00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 993 points, T:2027, killed by a mountain dwarf 00:21 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 00:23 !setmintc 1500 00:23 NetSysFire: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for netsysfire set to 1500 00:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:29 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 00:30 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 00:41 -!- lacca[m] has quit [*.net *.split] 00:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1435 points, T:2283, killed by a piranha 00:48 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 01:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 168 points, T:1467, killed by an arrow 01:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 819 points, T:1423, killed by a piranha 01:07 Double bones, that one. 01:07 Survivable, but I had no food to tame the pet. :( 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 232 points, T:1779, died of starvation, while fainted 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 631 points, T:1358, killed by a fox 01:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Jason (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 248 points, T:405, killed by a piranha 01:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 01:51 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:00 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 04:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:19033 04:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:884 04:47 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 517 points, T:890, killed by a water demon 04:59 I've lost my pet. :( 05:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Paladin of Issek, on T:124203 05:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:124206 05:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible AntiVirus' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2944 05:21 AntiVirus's bones had *nothing* on his gravestone! 05:21 scammed! 05:22 I did get his pet, though, so I have a pseudodragon again. 05:24 heh 05:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:4090 05:48 I'm pleased I spelt that correctly, I die a little inside every time I typo that. 05:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:19389 05:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8084 points, T:6560, killed by a giant cockroach 06:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2303 points, T:3783, killed by a gnoll 06:36 Woah. Got *swamed* by Gnolls. They literally generated right next to me. I should've gotten the message "you feel hemmed in". 06:36 !lastgame 06:36 arahael: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1632111773.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AntiVirus/evilhack/dumplog/1632126990.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1632132248.evil.html 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15086 07:33 Manannan Mac Lir is getting annoyed 07:35 The beef is justified 07:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:20 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JznyO 08:20 [EvilHack] k21971 f23508f - Tweak how not abusing alignment affects altar sacrifice gift chance. 08:27 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 08:37 bad alignment reduces altar gifts? 08:37 no if you never abused your alignment you have a better chance of getting a gift 08:38 but not by as much anymore for some reason 08:38 it is because K2 is evil 08:39 noone ever manages to never abuse their alignment anyway :P 08:39 its a slight tweak 08:39 very slight 08:39 early saccing there's a good chance you havent abused yet 08:44 Maybe monster difficulty should influence the odds of getting a gift or an artifact vs regular gift 08:45 Apologies if I've suggested this before 08:56 the higher your level the higher the chance of getting a gift afaik 09:00 ^ higher chance of the gift being an artifact 09:03 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:28 qt - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/ce0a2c33015f139a5905203ec0134a363487a0d1 09:31 trying to figure out the best way to address those new maps in sokoban that have pits left over after solving the level, but the game doesnt flag it as complete 09:32 easiest solution is to just get rid of those extra pits 09:32 not sure that's the 'best' way to address it though 09:34 maybe you could use replace the "check whether no pits exist any more" test with some use of floodfill to test whether the up/downstairs have an accessible path connecting them 09:34 huh 09:35 it's possible to complete the puzzle without a path between stairs though 09:35 see for example 2a 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ogre, on T:17956 09:35 maybe something like 'if the upstairs is used, map complete' ? 09:35 what blocks the path between stairs in that case? a boulder? 09:36 yeah 09:36 K2: that would mark the first one complete if you just crawl thru the pits 09:36 true 09:36 I _think_ floodfill ignores boulders 09:36 oh, and branchport shenanigans 09:37 probably the most straightforward solution is just to remove the extra pits though 09:38 yeah 09:41 1n is gonna look weird if you do that 09:41 oh well 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:60078 09:43 i'll play around with the map and see 09:44 what was the other one? 1L? 09:44 (and are there any more you're aware of) 09:44 1g 09:45 that one isnt in evilhack 09:45 then I guess just 1l and 1n 09:45 assuming every evilhack one is on the unnethack page 09:46 it is 09:46 i purposely didnt add all of them 09:46 just the ones i thought were cool 09:47 and by me I mean qt. he calls all the shots, I'm just a puppet 09:48 i thought you are the puppet of your daughter. when can we have a little pet snow man^wgolem named olaf? 09:48 hahah 09:48 valkyria starting pet 09:49 valkyries should benefit from winged helmets 09:49 +2 to cha 10:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:60966 10:19 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:27 k2 i actually got a proof of concept working that uses floodfill to check whether a sokoban level is completed 10:27 hah neat 10:28 so i should stop editing sokoban.des then 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:84557 10:29 it seems to work okay, though it's a little tricky since the final level doesn't have an upstairs 10:30 i just finished testing my soko edits heh 10:31 it might be easier to just go with that, but if you think the levels look horribly ugly now this could be an alternative option 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) murdered Toby, her faithful winter wolf, on T:20982 10:31 changes are slight but it works 10:32 for this one - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_1l - I just replace the pit in that room with lava instead 10:33 the main reason I think my solution may not be the best is because in the final level, it looks for a path between the downstairs and one of the prizes 10:33 so if you levelport in, take one of the prizes, and only then complete the level, it wouldn't be counted as solved I think 10:33 since there would never be a path between a prize and the stairs, only a blocked path, or a clear path but no prize 10:34 ah 10:34 this is what I have for the new 1n - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2601/source 10:34 that white % is covering up a pit 10:35 can fill all 15 pits, one boulder spare 10:35 you don't need to anymore with those floor tiles 10:35 can skip most of them lol 10:35 just fill up left column and top row and done 10:36 hah no 10:36 don't you need the others to fill the % square 10:36 not so simple amateurhour 10:36 4 holes you don't need to fill right? 10:36 since it's actually a pit with an egg in it 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) murdered Freaky, her faithful cauchemar, on T:21129 10:36 the screenshot i posted, you need to fill them all to get to the stairs 10:36 what, why? 10:36 qt right, the white% is on a pit 10:37 in the right column there's 4 you don't need anymore, right? 10:37 3 10:37 i killed 3 pits 10:37 yeah but because of the addition of the floor tiles there 10:37 and put iron bars in one tile space 10:37 you cant skip any pits 10:38 am I blind or something, why can't you? 10:38 you cant move diag 10:38 (with a boulder) 10:38 i don't see how you could do it without getting past the boulder diagonally to the spot next to the fire 10:38 ah filling in second row second hole is the problem one 10:39 gotcha, thanks 10:39 the difficulty hasnt changed (this is a pretty easy soko level) but now you can actually get credit for having solved it 10:40 just mind the lava :) 10:42 beating myself up over not seeing the issue 10:43 heh 10:43 you had a K2 moment 10:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JzcWt 10:47 [EvilHack] k21971 c432ecb - Change minimum dexterity needed to throw Xiuhcoatl. 10:47 [EvilHack] k21971 e481a05 - Fix: some sokoban levels could easily be flagged as 'never solved'. 10:47 K2: if you want to try the alternative floodfill method: https://termbin.com/hr9f 10:47 oh oops 10:47 too late lol 10:47 lol 10:47 that's pretty cool though 10:48 K2 did you ever consider making not using paranoid_swim a conduct? 10:48 can tuck that away for another day 10:48 NetSysFire YES I did 10:48 it actually shouldn't have that problem with the final prize level since it only falls back on the floodfill method if pits/holes still exist 10:48 i should have done it for this version, adding a conduct will break saves 10:49 why is everyone pretending it's actually a big deal 10:49 * K2 shrugs 10:49 for some ppl it is i guess 10:49 i am just teasing 10:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:50 !who 10:50 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 10:51 fix is in 10:53 now, what to do about those two issues on the evilhack repo 10:54 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/71 <--- that one I see as well when compiling using -O2 10:54 vanilla throws it also 10:55 https://termbin.com/hc76 10:55 not sure what to do about that one, technically its a vanilla thing 10:56 and this one - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/73 - never seen this warning 10:56 possibly returning dummy in that function 10:57 i looked at that one a couple weeks ago, couldnt figure out how to resolve it 10:57 i think it should be a pretty easy fix 10:57 i love it when you say that 10:59 the only other warning i get using -O2 is this one, also shows in vanilla - https://termbin.com/h650 11:02 actually i'm not sure if it can return dummy 11:02 Xiuhcoatl NOOOOooooo 11:02 evil strikes again :-( 11:03 bleh 11:03 sorry mobileuser. i should have set it up that way from the beginning 11:04 now you have to choose between more useful gloves and being able to have fun with Xiuhcoatl 11:04 bleh 11:04 no bleh 11:04 yes bleh 11:04 rip arc 11:05 what happened? 11:06 i think droppables is cleverly constructed so that it won't return dummy, but it's a little confusing 11:09 no rip arc 11:09 sillyu 11:09 -u 11:11 what did you change? 11:11 minimum dex needed to throw it and have it return 11:11 the arc QA needs inhuman dex to throw now 11:11 oh, is it more than 18 now? 11:12 yup 11:12 you need dex gloves to throw it now 11:12 21 11:12 highly enchanted dex gloves plus full dex basically 11:12 ah 11:12 so it's even harder than mjollnir which only requires str gloves 11:13 you can throw mjo with low str plus +0 gloves, arc QA requires pretty much fully maxed dex plus +3 gloves or higher 11:13 or +1 depending on race 11:13 some races can get to dex 20 naturally 11:13 why did you change that? was it too OP or something? 11:14 it felt kinda like a freebie ability. mjollnir you need GoP 11:14 meant to do that change a long time ago, forgot 11:14 found some old notes 11:14 it's silly though because now it's way harder to get than mjo 11:14 not really 11:15 i wouldnt say 'way' harder 11:15 it's the quest artifact isn't it? 11:15 yes 11:15 oh i know 11:15 almost nobody wants to throw Mjollnir anyway 11:15 i do 11:15 heh 11:15 it's badass 11:15 mobileuser if i have mjollnir i'll throw it every chance i get 11:16 K2: the vampmsg warning is unreachable code basically, it' 11:16 s there in case additional messages are added to vampmsg 11:16 ah 11:16 but right now it can't be reached i think 11:17 for me it reduces the arc fun factor, but hey 11:17 hmm 11:17 i got an idea 11:17 that i think would make more sense 11:18 never abuse your alignment to be allowed to throw it :^) also no paranoid swim enabled 11:18 hah 11:18 lol! 11:18 you must be nude to throw it 11:18 that will be easier than getting fully enchanted gloves, so it's fair 11:19 if archeologist, just wearing GoD, you can throw it. if not archeologist, you need dex of 21 11:19 " if not archeologist, you need dex of 21" just that 11:19 hmm no 11:19 dragonbane! 11:20 it's not really a "freebie" if you have to go through the quest to get it 11:20 dragonbane change to gauntlets of fumbling? why mobileuser? why? but ok... 11:21 huh? 11:21 i'm kidding 11:21 mobileuser: why did you insist upon that :( 11:21 you know K2 holds your suggestions in great esteem 11:21 now you've doomed us all 11:21 lol 11:21 heh 11:26 hows this 11:26 diff --git a/src/dothrow.c b/src/dothrow.c 11:26 index 2aa49d8ad..5a6cce1c7 100644 11:26 --- a/src/dothrow.c 11:26 +++ b/src/dothrow.c 11:26 @@ -79,7 +79,9 @@ int shotlimit; 11:26 pline("It's too heavy."); 11:26 return 1; 11:26 } 11:26 - if (obj->oartifact == ART_XIUHCOATL && ACURR(A_DEX) < 21) { 11:26 + if (obj->oartifact == ART_XIUHCOATL 11:26 + && (ACURR(A_DEX) < 18 11:26 + || (!Role_if(PM_ARCHEOLOGIST) && ACURR(A_DEX) < 21))) { 11:26 pline("%s a deft hand.", Tobjnam(obj, "require")); 11:26 return 1; 11:26 } 11:31 looks good! 11:31 ok! 11:31 \o/ 11:32 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jzczd 11:32 [EvilHack] k21971 21b1f13 - Tweak to Xiuhcoatl dexterity requirements. 11:36 @e?Aphrodite 11:36 Aphrodite (n) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: unique | AC: -5 | Attacks: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: teleports, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 11:38 dcc chat Hecubus 11:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:20453 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:63092 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:63108 11:47 man those giant centipedes hit hard 11:49 totally 11:49 could be interesting to rev geno and use as pets 11:49 hmmmm 11:50 man, i still can't charm in this game. . My AC sucks. It's one of the crappiest RNGesus experiences i've had in evilhack 11:50 ouch 11:50 the few enchant armor scrolls i've found give me +1 and then I get cancelled 11:51 all my crap is +0 except dragonbane which is +2 and I've encahnted it to that like 3 times 11:52 does blessed enchant armor only give +1 enchantment now or something? 11:53 i'm gonna try to leave bones for myself and get a new dungeon with a 1:3 WoW ... 11:53 rebatela no, just bad RNG rolls 11:54 yeah 11:54 does luck factor into that? because I always make sure of that too 11:54 no 11:54 its unchanged from vanilla 11:55 wow. that's hard to believe. I mean, I believe you. But I don't remember getting +1 all the time in vanilla ever 11:56 bad rolls this entire game 11:56 * rebatela stops complaining 11:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1894 points, T:2131, killed by a piranha 11:59 smoky potion wish! 12:03 you wished to be killed by a piranha? 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible Cronos' ghost, the former Pawn, on T:1675 12:05 smoky is healing in my game (which I just realized after doing tons of alchemy earlier). I guess I should try for a wish that way myself 12:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Evoker, on T:2182 12:07 smoky is gain ability luckily 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4107 12:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of telepathy", on T:63858 12:13 of course no enchantment. wouldn't want my stuff to not match! 12:13 i usually have better AC as a giant... 12:14 and i'm wearing a guarding amulet and ring of protection. I really can't afford to wear either of those so it's even worse 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4294 12:18 at least the NPC's have enchanted stuff... just upgraded my speed boots 12:23 next game I'm wishing for PYEC and a magic harp right off the bat 12:26 at least gray dragons arent all that scary when your gear is all +0... 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril elven dagger on an altar, on T:5150 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5174 12:31 thank god there aren't any wraiths in this top vecna level anymore! 12:32 for some reason the shk attacked the watchman 12:33 maybe a local feud 12:33 was that sarcasm about the wraiths rebatela? 12:33 yes 12:33 heh 12:35 i'm already lvl 30.. the extra pw and maxhp was pretty sweet tho 12:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 12260 points, T:8130, choked on a yeti corpse 12:39 ugh that sucks 12:39 rip 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Law) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:57975 12:44 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:45 Wish there was a way to immortalize this -- on a level 4 mines, 3 bones on level, every one killed by a *different* piranha in a different location 12:45 Wow 12:45 hah 12:45 Arahael, AntiVirus, and an earlier myself 12:47 -!- epinephrine has joined #evilhack 12:48 And I'm so crap I've had to kill three ghosts weaponless with my blessed rusty gauntlets 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Brute, on T:6035 12:53 lol 12:53 epic 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) murdered her faithful mountain nymph, on T:22823 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:65242 13:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed ring of p'hul", on T:22914 13:11 YANI: Player ghosts power up as they stack. When a bones is generated on a bones level the new ghost/zombie/whatever is empowered with additional abilities. 13:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:24064 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24066 14:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Tou Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:6609 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24938 14:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:38 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 14:43 "5d6 bite behead" lovely 14:43 run away! 14:43 shambling horror? 14:44 yeah 14:54 it just wants to hug you with its teeth 14:55 make friends, mobileuser 14:55 @e?ozzy 14:55 Ozzy (d) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold sleep petrification | Confers: cold | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 6d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, nopoly 14:55 I wish there was some more stuff like the horrors earlier in the game -- like maybe a 1 random ability thing around DL10ish 14:55 was it you that mentioned 'shambling '? 14:55 Be fun if instead of the boring clay/glass/paper golem shit from polypiling you got some weird-ass random ability stuff 14:56 maybe instead of a shambling horror it's a stumbling spook 14:56 Like a few different difficulties of "amalgamations" that can spawn from polypiling 14:56 'spook' wouldnt be kosher. in the US that's old derogatory slang for african american 14:56 oh, it means a spy here, or a fright 14:56 "spooky stumbler" :-) 14:56 well it maeans that also 14:57 *means 14:57 a traversing terror 14:57 a pottering panic 14:57 but here it got another meaning :( 14:57 a dancing dread 14:57 'Bill' 14:57 oh shit... it's Bill! 14:57 alliterative aberration 14:57 perfection krm26 14:58 I want a new artifact: Abominator 14:58 instakills aberrations 14:59 nice 14:59 but if K2 adds that then they'll feel filthy and add disintegration horrors 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:87072 14:59 lol 15:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:00 can use 'he' :P 15:01 royal plural in your case, K2 15:01 pfft 15:02 When shambling horrors are within a few squares of each other they home in and then mutate when they are adjacent into a brand-new combination, plus an extra ability each time it happens. rn(20) cooldown 15:02 'shambling mound' is a thing in d&d 15:03 Just a desexied gelatinous cube tho, right? 15:04 yeah its not too terrible 15:04 Waaaait, are the spellschool staffs NOT randomized each game? 15:04 no they arent 15:04 Crap, I just assumed 15:04 That is lame 15:04 shambling mound - https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Shambling_mound 15:04 I want all my time figuring out which is which back! 15:12 K2: If you're actually in a QoL mood, make x work for swapping 2Hwep with dual or wep/shield 15:12 hah 15:16 New terrain: deep sewage. Displays as sewage, indistinguishable from sewage visually, but if you walk it in it acts like sewage AND water, and you sink and crawl out (and maybe get slowed) 15:16 Hahahaha 15:16 there's a spot open on our ideas development team... 15:16 i think you might fit right in 15:17 What happened to the last guy? Never came back from the R'lyeh junket? 15:17 :) 15:17 I like the idea of low level shamblers 15:18 I think splicehack has something like that, but can't remember what they're called 15:18 just one randomised attack or something 15:19 doesnt dnethack have 3 levels of shamblers? 15:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:20 I mostly make suggestions when I'm sitting here staring at a totally piece of shit evilhack character with no good path forward...if you gave me more random Dragonbane drops I'd be totally silent 15:21 lol 15:21 4 K2 15:21 one of them is also a long worm or something idk 15:22 new artifact - 'krm26nip' - uber powerful artifact whose sole function is to placitate players into thinking they have the most awesome artifact ever. that is its only uber powerful function 15:22 amateurhour damn 15:22 a long worm shambler? 15:23 "placitate" is a great Spoonerism for placate and agitate 15:23 EPI: dragonbane can no longer be wished for or found randomly, you must complete a difficult side branch with a bajillion dragons that don't drop scales at all to unlock the ability to attempt to get it 15:23 i just made up a word didnt i 15:23 I'm tots stealing that word 15:23 Tots? Totes? Me bad with modern slang 15:23 oh god i suck at 15:23 totes adorbs 15:24 <- language geek 15:25 It would be funny if there was a "false" Fire Brand that acted like Fire Brand for a thousand turns or so and then ran out of juice and went out 15:25 Something you might sometimes see a gnome royal using in the Mines maybe 15:26 Man, evilhack has totally spoiled me with the broader away of not totally shit garbage artifacts, which makes the ones that are still utter junk even more irritating 15:26 broader ARRAY 15:26 I'm losing it 15:26 Or I guess "bwoader away" would work too 15:32 has anyone come across dramborleg yet? 15:32 i think one person 15:33 randomly saw it in here i believe 15:34 hmm there's nothing in the irclog with a livelog event and that artifact 15:34 YANI: Blessed amnesia lets you choose a skill to forget one rank in (to free up skill slots) 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:87314 15:35 "You think about how Maud always told you to not overdo it with training" 15:36 "You think about how you'd actually give Dramborleg a try now that you've actually seen it but oops, no, skill scarcity prevents it" :-) 15:40 think again :) 15:40 i tweaked various roles skill sets 15:41 doing that plus introducing the dwarvish bearded axe, makes axe viable weapon 15:43 Crazy idea: Gain "levels" twice as fast. But each level you can choose to level up -- with all normal effects except NO skill slot -- or get a new skill slot 15:44 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/1557bfa8cd0411bb10852de5a4a7385a8a0040a4 15:45 Yeah, I like that change -- but my suggestion is a bit orthogonal to that 15:46 i know 15:46 you mentioned gain levels more fasterly 15:46 and i'm like 'done' 15:46 Asked and answered 15:46 'more fasterly' 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 hawaiian shirt of drain resistance named "Unwindulax, Man"", on T:25476 15:47 oops forgot the dragonskin 15:47 RIP 15:47 My suggestions is actually gamebreaking in one respect -- protection would need to be based off of "(skill slots + level)/2" if that change was made 15:47 At least you remembered to name it 15:48 Ugh, now I want an artifact whistle that summons pets across levels 15:48 Damn level teleporter 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of drain resistance named "Party Foul", on T:25491 15:52 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JzC30 15:52 [EvilHack] k21971 d502740 - Allow angel lord types to spawn with Demonbane again. 15:53 VaderFLAG: also the greased 15:53 dont ever wear ungreased hawaiian shirts 15:53 haha 15:54 * VaderFLAG makes discomfiting squishing sounds as he rides around the dungeon 15:56 YANI: executioners axe: slight chance of beheading 15:58 maybe a 5% chance? perhaps... a vorpal blade? 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:66815 16:08 but an axe! 16:08 and a chaotic artifact! 16:08 I'd actually been considering a chaotic artifact called Regicider 16:08 Not an axe though, sadly 16:11 Prefer just "Regicide", or "Usurper" 16:12 "regicider" is only *technically* a word 16:12 Regicide is really both the act AND what you call someone who commits it 16:13 Royalbane 16:14 Could actually have an attached game mechanic, alerts to royal versions of humanoids 16:14 AND of course shows you royal jelly and queen ants 16:16 I like 16:17 That was the general idea minus the queen ant thing 16:17 Anyway, lemme dust off the old pad 16:17 are demonlords royal humanoids? 16:17 could demons be considered vaguely humanoid? 16:18 It would be more of a "Bane" versus monsters with M2_LORD 16:19 I haven't spent time putting any ideas on paper but I recall I did want it to be a different kind of sword than most of the other artifacts 16:19 (keep in mind this is in comparison to vanilla) 16:19 "Apiarist's Veil" -- cloth hat that warns of insects and pacifies nearby bees 16:20 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/Umbrapad Said pad for the like, one person in here that cares 16:20 We already have sabers and longswords well-represented in vanilla, and a two-handed sword is tempting but, well 16:20 two-handed 16:21 Spears massively under-represented given how despite oldschool dnd dumb stats they are excellent weapons 16:21 It has to be an axe! 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:26349 16:22 how about both? a halberd! 16:22 heh 16:23 I totally ignore all polearms... 16:23 could be interesting to have an artifact polearm 16:23 How about the labrys? 16:24 Artifact laaaaaaance 16:24 I'd love to do artifact polearms honestly 16:24 yeah 16:24 VaderFLAG you are in centaur knight mode 16:24 Wouldn't be for this one specifically 16:24 But it's a neat idea 16:25 Yes I have the lancemadness 16:25 It definitely has to be a slashing weapon of some kind, though 16:26 Plenty of polearms can slash -- the bardiche, the bill hook, the glaive, the voulge 16:26 I wanted to workshop the "base" idea before tailoring it specifically for Evil (assuming it were ever added), but I wouldn't mind doing the latter 16:26 I know that but they're usually for bashing in NetHack 16:26 Granted I have very limited experience due to just... not bothering a mass majority of the time 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:89413 16:50 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:27659 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:22461 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22462 17:03 YANI: Apply Ogresmasher in a direction to slam a pit into the ground there (also attacking a monster if there is one) -- consume additional sustenance as with jumping 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:27977 17:06 K2: Infidel question, do they have a mysterious force like most roles? 17:07 there is no mysterious force in evilhack 17:07 except woodchucks 17:08 also K2 since english isnt my native language i thought, until recently when i looked it up in a dictionary, that woodchucks mean woodpeckers 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:23041 17:09 DIRGE 17:09 How is Dirge? Never used it 17:10 Oh right lol 17:14 Dirge is the best 17:22 i think i might have found a bug K2, when are corpses rotted in ice boxes? 17:22 are those safe to eat? 17:23 It is just a cosmetic "rotten" 17:23 You can eat them 17:23 (afaik) 17:24 i did and i didnt get sick 17:24 and they rotted *immediately* after taking it out, even small stuff like newt corpses 17:24 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 17:30 Oh man, I hate finishing Sokoban and having a 50% chance of a wasted item whichever thing you pick 17:32 yeah its a cosmetic bug thing 17:32 woodpeckers :) 17:34 NetSysFire: That's different from being too old to eat safely 17:34 And imo stupidly named 17:34 but why do they rot immediately after you remove them from the ice box? 17:34 They don't 17:34 You just got unlucky eating them 17:34 well they do... the rot timer starts back up 17:34 its a cosmetic/label bug 17:35 Oh you mean inventory display 17:35 Yeah, das a bug 17:35 sorta? 17:35 wooo i found team a! 17:35 K2: and yes i imagined the oracle with a pet bird 17:35 I only ever see it whenever I fall unconscious from eating 17:38 When WAS the mysterious force introduced anyway... 17:39 Surprisingly few links to that end around the wiki 17:40 great i am surrounded by acid blobs 17:41 Are you neutral? 17:42 no 17:42 If so you should be able to displace-- ah 17:42 unaligned 17:42 Non-corrosive weapon? 17:42 fists 17:42 Being confused, the mountain dwarf mispronounces the magic words... 17:42 then acid blobs everywhere 17:42 Yeah that's the confused reading's effeect 17:42 -e 17:42 Makes for a decent barrier 17:42 yeah but what scroll is that again? not genocide, right 17:42 its create monster 17:42 And a semi-reliable source of sacrifices 17:42 Yeah 17:43 Anyway they're probably great to practice drain life on 17:45 aosdict, bhaak, you happen to know anything about mysterious force history? 17:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:19118 17:58 krm26: I've always gone for the amulet. The armor hasn't been relevant and the BoH are plentiful. MM would be awesome, but too risky if I don't already have reflection or MR 18:00 every single nethack player is after the amulet 18:00 It depends on how lucky you get with kit shit to that point 18:03 RNG wish nets you at least one of the two 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21556 18:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7062 18:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8119 points, T:8824, killed by a gold golem 18:26 damn 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:28775 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:69405 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:69431 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (electric eels), on T:28952 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker named Nurse Call List", on T:28992 18:48 lol 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 89420 points, T:26284, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 19:06 dishes time 19:06 rip 19:06 do you always do the dishes when you die to a gelatinous cube? 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:70530 19:10 I bet gelatinous cubes are great at getting organic material off ceramic dishes. 19:12 !lastgame k2 19:12 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577469384.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1631902003.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1576941662.evil.html 19:14 Weird. Lost my pet, again. 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:95334 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:95349 19:32 go sluggoman 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:20850 19:47 woo 19:47 NetSysFire, yes i always wash the dishes after dying to a gelcube 19:47 who doesnt? 19:48 just be me and dont wash dishes until you got team a in your apartment 19:49 :) 19:50 i actually have problems with team a eating up the roots of my plants in their flower pots, so i gotta set ^ 19:51 ants eating the roots? what? 19:52 no its some mosquito larvae 19:52 apparently very common 19:53 hrm... mosquito larvae live in pools of water 19:54 what do you have going on with your plants? lol 19:54 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciaridae 19:54 ah gnats 19:55 i hate gnats, they like to dive-bomb my eyes 19:56 YASI: new monster: swarm of gnats which can blind you, just like ravens 20:05 #ragequit 20:05 EPI: mosquito bites cause itching which may paralyze you for a turn 20:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 12572 points, T:8817, killed by a gray unicorn 20:06 :/ 20:06 food time 20:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:12 K2: It was such a promising character. :( Had GoP ,too. But the unicorn cornered me. 20:12 No spare gems? 20:12 I was 1 HP away from being able to pray for recovery. 20:13 Umbire: Nope. I tend not to carry them until I'm ready to hunt for a unicorn. 20:13 I tend to pick them up in case I need to tame a hostile one 20:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:24 I suppose I should keep 2-3 around just in case. 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2890 21:22 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:25 Have bones CoMR -- so " is 50% yay reflection, 50% boo; have GoP, so [ is 50% yay speed hat, 50% boo... Run so far is such garbage that a bad result here will break my spirit 21:26 Gah, gotta go for the reflection 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:12556 21:26 Annnnd I lose 21:26 Par for the course 21:38 Even better, it is a fricking gold amulet, so a total waste of space 21:51 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13427 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:21678 22:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:37 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 23:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:71157 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23273 23:44 woah 23:44 game suddenly crashed while I was eating a fire giant. 23:44 but I got that newfangled (r)estore game option when I started back up, which is nice 23:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:71153 23:56 and hecubus thinks I polymorphed my first object 4 turns before the last time it reported it 23:56 restore took you back to beginning of that level? 23:57 (oredump was just 'bad_signal') 23:57 *c