34 maybe only if I kill the giant shopkeeper 08:35 science will be done at some future point 08:35 even that doesn't seem to anger them actually 08:35 perhaps based on the 'he hit me first' principle 08:36 you are totally killing the suspense :b 08:37 my apologies 08:38 the creator of readable hawaiian shirts has no need to apologise 08:38 yeah readable hawaiian shirts are important! 08:38 gj 08:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5817 08:43 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Brigit, on T:55451 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 31375 points, T:12184, poisoned by a locust, while praying 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:87063 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:87076 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:87199 09:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:15046 09:59 why discard a wand of death that you could recharge krm26? 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:87490 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:87505 10:00 \o/ 10:00 go go 10:01 Some jerkwad priest cancelled a big charged wand of death 10:01 it was 0:-1 10:01 what a jerk 10:02 yoou could still recharge it 10:02 I've got more 10:02 ok :-) 10:02 Worse, my +6/+6 demonbane/sunsword are 0 now 10:02 oof 10:03 what - a - jerk 10:06 K2 very minor thing, but a blessed scroll of magic detection doesn't reveal the true name of artifacts 10:06 huh 10:08 so eg I still have "a blessed club named Keolewa" in my inventory 10:08 instead of "the blessed Keolewa" 10:08 i thought it just showed which items were magical and revealed their oprops, does it formally ID them too? 10:09 blessed does partial identification 10:09 so eg I know what my rings are now 10:10 instead of true name I should maybe say their true nature or something 10:11 Ok, what in hell is with the constant stream of antimatter vortices 10:11 RNG hates you 10:11 bad RNG 10:11 Is there a better strategy for them than cursed gain level/teleport away? 10:11 yes 10:11 do tell 10:11 hit them with your favorite artifact 10:12 have full disint res 10:12 and hit them with dragonbane 10:12 Oh, so I'm an idiot -- I just assumed when they touched me they'd be vaporizing crap. Not so? 10:12 in all seriousness - treat them like a black dragon 10:12 Oh 10:12 Wow 10:12 as far as attacking them 10:12 I scare myself a lot more than I should I guess 10:13 if they engulf you, there's a chance each attack they'll disint something worn 10:13 when engulfed, you better have disint res! 10:13 k2 I think this would change the magic detection thing mobileuser is talking about https://termbin.com/sonj 10:13 actually no 10:13 Can you knock your way out when engulfed? 10:13 yeah that should work 10:14 krm26 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ce0a2c33015f139a5905203ec0134a363487a0d1 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:58016 10:14 https://termbin.com/c25z 10:14 ^ gotcha 10:14 thanks qt 10:15 The new alignment messages are great, thanks for adding that 10:16 thanks 10:16 glad you all are enjoying the changes 10:16 i'm close to stopping work on 0.7.1 and will move onto 0.8 10:17 That's the one where worn equipment has durability that you lose every turn it's equipped, right? 10:17 What's on the 0.8 menu? 10:17 new role, new races 10:17 I really like how you've toned down @npc loot 10:17 From how it was initially 10:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:18 Oh it's been diminished? I missed that 10:18 Well, on day 1 it was bags of holding full of glory and magic armor out the butt 10:18 That's the one where worn equipment has durability that you lose every turn it's equipped, right? <--- mm? what do you mean 10:18 Now you only find stuff like that in the final game stages 10:19 K2 Oh that was just me pulling the evilest thing I could think off out of my butt 10:19 Your gray dragon scale mail breaks and turns to dust! 10:19 heh 10:20 i may add dtsund armor/scales like what xnethack 10:20 still mulling that over 10:20 Yeah I think that's a great system 10:21 before i start in on 0.8 though, I need to get hdf-us moved over to the new server 10:21 new server exists, i've just been waiting for tnnt to be over before i finish it up 10:21 i need to set a date 10:22 Why's it moving to a new server? 10:22 mainly a money saving move 10:23 apply for some kind of facebook ai research grant, you are facilitating their research by making nethack available 10:23 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 10:23 the volume size on the AWS instance is big. like 1TB big. needed it, but now that all the ttyrecs are offloaded to s3, i dont need a volume size that large. and that's a huge amount of savings in the $$$ dept 10:24 HA HA on me -- dropped the amulet by mistake with a bunch of other crap. Poof! teleported 10:24 Well if a server cost donation link appears some day on the site I'd use it 10:24 i'm already saving money per month when I moved hdf-eu over to a new instance, i'll save even more when i decommision old hdf-us 10:25 VaderFLAG I appreciate that, but I dont take donations 10:26 hmm this weekend would be a good time to do the switch 10:26 I figured there was a reason it didn't exist 10:26 or right after 10:27 k2 funds hardfought solely by mugging people. taking money from people giving it willingly is antithetical to that goal 10:28 You don't take donations, but the SERVER could have a patreon page :-) 10:28 someone could impersonate k2 on patreon and collect serious moolah 10:28 no no... I raid drug dens and steal their drug money to fund hdf 10:29 ^ I wish 10:29 is a wand of nothing non-magical? 10:29 mobileuser: yes 10:29 ah :-) 10:29 Wands of nothing shouldn't be non-magical when they are directional :-) 10:29 so is a blank scroll or book 10:29 There's producing a magical effect of nada in that direction 10:30 many years ago there was a joke about vaporware called "nada" 10:30 download size 0 kB 10:32 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JDUHk 10:32 [EvilHack] k21971 458af66 - Fix: scrolls of magic detection were not identifying artifacts. 10:34 nice, thx qt and K2 10:34 o/ 10:34 not live yet but will be soon 10:37 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:44 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:44 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 10:51 I wonder what I am forgetting for this ascension 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:88728 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:88729 10:56 I'm going afk, good luck krm26!! 10:57 A mysterious force creates a cave around you? Never seen that before 10:57 So I'm glad to get my critical thing I forgot out of the way -- left all my wands of digging behind. *phew*, not a critical mistake 11:07 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09 Ah well, no ascension for me -- just can't kill the magic resistant wizards, they duplicate faster than I can kill them 11:11 don't give up! (and bless the amulet) 11:12 Finally killed one of them to get the amulet, now another one 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:89007 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed wand of digging", on T:89041 11:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:89063 11:22 Jesus no way 11:23 brutal 11:23 I just can't outpace them 11:24 Basic skill artifacts don't cut it 11:24 Maybe if I was level 30 instead of level 20 11:24 But it is all brute force, there's no way to finesse any of this 11:25 i had the same problem, just couldn't quite do damage quick enough 11:25 Unfortunately hopping in the portal would almost certainly make things worse 11:25 Who's with you, Rodney and a bunch of junk? 11:25 Two Rodneys and solid junk 11:25 I've just tried charming a bunch of the crap and am hiding in a black dragon right now 11:25 Rodney's fire resist, isn't he? Should be using that frostbrand 11:25 Run through my entire stack of full healing and about 20 holy water 11:26 I've used everything off and on, one of them had my Xiu for most of the start 11:26 Been using demonbane/Sunsword mostly 11:27 WTF 11:27 That was a non-cursed wand of death wasn't it? 11:30 will the wizard follow you through the portal if not adjacent? 11:31 I thought so, might as well find out as die here :-) 11:31 Time to take a nice relaxing sauna in a fire vortex 11:31 God I'm so dumb, I guess not 11:31 Or did you get vuln'd 11:31 No healing left, probably have to burn a wish for 2 full healing pots 11:32 Sensible 11:32 What happened to your boots from before you wished for new(?) ones 11:32 Completely deteriorated and destroyed off of me 11:33 Watching high-res curses color coded makes me feel like a rainbow is vomiting all over me 11:34 Heh 11:34 Crap -- does confused gold detection work when you're engulfed? 11:34 think so 11:34 I think so 11:35 do you play with color off vaderflag? 11:36 No, but it's the combination of the permanent inventory plus all the colors that overwhelms my poor brain 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of full healing", on T:89126 11:37 curses is so much better for watching 11:37 It really is 11:37 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JDTeu 11:37 [EvilHack] k21971 73c667d - Formatting clean-up in mcastu.c 11:38 that was ugly 11:39 Rebatela is there to HELP krm26 11:39 Blasting you with ice is just removing some of the lava 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided krakens, on T:89193 11:45 i don't like the water plane at all 11:46 i even get stressed watching other people there lol 11:46 How does wresting wishing work these days? Autodust? 11:46 20% chance if blessed, i think 11:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JDTfZ 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:59964 11:47 [EvilHack] k21971 ae0579b - Bit more formatting clean-up in mcastu.c 11:47 Just 1 round no matter what tho right? 11:47 yup 11:47 you have one shot 11:48 Sheesh, I've been reduced from 30 holy water, uncurse, tons of full healing, blah blah blah down to like 10 holy water and nothing else 11:50 Omigod I just totally f'd myself and didn't notice I was confused when I read a scroll of remove curse :-) 11:51 oops 11:52 So many unforced errors 11:52 worst thing is losing the buc knowledge 11:53 oh that sucks! 11:54 I deserve death 11:54 shouldn't make that big of a difference other than the wands 11:55 and the blessed stuff (like the bag) will stay blessed 11:55 you may have gotten lucky and blssed the death wands 11:56 I read a blessed scroll of remove curse after 11:56 oh ok cool 11:56 My last one unfortunately 11:56 I have a like a 1% chance of ascending still if the next wizard doesn't have MR 11:57 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 11:57 Ok, air next 12:00 So sad, gonna die to air elementals 12:00 conflict? 12:01 nonsense! you are stronger than some puny wind things 12:01 life saving? 12:01 Wish I had some more healing 12:01 I see seven teleport charges 12:01 I see eight teleport charges and one guy who can't count 12:02 Did you blow up a bag of holding this run? Bad luck if you didn't 12:02 death charges too 12:03 No, I only blow up bags of holding every third run :-) 12:03 lamp for more healing? 12:04 Don't know its BUC status 12:04 I could live safe for healing 12:04 dip it to find out, but obvs not this turn 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an air elemental), on T:89362 12:08 well that wasn't much help at all 12:10 I guess I didn't know, never having had to try, that breaking a wand of teleport and using scare monster don't do anything on the plane of air 12:11 Ugh eyes on air are the worst 12:11 airE are blind? and the wand had no charges? 12:11 Blind monsters don't respect scare monster? How did I never know that? 12:13 no, they are mindless 12:13 mindless cant be scared 12:13 no mind 12:15 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 12:16 f*ing djinni goddammit 12:16 Selfish prick 12:16 i had a djinni use the wish himself yesterday 12:17 You released him in a particularly awesome spot too 12:18 at least you have baller AC 12:19 oh nice it pacified that npc 12:19 on the kirin 12:19 baller 12:20 Crap 12:20 Death is not who I wanted 12:21 life saving? 12:21 Yeah I have one left 12:23 I think I'm gonna go the other direction 12:23 I haven't made one right decision this entire ascension so why start now 12:23 "Burrrrp!" makes me smile every time 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:89467 12:25 Just perfect -- death ray keeps missing famine, but unerringly kills my worms 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:89470 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:89470 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:89470 12:25 there I am! 12:25 kill 'em all 12:26 yeah sometimes you have no choice but to kill the pets 12:26 Don't you dare kill me! 12:26 ruins your luck 12:26 just be thankful the riders don't have magic resistance (yet) 12:26 High Priestess no less 12:26 NOOOOO 12:27 You'll have your revenge 12:28 Hey, if I'd kept a wish, or brought one of the many helms of opposite alignment I found, I'd be done right now! 12:29 I'm so stupid. Are wands of death limited to one recharge now? 12:29 yes 12:29 I guess so 12:30 Nice of famine to chill out and zap you with his wand 12:31 aaah, that 0:-1 wand of death you threw away... 12:31 As I said, doing nothing right 12:31 Remember too that I had basically infinite everything before starting the run 12:32 so you can recharge 0:-1? 12:32 yes 12:32 I guess my brain sees -1 and says "trash" 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:89548 12:33 i never knew you could charge canceled wands either 12:34 man, i hope this is the altar ! 12:34 Well, that is it, I have just two more amulet tricks and I'm out 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a yellow dragon), on T:89560 12:35 oh live saving is only half HP now? or is there a cap at 150 or something 12:35 150 cap 12:36 been that way for quite awhile 12:36 NICE! 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 7259496 points, T:89577, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1638547929.evil.html 12:36 PHEW 12:36 Omigod 12:36 sweet. Congratz! 12:36 wow 12:36 congrats \o/ 12:36 congrats 12:36 That was the most awful ascension I've ever had 12:36 haha that was a QUICK #offer getmeouttahere! 12:36 congrats!!! 12:36 Good job 12:36 And I would have said that character had the strongest start on the planes 12:36 was that... hardfought? :) 12:36 Euruuuuurgggh 12:37 You ruined it 12:37 Anyway that was a nice return after tnnt 12:37 i ruined nothing. I sprinkled awesome on it 12:37 good job krm26 12:38 Evil is substantially harder than it was a year ago 12:39 high praise :-) 12:39 I'll never beat my convict/priest 2-streak now 12:39 yeah. the wizard is much harder now 12:39 never say never 12:39 double trouble especially 12:41 Yeah, double trouble with MR and stealing your quest artifact weapon is sub-par 12:41 what level does the wizard need to be to cast double trouble? 12:42 don't forget about the cancelling of your stuff too 12:42 So looking at the stats I see I've done evil as Wizard (human, Illithid), convict, priest, monk, rogue, arc (Hobbit, dwarf), ranger, and knight 12:43 Sooo... Barbarian? Valkyrie? Caveman? I haven't liked those roles traditionally 12:43 captaaaaaaain caaaaaaavemaaaaaaan 12:43 ...maybe because I did not enjoy that cartoon :-) I'd rather run as a Jetson 12:43 heh 12:44 Oh, Sammy! I haven't done a sammy 12:44 sceptre of might is so underrated 12:45 You say that but you didn't patch it to its real item type until after I found it :-P 12:46 What are the evil sammy races? Centaur? Centaur centaur centaur 12:47 giant - you get body armor 12:48 Ad pray for tiamat? 12:48 Infidel not under consideration? 12:48 potentially wish for something lighter with a property 12:49 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49 Infidel is too weird, I don't understand it 12:49 heh. same here 12:50 And the time pressure with the 6000 turn sacrifice 12:50 I can't take that 12:50 I'm the 100k turn guy 12:50 Monster generation is at x8 when I get to the castle 12:51 (well, that's rhetoric, but still) 12:51 actually slow play suits Infidel 12:52 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 12:52 and don't worry about that sacrifice limit, it's just alignment 12:54 I wish boulders showed the *actual charged weight* in your inventory 13:04 they don't weigh much 13:05 i play giant all the time and it's never carrying too many boulders that makes me encumbered 13:14 minor thing: is it true you don't get a "your inner strength has improved" message in evilhack when wearing GoP and eating eg a giant? 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:9220 13:17 dammit gold 13:19 Isn't that an awful feeling 13:19 As someone who has been sunk in lava because of a gold amulet of flying... 13:22 YANI: a grey philosopher's stone, blessed turns foo to gold. Cursed turns gold to foo 13:22 Ok, asking for the LAST time...Excalibur is now 0% for non-knights via dipping, right? 13:23 right 13:23 but lawful gets it as crowning gift 13:24 well, not for all roles 13:25 wield a long sword when crowned 13:25 Ugh, I hate early perma-invis 13:25 Where are all the mummies 13:26 aren't you a giant? 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10469 13:28 Ooohhh sh*t 13:28 Um 13:28 Yeah 13:28 So I'm just *screwed* 13:29 you could grind gremlins 13:29 probly faster to #quit tho 13:29 No, just #noshop 13:29 Can you poly out of it? 13:30 poly into a form that can wear mummies ya mean? 13:31 or get the last laugh when you start controlled teleporting in to shops. ^_^ 13:31 you can teleport in and out, also dig from above 13:31 lawful 13:31 don't like invisible customers eh? don't worry... I'M NOT A CUSTOMER! (beams out) 13:32 let the pet handle the shopkeeper :P 13:33 Jeez being invis is a shop-generation magnet 13:33 cbus: the most lawful method. 13:33 stealing is wrong, so lock them in with Fido, your pet minotaur 13:34 I mean if there is no shopkeeper you just happen to find a large room with loot! :P 13:34 it's price id that i miss 13:36 You close the door. You lock the door. You hear some noises. You hear a chugging sound. You hear some noises. You hear a muffled cracking. You hear chewing. You unlock the door. 13:37 haha ;D 13:41 shop on every level, lots of vaults, pickaxe....invisible 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12045 13:42 yani - visible stalker, for these sorts of situations 13:42 there should be giant mummys 13:42 There are 13:42 But I get your point :-) 13:43 What is funny to me is giants being able to put on explicitly orcish and elven gear (boots, hats) 13:43 it does suck when it happens early game for a giant (invisibility) 13:43 later on you can teleport in 13:43 or like graznop said dig down but then you get stuck inside 13:44 sucks later if you want to kite wraiths too, but when it happens early game like that by the time you get to valley you might be visible again 13:44 pretty sure shopkeeper let me out when invisible 13:44 Invisibility has no time limit, does it? Thought that was only see invis 13:44 another trap can toggle it 13:45 true 13:53 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1497 points, T:1652, killed by a giant ant 13:59 sokoban gremlin! 14:00 Unfortunately just as likely to kill me as take my invis 14:03 YANI: The Helm of Terror, frightens all living creatures with eyes 14:04 I'm reading Icelandic sagas 14:04 The False Helm of Terror, frightens all living creatures without eyes to see that it isn't the real one 14:04 heh 14:05 The Helm of False Terror, scares absolutely everything but for only one turn 14:05 Have the Icelandic sagas ever been connected into something like the Finn's Kalevala? 14:06 oh, probably 14:06 Or the Elder Eddas? 14:06 I think the Eddas are the Icelandic sagas 14:06 Not very familiar with the Icelandic literary tradition 14:06 No, Norse 14:06 I'm doing research for my music course, in which I'm listening to Wagner's Ring Cycle 14:06 this is my attempt to understand it 14:07 where do these weird and twisted stories come from? 14:07 Well, I guess some of the Eddas could be Icelandic instead of mainland 14:07 Iceland wasn't even inhabited until like the 7th century or something 14:07 Just a wee baby country 14:07 the one that seems closest to Wagner's story is the Prose Edda, which is Icelandic 14:09 I thought the Prose Edda was just the extant re-baking of the earlier poetic eddas from the mainland 14:09 possibly 14:09 I don't know, I'm a new kid on the block 14:09 disclaimer: my focus was Renaissance and Classical, so all the Nordic stuff I'm kinda talking out my ass 14:10 Annnd also the height of my expertise is like 30 years vanished 14:10 I'm just looking for where old man Wagner got his stuff from 14:11 but, yeah, the Helm of Terror, we need that! 14:12 It would be neat if there were "named non-artifact properties" that would sometimes attach themselves to a specific generated item; for example, any helm you find of any type might turn out to be "the helm of terror" 14:12 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 14:12 Game effects would have to lean more towards cosmetic than no 14:13 evilhack does have properties, heh, terror could be added... 14:13 For example, random specific ring of any type generates as "named Serpent's Bite"; minor poison attack when hitting with hands 14:13 The Hawaiian Shirt of Terror! 14:13 lol 14:14 I guess I'm talking about some kind of color stuff different than properties 14:14 Different and unwishable 14:14 yeah, I think you are, nice idea 14:15 Or an apple might be "labeled from Eris's garden" and cases aggravate monster when carried 14:15 cases/causes 14:16 Damn, 30 gremlin hits, no property loss 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 93 points, T:472, killed by a fox 14:24 I thought gremlins were supposed to steal properties 10% of the time! 14:27 expected value is not always the outcome 14:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 229 points, T:536, killed by a steel shuriken 14:41 ...I think the gremlin did take something from me that I didn't notice. I think it took my giant's intrinsic ability to identify gemstones 14:42 that's not an intrinsic 14:42 if the gremlin didnt chuckle, nothing was stolen 14:42 also, regulat gremins only steal intrinsics during night time 14:42 Do giants not always identify gemstones? 14:43 NIGHT 14:43 oh crap 14:43 lava gremlins will steal during the day 14:43 krm26 its random what gemstones giants can id 14:44 different each game 14:44 how little I know 14:53 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:11684 15:04 krm26: there have been a couple of ideas for an artifact Apple of Discord, which causes not only aggravate monster but more importantly, conflict when carried 15:05 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 15:07 is it a mac or macbook? 15:11 macbook connected to discord 15:12 hahah 15:14 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:14 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #evilhack 15:16 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:60889 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:60902 15:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:16203 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 7 points, T:221, killed by a carnivorous bag 15:30 nosh on mosh 15:31 oh come ON...wizard bones with a sweet sweet MR cloak I *cannot wear* 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 732 points, T:3054, killed by a lesser homunculus, while sleeping 15:35 krm26 lawful giant really only has amulet of MR as option 15:35 sceptre of might 15:35 unless you want to wield the sceptre of might all the time 15:35 Dramborleg 15:36 or dramthing 15:36 :P 15:36 Never seen dramborleg 15:36 but not great to rely on a wielded weapon for MR 15:36 shopping for giants is hard 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 259 points, T:1414, killed by a gecko 15:37 much easier for neutral or chaotic giant 15:39 Dramborleg is MR? Looks like protection in the code 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 11 points, T:81, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 15:41 Sammy don't do axes anyway -- or clubs. Would need to be a gift, not very likely 15:41 K2: Shopping for INVISIBLE giants is REALLY hard 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 60 points, T:769, killed by a water demon 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 73 points, T:503, killed by a water demon 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 15 points, T:378, killed by dipping into a forge 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 9 points, T:263, killed by a goblin 15:53 The wand of cancellation backfires? This game is cursed (but the wand isn't, WTF) 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 92 points, T:709, killed by an arrow 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 17 points, T:135, killed by a fox 15:58 Hmm....anything unlawful about sacrificing non-giant watchmen on the minetown altar after my pet kills everyone? 16:00 Nope 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 7 points, T:635, killed by dipping into a forge 16:05 k2: Why would an uncursed wand of cancellation backfire on me and cancel my whole inventory? 16:06 it wouldnt 16:06 if it were cursed it could 16:06 or you aimed it at yourself 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 74 points, T:629, killed by Ms. Manlobbi; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 16:07 I couldn't possibly have 16:07 uncursed 16:07 Sigh, I should stop playing if I did that to myself 16:07 check the ttyrec 16:08 a monster zapping/casting cancellation at you will only affect x number of objects in open inventory 16:08 only way to blank out your entire inventory is if a wand you're using zapped yourself 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 37 points, T:265, killed by a newt 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to him by Brigit, on T:62331 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 78 points, T:539, killed by a falling object 16:17 qt i'm gonna clean up muse.c next 16:18 it's kind of a shitshow. especially 'find_defensive -> find_defensive_recurse' 16:18 minor bug i noticed too 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:71492 16:20 I don't wanna check the ttyrec, anything I would learn would only kill my spirit 16:20 Wish cancellation had taken away my invisibility 16:23 Ok, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF this run 16:24 object detection shows gnoll equipment in the sokoban closets, because of course there are gnolls in there 16:24 So I have to get random crap 16:24 hahaha 16:24 WTF dude 16:25 I mean 16:25 plural? 16:25 Ok, I have two bags of holding, so I'm clearly going to accidentally get another bag of holding 16:25 as in more than one closet? 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1696 points, T:951, killed by a falling rock 16:25 that's a good yani - wand of cancellation ending invis, extrinsic speed, extrinsic monster detection, the spell protection, and the like 16:25 There is a gnoll in all 3 closets 16:25 hahah 16:25 that was recently patched in vanilla i think 16:25 qt PR 16:25 I can get a morning star, a spear, or a nunchuk 16:26 F you very much 16:26 spear! spear! 16:26 Ok K2, top, middle, or bottom? 16:26 top 16:26 always go top 16:26 Like always pick rock? I can do that 16:26 even if you're a bottom, always claim top 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of a vampire mage", on T:115 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:14892 16:27 phew...not awesome but better than a bag 16:27 Of course it is GOLD, because THIS RUN 16:28 :D 16:30 yeah i just had my gold amulet of mr from soko stolen without noticing 16:31 and then all sorts of bad things started happening 16:31 i was wondering why the golden naga was able to cast destroy armor. no idea where the leprachaun is 16:31 Yo can put in a regex for ...stole your...gold... 16:31 then a booby trapped burned my armor more 16:31 then a shocking sphere broke most of my rings and wands 16:32 krm26: yeah i'm gonna have to do that 16:32 ugh, hate shocking spheres. But aren't they genocidable now? 16:32 Or did I dream it? 16:32 they are 16:32 but it's like saying why didn't you fooproof your armor 16:33 well maybe i don't have genocide or destory armor and unholy water and confusion to start the game lol 16:33 by the time you have all that shit it's too late 16:33 i went from like -17ac and mr to like -9 and no mr 16:34 and no rings or wands. i had slow digestion and protectrion and teleport wand etc etc. 16:34 but yeah, i do usually geno them 16:35 That's one industrious sphere to take all that 16:35 just frustrating. i keep fighting through these ok-ish starts and then things just fall apart 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:17795 16:35 oooh snap 16:36 Sunsword is amazing 16:36 i want dramborleg too 16:37 You implied earlier that Dramborleg had MR? 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a chain mail entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:17904 16:37 yeah 16:37 It looks like it has protection, not MR 16:37 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/17612dd4fcea0fd763de7d43ff1f5a0baa5bebd3 16:39 Oh duh, that is DFNS(AD_MAGM) then? 16:39 yes 16:39 I didn't realize that wasn't one of the SPFX_ properties 16:39 This code is just spaghetti 16:40 (Not your code, I mean the legacy architecture) 16:40 i like spaghetti 16:40 To eat it, or to write with it? :-P 16:40 you don't like spaghetti krm26? 16:41 In fact, I made spaghetti for dinner...nothing like fresh pasta 16:41 hell yeah 16:42 I normally make tagliatelle with a knife because it is one less thing to clean, but my daughter much prefers spaghetti 16:43 And apparently she always gets everything she wants and I can suck it 16:43 not bad on the altar saccing - sunsword, +5 chain mail and +5 ww boots 16:43 err +3 chain mail 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:72867 16:44 I need to do some altar sacs desperately but the altar spawns ghosts and I can't kill them since I'm an autocanceller 16:44 "Dave the Student of Stones clambers onto the centaurian lieutenant!" 16:44 Even monks get horny 16:44 'The centaurian lieutenant feels awkward' 16:44 heh 16:44 for centaurs 16:45 nice bouquet 16:45 'In the presence of Sunsword, the orc zombie's corpse dissolves into nothingness.' 16:45 woop 16:46 Does it dissolve wraiths to? I try to be careful and not hit them with it 16:48 no just the zombos 16:48 what a zest for knowledge 16:48 what a diligent student! 16:48 chance of instadeath to all undead? 16:49 doesn't that completely destroy them? 16:49 It instagibbed an alhoon for me last run 16:49 now you made me google "to gib" 16:50 do the youngs not say "instagib" any more? 16:50 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Instagib 16:50 I am not young but I still never heard of it :-) 16:50 gaming slang 16:51 Yeah, Doom II era I think 16:51 well, I also learned about buff and nerf here :-) 16:52 spicyCebolla what happened to splicehack development? 16:52 Nerf predates like everything, I remember using it in the early 80s...buff I don't recall before like City of Heroes era 16:53 1058 @Kes Splice is not dead but I'm in the middle of switching computers and linux distros, so I'm temporarily out of commission. 16:53 ah 16:54 gettin my xnh,dnh,unh ascensions in, in the meantime 16:55 I think a demon lord stole half my fire resistance. I've eaten some corpses but none of it has returned. Is this permanent? 16:56 Maybe a vulnerability spell that hasn't worn off? 16:56 It always feels like forever until they wear off for me 16:57 well, my fire resist went from 100% to 50%. Is that the vulnerability spell doing its thing? 16:57 Probably yes 16:57 Nothing can get it back to 100 until it wears off 16:58 I see. Will enlightenment show that I'm subject to the effects still? 16:58 yup 17:00 oh... back to 100%. Yay 17:01 That's not as evil as I expected. 17:01 If you manage to kill the nasties before they can take advantage of it it's not so bad 17:01 Old splice has that "devil speak" thing that strips it completely away. 17:01 It really sucks on the ascent though since there's no time to breathe 17:03 out for a bit, cya 17:03 "b - a cockatrice egg" how is it possible that I recognize a cockatrice egg? I thought you needed formal ID 17:04 unless this is bones 17:04 fingers crossed for bones! Eat it and see if it is fruit :-) 17:04 and somebody is playing silly buggers 17:04 lol 17:04 I love it 17:05 no ghost... 17:05 could be a zombie of course 17:06 that's evil to name your fruit "cockatrice egg" 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Neu) had a pair of bone gauntlets entrusted to him by Brigit, on T:63007 17:07 "You can't quite tell what's inside the egg." (stethoscope) 17:08 so really an egg 17:08 mysterious 17:09 Everyone with sac gifts is making me jealous :-) Can't find anything to kill 17:10 Well if it helps I am level 20 and got 2 useless non-artifacts in a row 17:14 Yeah, I need some useless non-artifacts. I bet my god will give me lots of cloaks 17:14 They shouldn't now, right? Since they're not usable? I think there's a check for that 17:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:16 m - a blessed fireproof +5 mummy wrapping 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gold dragon, on T:17447 17:22 Sweet 17:22 ARGH 17:22 I had polymorph control on but the curses bug fd me again 17:22 What bug is that? 17:22 Movement key exits the prompt and you get random garbage 17:22 huh 17:23 When using a number pad 17:24 It happens for all sorts of prompts -- if I'm walking around with the number pad and get hit with a random potion the key processing dismisses the prompts and pulls up an options menu 17:24 So the number pad movement key is not being processed as a single key, but two keys, with the first dismissing the prompt and the second pulling up an options menu 17:25 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 17:25 That's a real drag 17:25 I may be the only person using curses and a number pad for movement, so at least it is only a drag for me 17:25 If I wasn't tooling around at high speed it wouldn't bite me, but I always am 17:25 Yeah you play fast, I was noticing that 17:26 You are right, however, that gold dragon is a win 17:26 Yeah, I play fast and stupid :-) 17:26 lay them eggs baby! 17:26 How many before I starve myself? My food is inaccessible in a bag :-) 17:28 Weird, I can use a magic whistle as a gold dragon 17:28 Dammit if I wasn't lawful I'd go kill those minetown gits -- not invisible any more but I'm not sure they'll let me in anyway 17:30 if you're not invisible they will let you in 17:30 Welcome Madame Humongous Gold Dragon, enjoy your shopping 17:46 i got a fireproof cursed striped shirt and a wooden helm of brilliance, when i read a scroll of enchant armor while confused, will it make the helm of brilliance fooproof? 17:48 Either you get to pick or it'll pick randomly, I don't remember if the new enchant armor changes apply to confused 17:49 I think it does, but I still don't feel comfortable without stripping down to one worn item before reading. 17:50 yup you can select 17:50 Your wooden helm of brilliance is covered by a shimmering golden shield! You can't seem to think straight. 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6002 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2101 points, T:3197, killed by a piranha 17:54 is killing the oracle considered murder? 17:54 "Salutations VaderFLAG, thea chaotic male orcish Dark Knight, welcome back to 17:54 EvilHack!" tsk, someone tell the server I switched allegiances 17:57 VaderFLAG: i think it deliberately uses the original alignment when you've changed alignments 17:57 bouquet yes 17:57 It's an insult is what it is! 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:58 thanks 18:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 6612 points, T:8640, killed by a gnoll 18:06 iugh this was such as good run 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:7656 18:11 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 18:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:8250 19:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:9110 19:13 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:32 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 13534 points, T:11713, killed by a giant priestess of Grumbar 19:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6250 19:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 4604 points, T:6251, killed by Mr. Maganasipi; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 830 points, T:16569, killed by a white dragon 19:58 !lastgame Mosh 19:58 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mosh/evilhack/dumplog/1638998763.evil.html 20:00 Always big thumbs up to folks who leave #comments while they play 20:01 Fuck yes, pacifist 20:08 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 20:10 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 62 points, T:602, killed by a goblin 20:11 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 20:13 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:14 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 200 points, T:665, killed by a piranha 20:32 Hmm...how many gold dragon eggs should I lay? 20:34 Damn! I just saw how close I was to bumping rebatela from the evilhack high score 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19689 21:10 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 22:57 Noooo my gold dragon is a genetic engineer now :-( 23:09 a couple times I've tried to arrange to save --in a container-- a few surplus laid eggs 23:10 but it's tricky 23:12 (mainly tricky arrange to have hands in time) 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3373