00:01 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a black unicorn, on T:14269 00:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1103 points, T:1840, killed by a mountain centaur 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14649 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:15325 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13317 01:22 oh hell yeah looksfar playing giant monk. that's my favorite 01:23 I took one up at your suggestion 01:23 those staffs are actually pretty huge since no robe 01:23 He's also avoiding spoilers so keep that in mind 01:23 But yeah, Giant Monk is the Cool 01:23 Was rocking and rolling right up 'til the point that I ran into an elf with a /oPoly 01:24 you're spoiled vanilla wise though right? 01:24 i won't say nothing. boulders can be fun. i don't think that's spoiling anything. but use your imagination lol 01:24 Turned me into a newt or something, all my gear hit the floor, he zapped me again...poof goes the gear 01:24 yeah getting zapped with poly SUCKS 01:25 the worst is it if it happens standing on your stash. be careful 01:25 Pretty much had to start over. Got zapped a third time and turned back into giant, but lost 2 levels 01:25 yeah it really is a bummer before you have magic resistaance. not a whole lot you can do 01:25 that's pretty rare though 01:25 MR is gonna be tough until I can wish I guess 01:26 it won't happen much. that's basically the worst thing that can randomly happen to you and it's pretty rare 01:26 And yes, I'm thoroughly vanilla spoiled 01:26 i need mr in my game as well 01:26 I seem to hear "that's the worst thing that could've happened" a lot 01:27 hehe 01:27 My first giant was doing even better than this one, but ran into some shambling thing that had the attacks of a minotaur, scorpion, master mind flayer and genetic engineer, with teh speed of an air elemental 01:27 That did not end well 01:28 So rebatela, you're a giant expert. How do you deal with shops if you're invisible? I stepped on a trap that turned me invisible, and of course can't wear a mummy wrap. 01:28 giants have their challenges too. you have a lot less options for reflection/mr 01:28 i'm no expert! 01:29 yeah. that sucks if you turn invisible early on because obviously can't wear mummy wrap 01:29 teleport in 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:16050 01:29 get teleport control 01:29 or turn visible again 01:30 Well, that's not a big help. At least it's my first artifact result 01:30 i hate those traps. you lose see invisbile eventually (which really sucks) 01:30 Orcrist that is 01:30 the good thing is that getting artifacts that way no longer counts against wishing for them (if that's your bag) 01:30 I guess since I'm chaotic it respects artifact rules 01:31 Yes, sacrificing is a good deal now 01:33 Expert or not I could use some help fleshing out the giant strategy section 01:34 i died witht he amulet becuase rodney stole eyes of the overworld and i couldn't see vorpal jabberwock around the corner. it didn't bother me at the time, but now i'm pissed and want revenge 01:34 for the wiki? 01:34 Mhm. Also wait, doesn't naming Sting/Orcrist not count against artiwishes either? 01:35 yeah only wishes count 01:38 the thing about giants is that i usually wish for a quest artifact. some people are vehemently opposed to doing so. i mean, i do it playing human too. But with giant, wishing for pyec for ex. gives you mr. but you can't wear a cloak like other roles or gdsm 01:38 ...so you're saying chaotics/elves especially can force Stormbringer and wish for other stuff... 01:38 ...I wonder if a speedrun's possible after all 🤔 01:39 evilhack makes it fair because SPOILER ALERT the owner might come 01:41 it really sucks when you turn invisible early on, looksfar. not gonna lie. epsecially for price id. i got lucky and found spellbook of identify early on in my game (plus i'm not a giant anyway so could wear mummy wrap) 01:41 Yeah, I'm amassing a pile o' crap I can't ID right now 01:41 but yeah.. the only thing i've found to do if you're trying to price id is teleport in or try to become visible again 01:43 I managed to forget I had a pick in my hand earlier so weaponless conduct is out the window 01:43 I might play around with some of these weapons I've been gifted 01:44 Anyhow, off to bed folks. Take care! 01:44 hehe welcome to my world... i try to play weaponless every game, but usually break the conduct accidnetally with pickaxe 01:44 sometimes i get it 01:44 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Night night!] 01:44 i've already broken it this game too 01:45 night (he's gone) talking to myself 01:47 lemme think about giant strategy umbire. i'll let ya know if i think of anything. that's really cool that you're working on this stuff. i didn't realize it. props 01:48 i wish i had better advice about price id'ing when invisible giant. it blows! lol. sometimes i quit. didn't want to tell him that ! 01:50 I've always been working on that kinda stuff rebatela 01:50 very cool :) 01:50 Also yeah that blows lmao 01:51 i'm psyched i found identify so early. i can just kill all the shopkeepers... 01:51 magic missile too. i know sleep/mm/identify. i should be able to cruise. i just badly need magic resistance 01:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:04 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:06 umbire: how about a warning that far travel will walk you through shallow water and rust your boots? I've complained about it endlessly. no one cares. i guess i'm the only one who travels that way 02:06 it only happens in certain situations. qt has looked at it actually and understands when it happens. it's related to corners or something 02:07 So you're saying it's a corner cae. 02:07 case* 02:08 i'm not sure... it just doesn't ALWAYS hapen 02:08 Interesting in any case 02:09 but in the mines it will walk you through a puddle on a level already mapped out if you try to - to the stairs (sometimes) 02:09 It feels like a case where a warning would be cool, think it even happened to me once 02:09 i mean, in my eyes that's like walking into a known trap and should be a bug 02:09 Of course I try to move away from metal boots for various reasons regardless 02:09 Yeah, I can see that logic 02:13 the solution is just to upgrade to mithril boots or whatever. it's not really a big deal 02:13 Ye 02:13 but i mean, it would never walk you into deep water. not sure why it will let you go through puddles 02:13 I prefer mithril boots anyway 02:14 No no, you're right about that 02:19 Vanilla doesn't have shallow water like that but some variants do 02:19 Even then I tend to want jackboots at a minimum, both for the AC and so I don't have to deal with fucking 02:19 rust monsters 02:20 don't really put it in the wiki lol. i'm just whining about my boots rusting 02:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:26 hi elenmirie 02:26 o/ 02:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:39 hi mobileuser 02:39 i'm going to say hi to everyone as they join until it becomes annoying (ok i think i'm done) 02:40 europeans all waking up 02:40 !coffee 02:40 * Hecubus_ pours rebatela a mug of cafe latte, fermented by FCCBot at 103 degrees Fahrenheit. 02:40 !booze 02:40 * Hecubus_ throws rebatela a tumbler of the hooch, conjured by TheresaMayBot at 46 degrees Fahrenheit. 02:41 my boots got rusted by a puddle, mobileuser. and i'm quitting evilhack forever 02:43 lol I was reading the backscroll rebatela 02:44 I wasn't gonna put in on the wiki lol 02:44 Hi elenmirie and mobileuser 02:44 "sometimes i quit. didn't want to tell him that ! " haha! 02:44 oh man it's true... turning invisible early game as a giant can really suck 02:45 yeah, it's just 1 of those things you have to suck up as giant 02:45 yep 02:45 ragequit because you stepped in a puddle? lol 02:45 oh i havent quit (yet) 02:46 and tbf THE GAME stepped in the puddle. not me 02:47 Yeah there's a whole thing rebatela discovered 02:47 Where far travel to like, stairs in the Mines for instance, takes you through shallow water and rusts your boots if they're iron 02:48 it doesn't always happen. like it won't take a straight line through a puddle for fun. But it happens 02:49 I made a quip about corner cases but yeah 02:50 It's easily "fixed" on the player's part but at the same time it seems quite silly that it can do that 02:50 qt actually looked into it and i think understood why it happens etc. 02:50 i'm not crazy at least... k2 thinks i'm crazy (he's right) 02:51 but my boots are rusty and all I did was try to travel to the stairs 02:51 maybe if there was paranoid puddle, i'd turn it on... 02:52 lol 02:52 I should return to my Evil game 02:52 I want to resume THEM too but the game has seriously slowed down for me 02:52 slashthem? 02:52 so many fucking explosives to clean up, then I gotta sort out good firearms, collect bullets... 02:52 Yeah 02:52 i need to play 02:52 Have a Dop tourist on the quest 02:52 so many variants i want to play 02:53 They have playable giants too 02:53 well i know monk is kickass is slsashem. i'm definitely missing out. just wish it was maintained 02:54 oh, yeah, I understand what you're saying. I usually take off metal boots for watery mine levels 02:54 but it's not like i typo'd. I'm talking about far traveling with _ to the stairs 02:54 it takes you through the puddles sometimes 02:55 i think corners ARE involved lol, although the corner cases joke went over my head (not a programmer/engineer) 02:56 SLASH'EM's still getting QoL fixes here and there 02:56 rebatela: heh 02:56 THEM is getting updates too, there's a lot more artifacts now 02:57 Which is probably bad for you 02:57 But then again most of the ones I've encountered were explicitly sac gifts 02:57 A lot of them also "suck" in the sense that they're at least decent as first gifts, but the returns diminish the further in you get 03:00 rebatela: yes, I understand that, it considers shallow water squares "safe" and routes you through them even if you are wearing non-waterproof boots 03:00 oh ok. so it's intended 03:00 that's fine (i guess) 03:00 I don't know about intent 03:00 that's just what it seems to do 03:00 i'll just get better boots (the obvious solution) 03:01 yeah 03:03 generally my first wish is dragonhide speed boots, but if wishes were horses beggars blah whatever. wishes are rare 03:05 I'm playing unnethack at the moment, where wishes for magical items are only possible with the WoW 03:05 Imagine that for evilhack ;-) 03:05 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:05 yeah i don't like that at all 03:06 i don't like the wand wresting stuff either which i think came from there 03:07 I don't mind that so much 03:07 Yeah the Un wishing changes do blow a lil', but a lot of the mundane wishes are actually p. cool 03:08 Athames are p. baller since Un still uses 3.4.3 rules if I recall 03:08 (specifically for Elbereth and the like) 03:08 yeah i mean with the WoW i just have accepted that it's one less wish, but it's annoying in general 03:09 plus Un has the black market 03:09 someone needs to find my bones if they left them... can they leave them on a demon level where the demons been killed? It was grazt ? 03:10 yeah they can 03:10 being that deep normally it should leave bones i think or the odds are really good 03:10 oh cool 03:10 VaderFLAG was hoping for them, I'm sure he will try again soon ;-) 03:11 yeah he didn't get them lol 03:11 i was hoping he would.. wanted to watch the fight lol 03:11 hoping the spectre wishes up some archons to go with the titans and vampire mage 03:13 you ever find deep bones like that mobileuser? where the spectre puts up a fight? 03:14 I have found deep bones, but I can't really remember epic spectre fights 03:16 rebatela slashem is at least getting crashes fixed but if you're after new content then slashthem is the way forward probably 03:16 it has a lot more stuff than slashem but it feels basically the same 03:17 oh cool... it wasn't content so much that i meant. it's when i feel like i'm playing 3.43 (or earlier) and i'm not used to it 03:17 little things.. i really don't know what i'm talking about. it's 3am here 03:17 haha there's some little things I miss too, like naming things on the floor, and autopickup not picking up shop items 03:18 in 343 variants I mean 03:18 yeah that's exactly what i meant 03:18 naming things on the floor lol 03:18 sounds dumb, but what a QOL improvement... 03:18 not being able to use ; with o or m really sucks in 3.4.3 03:19 autounlock as well, I like that 03:20 me too 03:20 but in a way it's bad habit to bump into doors before you have a unlocking device. it abuses wisdom 03:21 like when it tells you the door is locked. you can do it once. but if you do it again it abuses it. 03:22 I think that just applies to actual bumping? 03:22 As opposed to simply failing to open it 03:22 iono 03:22 i think it's when it tells you the door is locked 03:22 i could be wrong 03:23 like if you keep bumping into it 03:23 not a wall. just locked doors 03:23 you used to have to type o-direction 03:23 Yeah I don't think that's the case? 03:24 No that still is, I think 03:24 But the wisdom abuse doesn't happen that I'm aware of 03:24 hmmm maybe i imagined this 03:25 weird 03:25 well that changes EVERYTHING 03:25 i'm going to bump into a lot more doors now 03:27 why the heck did i think that? i must have read it somewhere, but i'm clearly wrong 03:30 I mean iunno for sure but my inclination is that's not the case 03:30 Were you fumbling at the time? 03:30 no i'm just insane 03:30 so strange. i must be thinking of something else 03:31 I think I read that somewhere too 03:31 I remember that if dex < 10, you would bumble into closed doors a lot 03:32 So I just kicked them all :-) 03:38 Possibly 03:39 wiki door article confirms 03:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:25 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 04:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 621 points, T:1259, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 05:17 Woah. *punished*. 05:18 Not long ot live, though. 05:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1201 points, T:3028, killed by a water moccasin 06:48 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:7611 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 14942 points, T:8098, killed by a giant centipede 07:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 944 points, T:2453, killed by an Uruk-hai 07:55 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1737 08:01 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 08:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2275 points, T:2740, killed by an elder pseudodragon 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a saber entrusted to him by Mog, on T:25405 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a throwing spear entrusted to him by Mog, on T:28423 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of boots called jungle lev/fum entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:13979 09:01 they were "lev" fortunatelly 09:01 ya never know with that silly chih sung-tzu 09:02 lol 09:03 I actually forget when the whole "gifts that fucked you over" thing got fixed 09:06 oh wow fireproof +5 "lev" boots. i guess we'll be levitating... 09:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Tou Hob Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3800 09:08 Yeah sac gift armor is p. well enchanted and proofed 09:08 Leviboots kinda suck for regular use as a monk tho 09:08 + 09:09 yeah i don't recall ever using them 09:09 Now THAT's a flying kick! 09:09 i mean, in a pinch i guess before the ring. but even in vanilla it's not something that would ever be part of a kit 09:10 gonna wear them now for the ac lol. my boots got rusty remember? 09:11 some variants replace levi boots with boots of flying 09:11 if i can somehow get my ac/hp up enough to do quest i'll have mr and be well on my way 09:11 so there's something worth using nonironically other than speed boots 09:11 amateurhour: yeah that sounds great. LOVE flying! 09:15 i don't think i can handle xorns/earth elementals yet... and lately there's been freaking water elementals in the quest 09:16 the monk quest SUCKS 09:16 yeah don't get me started 09:16 lol 09:17 i want the eyes though. fucking rodney stole them ruined my game. payback time. rest of the quest is garbage 09:20 vaderflag is trying to get to those bones again, but i'm gonna beat him 09:21 I think I have bones off 09:21 oh man... i would change that. bones in evil are fun imo 09:21 and it doesn't mess with wishing anymore (like if you find Sting ) 09:23 I'm surprised you like that change haha, usually when I suggest stuff like that you hate it 09:23 when they're deep like that though it's crazy cuz you gotta fight the spectre who will go into its BoH and drink full healings/make wishes etc. 09:23 I wish we could wish for lifestealer to make vlad easier, not that anyone would actually do that I guess 09:23 because wishes are kind of needed for the asc kit 09:23 also had crazy pets with me 09:26 i guess it's a fair tradeoff. Instead of Graz't or demogorgon or whatever you get rebatela ghost, 2 titans and a vampire mage all with gear 09:28 i think i had some good stuff on me too. i hope someone gets it just because i want to see what my pets do lol. i think my strat would be to try to tame titans asap and get them on my side 09:29 oh and vaderflag is palying neutral so he'll be able to use eota (and the other eyes if able to find) 09:29 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:29 I dunno, I have a very bad feeling about this rogue 09:29 Imminent doom 09:30 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1633867424.evil.txt 09:30 I mean levi boots are fine, just that you know, the kicking thing is something you're gonna be doing often as a monk 09:31 And generally you'll mostly be wearing them for a floor or two if you're heading deeper into the dungeon 09:31 heh. well it's not like they're cursed 09:31 I mean most of this is a personal problem more than anything else 09:32 like if I have a +5 pair of boots I'm gonna wanna keep 'em on 09:32 I think if I manage to get an early wish I'll wish for p'hul rather than dragonbane and do boring altar farming to try get dragonbane 09:32 i tried get dbane thta way in the 95k turn game i just posted... no dice 09:33 and then die anyway and regret doing boring grinding 09:33 i've never gotten it from sacrificing 09:33 just be careful wishing for p'hul. I mean, it's tempting... 50/50 chance 09:33 you get it or you get smoked... 09:34 is the barb leader that strong? 09:34 i think it's pelias? 09:34 something like that 09:34 yeah 09:34 yeah 09:34 @e?pelias 09:34 Pelias (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d10 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 09:34 only physical attacks 09:34 messed me up 09:34 boulder fort as giant I guess 09:34 drank a speed potion and that got a bunch of turns in before i could even do anything 09:35 maybe he's not that bad 09:35 lol 90% MR 09:35 neferet is the worst... and has the best artifact 09:37 ring of p'hul is great though 09:39 i think it was graznop that had a good strategy regarding prepping for the QA owner coming. I kinda don't want to say it on here lol! 09:39 i 09:39 c 09:39 e 09:39 ...so drowning. 09:39 yep 09:39 Yep, want to do it again soon! 09:39 freaking genius 09:40 It's funny thought because the one leader that wouldn't work on has the artifact you're least likely to wish up 09:40 a funny thought* 09:40 -!- Looksfar has joined #evilhack 09:41 the catch there is actually being in such a position to begin with 09:41 Got a 0:1 castle wand and haven't found charging yet - keep putting off things because I know I'll find charging soon.... 09:42 Have you faced any Infidels? 09:42 Or found their bones or what have you 09:43 Me? I've come across a few infidel pms. Good source of unholy water 09:43 yeah don't blow the wish on charging 09:43 But not in this game - good idea though 09:43 Trying to think if they'd have charging scrolls or not 09:44 you have polymorph ? 09:44 No poly yet either 09:44 mayble you'll find it in the valley (charging) 09:44 Staff of matter in case I find the spellbook 09:44 oh nice 09:44 dude that staff of matter is HUGE for a giant 09:45 Valley next stop. Why staff so good? 09:45 you can cast poly/reflection/cancel.. i mean, it's great for anyone but for not being able to wear robe it's great 09:45 Aah - reflection 09:45 i love casting polymorph. i guess that's why cherish that staff 09:48 yeah reflection stacks similar to haste self. If you have eota you can just cast it a zillion times and have reflection for the game basically. that's what i was doing in the game i got vorpal'd 09:50 maybe YOU'LL find my bones ! oh man. i really hope it left them. It will be a showdown 09:51 i think that deep it's almost guaranteed (not sure how it works actually) 09:51 dig for bones 09:55 Not sure I actually want them bones! 09:57 ~91% chance of leaving bones on level 43. 1 in 3 chance of getting them? 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 879 points, T:3926, killed by a pony 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:30543 10:17 ugh gain ability is milky. that's literally the first time i've ever notice getting the ghost from a potion 10:17 and you don't get the effects. sucks 10:17 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:17 i was just so confused as to what happened 10:18 Yep 10:19 i didn't realize that those hobbit pickpockets can sometimes have a boh.... i assumed it was always a sack and had named my bag sack (turns out it was boh) 10:21 maybe if i play REALLLY carefully i can do the monk quest with 67 hp and -8 ac? 10:22 you could be it'd be really unfun stair dancing 10:22 if i knew extra healing or even healing maybe i'd risk it, but those earth elementals are too much 10:22 hard enough to do that in vanilla imo 10:22 yeah 10:23 i mean, i do it all the time when i'm just a little more beefed up 10:23 and it's close 10:23 f xorns f elementals 10:23 f that whole quest 10:23 TRUE 10:23 hehe you understand 10:23 it's 'fine' in slashem because you demolish the xorns and earth elementals 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 988 points, T:2677, zombified by a diseased elf corpse 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3524 10:25 yeah, i mean grand master in evil you do a lot of damage. a lot of times you just kill the earth eelemtnals no prob. but when you get engulfed they start doing serious dmg 10:25 if i could heal myself i'd risk it 10:28 Yeah, with Evil you don't have tech but you do have comparable tools 10:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 4336 points, T:6472, killed by a shattered potion 10:32 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 10:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3977 points, T:6694, killed by an earth elemental of Grumbar 10:37 What's the demon-summoning "thou shalt pay for thine indiscretion" spell called? 10:38 this yellow @ is casting at me out of line of sight 10:38 summoning insects and such 10:39 summon elemental I think for that 10:40 it's CLC_SUMMON_ELM in the code but it doesn't seem to be exclusively elementals summoned, whack 10:40 multiple walls in between us... do they do this if they have telepathy? 10:43 i was anti-curses for so long, but now i get annoyed when trying to watch someones game and they are sticking with tty... 10:43 Sounds like a clerical spell, which, yeah 10:44 sometimes i hit printscr so i take a screenshot when you check your inventory quick 10:44 Normally clerical casters need line-of-sight for that, but if you're both telepathic... 10:47 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 10:48 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2858 points, T:3668, zombified by an elf zombie, while praying 10:55 lol tty 4 life 10:56 yeah i was too... but now i do the curses thing. but for WATCHING a game it's so much better because you can see what gear they have 10:57 * rebatela is a nethack voyeur 10:58 whenever i'm not playing i'm creeping on one of y'all so turn curses on. thx 10:59 haha I totally agree, curses is much nicer for watching 10:59 I tried playing with it once thinking it would be amazing 10:59 Too old and set in my ways 10:59 I play slow enough that you have plenty of time to see my inventory ;-) 11:00 I switched to curses after 20 years. It is nice 11:00 lol mobileuser 11:01 and yeah.. trust me, i'm old school too. it took forever for me to come around, but now i dig it (curses) 11:01 i stole graznops setting without the borders... 11:03 can you wish for a hawaiian shirt with a specific motif? 11:03 i saw the qdb with the jellyfish one and i want it 11:04 i talked to someone a long time ago on nao i think that said they kept like 4 monitors open and one was just set to the dgl menu so they could see how many people (usually 0 obviously) were watching them 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3899 points, T:5235, killed by a gnomish wizard 11:05 watching other people play nethack seems like the lamest thing in the world, but i've learned lots and lots of stuff that way 11:05 life skills 11:06 plenty of people in here spectate I'm sure 11:06 also uhhhhhh, I think that was being discussed NetSysFire? 11:06 but I don't think it's possible yet 11:10 i dunno i didnt grep the irc logs 11:13 vaderflag is in ludios but i have no idea what he's wearing 11:14 does he have reflection? magic resistancer? it's a mystery! 11:16 The first two soldiers I met in ludios BOTH had death rays 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 435 points, T:1407, zombified by a gnome zombie, while helpless 11:16 i try to sleep them immediately when that happens (if they're not elves) 11:17 Yeah me too, but no sleep wands found yet -- they killed themselves on the reflect fortunately 11:17 but if you survicve that;s a good thing, right? i mean, two death wands.. 11:17 yes but can't afford the drain this early though 11:17 right 11:19 Watching other people here has taught me so much 11:20 What's the weirdest thing you learned? 11:21 Dunno about weirdest, but best was snapping teleport wands to scatter stuff 11:21 ugh, doing that killed me once on astral when I forgot famine's corpse was adjacent 11:22 And I only did it because I saw someone else do it on astral and though oh that's neat I'll try that next time 11:22 I love dying on Astral 11:23 I think it was rebatela I was watching, doing woolly rain 11:23 that's mobileusers move though 11:24 Also seeing someone lose the Amulet and having to hunt it down - if I hadn't of seen that I'd have been lost when it happened to me 11:24 but yeah we all learn from each other... hothraxxa came up with black rain. we used to do that, but then the dragonbane change 11:25 What changed with dragonbane? I'm a noob... 11:25 you can't have dragon pets when you have it 11:26 Right. That makes sense 11:26 if you don't have dragonbane, taming black dragons is still pretty kickass 11:26 i had planned on doing it 11:27 and obviously it all comes from purple rain. which is vanilla stuff, but he nerfed that by giving everyone slow digestion rings 11:27 i hate to say it, but if it were my "evil" game? I'd just make astral non-tameable... 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 508 points, T:1758, zombified by a hobbit zombie 11:29 What? You don't like pacifists being able to ascend in evil? 11:29 sure 11:29 just bring your pets with you. don't tame them on astral 11:29 Maybe give the priests a competing ability to cast charm monster? 11:29