00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 684 points, T:841, zapped herself with a wand 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 2838 points, T:1658, killed by a gnoll cleric 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 303 points, T:1210, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una), 39298 points, T:19579, killed by a bolt of lightning 00:52 :c 02:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 495 points, T:1764, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 03:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1698 points, T:1850, killed by an ape 03:11 Not doing well today. 03:13 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:103952 03:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 285 points, T:577, killed by a little dog 03:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 49 points, T:591, killed by a raven 03:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:105391 04:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1326 04:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2486 04:41 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 04:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5828 points, T:6461, killed by a leocrotta 05:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Bar Gia Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elberensis", on T:3248 05:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 05:36 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Bar Gia Mal Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Brute, on T:8631 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5749 points, T:5001, killed by a carnivorous ape 06:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 13001 points, T:10415, killed by a mountain dwarf 06:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 269 points, T:1151, killed by a steel sling bullet, while fainted from lack of food 06:33 First bullet death? 06:51 For me, yes. 06:51 I believe so. 06:51 My mistake, though - I thought I'd eaten, but i hadn't. 06:51 Wasn't paying attention. 06:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12123 06:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 20804 points, T:12961, killed by a chameleon imitating a saber-toothed tiger, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:18 Ouch! Playing too quick. Walked into floating eye that turned out to be a chameleon... 07:19 Overconfident 'cos strength had just gone up to 12! 07:20 oof :-( 07:29 M - a trident named Angelslayer. 07:31 random gnome king 07:34 Sick, don't die 07:36 i also got a shield of reflection 07:36 but not good as in infidel 07:39 I mean it's fine for now 07:39 When crowning's available you'll have to make Decisions™ 07:40 g - an uncursed wand of wishing (1:2). 07:40 WHAT 07:40 i'll save 07:40 hax 07:40 deep breath 07:40 i saved 07:40 i havent even eaten anything today 07:40 good thing 07:41 so time to get some rl % 07:41 i think first wish though is gauntlets of power 07:41 foodless conduct preserved 07:41 which role/race? 07:41 ith inf 07:41 !whereis NetSysFire 07:41 Umbire: NetSysFire is not playing. 07:41 i saved 07:41 liar 07:41 /j 07:42 Probably make 'em stone 07:42 yeah 07:42 yeah, stone gauntlets of power 07:42 and some MR source 07:42 i already have cloak of protection 07:42 starting equipment 07:42 MR 07:42 magic res 07:42 Not MC 07:42 oh 07:42 ya doofus 07:42 <3 07:42 lol 07:42 this is why i #saved 07:43 i know i am going to mess this up 07:43 boring gray dragon scale mail would be OK 07:43 Considering the thoroughness of the starting kit, GDSM looks like the play 07:43 heh 07:43 a shop above me has an uncursed magic lamp 07:43 Like, no need to go above and beyond when the objective is "don't fucking die lol" 07:43 more hax 07:43 not like you have a lot of other options that'd make sense anyway 07:44 i started with spellbook of identify 07:44 did you save? 07:44 lol 07:44 :b 07:44 does MR help against disintegration? 07:44 morning evilhackers 07:44 I don't think it does, netsysfire (which is why i better remember to cast reflection... also going to geno black dragons soon ) 07:45 it does protect against death wands 07:45 (somewhat) 07:45 i have a shield of reflection lol 07:45 but as a infidel its not too nice 07:45 yeah i hear ya 07:45 i play monk so same issue... this is the first run i'm doing w/out dragonbane in quite some time 07:46 I needed to free up amulet slot (had been wearing reflection earlier) so i'm stacking the spell 07:46 I feel like it's only a problem if you plan to crown later, by the time you can reliably do so you should at least have other options 07:46 no amulet yet 07:46 like yeah, the amulet once you deliver the AoY 07:46 excep the aoy 07:46 or fuckin'... 07:46 hmmmmmmmmm 07:46 lol 07:46 you dont have to wear it though 07:46 Unless you plan to cast 07:46 the spell is cumulative like haste self 07:46 but you never indicated either way so 07:46 no it suffices to carry it 07:47 oh 07:47 neat™ 07:47 that'll decide the amulet slot p. easily then 07:47 havent done soko yet 07:47 not even reached it 07:47 what else, what other wishes, trying to think... 07:48 probably want armor of venom too so you don't eat shit 07:48 nah poison res is easy to come by 07:48 just need to kill the unicorns i sighted on the upper floors 07:49 enjoy 07:49 the problem is killing them though 07:49 🤔 what helms don't block illithid stuff again? 07:49 you have charges on the fire horn right? 07:49 out of it 07:49 aw 07:49 pet? 07:49 but i have charging 07:49 no pet 07:49 ah 07:50 you know the yellow dragon scale mail is tempting 07:50 since sickness res 07:50 errr 07:50 stoning and acid res 07:50 that'd be gold for sickness res 07:50 yeah 07:50 but I can see it, yeah 07:50 dunno what else you'd do for MR though 07:50 ring of p'hul maybe? or is it intelligent? 07:51 It is, all QAs are 07:51 damn 07:51 so you're fucked WRT those 07:51 your QA is slotless MR though fwiw 07:51 yes 07:51 but long way off so 07:52 i can't remember if i killed the priest in ice queen level... I killed all the other temple priests except my own, but then my titan kill that one before I could buy clairvoyhance and maybe even more protection (i have 120k+ zorkmids ) 07:52 i dont like the passive cancellation attack of the gdsm 07:52 so if GDSM then I guess... a t-shirt could cover remaining properties but I don't think there's an oprop for sickness/stoning/acid res 07:52 is there? 07:52 hm 07:53 oooooh dragonhide t-shirt of drain res 07:54 damn tough decision 07:54 i need holy water to bless the magic lamp though 07:55 yeah that'd be standard 07:55 like once you have the MR/reflection/poison res you're mostly set for a while 07:56 do you think i should try the shield of reflection? 07:57 that you already have? 07:57 yeah 07:57 I would 07:57 fuck spellcasting for now :-) 07:57 oh you can't wish for any quest artis 07:57 why? 07:57 you're unaligned 07:57 intelligent 07:58 yeah 07:58 unaligned 07:58 alright so plan of action is to wish for stone gop first 07:58 can i wrest a charge out of a 1:0 wow? 07:58 only if you are very lucky 07:58 its full moon 07:58 better chance if blessed 07:58 hmm 07:58 I mean real life lucky 07:59 I always fail :-) 07:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "cursed greased fixed +3 stone gauntlets of power", on T:10295 07:59 aw +0 07:59 wish for hooa so you can use lawful quest artifacts :^) 07:59 haha! 07:59 hi ammy 08:00 lawful quest artifacts suck 08:00 right, can't remember what the shit player giants' movement speed was 08:00 no they don't they're awesome, there's the... uh... 08:00 9? 10? one of those 08:00 the uhm, ehhhhh 08:00 the MMoM 08:00 wow lawful artifacts suck 08:00 unless you're not a knight 08:01 :y 08:01 MMoM nerfed and bad 08:01 that was the joke 08:01 Xiuhcoatl could be good but need 21 dex 08:02 which is like +7 gaunts of dex 08:02 K2: "Blessed pieces of armor have a small chance of resisting" re destroy armor, should be cursed for infidel 08:02 * amateurhour puts on best K2 voice 08:02 no? how do you figure? 08:02 K2: Message from krm26 at 2021-10-21 23:15 EDT: Neferet killed himself with an acid blast -- dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Home 1, Program in disorder! Reloading worked fine to the round before Neferet suicided 08:02 nah that's part of the challenge 08:03 amateurhour wrong again :) 08:03 close enough :P 08:03 nerp 08:03 because blessed is unfair 08:03 an infidel doesnt give cursed armor any special powers or benefits 08:03 its the other way around 08:04 yeah and thats why its unfair 08:04 no such thing as 'fair' 08:04 right, its evilhack 08:04 no, in general 08:05 :) 08:05 🆗 08:06 back on track, GDSM is still probably the ideal play for MR 08:06 also what helm doesn't block psionics, legit don't recall 08:06 just has to be non-metal, right? 08:06 yes 08:06 stone helm of brilliance? 08:07 oilskin fedora? 08:07 can you still get flayed as an ithillid? 08:07 oh 08:07 aren't illithids immune to flaying 08:07 no 08:07 they are 08:07 yeah 08:08 good point 08:08 I guess when you become a demon you're not immune anymore 08:08 correct 08:08 hey look, amateurhour was right :) 08:08 in which case an oilskin fedora would be a good futureproofing call 08:08 only correct answers here 08:08 far as the SoR ideally you'll find another source of reflection before the crowning question comes up 08:09 yeah but good enough for now 08:09 helms of speed can't be oilskin I take it? 08:09 correct 08:09 unfortunately 08:10 K2: Tangent, but would a helm of darkness be on the table as a YANI? 08:10 helm of darkness? 08:10 or helm of invisibility, however you choose to interpret it 08:10 wut fer 08:10 hypothetical optimal man would beat vecna then geno alhoons and flayers and then crown for demon 08:10 suddenly thought of Perseus 08:11 could be either like, invisibility or an actual field of darkness 08:11 (unrelated, gold dragons are gonna be ass for drow to deal with) 08:11 there is a shield of light 08:11 could curse that 08:12 those dont go dark 08:13 they just give off less light when cursed 08:13 yet :-) 08:13 same with GDSM 08:13 cursed magic lamp is what ya want 08:13 when the time comes and drow is being made, might add another object or something that gives off darkness. maybe 08:14 havent thought about that very much 08:14 is why I suggested it 08:14 not unrelated, had to deal with a nasty umbral hulk in my THEM game 08:15 fucked up my dragon 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:88843 08:15 actually Jerry (the titan) did, do I get the murder penalty ? 08:15 NetSysFire did you just find a random wand of wishing? 08:15 yes 08:16 I thought they couldn't be generated randomly in evilhack, I guess it's just ultra rare 08:16 That's pretty sweet 08:16 its full moon 08:16 You're thinking of xnh 08:16 also got a magic lamp in the shop above me 08:16 hax 08:16 dont tell K2 08:16 wow 08:16 rebatela no 08:17 thanks 08:17 random WoW are super rare in evilhack. nice NetSysFire 08:17 it'll be 1:x 08:17 it was 1:2 08:17 i already wished for stone gop 08:17 Yeah, we were discussing wish choices 08:17 schweet 08:17 thinking of going for yellow dsm 08:17 i still have a 1:2 wand 08:17 i still need MR though 08:17 what role again netsysfire? 08:17 ith inf 08:18 your current setup kinda softlocks you into GDSM 08:18 but i dont wanna that passive cancellation attack 08:18 MR cloak is a thing if you want to swap out your cloak of protection 08:18 but that's... a cloak of protection 08:18 dragonhide cloak of MR 08:18 or amulet of MR 08:18 yeah but i dont want to "waste" a wish on it 08:18 also that 08:18 ..until i die 08:18 also that! 08:18 hmm havent decided on cloak yet 08:18 but i want a yellow dsm 08:18 follow your dreams 08:19 because stoning and acid res are nowhere else 08:19 until i die K2 08:19 have you completed soko yet 08:19 also because of evil disintegration 08:19 no 08:19 havent even reached it 08:19 so 50% chance of either mr or relfection there 08:19 reflection 08:19 already has a SoR 08:19 might want to crown, though 08:19 he might* 08:19 hmm, do you think i can postpone the wish for MR until after soko? 08:20 maybe 08:20 a lot can happen between now and then 08:20 reflection is enough to ward off death rays and you have to be supremely unlucky to get a ToD-capable spellcaster imo 08:20 (by the time you get there) 08:20 What's your AC right now? 08:20 me personally, i'd go for MR 08:20 i think -3 08:21 K2: how rare are wows in evil exactly? 08:21 no it was -2 08:21 1 in 1500 chance i think 08:21 If it were me I'd probably get the gdsm right now 08:21 but passive cancellation effect for juicy armor :( 08:23 K2: what would you do if someone used actual hax? 08:23 as in? 08:23 🔨 08:24 exploits 08:24 e.g if i was to find an actual exploit to get a free wow 08:24 if the game allows it... 08:24 but, it's something i'd want to fix 08:25 what if someone exploits dgl? 08:25 why do you ask? 08:26 just curious 08:26 most hacking i could do is keyboard mashing hoping to escape to a shell 08:27 or use an axe in the game to hack 08:28 * K2 begins surveillance on NetSysFire 08:28 ohno 08:28 :P 08:28 hah 08:28 nah i can promise you i only do ethical stuff even if i manage to stumble across vulns but i didnt even try, so no worries 08:29 heh 08:29 fun fact - hardfought turned 21 today 08:30 happy birthday hardfought! 08:30 you're old enough to drink! 08:30 🥳 08:30 !booze hardfought 08:30 * Hecubus_ throws hardfought a tumbler of booze, conjured by Croesus at 140 Kelvin. 08:32 \o/ 08:32 i need to do a news post 08:32 doit 08:33 i need to anyways (tnnt) 08:33 * NetSysFire gives an athame to K2 08:33 hah 08:39 congrats on hdf k2! 08:40 i was originally turned away because of the cover photo with that kid giving the bird! (swear to god) so i stayed on NAO for too long, and then and THEN i finally gave it a shot anyway and my life was changed forever 08:41 thanks! 08:41 lol 08:41 the people in the banner are original community members. old school 08:41 the guy giving the bird is 'puppy' 08:42 from left to right: eatmorelead, sX, spudboy, puppy, me 08:43 aosdict didnt you offer at one point to make a new banner? 08:43 am I not doing enough web design for you right now 08:43 us 08:43 not 'you' 08:43 US 08:44 and yes, you are 08:44 I mean, sure, I think the banner could do with an update but my graphic design is taking a backseat right now 08:44 i wasnt asking you to do it, i was asking if you had offered in the past :) 08:45 What image are we discussing? 08:45 just replace it with the text 'Hardfought' displayed in wingdings 08:45 the banner on the hdf website 08:45 I should take a look! 08:45 Ah, never noticed that middle-finger. 08:45 that banner has been there for so long... i kinda dont want to replace it 08:46 it'd still be on the forums presumably 08:47 I'd say replace it when you do a wholesale refresh - new theme, everything. ;) Which could be... A while. 08:47 i miss the lan parties we used to do 08:48 K2 u have a house follow ur dreams 08:48 nethack lan parties are boring. you all sit there with the cables connected but no data is going through them 08:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 33 points, T:391, killed by a jackal 08:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3472 08:53 arahael: yeah the kid with the braces. I used to think that was k2... 08:54 K2 in the banner looks like a soldier. :) 08:55 i think i'm gonna leave the titan behind while I go check on this ice queen temple... NOT dying to the angry kathryn again 08:55 he WAS a soldier! :) 08:55 he looks all "alright everyone rein it in a bit" 08:56 man, I want to ride a woolly again but I lost that polished barding to the purple worm. so pissed 08:56 i might just bring a pack of them with me to Vlads 08:56 happy birthday minotaur, locust, wood chuck, fox, tiger, uruk-hai, cauchemar, winged gargoyle, alhoon, lurker above 08:56 dammit i did kill all the priests... 120k zorkmids and nothing to spend it on 08:57 I do NOT wish alhoons a happy birthday. 08:57 i guess take it with me for score? 08:57 of course you do :b 08:57 i wanted to buy clairvoyance so when i'm not wearing EotO on the rodney run 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3657 09:02 arahael hah yeah, that pic of me was from my first tour in iraq 09:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3216 points, T:4527, killed by an owlbear 09:04 Hmm, this new game, I've started with a spell I can't cast. Always feels weird. 09:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 3347 points, T:4028, killed by a gnomish wizard 09:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1289 points, T:2068, killed by a rabid dog 09:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 238 points, T:742, killed by a piranha 09:21 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 09:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class ;), on T:1758 09:22 ooo you can enchant barding. very cool 09:22 ;) 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1997 points, T:2785, zombified by a gnome zombie, while sleeping 09:24 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 arrows on an altar, on T:3045 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 528 points, T:1125, killed by a bolt of fire 09:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2830 points, T:3149, crunched in the head by an iron ball 09:42 dammit should have genod black dragons. just lost my kickass steed with the (non polished ) barding 09:42 oh well 09:42 i'm getting better at pets (slowly) 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:92245 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:92246 09:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:2613 09:54 pet management is a game all its own I'd argue 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4990 09:57 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 09:58 umbire: for sure... I don't usually have the patience in the early game (plus, can't always find a whistle/stethscope), but titans, vampire mages, woollys take it to the next level if you can keep alive 10:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 453 points, T:1755, killed by a bolt of fire, while being terrified of a ghost 10:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2586 points, T:3248, killed by a bolt of cold, while taking off clothes 10:01 "Hey, is it warm in here? Mind if I slip into something more comf--" 10:01 All I'll say is: Damn nymphs. 10:01