00:19 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 00:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:40725 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a silver dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:49874 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:51794 02:34 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 02:34 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [*.net *.split] 02:34 -!- K2 has quit [*.net *.split] 02:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by mercury.libera.chat 03:20 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:57 I had completely missed boldultrathin's infidel run ended in disaster 6 days ago 03:57 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orion/evilhack/dumplog/1630661856.evil.html 03:58 taking off armor to repair and then getting hit by your own pet basilisk, tragic 04:12 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:44933 04:34 ouch, free action = gold 05:32 How does a wand of striking *miss* 4 times in a row!? 05:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4647 points, T:5690, killed by a dwarf king 05:33 why is it that a temple priest casting protection interrupts waiting? 05:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Law) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Anu, on T:18319 05:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:18759 05:47 oh damn 05:48 gratz 05:48 I forgot that I needed to wield a long sword 05:48 /o\ 05:48 no gift :-( 05:48 oh wel, got my resistances at least 05:49 long sword is unrestricted now anyway 05:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9653 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1333 points, T:1144, killed by a kitten, while praying 06:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 301 points, T:454, killed by a bone crossbow bolt 06:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 140 points, T:643, killed by a guard 06:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1317 points, T:2081, killed by a dart 06:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 418 points, T:1150, killed by a dwarf lady 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 815 points, T:1209, killed by a pony 07:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13261 08:57 hai 09:27 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:03 Did evilhack add a command to clear all the invisible I markers in a recent patch? I can't seem to find what it is if so 10:03 removeimarkers 10:04 thanks 10:04 you can ^u for it if not using vikeys 10:04 feature taken from slex :^) 10:04 Very useful for infidel it turns out! 10:13 how come those in particular? 10:13 the amulet clarivoyance throws a lot of them up 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Rat King, on T:5067 10:15 That rat king ate 4 fire horn blasts, one magic missile and nearly a dozen psychic blasts, unreal 10:16 he's tough 10:16 or maybe you just had a series of bad rng rolls 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5767 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5802 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una), 11022 points, T:6040, killed by a mithril elven arrow 10:40 :/ 10:40 Soon as I found a silver alkys I knew that run was doomed 10:40 cleared the entire mines and found zero food that wasn't a fruit or cream pie 10:40 or delicious corpses of course 10:41 bleh 10:41 Otherwise I coulda just ignored that elf but i sez, surely he can't do 18hp in one round, even with those mithril arrows 10:45 ooh yes :P 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3058 points, T:2597, killed by a wand 11:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:47161 11:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:18444 12:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 12:41 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:01 spicyCebolla: I didn't make the alignment penalties harsher. I made them *lighter*. Repeatedly. The big change was, I took away the "you get a gazillion points of alignment every five minutes from killing random monsters" mechanic. The penalties were all much too high in vanilla 3.4, but no one ever noticed because they were still overwhelmed by all the free points you constantly got. 13:02 So then I had to A) rebalance the penalties and also B) invent new, saner mechanics for improving your alignment. 13:03 The latter was the hard part. 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 751 points, T:2111, killed by a gnoll 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2741 points, T:1839, killed by a bolt of cold 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 53 points, T:291, killed by an orcish dagger 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 392 points, T:1012, killed by a bolt of cold, while being terrified of a ghost 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:43133 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1800 points, T:1670, killed by a bolt of fire 14:08 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:23 K2: Hobbit pickpockets have claws instead of hands? 14:36 eh? 14:37 what sorcery is this? 14:45 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 14:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:47 (unfortunately I ate the evidence) 14:47 May have a bit of claw in my teeth still 14:49 om nom nom 15:00 hah 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5978 points, T:5152, poisoned by a jellyfish 15:11 you sure it was the jellyfish and not the piece of claw from questionable origins? 15:12 Ugh, that was my first irritating instadeath in quite a while 15:14 I really like the splicehack thingy where sometimes random monsters are "juiced-up" versions, like tack a fire gaze on a homunculus, etc. 15:14 monster templates I think they call it 15:14 slex has similar but calls them mutations I think? can't remember 15:14 It would be a nice evil addition since it is just infrequent random added complexity/difficulty 15:15 This lichen also stones you! 15:15 I got green slimed by one, had to pray to save myself 15:16 it sounds fun, until it isnt 15:16 I think if evilhack added it it'd be more simple to do it like slex does it, where you straight up add attack(s) rather than merging monster descriptions together 15:16 just remembered it's called egotypes in slex, not mutations 15:17 they started out in splicehack as agglomerations i think 15:17 confabulations 15:17 two random monsters spliced 15:17 I didn't play enough oldsplice to know they were in there 15:17 the closest thing to this that evil hack has are shambling horrors 15:17 Shambling horrors are excellent 15:18 i think its enough, at least for now 15:18 I think there should be one harder version of the shambling horror that like adds a new ability every time it hits an enemy or somesuch 15:18 omg lol 15:19 Like, with the wizard on the first elemental plane :-) 15:19 i've kicked around the idea of a lesser shambler 15:19 so early game characters and enjoy in the fun and wonderment of horrors 15:19 Another interesting thing would be a monster that permanently mirrors every ability it sees 15:20 oh geez 15:20 imagine one of those spawning in the bigroom 15:20 or astral 15:20 Ooooh yeah! 15:20 Now I'm hot for it 15:20 it viewed all three riders at once errmahgerd 15:21 Or a monster that drops no loot once dead, but mirrors your inventory for its own use 15:21 Right down to a mirror-version of Magicbane or Vorpal Blade or whatever :-) 15:22 Although I guess in a way all of these ideas just make ranged/magic focus even more powerful than it already is 15:22 aleax 15:22 that's a thing in unnethack 15:22 its armor and weapon mirror yours 15:23 what about a monster that has an termill bite attack, can revive, can convert other monsters into similar to itself, and can appear even on dlvl 2 15:23 shambling horrors? 15:24 A really subtly cruel attack would be one that swaps item assignments 15:24 sounds slexy 15:24 in dnh one of the demon lords has some really really nasty attacks 15:24 amateurhour thats so evil.. that sounds like zomies 15:24 zombies even 15:24 @d?lamashtu 15:24 Lamashtu (&) | Lvl: 107 | Diff: 60 | Spd: 24 | Res: fire disintegrate poison acid petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: Nat 20/Dodge 4/Prot 12 | Attacks: 3d7 bite vampire-drain, 3d7 touch steal-by-teleportation, 3d7 touch abduction, 0d7 cast clerical, 0d7 cast clerical | Alignment: -20 | Flags: nopoly, flies, stalker, covetous, poisonous, infravisible, demon, seeinvis 15:24 exit 15:24 touch steal-by-teleportation teleports your items around the current floor 15:24 oops 15:25 abduction? 15:25 touch abduction teleports you around I think 15:25 that sounds less annyoing than nymphs 15:25 lamashtu is almost unkillable lol 15:25 possibly worse than demogorgon 15:25 nymphs takes your stuff and use it sometimes. 15:26 anyway, the attack is really nasty, would be good for a new nasty mon... 15:28 demon boss zombie 15:30 zombie versions of every monster would be pretty nasty 15:32 Would they? Slowing a monster down often makes it enough easier that giving it a terminal bite won't make up the difference. 15:33 dnh has a lot of zombie versions of right? 15:34 yeah, and slex - I think they both allow marking any monster as a zombie 15:35 in slex they retain all their alive forms' attacks, and get a bite, and are stronger 15:35 in dnh they mix in the 'zombie faction' similar to splicehack's monster templates I think 15:35 could be wrong about dnh, been ages since I checked how that works 15:37 btw, my temple priest was pacified with a bologne sandwich and charm monster. 15:38 no cheese on that? 15:39 yeah nice work krm26 amateurhour. don't listen to them K2 :b 15:39 lol 15:39 bouquet the one who got mad because of some light? 15:40 K2: The cursed magic lamp needs just a touch more -- it should leave permanent darkness behind everywhere it goes 15:40 you ask so much 15:40 And gremlins should steal it 15:40 yes. The "light blinds adjacent monsters" is sometimes useful, but often problematic 15:40 I zapped a wand of light next to mine, maybe I was lucky it remained peaceful (but blind) 15:40 yes you were lucky 15:41 heh 15:41 side topic - https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/q6rmpb/elephant_pup_discovered/ 15:41 ^ awesome 15:41 Make the wand of light directional, solely for a cone of blinding effect 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Ran Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:49444 15:41 thats a wand of lightning 15:42 wand of lighting 15:42 wand of home decor 15:42 fabulous! 15:43 HEY how come the wand of light doesn't weight less than the other wands 15:43 that's not light at all! 15:44 TIL. I would have assumed we knew elephant pups existed for a long time. 15:46 heh 15:46 that's the coolest thing i've seen all day 15:46 'that's Ozzy, but bigger. much bigger' 15:56 Rhino pups are just as cute 15:56 I was at one of those thai elephant sanctuaries a while ago. Some of them are like GIANT dogs, but smarter. 15:59 Elephants are lucky, their species might make it into the next century, if food insecurity doesn't turn them into bushmeat 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] priyavt (Inf Hum Mal Una), 8 points, T:14, killed by a fox 16:03 alastair reynolds wrote a really awesome near-future series that included to a small extent Elephants with augmented intelligence. 16:03 i've read a couple titles by him before 16:03 Blue Remembered Earth 16:04 he's a master of "hard" scifi. 16:04 * K2 loves hard scifi 16:04 century Rain 16:04 *C 16:05 Stephen Baxter is a favorite of mine. Peter F. Hamilton too 16:06 he even did a scifi series targetted at young women called Revenger. About young ladies who take to a life of space piracy 10 million years in the future. 16:06 no elephants in that one 16:06 look up 'Hardfought' by Greg Bear. that's the story that inspired the server name 16:06 will diddly do 16:07 it's next in the queue 16:07 neat 16:08 I put 'Blue remembered Earth' in mine 16:08 book i'm reading right now is 'To Sleep in a Sea of Stars' by Christopher Paolini, per recommendation of a friend 16:08 its interesting 16:09 about a third of the way through it 16:09 I'm reading the same one RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND!! 16:09 I have similar taste, but my favourite is Iain M. Banks 16:09 rip... 16:09 bouquet lol are you serious?? 16:09 book club! 16:09 \o/ 16:09 it reads like he's angling for someone to make it into a tv series. 16:09 yeah, it could def become a series 16:10 I'm having a hard time shifting from the series I just finished which was in a very different style. (Broken Empire by Mark Lawrence) 16:10 Oh, a number of books by Sheri Tepper. rip too :-( 16:11 Love Banks 16:12 Favorite book by him is probably The Wasp Factory, or maybe Whit 16:12 Not even remotely hard SF tho :-) 16:12 The Bridge is sort of in between 16:13 Also, "The Business" 16:13 check out this story when you get a chance - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0032FZDU2/ 16:14 i go back and read it every few years or so 16:14 I remember reading In Conquest Born when it came out 16:15 Was having a hard time enjoying SF after reading some Wolfe and didn't stick to anything else until that book 16:15 i read part of it back when i was a teenager, i never finished 16:15 i should 16:16 my first exposure to hard scifi was 'I, Robot' 16:16 hooked ever since 16:16 mine was 2001 space odyssey 16:16 First SF I read, I think, was Have Spacesuit Will Travel -- was already huge fantasy/mythology wonk tho 16:16 bouquet have you read 2061 and 3001? 16:16 yes 16:17 \o/ 16:17 back in a bit 16:17 interesting thing about 2001 is he wrote it while developing the screenplay with Kubric. 16:18 So while Kubric decided to go to Jupiter, Clark decided on Saturn. 16:18 which is why the stories are slightly different in that regard. 16:18 Saturn's an extra year away, and with crappier moons! 16:19 ya 16:20 and Jupiter is where boys go to get more stupider 16:20 or so I've heard 16:31 Dammit, I keep finding my own shitty bones 16:31 There aren't enough people dying in evilhack 16:32 Hmm, is there any way to tame a ghost's homunculus pet? 16:34 tame the pet with charm monster. 16:34 Meant as in "taming food"... 16:36 only wraith corpses 16:36 can you tame with wraith corpses? 16:36 nah, they don't eat ;-) 16:37 Homunculi should feed on blood 16:38 they're little demons that warlocks summon to do nuisance tasks like cleaning and cooking 16:40 and dishes 16:40 is K2 a homunculus?! 16:43 greater homunculus 17:10 !8ball is K2 a homunculus? 17:10 NetSysFire: Yes 17:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 7101 points, T:10618, killed by an energy vortex 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una), 302 points, T:739, killed by a lesser homunculus, while sleeping 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a spellbook of levitation given to him by Anhur, on T:58101 17:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Law) killed Annam, on T:27461 17:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27463 17:49 phew, I was glad to have assistance from my water troll pet 17:50 Annam the Titan, nasty! 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1879 points, T:1663, killed by a giant ant 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1887 points, T:2437, killed by a quasit 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible Pacra's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1804 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (energy vortices), on T:50869 19:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 75 points, T:133, killed by a scroll of earth 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Rat King, on T:4113 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4503 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Orc Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8482 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Orc Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:8902 19:58 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:44707 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:59957 20:33 TIL: range on scroll of fire is garbage. 20:39 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of magic resistance, on T:37859 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide bag of holding", on T:38006 21:05 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Heretic, on T:3049 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2510 points, T:3083, killed by a champion of Thoth 21:24 That'll teach me, just assumed it was a guard 21:25 Cronos really screwed that Minetown up 21:43 was it the zoo one? 21:43 that garbage can leave many bones lol 21:44 No, normal Minetown but one of the several ghosts had screwed with the altar 21:44 ah gotcha 21:45 And after I wasted 200 turns bludgeoning their ghost to death with my quarterstaff too :-) 21:45 hehe 21:45 i'm always playing weaponless so can never hit ghosts until i bless gloves 21:48 Bone weapons can hit ghosts iirc 21:49 Yup, or bone gloves 21:49 Bone is a nice material 21:50 Although the best material is stone in splicehack, since their material properties is screwed up and every single piece of stone gear weighs 1 aum 21:52 Interesting 21:52 * Umbire goes to snitch-tag antigulp 21:52 They added a material, but not in every array that defines material properties 21:52 (I reported it in github) 21:53 The way that stuff is set up is just BEGGING for errors 21:53 With multiple arrays in different places relying on absolute position 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Orc Mal Una) made his first wish - "cursed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11711 22:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5851 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:6950 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 247753 points, T:50395, choked on an orange dragon corpse 22:51 Doh! 22:51 That's rough at 50k turns 22:53 D: 22:53 !lastgame coplate 22:53 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/coplate/evilhack/dumplog/1633995925.evil.html 22:54 damn 22:54 Had so many opportunities to stop eating 22:55 Got intrinsic tunnel vision 22:56 :/ 22:56 gonna crash, gnite all 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:62416 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 12595 points, T:9043, killed by a gnoll hunter 23:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:63849