00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) stole 356 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Inverurie's quality apparel and accessories, on T:29407 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4727 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:81901 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5002 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1940 points, T:5006, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted baby owlbear 01:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) made her first artifact wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:31862 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a staff entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:32738 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:36169 02:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a darkwood staff entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:36285 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:09 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Gia Fem Una), 244576 points, T:64221, killed by an ogre king 03:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1099 points, T:2343, killed by a gas cloud, while praying 03:59 yaEi - if you #pray while adjacent to izchak's true form, you permaconvert to lawful, begin worshipping the clearly all-powerful izchak, and upset your original deity 03:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 620 points, T:1742, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 04:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:15 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:43 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 05:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3143 06:37 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:18 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a jaguar corpse on an altar of Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4846 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 4199 points, T:6291, killed by an owlbear 08:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:31 rip graznop 08:31 giants are a blast. If you can get that priest through the early game you'll cruise 08:32 i play giant monks a lot (but their early game is easy) 08:32 if... got the giant anaconda, tiger and orc with /oLightning, only to get grabbed by the owlbear. Not paying attention! 08:32 oh man that sucks 08:33 Learning though. Particularly like dropping tactical boulders! 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide boots of speed named Gotta Go Fast", on T:47802 08:38 I think that with 'm' you can move onto a boulder? Makes for easy hit - retreat/heal - hit type tactics 08:39 yeah, it takes a while to realize how powerful boulders really are, and the cool stuff you can do 08:39 I love how you can just make a stash wherever you are.. Just drop whatever and 1 boulder 08:40 (obviously gotta worry about giants and things casting striking/polymorph etc. ) 08:41 i am LOVING this pet titan. Game him some armor, " o reflection and fire brand 08:41 or being chased down a corridor - drop a boulder! 08:41 i guess frost brand would be better for gehennom, but we'll have to make to do 08:41 graznop: yep! 08:42 Given it a unihorn yet? 08:42 yes and a lizard corpse 08:42 Much fun then 08:42 gather as many boulders as you can. You shouldn't notice them weighing you down 08:42 actually, i thought i gave him a uniorhn but now i don't see it. thank you for reminding me 08:43 maybe he put it in his bag. One problem i had once before is that it always seemed to want to use it as a weapon 08:44 I LOVE the way you can use loot on your pet these days 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:48299 08:44 go go vaderflag 08:44 Multiple engagements vs Vecna with vorpal + sunsword, not a single crit hit with either :| 08:44 should i give the titan life saving instead of reflection? It can probably cast reflection? (I haven't noticed if it has been) 08:45 Got a shield of reflection? 08:45 hmmmm i don't think so. probably poly'd it. but i might 08:46 i'm using the spell myself. no dragonbane (yet) 08:46 In vanilla, the order in which pets pick things up is important. Don't know how this interacts with being able to loot pets... 08:47 oh boy. I think this is my first encounter with Graz't 08:48 I'm afraid of Graz'zt 08:48 good luck 08:48 can it steal stuff from a distance? (like outside a fort?) i'm confused. cliff's notes please? 08:48 No it's a touch attack 08:48 oh ok 08:48 just like nymphs 08:49 gotcha 08:49 Aphodite's revenge 08:51 I might still do vecna. I forgot about him. Still have Vlad to do too (procrastinates facing Graz't't ) 09:11 K2: i think a couple of the commits in https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/pull/54 probably apply to evilhack 09:12 at least https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/pull/54/commits/3010d15 and https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/pull/54/commits/7aa0ee1 probably do, I think 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:49543 09:23 qt thanks! 09:24 rebatela, Graznop - boulders DO have weight for giants in evilhack 09:24 only 8 aum. still low, but prevents a giant player from being able to carry around literally thousands of boulders with no repercussion 09:24 since they can stack 09:27 I'm happy with half-a-dozen boulders 09:31 10-15 is probably the most at once you'll need 09:36 I like the image of a giant hurling boulders from a stack of thousands 09:37 lol... 09:37 Ensure the material of the low boots created by polymorphing a crocodile 09:37 corpse is set to leather, rather than creating knockoffs of the shoes 09:37 Lady Gaga wore to the 2010 VMAs. 09:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a hobbit corpse on an altar of Huhetotl, on T:3553 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3729 points, T:4875, killed by a system shock 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1368 10:14 oh no not the kitten 10:16 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:49777 10:19 rawr 10:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1474 points, T:1775, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted piranha 10:24 * NetSysFire makes drowning noises 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 1838 points, T:2352, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jaguar 10:27 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33 people are trippin' today 10:36 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2788 points, T:3597, killed by a white unicorn 10:41 jaguar, the kitten's revenge 10:42 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:38082 11:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:41 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1562 points, T:3252, killed by a white unicorn 11:48 k2: graznop: sorry, I didn't mean to imply boulders are weightless... I play giant all the time though, and boulders have never been the real reason for any encumbrance 11:49 You only need 10 apparently. Where'd you come up with that number, Umbire? 11:50 I said "probably 10-15" 11:50 also personal experience 11:51 I've yet to get to quest with a giant but enough boulders let you flatten quite a lot surprisingly 11:51 recall offing a vrock with a handful once 11:52 before tiamat became an uber demon price and she was still the caveman quest nemesis, I killed her via boulder tossing only. she never landed a hit on me 11:52 yani: allow pancake to have a corpsenm so that throwing a boulder at a monster can produce a 'newt pancake' or 'goblin pancake' :) 11:52 *prince 11:52 qt lol 11:52 Think I suggested something like that 11:52 giant being giant and all I tend to run into the carry cap issue a lot quicker, though iunno how much of that is down to my habit carrying around a box to potentially lock zombies in later 11:53 that's the kind of quality update we need qt 11:55 hobgoblin wafers 11:56 you are a horder too though right? 11:56 boulders stack and don't weigh you don't as much as the garbage you (not you, but ONE) needlessly carries around imo 11:57 only speaking from personal experience 11:57 you can always drop boulders and go back obviously... my maint point was to GATHER as many as possible from the very beginnging 11:58 Me being a hoarder isn't the reason I made that rec - I'm aware of how much more I can carry, but that's just the number I personally find "enough" 11:58 oice 11:58 oice 11:58 oic 11:58 ugh 11:59 yeah. i mean, 10 boulders for the mines and such is probably fine. I'm just saying the way I personally play, I pick up every boulder i see 11:59 you can always stash them 12:00 Does Tiamat always have Dirge? 12:00 and a mithril polished shield... well, at least if i survive i have a shield for my titan! 12:01 Titan won't use DIrge because lawful though i'm assuming? 12:06 Tiamat has Dirge? 12:06 i thought it was grazzzzzzzzt 12:08 I also recall it being Grazz't 12:08 Lemme check 12:09 qt: Yep, it's him 12:10 anyway meeting like 20, then might snooze, bbl today 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 499 points, T:1284, killed by a piranha 12:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:16 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:52166 12:23 oh whoops i menat grazzt 12:23 forgot who i was fighting 12:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Hum Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:40822 12:25 oh no what happened to my titan? :( 12:25 oh this sucks 12:25 what happened? 12:26 does it segfault if you generate Dirge early and visit Grazatatztztatz's level 12:27 phew... needed to put see invisible back on 12:27 ah I guess oname never returns null, just returns original object 12:27 that's good 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:84817 12:38 alright, so now jerry the titan is has fire brand, ring of protection +3, ring of fire resistance, dragoonhide fedora, gauntlets of power and speed boots (not sure how much those help) and AoLS 12:38 Go go jerry 12:38 need to make sure he gets a unihorn and lizard 12:39 threw a LOT of enchant shurkien and daggers at GRaz'tt't, but ended up having to melee him anyway at the end. kinda scary 12:40 K2: is the version of evilhack with racial mplayer corpses in bones live? 12:40 just curious what kind of corpse i will be leaving :) 12:40 i assume my lawful jerry can't wield Dirge? 12:41 I would assume that as well 12:41 i was smart ( i think ) and put EotA and Eyes of OVerworld in my bag and left the bag upstairs when i fought grazzt 12:42 iforget what he stole, but it was rather mundane 12:42 Nice being a monk, can't get your nice weapon yoinked from you 12:46 actually i think no non-covetous monsters can wield dirge... seems like a bug 12:46 potentially, at least 12:46 well, I guess stormbringer is the same way 12:47 but basically no monster can wield an 'intelligent' artifact weapon, unless they are covetous or a player monster 12:47 I feel like Iv'e seen a balrog snag my stormbringer and wield it after 12:48 pretty sure Excalibur is intelligent (but sort of a special case) 12:49 and a pet water troll wielded it 12:49 oh nvm monsters can wield it 12:49 i forgot the issue 12:50 it's not just intelligence, it's intelligence and an association with a particular role 12:50 which is true of quest artifacts and excalibur 12:50 but excalibur is an explicit exception in the 'can a monster wield this?' code 12:50 qt yes it is 12:50 anyway dirge doesn't have an association with a particular role so i was wrong 12:51 yes what is? 12:51 K2: is the version of evilhack with racial mplayer corpses in bones live? 12:51 ^ that 12:51 cool 12:51 i like the way the ghost gets sucked back into its body if you reanimate a bones corpse 12:51 WHO DOES THIS? LET THE DEAD REST 12:51 version on server is current with repo 12:52 * tinklebear settles down 12:52 Would be amazing if you could revive dead players and tame them as your pets 12:53 K2's ghost turns to flee. The human archeologist corpse glows iridescently. K2's ghost is suddenly drawninto its former body! The human digger is resurrected! 12:53 such a nice touch 12:53 \o/ 12:53 !! That's fantastic 12:53 it's that way in vanilla 12:54 when did that become a vanilla thing? 12:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5012 12:55 2004forever 12:55 lol 12:55 forever 12:55 lol 12:55 it predates the cvs history 12:55 i wrote 2004 because that's what git blame said, but that was just refactoring it 12:56 TIL 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52994 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52996 13:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5138 13:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) had a small shield entrusted to him by Issek, on T:53475 13:37 k2 i have some misc erac stuff here, basically just considering race in a couple more places https://termbin.com/4tdcy 13:37 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38 nice 13:38 can you do that as a PR please? 13:38 sure 13:38 thanks 13:39 i'm knee deep in email migration. myself and my boss are the guinea pigs, so far ours are the only accounts migrated (from exchnage 2010 to office 365) and thank god we didnt cut anyone else over yet hah 13:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:49 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #77: Expand racial_ macro usage a bit - https://git.io/JikJd 13:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:58 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 328 points, T:932, killed by a giant mimic 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 frost brand", on T:54666 14:19 Don't want those brands breeding, that's for sure 14:19 What fun is playing a rogue if you can't two-weapon the brands 14:21 at expert! 14:23 exactly! 14:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:24 getting the kinks worked out with this email migration. it was like ALL of the security protections were enabled full force. every email but those from within our organization were going to junk mail hahaha 14:25 Taking me so long to magic missile Yeenoghu to death that I'm forgetting the spell 14:25 this is why you pick 1-2 accounts to be the guinea pigs first before migrating all account en masse 14:26 I would have expected Yeenoghu to be resistant to magic missile 14:26 baalz 14:26 ...this is why I shouldn't be playing on oxy 14:27 THC chewables enters chat 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:59267 14:28 \o/ 14:29 I'm too drugged to do anything but play nethack but I'm too drugged to properly play nethack 14:30 I really do like the Nethack 4 thing where you can play multiple games at the same time 14:31 what hurts so bad that you need to take oxy for it? 14:32 :( 14:32 heartache 14:32 oh you were talking to krm26 14:32 aww 14:35 -!- Looksfar has joined #evilhack 14:35 Oh, I've got a crushed foraminal vertebral nerve that can sometimes really light up my neck through my left shoulder to my elbow. I normally just suffer I had to do a bunch of over-the-head work this morning, and then on top of that had some emotional cruft (picked up ashes of the best puppy ever), so I broke down and ate a 10 year old megapainkiller I had rattling around in a drawer 14:36 Now you, too, have been crushed by my wall of text 14:36 ugh 14:37 i deal with lower back issues. opiates make me feel worse than how I felt before taking them, so I stay away from them. thank god 14:37 Yeah, it doesn't really kill the pain, but it *does* modify how much the pain irritates me :-) 14:37 I think I average one pill for it every 4-5 months, so it is a special day 14:37 i recently started taking THC chewables for the back pain. it works. i am still getting dialed in on how much I should take 14:38 ah that's not bad 14:38 condolences on your pup 14:38 I've tried a THC topical (since I am old as dirt, starting to have some weird undiagnosable maybe-non-serum-rheumatoid arthritis in my hands) but it didn't seem to do anything 14:39 Keep waiting for my doctor to tell me to just be baked all the time but it hasn't happened yet 14:39 try a Diclofenac topical cream (consult with your doc first) 14:40 that can help take the edge off 14:41 Thanks, Líle Althaisdóttir was the best 14:41 (diclofenac also negative alas) 14:42 a few weeks ago I made the mistake of taking 7.5 mg thc chewable all at once 14:42 first time i ever got 'high'. didnt like the feeling. felt woozy and couldnt focus, went to bed. back felt better though hah 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:44305 14:44 should make that a thing in evilhack. 'You eat the chewable, it's delicious!' <100 turns later> 'You start to feel confused.' 14:44 Oops, I guess I should have said a *cbd* topical, heh 14:46 -!- Looksfar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:47 -!- Looksfar13 has joined #evilhack 14:47 As always, saying baked makes me want to bake, so I'm gonna go put up some bread -- later 14:47 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:48 -!- Looksfar13 has quit [Client Quit] 14:49 heh 14:50 -!- Looksfar has joined #evilhack 14:51 There's another new thing. Ran into a magic trap, got the message "You feel an odd sensation. Your eyesight feels diminished." 14:51 Can't tell if it really did anything, though. 14:52 if you had see invis, you no longer have it 14:52 brb 14:54 Well that blows. Magic traps can rob you of intrinsics. 15:02 it can toggle invis and see invis 15:03 but should you get see invis from crowning, you will always keep it 15:03 (barring gremlins probably) 15:04 uh "bar" gremlins 15:05 i don't think 'barring gremlins' is wrong 15:05 yeah, meanings seem similar 15:06 not a native speaker :-) 15:15 :P 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55026 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:55027 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:55064 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:88793 15:23 go bouquet go! 15:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 132 points, T:297, crunched in the head by an iron ball 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 129 points, T:801, killed by a boulder 15:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:88933 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:88934 15:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 149 points, T:434, crunched in the head by an iron ball 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 12 points, T:410, killed by a sewer rat 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 44 points, T:56, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 48 points, T:275, killed by a fox 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by a fox 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful water elemental, on T:89045 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:89046 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:89054 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful white dragon, on T:89090 15:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) murdered Nicodemus, her faithful sewer rat, on T:261 15:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 48 points, T:270, killed by a fox 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:89121 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:89131 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:55243 15:39 sigh.... 15:39 full astral tour 15:40 woolly rain 15:40 I wouldn't be able to walk around burdened like that :b 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:55285 15:41 was about to say. drop something :) 15:42 \o/ 15:42 \o/ 15:42 woot 15:42 congrats bouquet woop 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4612838 points, T:89217, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1633820845.evil.html 15:43 congrats bouquet! 15:43 FINALLY!!! 15:43 CONGRATS :) 15:43 yay bouquet 15:43 * bouquet bows 15:44 * tinklebear looks around for a clump of flowers to toss 15:45 grand tour sucks when it's happening, but feels damn rewarding aterwards (after your heartbeat retreats to a normalish pace that is) 15:46 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±12] https://git.io/JikSI 15:46 [EvilHack] entrez 6b81956 - Expand racial_ macro usage a bit 15:46 [EvilHack] k21971 c977f8d - Merge pull request #77 from entrez/racial_foo-coverage 15:47 what will you do with your newfound fame bouquet 15:48 oh wait, I bet he's on the phone with Nike or Mercedes or Burger King 15:48 endorsement get! 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 835 points, T:1269, killed by a jellyfish 15:58 people should be ascending tnnt, not evilhack, so I can have more data to test 15:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jik7K 15:58 [EvilHack] k21971 1e10576 - Fix: croc corpse poly produces 'flesh low boots'. 15:59 Oh it's open for test drives before the 1st? 15:59 yes 15:59 I might do tnnt this year, never done it before 15:59 since the 15th 15:59 you should, its fun 15:59 I was just reading about the new branches, nifty stuff 15:59 it's fun VaderFLAG definitely worth playing 15:59 I haven't played vanilla in SO LONG though 15:59 last time I played vanilla was last tnnt :P 16:01 How is the deathmatch room, in practice? 16:02 I was too scared to do it, haha 16:03 seems like the best thing to do is wait till someone ascends before entering the portal 16:03 so you know exactly what they have 16:03 wait for some amateur to do a monk or something then fight that 16:03 So 2 hours in? Lots of speedrunning happening I imagine 16:04 if you try take them on and they have like 20 lizard corpses and -50 ac you're gonna have a bad time 16:04 whereas luxidream will happily ascend with like 3 ac 16:04 yay! i joing the eldritch ki-rin pet club! (my titan needed a friend ) 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Rog Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6900 16:04 joined* too 16:09 overjoied ;-) 16:14 -!- Looksfar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:15 -!- Looksfar has joined #evilhack 16:21 the dialogue between those two... "Psst, hey Titan. Snag a few tripe rations from that chest, while rebatela off doing shop stuff." 16:22 "No way, brah. rebatela is our master. we must obey him in all things." 16:22 "Chicken" 16:23 "Call me chicken one more time, you equine blackguard..." 16:23 ROFL 16:25 you used to be able to give THEM amulets of reflection in older vanilla versions, but I guess i will use this reflective barding with the woolly blood stains on it 16:26 barding... still cracks me up 16:26 still need to kill vlad/quest leader/rodney. Oh and maybe still altar scum for dragonbane 16:27 i had to google. It means cover in bacon? 16:28 what? barding? 16:29 YASI: if your pet wears barding it will also periodically sing words of encouragement 16:29 * tinklebear just thinks horse armor is funny. 16:30 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:56843 16:43 Well this is an interesting looking map 16:43 New soko-ban to figure out 16:45 thew new sokoban levels make my old brain feel super old 16:45 for spoilers: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_(UnNetHack) 16:45 yes, I was wondering why you were laughing at barding so i google it, and it is a cooking term meaning to cover meat with slices of bacon 16:45 Thanks, mobileuser. I'll try without 'em first 16:45 (evilhack numbering could be different) 16:46 gl looksfar! 16:46 does bhaak or someone actually come up with those levels? Or are they taken from a legit sokoban book or something ? 16:47 As I understand it this last level is like "Let's Make a Deal" with three doors with prizes behind them. You can only pick one, though? 16:48 it seems like it would be even more difficult to design fun/challenging soko levels 16:48 ya. Quaff a potion of obj det so you can at least see what class of item is behind each door 16:48 ^^ this 16:48 rebatela: some of them were made by different people, bhaak credits them in the des file 16:48 Assuming I have one :-/ 16:49 it's worth going and finding one when you get to that point looksofar 16:49 Actually haven't even encountered a nymph yet, which is odd 16:49 crystal ball also works 16:49 Mmm, good point 16:49 yeah i was just going to say, find a nymph 16:49 Oi, I left a crystal ball back in the Mines because it was too heavy 16:49 Guess that means a trek back 16:50 I had this same problem in my game and i went to the aphrodite level.. Killed 3 or 4 nymphs from range and NONE had the potion, thenthe next one starts stealing my gear lol 16:50 I already found a BoH, so I guess I want to avoid that. Reflection would be nice. 16:50 so anyway... as usual the time I MASSIVELY overprepare for ascension it ends up being a cakewalk. 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:57112 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:57114 16:51 LOL bouquet.. COngrats again :) 16:51 also, I wasn't drinking booze or tired so that helps massively. 16:51 thanks rebatela! 16:52 rebatela: even if they're from a Sokoban book they have been thought up by people. there's no automated process that makes good Sokoban levels. are the best are hand designed 16:52 you've inspired me to tame/ride a ki-rin lol 16:52 go go VaderFLAG 16:52 There is no such thing as overkill. There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.' 16:52 as long as you have a str of 18/** and a 23 dex you can't miss the riders :) 16:52 bhaak. Yeah, I understand that lol. I meant, is it nethack people who are coming up with these levels 16:52 who do we blame for 2a 16:53 I have a little sokoban game on my phone that has some of the game levels in it. 16:53 we all do the woolly thing now, huh? (THANKS MOBILEUSER! :) ) 16:53 rebatela: I tried to search for more Sokoban levels to put in the game but couldn't find any that satisfied the nethack game conditions. I have no clue how the original were found and also no idea how paxed found the other one 16:53 bhaak: interesting 16:53 bhaak kmod has a few interesting ones 16:54 https://github.com/karadoc/Nethack/blob/master/sokoban/4.txt 16:54 the ones I looked at seemed way to easy 16:54 congrats bouquet!!! 16:54 that one is tricky ^ 16:54 and that one is not "interesting" but a "fuck you" to the player 16:54 thanks Graznop! I huge burden is removed from my shoulders. 16:54 hahaha 16:55 fair enough 16:55 this one is fine: https://github.com/karadoc/Nethack/blob/master/sokoban/1.txt 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:57188 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) killed the White Horse, on T:57192 16:59 Found 1 magic lamp per level for the first 4 levels under the valley 16:59 grand tour for vaderflag too? 16:59 krm26: that's pretty badass! 16:59 Anecdotally, it seems like the missile breakage rate in EH is much higher than vanilla. Is that just my poor luck? 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:47299 17:00 Yeah 17:00 Just poor luck. You have blessed them, right? 17:00 It is also luck-based 17:00 Max luck and bless everything, they stick around a long time 17:01 It's very early game, so not much luck. 17:01 Looksfar: are you just trying evilhack? Welcome!! It's so much fun! 17:02 Yes, welcome Looksfar! We look forward to enjoying some new bones 17:02 Thanks! This is my 4th game, I died quickly my first two and got to Soko-ban in #3 before dying. 17:02 dying is the name of the game! 17:02 stick with it 17:02 You concentrating on a single role to start with? (centaur knight centaur knight) 17:02 Currently trying to clear Soko for the first time, but will likely need to go hunt down that crystal ball first. 17:03 You can usually get a nymph to cough up !obj pretty early in the game 17:03 yeah that's what i was gonna say 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:57235 17:03 !whereis looksofar 17:03 rebatela: looksofar is not playing. 17:03 !whereis Looksfar 17:03 rebatela: [hdf-us] Looksfar [evil]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:6045 Sokoban level: 2 17:04 !whereis VaderFLAG 17:04 rebatela: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil]: (Rog Hum Mal Law) T:57077 The Elemental Planes level: -5 (with Amulet) 17:04 Human monk, you are making life difficult for yourself :-) Centaur monk! Giant monk! 17:04 Giant centaur monk pls 17:04 This level isn't nearly as hard as one I ran into last game, but it's tedious. 17:04 you are playing MY COMBO looksfar ;) 17:04 I'm sticking with something I know while I figure out the game 17:05 No sense trying to complicate it too much first run 17:05 Vaderflag is almost done if you wanna watch 17:05 !whereis rebatela 17:05 rebatela: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:85734 Sokoban level: 9 17:05 and look! i'm in sokoban too 17:05 :) 17:06 Hmm, don't wanna pooch it on these last boulders 17:06 Grats VaderFLAG 17:06 \o/ 17:06 hell yeah vaderflag 17:06 CONGRATS 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Hum Mal Law), 2638974 points, T:57254, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1634571365.evil.html 17:06 congrats!! 17:06 Rogue turned Straight 17:06 gratz!! 17:06 Just... one... last... job 17:06 That is your 73rd ascension this month? 17:06 congrats vaderflag! 17:07 what alignment did you start as ? 17:07 Gotta fit some in before tnnt! 17:07 started neutral 17:08 (You haven't lived until you've tried a chaotic centaur monk with Dragonbane and the Ring of P'hul, Looksfar :-) 17:09 Congratulations, Vaderflag! 17:09 krm26 - I'm gonna resist looking up what that ring is. Sounds cool, though! 17:09 I tried playing evilhack unspoiled at first but it broke me fairly quickly...maybe 2 months? 17:09 Yes along that path only lies temptation 17:10 Now I DM K2 any time I see something I don't understand 17:10 VaderFLAG: one last job? 17:11 So what to do with 4 magic lamps? I guess I could P'hul myself 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased ring of p'hul", on T:60698 17:13 "You hear some cursing!" - what's that? I've never found a source. 17:13 Caster somewhere 17:13 Like a goblin shaman or something 17:14 Ah, ok. 17:14 mobileuser - You know, the career criminal who, before he gives up crime, just has to score one last time 17:14 haha! 17:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:14 I like this Soko-ban design. It's challenging, but I didn't feel like I had to look up a spoiler to solve it. 17:14 No room for error though, if you pooch a boulder you'll have to SoE it 17:15 mad props for playing sokoban (nevermind evilhack) unspoiled 17:17 yeh thats insane 17:19 Well I have long experience in Vanilla, so it's not like I'm helpless 17:20 The first time a zombie tried to eat my brain though, I knew I wasn't in Kansas any more 17:22 Hahaha, I can roundhouse kick things! 17:22 Eat your heart out, Chuck Norris! 17:23 dammit a purple worm swallowed my eldtritch ki-rin :( 17:23 i want another 17:23 I wonder how they taste 17:23 though I guess purple worms don't do a lot of tasting 17:23 ...like evil chicken? 17:24 ?e eldritch ki-rin 17:24 i don't know how to do th at 17:24 still 17:24 ?e@eldtritch ki-rin 17:24 @?e eldritch ki-rin 17:24 No such monster. 17:25 @??!?@?!!Hecubus 17:25 No such monster. 17:25 wait, so it digests the saddle and the polished barding too?!? 17:25 i care more about that that the kirin 17:25 @?e eldritch ki-rin 17:25 No such monster. 17:25 @?e eldritch kir-in 17:25 No such monster. 17:26 lol 17:26 WTF do I do with my other 3 magic lamps 17:26 why did it swallow the barding? maybe it WAS covered in bacon afterall 17:27 Always hold out for the spiked reflective barding 17:27 Hmm, maybe I should wish for that 17:27 @?e purple worm 17:27 e purple worm ~2~ purple worm (w) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d8 bite physical, 1d10 engulf digest | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous 17:27 wtf 17:27 blessed greased fixed +3 spiked polished barding of actually fucking following you 17:28 I've never once seen reflective barding 17:28 It exists, but I assume it is sadly exclusive with spiked 17:29 I guess I'll burn these 3 lamps trying for the master key 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased master key of thievery", on T:60704 17:29 @?e greater homunculus 17:29 No such monster. 17:29 ah 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased master key of thievery", on T:60705 17:30 Hecubus not up-to-date 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "greased fixed magic marker", on T:60709 17:36 i've found it a few times, but i didn't know the purple worm would actually digest it (the polished barding ) 17:36 you can get it from polying magic tools 17:38 mobileuser: i guess the reason i was looking up was to see if they are no-genocide (like elder minotaurs) 17:38 I would love to ride another one 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 22540 points, T:11502, killed by a marilith 17:41 i don' think i'm getting dbane... i've sacrificied a few hundred monsters and i do believe i think this god is done giving me gifts 17:41 This orc shopkeeper doesn't like me 17:41 That's hilarious 17:43 It'll show up eventually rebatela, don't give up! I got mine this run at 50kish 17:43 Had to give my wizard Angelslayer, Frost Bane, and Werebane first 17:44 Wish I'd gotten Demonbane, antigate is amazing 17:47 rebatela I think you can genocide eldritch ki-rin 17:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:51 mmm, sorry not sure actually 17:52 there is no "G_GENO" declaration for eldritch ki-rin, that probably means you can't geno them 17:57 Wow, now this is an outstanding QoL improvement. Drop a container on an altar, it BUC ids all the contents. No more laboriously removing/re-inserting. 17:58 And hey guys, if my noob chatter is annoying, just tell me to shut up. I just type here to share thoughts. 17:59 hell no looksfar 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:49706 17:59 its all good :) 17:59 they get annoyed by MY drunken chatter... You're good to go ! 17:59 Hahaha oko 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased +2 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:49707 17:59 K2 that change to container ID is far and away my favorite new feature. 17:59 fun watching someone play for first times, and yeah that BUC ID with the container on altar is da bomb 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:49716 18:01 ask away any questons you have. It seems you are trying to not be overlyspoiled, but the people here can answer whatever you do want to know 18:02 @e? eldricth ki-rin 18:02 eldricth ki-rin ~2~ eldritch ki-rin (A) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -5 | Attacks: 2d4 kick physical, 2d4 kick physical, 3d6 butt physical, 2d6 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 18:02 close enough 18:02 looksfar: I never really played any variants before evilhack and got really hooked so be careful ;) 18:02 they're basically just like a regular ki-rin but chaotic 18:03 so i can't rev-geno? :( 18:03 nerp 18:03 i can make one if i zap poly at something enough in say, vlad's or something though i guess 18:03 (maybe i'll get an archon first ;) ) 18:03 rebatela Maybe just wish up a blessed figurine? 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:49723 18:05 yeah i could do that. but i'm not wasting a wish on it 18:06 find a saddle and some barding of reflection... i'd use a wish for ki-rin 18:06 vaderflag tamed one other day and it was immediately swalloed by a dragon on the next turn! mine just gotten eaten by a worm. 18:06 i had a saddle and a barding of reflection 18:06 the purple worm swallowed them 18:06 spiked barding will prevent your steed being engulfed 18:06 spiky 18:07 ouch 18:07 no eat 18:07 bad 18:07 (this just happened) 18:07 OR geno all the engulfers 18:07 i have this kitted out titan and was riding the eldritch kriin 18:07 with reflective barding 18:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:07 sweet 18:07 and you let it get eaten 18:07 Here's a general, not-too-spoilerish question. In vanilla unless I'm really feeling lucky I don't do the Mines below Minetown w/o MR or poly control. Are the lower Mines levels still about the same relative difficulty in EH? 18:08 have you gone into the mines yet in evilhack? 18:08 Yes, I'm in Minetown now. 18:08 ok so you've seen the rivers 18:08 Ran into water and aquatic creatures therein 18:08 pirahhna's will ruin your day 18:08 so, aside from the rivers, yeah diff is about the same 18:09 My run before this I was one-shot by a piranha, in fact 18:09 so just be careful of them they hide in the rivers 18:09 and the deeper you go, there's a chance you'll run into other water creatures other than jellyfish and pirahnas 18:09 Ah, ok 18:09 With a monk I'm particularly paranoid about not losing my starting robe 18:10 and sometimes, instead of rivers of water its rivers of sewage 18:10 One bad polytrap can ruin your game 18:10 looksfar: yep. watch out for polytraps if you want that robe 18:10 "Rivers of Sewage" - ick 18:10 (although they are more common in evil, you probably won't see one for a bit) 18:10 OK, back to nymph hunting then 18:10 the chances for polytraps are no different in evilhack vs vanilla 18:11 i was saying robes are more common 18:11 later in the game 18:11 ah 18:12 losing robe as monk early sucks. I will usually take it off when i get below 8 in the mines 18:12 but that's vanilla stuff definitely 18:15 although you get searching at xl 9 which certainly helps 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased +2 yellow dragon scales", on T:50436 18:18 "the good with the evil" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO9zzTilCxY 18:19 during the credits after the first half of lars von trier's Kingdom, he gives a little lecture. evilhack reminds me of its theme 18:19 Oh yeah, searching at 9. That makes IDing a ring harder 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:50482 18:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Pri Gia Mal Neu) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9996 18:21 the bad stuff worse, but also the good stuff better 18:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:9381 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 470 points, T:391, killed by a killer bee 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 48 points, T:206, killed by an electric shock 18:28 Welp, that orb didn't help at all and blew up in my face 18:28 Must be int-based, I'm dumber than a box of rocks 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Looksfar (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 20994 points, T:8355, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:33 Huh. I had 64hp I think, and a /oL one-shot me. 18:33 Guess those must be a lot more powerful 18:34 wand damage output hasnt changed 18:34 !lastgame looksfar 18:34 Looksfar: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Looksfar/evilhack/dumplog/1634832888.evil.html 18:35 bolt hit, 2 wands explode, bolt hits again (bounce) 18:35 Ah. It bounced and hit me twice. 18:35 :/ 18:36 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:36 Even still, pretty wretched luck. 18:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 781 points, T:2221, killed by a hobgoblin 18:41 Nothing like having a promising run wiped out in an instant to put me off NH for a while. Catch ya later, folks. :) 18:42 there's no promising runs in evilhack. They're all doomed 18:43 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Boom! goes the Monk] 18:45 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 416 points, T:1448, zombified by a hobbit zombie 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 908 points, T:2547, killed by a rabid rat 19:03 exit 19:03 oops heh 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 169 points, T:736, killed by a piranha 19:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:13 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful jackal, on T:1506 19:14 'lo 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1205 points, T:1691, quit 19:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:25 Darn, ran through all my polying without getting spellbooks of magic mapping, teleport away, or polymorph :-P 19:26 Wish spellbooks showed charges, having to name-count is irritating 19:27 Or had adjectives "worn", "badly worn", "ridden hard and put away wet" 19:28 You want the SLASH'EM variant branch then, they do that 19:28 You can't get rid of me that easily 19:28 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1926 points, T:1526, killed by a gnome lady 19:29 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 19:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:35 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:38 alright, i don't think i'm getting anymore gifts... might as well be crowned so i can see invisible again (I hope) 19:38 You finally get Dragonbane? 19:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:86564 19:39 no, i didn't 19:39 Awww 19:40 * rebatela shrugs 19:40 I'm loaded for bear this run -- bound for some stupid lazy death for sure 19:40 i have two wishes left. I could try for it 19:41 Ugh, going to have to genocide lava gremlins to get rid of all the peaceful f*cks 19:47 did you wish for your dragonbane? 19:50 I'm thinking of wishing for a +5 dragonhide alchemy smock of reflection 19:50 Nope, sacrificed for it -- got it around 40k I think 19:50 you cant add reflection 19:51 i know ;) just being silly 19:51 ah 19:51 thank you though 19:52 Wizard with Eye, Magicbane, Dragonbane, P'hul, Master Key, Frost Brand/Angelslayer, 4 spare wishes and full kit...unfortunately, just beginning Gehennom so there is plenty of time to get lazy and kill myself 19:52 my first decent gift MANY many turns ago actualy was a +4 alchemy smock, so at least chih sung-tzu was preparing me for the acid situation. I should have taken that as a hint that they werern't giving me dragonbane ever 19:53 I think for non-artifact gear the gods really need to use random-selection-without-replacement so you don't get 4 leather armor and 3 maces, etc. 20:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una) had a dark brown spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:10784 20:08 the last 3 times i've try to alchemize for full healing potions for the planes they all explode 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:62356 20:16 found your mammoth, tinklebear 20:23 maybe if I can get my Titan to kill the quest leader I won't get penalized so badly? 20:23 he's more decked out than me ! 20:24 do you have an aligned altar nearby? I think I mollified Anhur after about 20min of sacrificing down on dlvl 20 20:24 Ugh demilich Baphomet gate has almost done for me 20:24 totally forgot i need to kill him still and do all that sacrificing i should have done it before i did all the sacrirficing tyrying to get dragonbane 20:25 bouquet: yeah i have a dl 17 altar i think 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:62712 20:25 it's not so bad.. I just completely forgot (better remember now rather than post-killing rodney) 20:26 That was close 20:27 If that had been Graz'zt it would have all been over 20:28 my last ascension I got very lucky with demon lords. All have easily overcome resistances and respected my boulder fort. 20:35 yeah i like the new way how they are always different 20:36 You dealt with Grazz't or whoever already reba? 20:36 yeah 20:36 Coo 20:40 Grz is the WORST 20:40 I've died to it totally naked 20:41 The level scattered with destroyed boulder forts 20:42 yeah i think that was the first time i've gotten him/her 20:44 oh nice just got dragonhide gauntets of protection off a player monster giant valk... next best thing to dragonbane i guess 20:44 i was already wearing regular ones 20:45 +5 taboot 20:45 Sweet! Random dragonhide magical items almost never happen 20:45 now i can give mine to the titan 20:47 Latest evil already reintroduced the sling bullets right? 20:47 Or is K2 still working on that 20:47 yup 20:47 (in game) 20:47 Baller 20:47 I think they sell for too much $ tho, ez early cash 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Grand Master, on T:87101 20:48 * Umbire shrugs 20:48 can't take it with you 20:48 But clearly ascension proves you can 20:49 what's so baller about sling bullets? somehow they haven't turned my game around yet 20:50 I mean money-wise 20:50 may as well take it where you can get it 20:50 also that's just my response to hearing there were put in 20:50 hadn't heard any news on that so 20:50 was hoping you could enchant them or something, but no dice 20:53 "gnoll hunter, riding Mellaste the Turncoat" 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 12202 points, T:4253, killed by a giant cockroach 20:56 centaur knight with a lance is pretty fun! 20:56 Dual wield lances 20:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57 blessed +7 mithril lance of venom 20:57 well... I'll have to dual wield them in the afterlife 20:58 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/867ebecd963d10ec0214d2bf6accce9e32ca7dd4 20:58 ^ sling bullets. read the commit notes 20:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:13413 20:59 but can they be enchanted? 20:59 no 20:59 "literally unplayable" 20:59 they fall under rock/gem class 20:59 ;) 21:00 is for legacy reasons or is there some game balance being met by keeping them as gems? 21:00 amateurhour has stated that in dnethack, your strength is also a factor in how much damage using a sling will do 21:00 bouquet they're more like stones 21:00 but in dnh, it sounds like the strength bonus is way over the top 21:01 i could maybe do something similar, but more... realistic? reasonable? 21:01 Which is kinda silly given how slings work 21:01 exactly 21:01 There should be no strength bonus 21:01 HOWEVER 21:01 dexterity would play a much reater role 21:01 You should add a sling-staff 21:01 *greater 21:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:02 A real thing which would mean priests could use their missile weapons without having to fart around with swapping a 2H weapon 21:02 maybe 21:02 (just a quarterstaff that also acts like a sling) 21:02 Or make just one, a low-class artifact 21:02 And give it to the priest in the valley or something :-) 21:03 heh 21:03 swap out the mitre of holiness with a sling-staff 21:03 Oooh 21:03 I *hate* the mitre so I'm all for your joke suggestion 21:04 it wasnt a joke. kinda 21:04 i will add it to the etherpad as a maybe 21:04 Sacred Sling Staff 21:04 doing something like that would break saves, so it'd have to be for a future version 21:05 kinda like how the only atlatl you'll ever find is the arch artifact 21:05 But yeah, con or dex make more sense for a sling bonus than str 21:05 yup 21:05 what i can do NOW though, is perhaps add a dex bonus for sling damage 21:05 curious as to how dnh does it, would like to see just for knowledge sake 21:08 OR maybe figure out how to add enchantment to sling bullets 21:08 IS dnh not on github? 21:08 it is 21:08 here's my repo of it - https://github.com/k21971/dNetHack - and it has the link to the actual repo 21:17 !who 21:17 K2: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:20 It has been a while since I dropped a boulder fort on top of a boss -- do they do anything weird? Assume they can leave the boulder but not reenter? 21:21 right 21:23 some boss monsters can pick up boulders though, like the new caveperson quest nemesis 21:23 Would be EVIL if arcane casters could force bolt them 21:24 heh 21:24 new monster spell, force bolt 21:24 Or large monsters push them 21:24 Annam's a giant anywhere ain't he, it tracks 21:25 !who 21:25 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:25 anyway* 21:25 Where are all my evil buddies 21:25 krm26 if you dont mind saving real quickly, i can patch evilhack. will only take a sec 21:25 I'm out 21:25 and done, thanks 21:26 have a good night guys 21:26 Kathryn makes me nervous on a toon with low HP 21:28 Ugh, all I can do is poke her for a point of damage with my weapon 21:29 she's susceptible to fire 21:29 Yeah. This game has given me everything, EXCEPT fireball, cone of cold, teleport away, magic mapping, and polymorph :-) 21:30 Gonna poke her a few times with Angelslayer 21:31 polymorph is usually the only spellbook i'll use a wish on 21:33 Not wish for a marker and write it? 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:63513 21:34 i mean, as a wizard maybe 21:34 as a non wizard i'll only write like lvl 2 maybe 3 spellbooks unknown 21:35 wizard yeah. it's silly to wish for spellbooks 21:36 Aww, I just now noticed Koa, I am so dense... Sorry for you loss K2, a year late 21:37 its ok and thanks 21:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 Will a mastodon grow into a woolly mammoth? 21:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2706 points, T:4225, zombified by a kobold zombie, while praying 21:50 no 21:50 they are not the same 21:51 Darnies 21:51 Ok so I know you might have said it tongue-in-cheek, but I think giving all the purple demons a force bolt spell would be interesting 21:52 :D 21:52 (he says as he runs away to sleep) 21:52 (I said it seriously) 21:52 dispater used to spawn with a wand of striking 21:53 the thing is though, monsters will use a wand first over anything else 21:53 My most ignominious death ever, naked to Graz''z'z't, was because of an ice devil with a wand of striking 21:54 He still does doesn't he? 21:55 I at least saw it in the makemon.c, didn't scrutinize since I was looking for Graz'zt at that moment 21:55 i cant remember if i did away with his wand or not 22:00 was probably also using 0.7 to boot 22:00 lemme check master 22:00 alright goin to bed, gnite all 22:01 K2: still there, L1541 22:01 night! 22:05 !whereis krm26 22:05 bouquet: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:64506 Gehennom level: 37 22:06 krm26: how did you get 1000 encumberance with 12 str? 22:06 Riding the pegasus 22:06 ah, gotcha 22:07 So nice thinking I'll burn a wish on spiked barding 22:08 I'm terrible with keeping pets alive. I keep a traveling menagerie and just charm everything I find. 22:09 Riding sets carry cap to maximum 22:11 krm26: any reason you don't charm all the engulfers you come across? 22:14 Honestly I've never used charm monster in 30 years before this run :-) 22:14 I almost never play wizards 22:15 it's bound to get nerfed. It's easily the most powerful spell in the game. You can pacify up to 8 monsters in one shot. 22:15 plug, in evilhack, Dragons are 1-shot charm and will go around engulfing everything. Cleans up a level really nicely. 22:15 Well, as a level 5 enchantment it isn't available to many roles 22:16 indeed. 22:17 Could split the player spell (leaving the scroll alone) -- charm humanoid, charm beast, charm monster 22:18 That's a serious nerf since I bet the spell is most often used after someone summons nasties on you, and that'll be a mix 22:19 Or could jack the current charm to spell level 7 or 8 and put in a few lesser charms 22:20 let's not get carried away! I think lvl 7 would be tops. Maybe 6. I like the idea of breaking out the humanoid/beast/monster spells 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 3430 points, T:3499, killed by a giant mimic 22:31 fucking beholders, man 22:49 I concur 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:65610 22:54 Thanks, that dagger will be a big improvement on the Dragonbane and Frost Brand you already gave me 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:51954 22:54 I wonder if a pet genetic engineer can go around morphing enemies. 22:54 Yup 22:54 I have one right now 22:55 Every round it seems 22:55 wild 22:55 hopefully they turn them all into paper golems or something 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3117 points, T:3528, killed by a mastodon, while praying 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Neferet the Green, on T:65785 23:01 Uh oh: dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Home 1, Program in disorder! 23:02 Quest giver killed himself with acid 23:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Elf Mal Una) had a dog eared spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:15097 23:15 !tell K2: Neferet killed himself with an acid blast -- dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Home 1, Program in disorder! Reloading worked fine to the round before Neferet suicided 23:15 No worries, krm26, I've got this! 23:15 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 28479 points, T:12719, killed by a gnoll hunter, while sleeping 23:24 The hell was she acid blasting to kill herself with in the first place? 23:24 ha! I wonder if the quest complete flag got set 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 3356 points, T:2285, killed by an orc-captain