00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:80113 00:47 has anyone ever gotten the eye from vecna? I'm 0 for 5 now 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:80161 00:51 that was convenient! Vecna's throne gave me a genocide. 00:55 lmao 01:06 does vecna keep his eye somewhere else? 01:07 No 01:07 He either drops the Hand and/or Eye or he don't 01:10 I didn't think the hand was in eh, just slash'em? 01:12 Nope, can drop either one 02:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:57 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:54 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I've started with a wand of digging 3 out of the past 4 games. 05:21 Wand of digging is my second favorite wand. 05:22 my favorite is wand of wishing 05:25 Same. 05:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 723 points, T:2040, killed by a dwarf lord 05:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1477 points, T:2482, killed by a piranha 06:06 !tell Umbire Vecna can only drop the eye in evilhack 06:06 Will do, mobileuser! 06:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5133 points, T:4169, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a potion 06:28 Weird bones, was just in minetown, found a dragonhide robe, which is awesome, and what seems to be a magical cloth studded armour (which makes me drain resistant). 06:29 But there's also some sort of orc shaman whom neither myself nor my pet pseudodragon can land a hit on. 06:37 I think what happened is a high-level player died in it, so the monsters are all much tougher? 06:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 So far have not found the grave headstone - it's as if the game doesn't think it's a bones level at all. But the loot and damage... It has to be bones. 06:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:52 FINALLY! The ghost has appeared: coplate-Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu, killed by a hill orc called Ogothog of Aunai, while praying. 06:56 Hecubus, my messages please 06:56 VaderFLAG: Message from mobileuser at 2021-09-22 04:25 EDT: congrats on the 4 altar trip ascension! 06:57 I love it when low level monsters are like hill orc called Ogothog 5/5hp -500ac 06:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5062 points, T:5930, poisoned by an orcish arrow 06:58 Damn. Poisoned. 06:58 Hate-hate-hate poison. 06:59 And it sucks that there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. 07:00 I was 15% resistant. 07:05 Poison thing is actually a bit frustrating. 07:09 Hmm, weird. Found the same minetown bones. 07:09 poison instadeath is fair and balanced 07:10 luck is a part of skill 07:10 just get good :) 07:10 that's why I have invested in lucky rabbit feet 07:11 I eat every single item that grants poison resistance - including bees. 07:15 arahael, try orc wizard! 07:15 poison res from the start 07:15 Hmm, I probably should! I'm used to having poison res from almost the start. 07:17 Those orcish archers are a real problem 07:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Adept, on T:1449 07:25 Wow, coplate had GDSM. 07:25 Now no need for my cloak of MR. 07:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2290 07:47 Geez yall are finding ghosts left and right 07:47 arahael: one of the many reasons I play monk (full PR at xl 3) 07:47 Feel like I haven't seen a ghost in ages 07:48 rebatela: Yeah, monks are _awesome_. 07:48 i don't even go into the mines until lvl 3 07:49 Easy. :) 07:51 And monk is amazing in evilhack, despite the armour penalties which are severe. 07:52 But a good balance, though. They'd be way too OP otherwise. 07:53 i think giant monk is my favorite, although obviously you can wear even less armor 07:53 VaderFLAG law of large numbers ;-) 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11931 07:55 rebatela: Less than even Centaurs! 08:07 Someone wrote a law that says arahael gets a large number of ghosts but I don't?! Seems unjust 08:08 I agree. Ghosts are problematic. 08:08 they scare me, even. Another good reason to play as a monk. 08:08 Why do I almost always miss when using my blessed +1 quarterstaff? 08:21 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Cav Dwa Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:1334 08:35 Woo! 54% poison resistant. I guess that means I don't suffer from poison instadeath now? 08:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6283 08:36 That sounds right. above 30 or 35% maybe is no more instadeath? 08:36 Nice. 08:36 yeah wiki says 35 08:37 Nice. 08:41 yup that's the magic number for no poison instadeath 08:41 seven killer bee corpses will get you to 35% 08:41 (at 5% each) 08:42 larger monsters that confer poison res will get you there quicker 08:42 more fasterly 08:43 Noooo! Bees killed my pseudodragon. 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Cav Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1717 08:47 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 08:51 Sad that I lost my pseudodragon. :( 08:51 If it makes you feel any better I have your pseudodragon as a pet 08:52 VaderFLAG: Take good care of them! They're awesome to ride. 08:55 i love finding pseudodragon bones 08:56 This is the worst minetown shop roll I've ever seen ONE shop outside of Izchak, and its contents were: normal whistle, key, mimic, and credit card 08:57 my last game where i made it to minetown was like that hah 08:58 its like 'wtf am I supposed to do with these 5 tin openers?' 09:07 Still no Infidel VaderFLAG? :-) 09:07 Not yet 09:07 heh 09:07 no balls 09:07 ^ now you have to 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Cav Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed SeamusMcRed's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3369 09:17 I shall not be taunted! 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Cav Dwa Mal Neu), 2829 points, T:3398, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 09:18 That sucks so bad 09:18 Nooooo.... 09:18 ugh 09:18 nice caveman 09:19 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:19 you gotta do the thing with the stuff 09:19 poison spike pit is easily my least favorite way to die 09:20 !lastgame vaderflag 09:20 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1632312767.evil.html 09:20 wasn't even in the mines - I left the mines because of poison pits! 09:21 :( 09:23 I can never figure out wether it's worth upgrading a skill slot. What benefit, objectively, does say, updating daggers give you? 09:23 And should I upgrade daggers or staff, as an example? 09:23 dagger skill isnt quite as important for an evilhack wizard vs vanilla wizard 09:23 since magicbane is now a quarterstaff 09:24 however, if you want to toss daggers at things, its still desireable to train up 09:24 or if you find grimtooth and want to kick ass with it 09:24 I tend not to toss daggers - daggers are heavy. 09:24 I do currently have a steel dagger of fire, though. 09:25 Hmm. Amulet. Tool. Or Armour. Already have MR. 09:26 BoH would be nice, especially since I don't have a bag at all, but not that essential. 50/50 with magic marker is amazing, though, so could be worth it. 09:26 "oReflection would be ideal, though. 09:26 50/50 though. :( 09:27 yolo 09:27 All three doors are (blown) open. 09:28 I should save the game and continue tomorrow. It's getting late. 09:28 yeah dont play sleepy 09:28 I almost always play sleepy! 09:28 lol 09:28 But I think Ballmer peak has helped me in this particular game. 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a large shield entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15146 09:30 hah centaur knight is the new hot race/role combo to play 09:30 K2: Btw, I think if you drink *two* beers, you should get a temporary, significant boost in Int, Dex, and Con. Very temporary. 09:30 who could have predicted that :^) 09:30 Like, maybe 2-4 turns. 09:30 VaderFLAG, now having ascended centaur knight twice in rapid succession - impressions? and not just with the race/role but overall. good and bad 09:30 amateurhour :P 09:31 arahael dorf elixir boost 09:31 glugglugglug 09:31 Yep, it'd be super awesome! 09:31 And the commit message should reference Ballmer peak. 09:32 :) 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15188 09:32 Or perhaps just http://xkcd.com/323/ 09:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:33 K2: Or even better! Have a potion in the dwarf king's cellars, *named XKCD323*, that has that effect! 09:34 lol 09:34 that cartoon never gets old 09:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:35 He's _awesome_. 09:37 !who krm26 09:37 arahael: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 09:38 * arahael rolls eyes. 09:38 !whereis krm26 09:38 arahael: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Kni Cen Fem Cha) T:14806 The Dungeons of Doom level: 10 09:38 Ah, another Centaur Knight. 09:38 centaur knight is COOL 09:38 What's super good about them? 09:39 Apart from now having a lance. 09:39 they're both rider and steed in one 09:39 Yes? 09:39 no need to ride to joust 09:39 AND 09:39 it's a COOL idea 09:39 Seems Centaur Monk is still better - ah, but they don't do Jousting, do they? 09:39 no need to ride to joust is BIG 09:39 * arahael never 'got' the whole "cool" thing. 09:40 YUGE 09:40 EPIC 09:40 EPICOOL 09:40 CARL 09:40 DIRGE \o/ 09:40 \o/ 09:40 What's the thing about jousting, anyway? 09:40 it's epic 09:41 opponent can't react after a joust 09:41 lots of free attacks 09:41 plus you can dismount monsters which is just cool :-) 09:41 Oh, wow. At Expert level, you've got 80% chance of jousting. 09:42 yeah 09:43 Ok, so you won't even notice the AC penalty of not wearing boots with that. 09:43 Even better than centaur monks. 09:44 get the luckstone first or you might be sad 09:44 Yeah, I saw that table. 09:44 seriously want high luck. 09:44 as I learned the hard way 09:44 heh 09:44 so amateurhour. i keep adding all these neat things you say you wanted to see added 09:44 and yet you dont play 09:44 this makes me sad 09:45 I played a game of centaur knight the other day 09:45 lies 09:45 truth 09:45 We need photo evidence. 09:45 I saw 09:45 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1631964824.evil.txt 09:45 K2 Knight was already one of my favorite classes; centaur knight makes jousting finally seem worthwhile. I think the late game is in a really good place right now difficulty-wise. I've been trying to think of things to gripe about but coming up short. 09:45 \o/ 09:45 get with amateurhour he can help you 09:45 Though I think I am in favor of underlining peacefuls but that's such a minor QOL thing 09:46 running out of things to complain about :P 09:46 haha 09:46 It is a minor hassle to constantly be ; checking when you're stormbringering 09:47 VaderFLAG if you're going to go for caveperson next, see this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e8ef3991947bcadeaa27531bad9b6ba03f745666 09:47 that info needs to go up on the wiki 09:47 which variants have hilight peaceful or whatever? 09:48 all of the nh4 based variants i think 09:48 xnethack maybe? 09:48 xnethack has underline I think 09:49 K2: That looks pretty good! One comment: > * Cavepersons can strike flint against objects made of iron, producing <-- I can also do that, as an illithid wizard? 09:49 i dont believe so 09:49 its a caveperson only skill 09:49 try it just to see 09:49 K2: I definitely can, it's how I identify flint from the other grey stones. 09:50 K2: In every game I play as illithid wizard. 09:50 hah 09:50 I usually identify flint when some bastard shoots lots of gray stones at me 09:51 But nice tip :-) 09:51 Heh, I then pick those up and apply them to anything iron so that it gets the flint name. :) 09:51 ah nice! 09:51 Mind you - typically scares the pet remarkably well. 09:51 i guess it makes sense for anyone to do it 09:51 cavepersons should be much better at it though 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:28821 09:52 K2: Perhaps cavepersons should be able to identify loadstones without picking them up. 09:52 That'd balance it. 09:54 Well, G'night! 09:56 gnite 09:57 something dnh does that makes slings worth using is adding str bonus to the damage 09:57 Nice. Cavemen sure could use some flavoring up given their relative wimpiness 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:16543 09:57 so slings in dnh are actually kinda great 10:08 in real life, how strong you are doesnt really have a bearing on how much damage an object launched from a sling will do though 10:09 plus bullets were recently added? 10:09 yes 10:09 sling bullets specifically 10:09 should make sling more attractive 10:09 heh 10:10 silver sling bullets have just entered chat 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:28826 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by the Wizard of Yendor), on T:98913 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:98914 10:22 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:22 ooof that's the third time rodney has killed him this game 10:23 must have found the "oLS thrift store 10:23 current wizard has MR 10:24 a wizard could dispatch rodney without too much trouble if they have the right spells 10:25 for some reason he is blind... 10:25 oof and down to 117 maxhp 10:25 this isn't going to end well 10:26 this is like the 2nd or 3rd time he's gotten really far. just seems to make some poor decisions 10:26 or just not planning far enough ahead 10:26 no acid res each time 10:26 ^ and there's several sources for acid res 10:26 acid resist ring when? 10:27 Does he know about the promotion of acid to important factor in evil? It is generally ignorable in vanilla 10:27 i dunno. there's the apron, yellow dragon scales/scale mail, wielding dirge, wearing dragonbane 10:28 krm26 who knows 10:28 Honestly, with only one "elective" ring slot, making rings of anywhateverfuckingthing doesn't really muck with balance much 10:28 Giants can't wear aprons, right? I guess the strings aren't long enough :) 10:29 right 10:29 oh well :) 10:29 having a 2nd giant-friendly source of acid resist would be nice 10:29 there is 10:29 I still think there should be maybe one more slot it is possible to get free action in 10:29 dirge/dragonbane 10:29 krm26 i added one already 10:29 Or a spell of free action, like there is a spell of reflection 10:29 shield of mobility 10:30 it would be nice if shield of mobility wouldn't hinder spell casting 10:30 only chaotic knights can get dirge, which giants can't be 10:30 Yeah, sorry, I *did* see the shield, but that is only ever workable for a narrow subset of players 10:31 maybe a shield of acid resist, that would be a nice tradeoff for some classes 10:31 Maybe putting free action in another highly contested and valuable slot, like on a cloak -- even if it was an artifact cloak that was hard to get or had to be wished for 10:32 I've just blown up my third bag of holding in about a week, starting to feel like it is a disease 10:32 VaderFLAG chaotics could wish for dirge 10:32 or it could be found in bones 10:32 hmm anything could wish for dirge 10:32 just get blasted if not chaotic 10:37 K2 do dragons still have a passive attack when attacked from a distance with a polearm or lance? 10:37 But you'd never wish for dirge as a giant, you'd wish for dragonbane 10:37 mobileuser good question 10:37 i've never tested that 10:38 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Passive_attack 10:38 VaderFLAG *you* might not but who's to say others wont? 10:38 probably OK... 10:40 I guess I'm saying that if your goal is acid resist then wishing for dirge is illogical, even for barbarian giant, the only giant who might even think about using it 10:41 Ok when I said I had no gripes earlier, I lied! More sources of acid resist and/or make half spell damage apply to acid blast! 10:41 Gripe submitted! 10:42 good complaint 10:42 Counter-gripe: VaderFlag hasn't left my a good bones in a while, so I think there are plenty of good sources of acid resist. Unless he backs my comment on free action of course 10:42 I just dropped a fantastic bones today 10:43 2 magic lamps 10:43 Oooo 10:43 dlvl5 10:43 all my scrolls/potions were off in the stash but it's solid 10:43 Too bad I'm probably stuck running this vegetable another week before I die in a stupid fashion 10:43 Free action as an obj property would be fine by me, ENDORSED 10:44 Sadly my bones has no bags of holding to be exploded 10:45 ok totally hypothetical question unrelated to any current game underway. If you disconnect from a session while you're in a --more--, say, from taking an item out of the bag, how does the system handle that? Finishes your more for you then gives the monsters their turn(s) then saves? 10:45 Maybe there should be another resist, which doesn't make you immune to immobilization, but reduces its duration -- so when you ate your way to 100% of the resist it would like halve the maximum paralysis or something. Makes free action slightly less mandatory 10:46 basically that VaderFLAG 10:46 it puts default inputs for you until it gets back to where you'd control it again and saves iirc 10:46 I have ascended a game without free action, but I had to be extremely careful 10:46 freeactionless conduct \o/ 10:47 So if you die on the remaining turn, it auto-dywypis for you? 10:47 ive done it in vanilla many times. wouldn't risk it in evil 10:47 think so yeah 10:48 Yeah, more official conducts! 10:48 Never zapped a wand 10:48 heh 10:48 Never caused conflict 10:48 Never drank a healing potion 10:49 Never cast a spell 10:49 never owned dragonbane 10:49 "Never caused conflict" is in xnh I think 10:50 Never owned dragonbane being a reasonable conduct is good commentary on how outrageously good dragonbane is 10:50 YOU SHUT UP ABOUT DRAGONBANE 10:50 what the hell are you trying to do 10:51 Next you'll come for my Ring of P'hul 10:51 That's right, I'll say it -- nerf Dragonbane! 10:51 Remove reflection or acid resist! 10:51 Phul is fine since it's a quest artifact, those should be broken 10:52 what if it didn't have acid res but there was a ring that did? 10:52 Yes I think that's a good approach 10:52 dragonhide reflection gloves are still great 10:57 Make acid resist a % resist like fire/cold/elec and have Dragonbane give a lower % maybe -- 50 or whatever 10:59 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:12 I think ring of acid resist is already a thing in some variants 11:12 unnethack? 11:13 nope 11:13 not spork, fourk, or fiqhack, either. what the heck am I thinking of 11:15 not even slex 11:16 https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/23.html maybe 11:32 how about we leave dragonbane alone? thanks 11:49 * K2 whips out his artifact weapon - The Nerf Bat 11:49 * K2 starts swinging 11:49 muhahahaha 11:49 I kid, I kid 12:01 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 1012 points, T:2980, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:08 ^ nymph 12:08 go team n! 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 207 points, T:980, killed by an acidic corpse 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 859 points, T:1021, killed by trying to drink molten lava 12:25 !lastgame eziono 12:25 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eziono/evilhack/dumplog/1632327441.evil.html 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:18788 12:26 krm26: what colour is the beard on that axe? 12:27 Not the right color, for a second thought I got Dramborleg 12:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:69928 13:03 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:35 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:36 Damn, with centaur corpses being so hard to move getting Dirge as a centaur knight is a real chore 13:37 just lure them onto your altar 13:37 "just" 13:38 yeah :) 13:38 Can't do that in a temple 13:38 kill temple priest, prob solved 13:38 :P 13:38 You're full of great ideas 13:39 only kind I have 13:39 if you kill them right outside the temple, how many floor tiles away are you 13:39 how far you have to lug over the corpse 13:40 YANI: new tool - snatch block. used in conjunction with a grappling hook, can be used to drag heavy objects over to your location 13:40 Question is academic in any case, centaurs aren't growing on trees around here 13:40 I've always thought if your hands are empty you should be able to drag a really heavy corpse 13:40 K2's back enters chat 13:41 hard no 13:41 Or push, like a boulder 13:41 that's even worse hah 13:42 Or chop up and then reassemble with a sewing kit at your target location! 13:42 "Accept this...almost...pristine...gift!" 13:42 the gods love frankenstein sacrifices 13:43 lol 13:46 Weeiird, not a single vault 13:46 That doesn't seem possible 13:49 improbable perhaps, not impossible 13:50 gold vault generation rules are same as vanilla 13:52 Yeah, I meant "statistically so unlikely that I must have missed one" 13:57 ah 13:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:71928 13:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:71929 14:02 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:07 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16 krm26 I managed to solve my centaur weight problem by dropping nearly everything an looting my BoH on the ground 14:17 Yeah, I think mostly naked you can manage it even without GoP, just? 14:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 86 points, T:290, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:20 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2761 14:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:23 -!- Guest2761 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:23 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:72043 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22995 14:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:23077 14:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:00 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:02 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:08 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 15:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:45 I came across a silver 2H sword and was considering saving it for vampires and demons, but Sword of Kas seems to be putting a pretty big dent in everything as-is. 15:46 since I'm chaotic I don't get the 2x dmg against V and &... so I should probably carry the silver 2H around just in case. 15:53 Ye 15:53 Umbire: Message from mobileuser at 2021-09-22 06:06 EDT: Vecna can only drop the eye in evilhack 15:53 Oh huh 16:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JzuTX 16:27 [EvilHack] k21971 e5aac4f - Fix: silence compiler warning in droppables(). 16:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 epinephrine ^ 16:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:31 why can't we get two of Vecna's eyes huh 16:31 k2 cool. thanks I'll test it later tonight 16:32 amateurhour - because vecna was a pirate when he was living 16:32 can we poke them in their remaining eye to make them blind? 16:32 no 16:32 no poking 16:32 that's mean 16:33 there's some other Wstringop-overflow which I haven't looked into yet. would you appreciate an issue report or not something you are interested in? 16:33 i'm interested 16:33 probs gonna be vanilla though 16:33 usually supress those there's so many 16:33 *suppress 16:34 I don't doubt it's also in vanilla 16:37 string_fortified.h:95:10: warning: ‘__builtin_strncpy’ 16:37 string_fortified.h:95:10: warning: ‘__builtin___strncpy_chk’ 16:38 can compile a more complete report later. appreciate the work being done here 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:83348 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:83348 16:40 thanks, you as well 16:40 if it's in vanilla, sending an email to the dev team or using the contact form would probably be a good idea 16:41 full disclosure - i'm not a programmer. i'm still learning, slowly but surely. you're bound to ask me questions that I have no clue about :) 16:42 one sec i'll show you what warning crop up when you compile vanilla nethack when no warnings are suppressed 16:43 portage catches the more problematic warnings and triggers an addional qa notice. so far the ebuild and code is running clean from that regards. 16:46 https://termbin.com/3k7t 16:46 ^ the droppables() fix commit hadn't been pulled in yet 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Dwarfkiller (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 5940 points, T:6229, killed by an air elemental of Brigit 16:48 compiling nethack 3.6.6 or evilhack will have different warnings of course. this just gives you an idea of what we've seen with vanilla nethack for a long while 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:11356 17:13 antivirus nooo 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 18294 points, T:11356, killed by an exploding magical bag 17:14 wow 17:14 died to the boh 17:14 !lastgame antivirus 17:14 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AntiVirus/evilhack/dumplog/1632177260.evil.html 17:14 oh man 17:15 > C - an uncursed +0 Hawaiian shirt with a giant eel motif (being worn) 17:15 at least he was all dudded up for his death 17:16 "Your shirt is obscured by your dragon mail" can't read :-( 17:20 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:39 we should be able to wear it like a hockey jersey, outside our armor. 17:40 anyone have a strategy for flame/freeze sphere? 17:40 As in using the spell? 17:41 You could probably use it solidly while in a boulder fort 17:43 ya 17:44 maybe summon a swarm to counter an archon storm 17:44 or fill plane of fire with them 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:25377 17:51 I was thinking of using revgeno'd spheres to possibly bombard demon princes and lords 17:51 Spell would do that but better I'm sure 17:56 "The spectre wields a silver flail! The spectre wields a bow!" 17:56 repeated 100 times 17:57 can't make up its mind 17:58 that happens when you're in a certain position relative to the monster and they could either move to you or hit you with ranged. 17:59 yeah I'm just waiting for Yeenoghu to warp to me :-) 17:59 but he's not on the upstairs, but hanging around over lava 17:59 what's the matter with him... 18:00 I wanted to kill him before going to bed :-) 18:00 oh well, tomorrow 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:11209 18:07 WOOHOO! 18:17 nice gratz 18:19 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:28 omg finally, dex gloves, and they're dragonhide!! 18:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 32587 points, T:12939, killed by a wolf 18:29 rip arahael 18:29 !lastgame arahael 18:29 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1632308387.evil.html 18:30 A wolf? No, I was crushed by a mumak. :( Whilst surrounded. Was a bit of a mistake, actually, I was thinking "maybe I should go up and get my scroll of earth. Make a nice fort. But I thought with AC -16, I could do it. But I forgot to look out for mumaks. 18:30 Grabbed me, I couldn't escape. 18:32 It's so sad, but this was absolutely a YASD. 18:33 Yet Another Stoopid Death. 18:39 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Grand Master, on T:76809 18:50 Oooh. 18:57 K2: a basilisk turned my dragon to stone. I cast stone to flesh on it but it's status is "solidifying". 18:57 and then it turns to stone again 18:57 after a while it stops turning to stone 18:57 Think it also froze the stoning timer somehow 19:03 ugh 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1221446 points, T:87308, petrified by a beholder 19:03 there's a well stocked statue in gehennom if anyone wants it 19:03 F 19:05 oh no :( 19:05 rip 19:06 burdened + stoning = ded 19:06 i was watching you play and was jealous of your pets 19:07 rip 19:07 "the menagerie" 19:07 magic whistle them over and your problems are swallowed right up! 19:08 i never found charm monster or a harp. I've been polying spellbooks whole game 19:09 and of course I just learned ID and Magic Mapping (now that everythings id'd and everything's mapped) 19:09 i've killed everything but i don't have enough stuff to do planes i don't think. I need full healings etc. 19:11 healing is smoky and I drank a bunch of them trying to get a wish that I should have alchemized instead... 19:11 the riders and their horses hit hella hard so I was planning to play 100k rounds just to get enough full healing potions to max my health 19:11 yeah, I'm gonna altar camp if I have to for another 20k turns or so myself 19:11 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 19:12 i don't really care about turn count in this game. I'd rather not splat! 19:16 it may just be my playing style, but eh (to me) requires over-preparing like mad to survive the planes. I think there's an imbalance there that needs to be righted 19:17 I have no idea how, though 19:21 i way overprepare as well 19:23 !lastgame bouquet 19:23 bouquet_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1631915578.evil.html 19:25 looks like a STOPMSG for "You meet the beholder.*" 19:25 is in order 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a blessed +4 quarterstaff on an altar, on T:4508 19:33 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4070 points, T:4662, poisoned by an orcish arrow 19:49 bouquet_ thanks i'll look into it 19:59 I wonder if the dragon was then re-turned to stone by the basilisk. 20:22 bouquet_ there's no bug 20:22 your dragon wasnt stone yet when you cast 'stone to flesh' on it 20:23 however.... 20:24 * NetSysFire casts summon insects 20:24 it should have worked, justlike it works on the player when they're being turned to stone 20:28 should be an easy fix 20:28 Hence me speculating the stoning timer somehow got froze 20:28 prob just jinxed it 20:29 Umbire no that's not it 20:29 It usually isn't, but go on 20:29 look in zap.c line 502 on 20:31 'kay, I'm there 20:31 notice anything? 20:32 I'm noticing a lack of anything outside stuff for turning stone golems to flesh 20:32 exactly 20:32 Mhm 20:32 So mvm just stones the monster as usual 20:32 no, it doesnt do anything 20:33 just need to add a condition for monsters in the process of being slow stoned 20:33 Right 20:33 food time, bbl 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 953 points, T:2462, killed by an ancient pseudodragon called Friend 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide elven helm of ESP", on T:25278 21:40 K2: actually, that was the second time it happened. Earlier in the game I left the dragon stoned for quite a few turns before returning to un-stone it and he turned to stone again. 21:42 hmm 21:42 i thought we had addressed all that nonsense 21:45 is the intent that being only burdened is essentially a death sentence when a beholder gazes at you? Or is the timer too agressive? 21:47 for being stoned? 21:50 bouquet_ ^ 21:51 if i die because some stupid hobbit keeps throwing rocks at me, i was also stoned 21:53 bouquet_: That's just standard for stoning anything 21:53 You lose intrinsic speed and the timer is already fairly short besides, if burdened it's effectively even shorter 21:54 Been the case since vanilla 21:55 beholder slow stoning gaze attack is same as being stoned by a footrice 21:55 you have about 4 turns to do something about it. maybe a bit more if very fast 21:55 Yep 21:56 if burdened or worse, good luck 21:56 Assuming your speed boots weren't disintegrated immediately 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 572 points, T:1815, killed by a giant mosquito 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 756 points, T:1837, killed by a boulder 22:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:25984 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:26004 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:26434 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1480 points, T:2227, killed by a giant ant, while being terrified of a ghost 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27887 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Eyes of the Overworld", on T:27353 23:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2575 points, T:3009, killed by a piranha 23:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1239 points, T:2249, killed by a human zombie 23:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2432 points, T:3636, killed by a bolt of cold