00:01 YANI for versions with materials: "quiver" items, either one per ammo type or acceptable ammo determined by first-inserted. Can #quiver quivers. Can pack various types of spears in your quiver and then just -f-ire them in FILO order 00:02 shot for slings, spears/javelins, arrows for bows, bolts for crossbows, maybe shuriken even 00:02 this is part of why aklyses are hot these days, right? 00:02 And of course darts 00:02 you can enchant 'em and just use 'em, unlike stacks of classic-style throwables 00:03 (this wouldn't effect any of the enchanting/fooproofing/blessing problems, which are kinda problems, but it would resolve a lot of micromanagement and inventory size bullshit) 00:04 Maybe you could have an artifact quiver whose enchantment/BUC status overrode its ammo's status 00:05 Uh oh, pumpkin time! Gnight 00:05 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 412 points, T:1924, killed by a system shock 00:15 That's strange, my quest leader just assigned me the quest at level 11 00:15 I thought you had to be 14? Must be an EH thing. 00:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 00:17 Nope 00:17 Quest is XL 10 minimum now, also ported to various other games 00:17 including vanilla iirc 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (giant mosquitos), on T:1869 00:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 514 points, T:1304, killed by a dart 00:23 I like it, I've had to waste a lot of time waiting to level in games where I couldn't get wraiths, potions, etc 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3062 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Arc Hob Fem Neu), 354 points, T:1140, killed by a dwarf lady 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4833 points, T:3778, killed by a giant spider 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Magician, on T:21779 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6809 00:37 Time to start rummaging around through some bones 00:39 Pfft. Didn't even have a courtesy to leave me a magic purse. 00:39 !lastgame Arahael 00:39 Looksfar: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1635535438.evil.html 00:41 Looksfar: I play a lot of tiny games. 00:41 Might be tricky to find the matching one if you're going that route. 00:41 Is that the bones level you're on? 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:14717 00:42 I was curious as to how you'd died, Arahael. Looks like beaten to death by an Aleax while caught in a web. 00:42 It wasn't that one in the link, no. 00:42 Ooh, that, I remember that. Sadly not the inventory, though. 00:42 But that was NOT my Aleax, so I suspect that's a double-bones. 00:42 So be warned. 00:43 Ooooh, thanks. I'll be extra careful. 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 5806 points, T:7456, killed by a yeti 00:44 I feel sorry for people who find my recent bones. Died to an alhoon in one, and an uber shambler in another. 00:44 Haha. :) 00:44 I never feel sorry, the worse the bones, the better I feel. ;) 00:45 You got some nice stuff :) 00:46 Just gotta pack it all out! 00:46 :) 00:46 Really curious how the Aleax got there. 00:46 Did you kill it? 00:47 Yes, you had quite a crowd there 00:48 My low CON and St couldn't cope. 00:50 I'm gonna explore, let's see if someone else was to blame for that Aleax 00:51 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1327 points, T:2273, killed by a soldier ant 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 137 points, T:483, killed by a piranha 00:53 :) 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15255 00:56 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 00:58 Nothing obvious, didn't find another bones 00:58 Ah well, let's see how much of this I can carry! 01:01 Curious. 01:02 You must've cleared out a jewelry store...lots of rings! 01:03 Looksfar: I generally do my damnest to find a ring of poison resistance. 01:04 An illithid would need it, for sure 01:04 So badly. 01:06 Looksfar: I probably just collected every ring including whatever I found in soko, it's surprisingly not hard to find that many rings. 01:07 What surprised me is that I'd found a fair number already, and yet every one you had was one I hadn't seen 01:07 :D 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 285 points, T:1098, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 01:13 Looksfar: If that cursed spellbook was a book I bothered to carry with my illithid carry cap, it is probably a significant one - or else I hadn't been able to read it reliably yet. 01:13 Looksfar: So if I had managed to read it and it was still being carried, it was probably magic missile or identify. 01:13 Oooh, I hope so 01:14 Here's hoping for some luck from ID scrolls 01:14 Or just bless it anyway. 01:15 That too. The helm was sure nice. 01:15 Which helm was it? 01:16 Blessed +4 mithril dwarvish 01:16 Ah, I remember that one. 01:16 That was a lucky find. 01:16 Indeed! 01:17 It was just a random helm i found on the ground. 01:17 I always prefer Stone, or Mithril. 01:18 Stone's too darn heavy usually 01:22 Yes, but until I've found Mithril, it's worth the AC. 01:23 Now if I could just scare up some decent gauntlets... 01:23 Free action + slow digestion is my favorite combo when I play monk. 01:23 Do the castle, then wish up dragonbane. 01:23 FA + SD is what I'm running. SD is a lifesaver, especially since no hungerless casting, and these giants seem to go through food faster. 01:24 Dragonbane is gauntlets in EH? Interesting. 01:24 That makes them an excellent wish then, if you don't get from sacrifice. 01:25 As a monk, they are the single best gloves you can get. 01:25 I mean, it doesn't boost your St, but your St is fine as it is. 01:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 01:25 It's ironic, but my giant monk has lower str than most of my characters 01:25 You still have 18+ 01:26 Because he can't eat giants, wraiths or royal jelly 01:26 And you can always improve that to 18/**, yeah, but you can still eat tinned spinach. 01:26 ...and tins of spinach seem scarce 01:26 That they are. :( 01:26 I think a giant can get to 25 naturally, but that assumes a lot of spinach 01:26 You're talking to someone who is usually stuck on St 10, though, and has to wish up GoP instead. 01:26 Wow, nice. 01:27 Illithids have a max st of 10, and max con of 12, which is even worse. 01:28 Yeah, con 12 is abysmal. Maybe ogresmasher could actually be useful to an Illithid? 01:28 ...assuming it still gives 25 con in this variant. 01:30 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:31 Ooh, nice, I didn't consider that. But you really want higher con in the early game, imho. 01:31 And I've never come across ogresmasher - plus it's not a skill I have. 01:32 Just a thought. Might be worth looking into. 01:32 That spellbook you were lugging around was detect monsters, btw 01:33 Bah. :( 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 11113 points, T:2296, killed by a quivering blob, while praying 01:43 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 01:47 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire mage, on T:16438 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:22847 02:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una) had a pair of cloth boots called jumping entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:35649 02:10 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 43269 points, T:17155, choked on a giant rat corpse 02:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una), 166176 points, T:36176, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 02:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10419 points, T:4967, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 02:41 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:54 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:24 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:29 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:42 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:47 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 03:47 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:18 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:23 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3909 04:52 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 05:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:15 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3574 points, T:5506, killed by a Woodland-elf 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a polished shield entrusted to him by Mog, on T:1258 05:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 112 points, T:523, killed by a water moccasin 05:41 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3312 06:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1480 points, T:2851, killed by a sewer rat, while dragging an iron ball 06:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:25 !tell VaderFLAG congrats on the 4-streak! 06:25 VaderFLAG shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, mobileuser. 06:26 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:28 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to him by Mog, on T:6495 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of stone hiking boots entrusted to him by Mog, on T:8250 07:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf mummy, on T:14801 07:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20548 points, T:18783, killed by an ape 08:16 Hecubus, my messages please! 08:16 VaderFLAG: Message from mobileuser at 2021-10-30 06:25 EDT: congrats on the 4-streak! 08:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:24 !tell VaderFLAG gratz!!!! 08:24 Will do, amateurhour! 08:30 ha 08:30 VaderFLAG: Message from amateurhour at 2021-10-30 08:24 EDT: gratz!!!! 08:31 one excalamation mark per ascension in the streak 08:31 play more to unlock a better prize 08:32 GG VaderFLAG. 08:40 Trying to decide whether to bust me streak before or after tnnt 08:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:9413 08:47 "multiple exclamation marks... the sure sign of a diseased mind" 08:52 i've never bought into that theory!!! 08:52 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 08:54 i forgot i had this game going on EU server. Started playing and immediately got a fountain wish (and even BETTER, Neferet did not come !!!) 08:54 (i'm gonna do the exclamation point thing all day now) 08:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5182 09:02 !!!! 09:10 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8154 points, T:8202, killed by a soldier ant 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:28180 10:01 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:01 Well ffffffffffffff me 10:01 So I guess now I know not to put Magicbane into a bag of holding 10:02 :V 10:04 rip 10:05 That is frustrating, that Magicbane was the lynchpin of this crappy archeologist 10:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:12306 10:14 :/ 10:14 krm26 i thought you knew about magicbane and boh 10:14 As did I 10:14 Well I do now :-) 10:14 It makes perfect sense, I like it 10:15 10% chance 10:15 (although not this particular instance) 10:15 Sad that my one artifact game is now a zero artifact game 10:15 About the same as the cancel effect triggering, iirc? 10:15 Now I'm grateful that zombie ate my quarterstaff skill earlier 10:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 24138 points, T:12623, killed by an energy vortex 10:21 Oh I guess I have a vorpal blade I can't get skill in that a goblin tried to kill me with 10:22 Just get gifted a long sword ez 10:22 Also the warning of J can actually come in handy I'd think 10:22 Snarks and boojums are the only non-dragon source of disint. res IIRC? 10:22 Also vorpal jabs just suck 10:22 If I manage to get long sword unlocked it will presumably be with Sunsword since I'm lawful, and in that case I'll use Sunsword because it is awesome 10:23 I kinda feel that random artifact trash weapons should unlock basic in their skill when you find them for everyone 10:24 (not when you wish for them) 10:24 Would effect a very small number of games meaningfully 10:24 But when it did it would change "FUCK, an artifact" to a different reaction 10:28 I also think reading a scroll of fire inside an engulfer who is not fire-immune should instagib them 10:35 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5623 10:35 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:38 -!- Guest5623 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:43 Here's a slight quality of life improvement -- AFTER you have blown up a bag of holding with a type of item, you get a confirmation the next time you try to insert that same item. So at most you could blow up one bag with a boh, one with a bot, one with a /oc (And maybe one with magicbane :-) each game without a confirmation prompt. (I mean, you could still nest those items I guess) 10:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 537 points, T:1378, killed by a flint stone 10:52 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4567 11:13 Congratulations, here is your Dirge, and here is your vrock who will paralyze you and beat you down to 7hp 11:14 Oh wait, you still get the demon 11:14 That's fucked lmao 11:16 I was certain it was gonna kill me 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:12681 11:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 341 points, T:1160, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 11:25 aw krm26 left 11:25 i actually had an idea about magicbane boh 11:26 when you put it in, it 'unexpectedly vibrates' 11:26 a heads up that maybe you shouldnt do that 11:27 And then when you take it OUT, it explodes 11:28 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 11:29 lol 11:29 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 11:29 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:29 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2581 points, T:2009, killed by a rock gnome 11:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:43 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 11:47 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:15399 11:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:02 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:24 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Giant_(starting_race) How's this look? 12:24 krm26: Added at your suggestion 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a silver scimitar entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:32590 12:32 Umbire: That is amazeballs 12:33 iunno, that silver scim ain't lookin' too bad 12:33 The page was already up, just had to learn table formatting real quick to add shopkeep stuff 12:36 To perfect it I would eliminate blank columns (implied everything else is *1) and the first column (we know it is a giant because of the page we're on :-) -- also I think "*3/2 (Int ≤14)" is easier to read 12:36 Might as well use ≤ and ≥ 12:36 Since you are already using the nasty cross product multiplication sign of evil 12:37 Thanks for doing that, sweet addition 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a spear entrusted to him by Mog, on T:18283 12:41 "implied everything else is *1" is why I left them blank 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7062 12:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:49 But yeah, it'll be easier to copy the matrix stuff from the main EvilHack page to other pages 12:49 I also didn't use those symbols since I couldn't be bothered to copy/type them the first time around 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8741 13:07 krm26: Probably gonna fill in the blanks with "x1" and then swap those signs for readability 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:23279 13:23 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law), 88 points, T:613, killed by Mr. Demirci; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 13:48 nice work on the giant page, Umbire 13:48 as a giant aficionado I will see if I can add anything 13:49 Pls do 13:49 would appreciate it 13:54 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3069 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 979 points, T:2978, killed by a giant ant 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 367 points, T:1982, killed by a giant bat 14:16 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 14:17 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 14:28 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law), 956 points, T:3111, killed by a giant ant 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4514 points, T:4239, quit 15:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Pawn, on T:23605 15:10 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:13 Alas, poor Tinklebear...we hardly knew ye. 15:24 !lastgame tinklebear 15:24 Looksfar: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1635463462.evil.html 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3106 15:36 Hmm, is there a change to unicorn horns in EH? Mine was blessed, I haven't fought any cursing monsters, but I now notice it's just uncursed. 15:37 Maybe I just missed something somewhere along the line. 15:37 No change that I'm aware of 15:38 Thanks, VaderFLAG. I probably just missed a message about it in the middle of a big fight. 15:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (energy vortices), on T:3639 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:3694 15:43 that wouldn't normally be my first genocide except I realized it was my bones level and i wanted the eye back! 15:45 goddamn and now i'm gonna die because a door i had already closed and locked is now booby trapped? 15:45 wtf is that about? 15:45 Those energy vortices can be nasty if you're not shock resistant 15:45 i guess it only happens when opened 15:46 now the watch is angry because guard was near the temple door. F 15:46 I think if you lock a door when a guard is watching, it gets auto-trapped 15:46 You have to remember to untrap it 15:46 unbelievable 15:47 In fact I'm certain that's what happens 15:47 i'm still stunned no unihorn.. i prayed but didn't help. i'm all done 15:47 that's BS. I've never heard of that 15:47 i mean, i believe you 15:47 i just think it's ridiculous and don't feel so bad anymore 15:47 I know. Sucks if it's gonna cost you a run 15:48 well, it's worse than that... i had wished for eota in my last game and got killed by that energy vortex 15:48 just got payback and got it back 15:48 lol 15:48 oh well 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5327 points, T:4005, killed by an elven watchman 15:48 Aw man, that really does suck 15:48 RIP :( 15:48 eh whatever 15:48 good to know about not locking doors in front of guards 15:48 i had never known that 15:48 horrible way to learn 15:48 yeah, vanilla thing :-( 15:49 If they say "Hey, stop messing with that door!" or something like that, just remember to untrap it first. 15:49 yeah i didn't see the message 15:49 Or just wait a few turns 15:49 i just can't believe i've never noticed that before 15:49 As long as you don't immediately go at it again when they tell you to stop, you'll be fine 15:49 Even if the door explodes 15:49 Or untrap it first 15:50 Say, does naming Sting/Orcrist count as an artifact wish? 15:50 what is the logic behind that though? i mean.. I thought they just attacked you when you got warned 15:50 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:50 not in evil looksfar 15:50 I was wondering, since those elves appear afterwards 15:50 in vanilla it counts towards it 15:50 oh 15:51 maybe it does then 15:51 hmmmm 15:51 Yeah, don't know if it's intended or not 15:51 i really don't think so. i could very well be wrong though 15:51 I've never named sting 15:51 But it makes me wonder 15:51 it's new to this version where only wished for artifacts count 15:51 used to be any artifact you saw counted (like vanilla) 15:52 If I catch Kaytoo on later I'll ask, that would be worth putting on the wiki if so 15:52 That lock-now-trapped door thing got me a few times in minetown too 15:52 how does the door become trapped ? 15:52 i mean, physically how does that even happen? 15:52 Maaaaaagic 15:52 i know it's a game and all. but i had just used the door 15:54 Yeah that was my reaction too 15:54 It was ALWAYS trapped, the trap just wasn't enabled until you locked it? 15:55 total bs lol 15:55 found it on the wiki 15:56 "Getting warned will also cause the door to become trapped." 15:56 Yep 15:56 Now this: 15:56 yeah... well i missed the message. that's my own fault 15:56 "This is because NetHack stores the data "the player has been warned about this door" and "this door is booby trapped" in the same piece of memory; the developers made some notes in the code regarding the problem." 15:56 omg! 15:56 lol 15:56 pfffft 15:56 so there is no logic too it of course 15:56 That's not a bug, that's a feature! 15:57 haha! 15:57 now i REALLY don't feel so bad lol 15:57 althogh I never would have messed with the door right after getting warned anyway... would have eye'd out of there 15:57 just missed the message that when he yelled at me 15:58 Hmm, my monster generation rate is 2.0x 15:58 How did I manage that? 15:58 I'm only level 12 15:59 If you entered the quest "early" I think that might do it? 15:59 did you enter quest early? 16:00 that's the tradeoff if you don't wait til 14 16:00 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 16:00 I guess so. I didn't mean to, he just started talking to me and started it 16:01 Have to remember not to get near QL until I'm ready, I didn't realize that would happen 16:01 well, you ARE playing unspoiled 16:01 i've had to bite my lip a few times not telling you stuff 16:01 bite my fingers? 16:01 Not complaining :) Just finding out the hard way usually and coming here to confirm. 16:02 Bite your toes 16:02 Found Ludios a while ago and was clearing it out when I discovered that reflection doesn't stop a wand of death any more 16:02 well, you don't die 16:02 That could've been fatal as I was in a hallway, but I got away only losing about 12 max HP 16:02 magic resistance doesn't fully stop it either 16:03 But Ludios is off-limits for now, because that stupid guard is waiting for me at the end of the hallway 16:03 I can just imagine him cackling and waiting for me to show myself 16:03 Little bugger 16:03 Can't wait to boot him to the head 16:04 tongue 16:04 i was so psyched to have the eota without having had used an artifact wish (unlike the bones game) so i would have been guaranteed another wish 16:04 Pretty sure it's toe. 16:04 oh yeah bite my tongue is the expression 16:04 lol 16:05 From now on it's toe :b 16:05 lol 16:05 In honor of VaderFLAG, from now on it's toes 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish long sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:13448 16:19 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Zoom zoom!] 16:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 484 points, T:910, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:28 !setmintc 3000 16:28 rebatela: [hdf-eu][hdf-au][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for rebatela set to 3000 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had an axe entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:14810 16:49 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 7086 points, T:4009, killed by Ms. Pakka Pakka; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 17:06 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 17:46 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had a copper visored helmet entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:16591 17:51 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Arc Hob Fem Neu), 547 points, T:1108, killed by a rothe 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Arc Hob Fem Neu), 1085 points, T:1432, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 406 points, T:552, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 9 points, T:202, killed by a water demon 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 601 points, T:2290, killed by a rothe 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19062 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Con Orc Mal Cha), 36 points, T:252, killed by trying to drink molten lava 18:18 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest387 18:30 -!- Guest387 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 18:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:1855 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3047 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3177 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2003 points, T:3510, killed by a horse 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4269 19:02 oh nice... they got the eye bones 19:02 too bad they're not neutral :( 19:03 that would get me to convert lol 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 7804 points, T:4442, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1799 points, T:2266, killed by a gold golem 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1186 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 4967 points, T:1188, quit 19:22 hmmm so if you find a QA in bones of a different alignment does it get changed to the base item? ohhhi see he was a wizard. that's why 19:23 that's too bad because now if that game left bones it will just be esp 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1361 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 3761 points, T:1362, quit 19:26 Last I checkes QAs are their default alignment when found in bones 19:27 They only change when gifted to a "cross-aligned" role that it's guaranteed for 19:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 924 points, T:646, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 2896 points, T:3093, killed by a fire elemental of Mog, while fainted from lack of food 19:38 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 19:39 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2722 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3457 points, T:3090, killed by an owlbear 20:00 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 727 points, T:1743, killed by a piranha 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:36994 20:36 Hey, a random crap gift I actually kinda want 20:36 Who'da thunk 20:47 Hmm, cursed /ofPoly could randomize materials of objects with materials instead of doing a real item polymorph (I guess including normal corpse poly but not tins), leaving items without materials unchanged (but possibly shuddering them as normal) 20:47 Says the player with a whole bunch of unstackable spears 20:50 Man I wish I had a stack of bone dwarvish spears. Spears are TOO heavy 20:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 7467 points, T:2614, killed by a vampire bat 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 38328 points, T:25232, killed by a wraith, while praying 21:15 !lastgame ligang 21:15 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/ligang/evilhack/dumplog/1635585492.evil.html 21:17 That's a weirdly stunted 25k turn character 21:17 Must have camped the crap out of an early altar 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 904 points, T:2567, killed by an elf zombie 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 617 points, T:1633, killed by an enormous rat 21:34 Man, early wizard bones are the BEST...love those cursed CoMR 21:36 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 915 points, T:2365, killed by a carnivorous ape 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1001 points, T:1842, killed by a giant mimic 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:43, killed by a boulder 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 156 points, T:705, killed by an electric shock 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law), 279746 points, T:41140, killed by the Minion of Huhetotl 22:25 Wow, one-shot me 22:25 Least I'm ready for the tournament in time! 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 214 points, T:1037, killed by a bolt of fire 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 101 points, T:351, killed by a fox 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1784 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2517 23:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 23:46 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5887 23:56 Named coyotes in soko? Is that normal? 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a robe entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:6786 23:56 > coyote - Eatibus Almost Anythingus