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Dirge on the floor 07:15 oh cool it lists the poem when you look it up ! 07:15 neato 07:16 joe lol 07:16 oops. T are giant too 07:16 yeah they are lol 07:17 they're not bad to melee. just don't let them start summoning 07:17 i think they both have reflection amulets 07:17 they're kitted out. i forgot lol 07:18 might have better AC than you 07:18 this is freaking awesome haha 07:19 joe is one tough cookie 07:23 i think the other one has a BoH 07:23 The real amulet! that'll save you time :-) 07:24 haha 07:25 YANI for evilhack: When you find a bones with an artifact in it that you already have, that artifact should stay -- and you should get a message "Omigod! This is just a cheap plastic imitation!" and have your artifact demoted to a standard item 07:25 "I can't believe I thought this was the real Dragonbane!" 07:25 damn i had 6 death wands and WoW 1:2 07:26 blessed tins of spinach :-) 07:26 11 teleport wands 07:26 those some kickass bones 07:26 gonna get a cup of tea. brb 07:26 Never gonna carry half that stuff 07:30 wow these bones are loaded - if i can get to them! 07:31 and you have the one thing i need - "oMR :-) 07:31 yeah i was having quite the game apparently 07:32 where is the spectre?!? 07:32 i died right there 07:33 haha jerry with the -27ac 07:33 and the death wand 07:33 oh no!! 07:33 he's gonna make wishes 07:34 can you cast sleep? i guess reflection would block it 07:34 will he have a ring of free action like the other one? 07:34 i'm not sure 07:35 probably not unless he picked it up 07:35 i don't remember giving him one 07:35 even if he uses all wishes, i'm not losing anything 07:35 (but i often play wasted and it was a while ago ) 07:35 curious to see what he wishes for 07:36 wtf 07:36 what a dummy 07:36 oh snap! 07:36 hahaha 07:36 lol 07:36 lol 07:36 so proud of my pet 07:37 looks like he picked up your bag too... 07:37 yeah he did 07:37 jerry lives a little bit longer 07:38 grrr. Much rather fight here than on the more open level above 07:39 that bag is loaded too 07:39 i can't believe how many wands i had 07:39 come on cat, get vorpy for me.. 07:40 n - a steel long sword named Vorpal Blade \o/ 07:40 good kitty 07:41 I feel bad, my bones are almost invariably crap 07:41 i found good krm26 bones once 07:41 orcus i think 07:42 I guess when I die below the valley my bones are invariably good, since my deaths are always dumbass and I overprepare at the valley 07:42 my bones were good, but not when the pet titan can pick up the boh and wish his way away 07:42 I've only found a post-valley bones once 07:43 clever titan is over lava 07:43 The problem with those bones is that while they tend to be great they are also generally unnecessary 07:43 What you need is someone ascending who takes the stairs up but forgot about their sickness and dies with no opponents at the oracle level 07:43 hehe 07:44 yeah but you still would have to fight the ghost 07:44 No, you lure the ghost away and return for the loot 07:44 quaffed another cursed GL 07:45 lol 07:45 he's off to fight the wizard.. he's been there before 07:45 lol 07:45 next he'll step on the portal 07:47 doh. it's the middle wizards level 07:49 krm26: I'm not sure how it works, but when it's late bones like that it's a spectre and they are wearing all the gear and have bag of holding and will reach in and grab full healings and make wishes etc. 07:49 it's not just a matter of luring a ghost off a bones pile 07:49 You are raining on my parade 07:49 it's a real fight... i'm not sure why graznop didn't have to deal with it, but i guess it's because i was beheaded? 07:49 no it's fun though 07:50 I'll always be sad that I never heard back about the level 5 Yeen I left 07:50 i've had to fight my own bones a few times and i got valley bones not that long ago and it was a real battle 07:52 i even killed most of the ; for ya ! 07:53 i wonder if maybe that npc picked up eoto 07:54 Yeenoghu appears??? 07:55 that's the bs that always happens to me 07:55 i died to random baphomet last night 07:56 i'm wielding demonbane, so shouldn't be a summons 07:58 and asmo! wtf? 07:59 ah - it must be the alhoon summoning them 07:59 they were gated in while you're wielding demonbane? 07:59 ah yeah 07:59 yes both of them, but can happen 07:59 damn alhoons 08:00 that asshole dev 08:00 just summon nasties, i think 08:00 yeah 08:00 much fun though 08:01 much fun? the dev is making notes... 08:02 titans can also do that I think 08:02 in case jerry is still around 08:02 k2: you missed my titan jerry grabbing the bag of holding and wishing for cursed gain level 08:02 bounced the f out lol 08:03 god i hate alhoons 08:07 heh 08:07 thanks jerry 08:08 he has soooo much stuff in that bag 08:08 i thought it was going to wish for a figurine or something, but he knew to gtfo 08:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54084 08:09 it's in the wizards tower now 08:09 go go 08:17 the irony of getting this level with no boss because of bones and then having to deal with this 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:54115 08:18 NICE 08:18 phew 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 204 points, T:53, killed by a jackal 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 58 points, T:399, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 08:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 637 points, T:1843, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant cockroaches), on T:1573 08:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1777 points, T:2882, killed by a wand 08:45 qt, last check for your PR? any other changes need to be made? 09:01 regrouped, returned - now Baphomet has turned up. How many more demon lords are there? 09:01 inexhaustible 09:01 After a while you'll get Baphogr'zzt and Tiadeus 09:01 about a dozen or so 09:02 dont mess around with baphomet, kill him asap 09:02 butt butt butt 09:03 k2 i think it's good 09:03 the pr 09:03 ok 09:03 I kept it in the oven for a few more min 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:54520 09:04 Good job Graznop 09:04 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JMApr 09:04 [EvilHack] entrez 480644d - Make destroy armor vs mon match effect vs hero 09:04 [EvilHack] k21971 97e1976 - Merge pull request #82 from entrez/destroy_armor_spell 09:04 I really appreciate that the demon lords and princes are aggressive enough that you can kill them without being forced to go back to the stairs 09:05 something else I need to do in mcastu - get rid of all the messed up formatting that came over from grunthack 09:05 early days 09:05 I looked at all the \t while i was doing that commit and decided to leave it alone 09:05 yeah just as well. you dont want that headache 09:06 i clean it up here and there as I find it 09:06 probably best to just have a single commit that does nothing but change tabs to four spaces, and do it for the whole thing 09:06 yup 09:06 since that way people can ignore it for git blame etc 09:06 i've done commits like that for other files 09:06 krm26 i appreciate that too 09:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1054 points, T:2018, killed by a rabid rat, while praying 09:10 ...hmm, no good lawful non-weapon artifact wishes, are there? 09:11 magic mirror is reflection, telepathy, and garbage, right? 09:11 Does the mitre's half damage apply to demon princes and lords too? 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:67757 09:13 oh stupid, forgot I should have wished for a spellbook of magic mapping 09:13 if its undead or a demon, half damage 09:15 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 439 points, T:1420, killed by an iron ball collision 09:18 think I'm going to see how badly I get boned slugging it out with Vecna using Sunsword instead of Kas 09:23 sunsword is still good vs vecna 09:23 it can do some serious damage 09:23 Oh cool, I never noticed that ice you make in the valley melts over time back to water 09:24 yup. that's vanilla behavior 09:24 You know...evil and all...why is there natural health recovery ANYWHERE below the valley? 09:25 oh man... if you couldnt regen health at all in gehennom... i dont think you could survive unless you could cast healing spells 09:25 or find a ring of regen 09:25 just a thought 09:26 Does anything take out the iron bars in vecna's midlevel? 09:26 i dont think so as that level is non-diggable 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:68512 09:29 Argh, I have too many round-to-round decisions dual-wielding 2 of Xiuhcoatl, Demonbane, Frost Brand, and Sunsword in Gehennom 09:29 heh... 1st world problems 09:29 Yeah no kidding 09:30 The basic dual wielding cap for arc really hurts, especially since all the free wraiths from vecna are gone now (THANKS ME) 09:34 Sunsword with the alhoon 1-shot! Oh yeah 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5077 09:39 oh i'll just bless these spellbooks and read them. one of them should be good.-- protection, detect unseen, and cure blindness... PUKE 09:40 i want my holy water back and less clutter in my spellcasting menu 09:42 Yeah, I wish there was a way to completely forget a spell -- just for the sake of UI 09:42 On the other hand, I like having a lot so I can put the spells I want at their correct letters 09:44 heh. good point 09:44 i do the same thing with the letters 09:45 i usually sort by school 09:45 so the letters change pretty much whenever I learn a new spell lol 09:45 I'm pretty OCD with gear and spells -- always want the key, unicorn horn, extra healing spell, etc. to be in the same places 09:45 me too 09:45 I'd like those preferences to be in the nethackrc 09:46 even my armor slots i have letters for 09:46 H helm, C cloak, A armor, G gloves, T t-shirt, B boots 09:46 i do that with inventory items but since you don't have that level f control over spells, i just like them to be ordered by school i guess 09:46 mine are more arbitrary than that, but it works 09:46 omigod this last arch-lich is shy 09:47 aww, he likes you 09:47 it started because when i used to always play priest, I'd have to invoke the mitre and then I always kept my helmet in that slot 09:50 Demonbane/Sunsword makes pretty short work of pit fiends and balrogs -- never had this combo before 09:50 qt: you don't like having the spells you cast a lot be muscle memory? i wouldn't want to have to look at what letter magic missile is every time every game 09:51 or have it be some capital 09:51 well, autosorting by school magic missile is pretty much always 'b' 09:51 like krm26 said though you can't really do it until you learn a bunch of spells 09:51 the ones that really change a lot are high-level matter ones and so on, that you don't cast often 09:51 or that I don't cast often, at least 09:52 i also don't resort it that often so it kind of settles in once i learn a lot of spells 09:52 it's not constantly changing, I was exaggerating when I said that before 09:53 i didn't even know about the + thing for the longest time. it was a gamechanger when i learned about it 09:54 Didn't the vecna level's back door go away, or is it only generated some of the time? Haven't found it in a while 09:54 i think it's a % chance 09:54 of being generated 09:56 nope its always there 09:56 Hmm, maybe my stethoscope is bad 09:57 oh woops 09:57 its 50/50 09:57 i went and checked the .des file to make sure 09:57 lol i wasn't about to argue with the dev... 09:57 K2, bug report. Dual wielding Xiu/Sunsword. Throw the tethered Xiu; it comes back, I'm now no longer dual-wielding. But pressing X stops dual wielding as if I was still dual wielding 09:58 huh 09:58 vanilla never had this problem because you cant dual wield artifacts (mjollnir) 09:58 i wonder if it exists with aklys 09:58 Honestly, I kinda think you should continue dual-wielding; you don't unequip your shield when throwing an aklys 09:59 Just confusing bookkeeping that is easy to miss 09:59 in vanilla 3.6 you can dualwield, throw the aklys and you both have the 2 wielded stuff 09:59 (just wiztested) 10:00 same 10:00 hah cbus you beat me to it 10:00 :D 10:00 Also, don't get the "Sunsword stops shining message" after throwing Xiu and Sunsword switching to not wielded 10:00 Clearly some stuff thinks it is wielded and some stuff thinks it is not 10:01 OK. it IS wielded, this is a UI issue only I think 10:01 Yup, refreshing screen shows things properly -- sorry, it is a perminv update problem 10:02 K2: To clarify, this is ONLY a perminv update problem 10:02 ah 10:02 so curses 10:02 Curses! 10:03 Hah, Didn't catch Xiu, it burnt me, boiled my potion of paralysis on me 10:03 I wonder if the bug with curses and having picked up a ton of store stuff and then buy one of them still bugs in 3.7 (in 3.6 all items will get unmarked as "unpaid" in the curses item inventory, they are not free, it just displays them as yours) 10:03 dont have 3.7 locally to wiztest 10:03 I guess maybe I should compile a version of it to do that 10:05 OK, the vecna secret door is a 50% chance and I'm just unlucky 10:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1492 points, T:3671, killed by a rothe 10:07 a fair amount of work to improve curses interface has happened with 3.7 10:07 I did report a bug with it already 10:08 the bug was that if you dulled a weapon it was not updated in perminv 10:08 and it was fixed too 10:08 (very responsive team) 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:69419 10:12 Sigh, Vecna does NOT like giving me his eye 10:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:2613 10:16 it's sad that a priest can't use sunsword. the one role that should excel in fighting undead... 10:17 cbus, i'm pretty sure both of those are fixed in 3.7 10:17 well I know that the dulling is fixed, I have even tried it :) 10:18 mobileuser, a priest doesnt need sunsword to fight undead 10:18 iirc i had a PR for the shop billing thing that got merged 10:19 merged in the special patr way 10:19 The priest's best vecna weapon is a *trice corpse 10:19 Can a priest get Sunsword as a sacrifice gift? 10:19 cbus: yes https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ba7ff46b9252db3825c94407da5008d99012c1e 10:19 krm26 no 10:19 ohh thanks qt 10:19 that is awesome 10:20 K2 a priest basically only has mjollnir and demonbane 10:20 false 10:20 give me those tips :-) 10:20 if it's still in evilhack k2 could probably just apply that commit 10:20 there's also magicbane and (if neutral) they could wish up the healer quest artifact 10:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 3880 points, T:3528, killed by a hobbit 10:20 noooo that was a good run 10:20 yeah I used magicbane K2 10:20 agh 10:21 K2 the healer quest artifact is useless against undead 10:21 k2 you mean the staff of aescuplaktbaium? 10:21 I cant decide if the inventory curses ui is good or not, I do not like to maximize a terminal and I end up checking normal inventory any way because of too long names :D 10:21 undead are drain resistant 10:21 qt yeah 10:21 mobileuser no it isnt - drain res plus hungerless regen 10:21 but no bonus damage against undead! 10:21 cbus, I almost never look at inventory with perminv. Maybe your window is too small :-) 10:22 also, the sceptre of might is so underrated, its a great weapon for a lawful priest 10:22 yes for lawful 10:22 I play in hmm 121x36 :P 10:22 and I think I am growing old because I have larger font size than ever :P 10:22 i rocked that artifact twice in tnnt (caveman and lawful priest) 10:22 chaotic doesn't have those options K2 10:22 I play 160x50 I guess 10:22 mobileuser - oh well :) 10:23 Who cares? Chaotic gets the Ring of P'hul! 10:23 the value of perminv isn't just seeing what's in the inv - colouring can provide a quick check of important items being cursed 10:23 my favorite thing with perminv is for price id :P 10:23 Yeah, perminv gives lots of lich-related feedback :-) 10:23 qt is that the only curses fix I should apply to evilhack now, or are there others you think? 10:23 yeah that too, rings and armor I usually check with = and [ 10:23 Also making sure you're wearing the right stuff at the right time 10:24 my giant priest is enjoying Butcher! 10:24 ^ I am already paranoid about that with water walking boots and check with [ multiple times :P 10:24 i think this is the other issue cbus mentioned https://github.com/nethack/nethack/commit/1f9c8b8 10:24 and there's so many new awesome artifacts added to evilhack for chaotics, we're good in that regard imo 10:24 K2 compared to other roles priest should have some perks against undead, instead you're mentioning things that other roles can do too. But priest is at a disadvantage comapred to other roles. 10:24 yaeh thats the one, I reported that bug :) 10:24 got a mail during the night when I was sleeping that it was fixed 10:25 mobileuser they already do 10:25 anyway, rant over :b 10:25 ever used #turn as a high level priest? 10:25 not in gehennom 10:25 its like having a nuke 10:25 is it better in evil than vanilla? 10:25 k2 though aosdict refactored engraving so I'm not sure if that commit will apply to evilhack 10:25 AND not against alhoon / arch lich 10:25 its same 10:26 the really nasty ones just resist 10:26 it was frustrating when it turned some undead peaceful :D 10:26 I've never used #turn I think anywheere ever, I'll give that a shot some time 10:27 qt ok 10:27 i think in fiqhack, wearing the mitre allows a priest to use #turn whilst in gehennom 10:27 WHILST 10:28 that's right! 10:28 the mitre could use some perks 10:28 that's one that makes sense 10:28 ~/code/EvilHack] rg 'goto [A-z]+;' | wc -l 10:28 838 :D 10:28 do it for vanilla :P 10:29 dont have it cloned yet at least :D 10:29 All the mitre has going for it is it isn't the bow 10:29 also I wonder if that generates extra lines because of the file headers from rg 10:29 10 PRINT "HI" 20 GOTO 10 RUN 10:29 pfft 10:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55212 10:29 the mitre is a decent artifact 10:29 haters gonna hate 10:30 plus its immune to a monsters 'destroy armor' spell 10:30 Does the helm of brilliance still interfere with casting in evil? 10:30 still? it never did 10:30 hmm, it seems that if you pipe from rg it does not print the extra header line per file 10:30 If the mitre made ALL your equipped gear immune to destroy armor that would be something 10:30 Really? I wonder where that thought came from 10:31 drugs 10:31 There are a lot of drugs in me 10:31 i know :/ 10:31 i feel your pain (literally) 10:31 Another month of PT and I'm gonna try cutting back 10:32 My PT, the BITCH, is making me TURN MY HEAD like, a lot 10:32 i dont pop any pills unless the pain gets to a pojnt where i cant physically function without 10:32 I hate her so much 10:32 *point 10:32 damn, PT in pain really is annoying 10:32 PT's are bringers of pain. destroyer of worlds 10:32 my wife is a PT 10:32 haha 10:32 and a damn good one 10:32 she hurts me often 10:32 she is a good torturer 10:32 i hate her so much 10:32 s/hate/love 10:33 Although that must save a lot of copayments 10:33 should make her a funny coffee cup with PT = Physical Torturer 10:33