00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:22126 00:59 !wheris bouquet 00:59 !whereis bouquet 00:59 arahael: [hdf-us] bouquet [evil]: (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) T:22113 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 01:00 Sadly, that one isn't the Arch-Lich bones. 01:02 You'dve been yelled at if that was 01:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1352 points, T:1762, killed by a piranha 01:06 Umbire: Good to hear of it! 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23631 01:30 v. 0.7.1-0 beta has the new stuff K2 posted about? 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:4093 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) stole 133 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kinojevis' general store, on T:4450 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2695 points, T:4466, killed by a Keystone Kop, while sleeping 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:31143 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 69 points, T:615, killed by a falling rock 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 524 points, T:2117, killed by a sling bullet, while fainted from lack of food 02:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:4442 03:07 Stupid pet. :( 03:07 I was trying to kill a gas spore. 03:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5483 points, T:5727, killed by a giant mimic 03:18 Well, that was a YASD. 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3229 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Excalibur", on T:3939 04:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:107689 04:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4892 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4585 points, T:6703, killed by an Uruk-hai 04:22 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 04:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3843 points, T:5696, killed by a fire ant 04:29 Double-bones now. 04:30 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:37 heh, I was so afraid of that pseudodragon but it's dead now 05:39 They're easily tamed anyway. 05:41 not if you are a knight arahael 05:41 can't tame any "D" 05:41 Woah. Fair enough! 05:42 pseudodragons are not even real dragons! 05:43 Right. 06:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:6146 06:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6222 06:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:6964 06:56 Bah. Gold. 07:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4419 07:08 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:29806 07:55 YANI: Rubbing a cursed magic lamp should give you a pacified demon prince 07:56 heh 07:57 that implies that the demon prince is trapped in the lamp though 07:57 Don't judge 07:58 Or if you read a cursed magic lamp it has the name of a demon prince on it and rubbing it summons them by name -- there you go, backstory 08:00 readable hawaiian magic lamps when? 08:01 YANI: Purple crayon. Like a magic marker but summons a single monster by name a la reverse genocide by drawing on floor. Re: Harold 08:02 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a monkey corpse on an altar of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4764 08:09 Grr bloody l, hate when I have an important gold ring 08:09 Grr bloody l, hate when I have an important gold ring 08:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10465 08:15 "The dwarven watch captain is blinded by the flash!" 08:15 Uh oh 08:15 but he did not get angry! :O 08:16 I wish there were a few more ways to appease inclined-friendlies you accidentally antagonize 08:16 played a centaur knight briefly, died to irl brainlessness 08:18 Centaur knights should get to double-jump 08:18 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:18 hah 08:20 Derp wearing a ring of hunger on one hand and slow digestion on the other 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 504 points, T:1691, killed by a rabid rat 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a bone chain mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4963 08:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:12860 08:32 I bet that creates some interesting medical situations 08:32 "yes doctor, his right side is all fat and flabby and his left side is emaciated" 08:33 Ugh, whiffing on shambling horrors is not a good place to be 08:34 lol aosdict 08:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 207 points, T:692, killed by an elven dagger 08:36 FU precastle alhoon level 08:39 That a centaur knight you're trying? 08:39 a neutral one! :| 08:41 Aww, no P 08:41 'hul 08:41 Welllllll 08:41 It's still in my inventory 08:41 So not a total loss 08:41 But yeah, not super great 08:43 OmiGOD I *hate* non-Ludios games 08:43 Soooo much 08:43 Yeah - it's such a fun level, even when you don't need the money 08:44 If Ludios doesn't generate let me do a ritual where I destroy 25k gold to create the portal 08:44 Be fun to have a few other rituals in the game 08:45 the problem is it's technically difficult to say whether or not ludios will generate in a future level 08:45 and two portals to it would be no bueno 08:45 well I guess the game already says "if knox portal already exists, then don't slap it in a new vault" 08:46 so, this is a YANI 08:46 There are some variants already that guarantee Ludios -- forget which? xnethack maybe? 08:46 xnethack and unnethack don't guarantee ludios, they just make it very, very difficult for it to not randomly generate. 08:47 but it can still happen. 08:47 It's basically if the game never generates a vault on any ludios-eligible level 08:48 I thought in evil it was basically 30% per eligible vault? I'll frequently have 8 or 9 vault games with no Ludios tho 08:48 krm26: And what's the probability of having an eligible vault? 08:49 xnethack and unnethack basically take away the 2/3 or whatever chance that an eligible vault does not have the portal, and make it 100% to have the portal 08:50 However, if there were a ritual you could do to manually make the portal, I could see restoring that chance so it won't naturally generate as often anymore 08:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16751 08:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 385 points, T:1667, killed by a gnome king 08:57 Do I need to bless rings? Does BUC make any difference? (Other than being able to take them off, obviously. 08:58 Nope 08:59 Sweet, so that hasn't changed. 08:59 Got a cursed ring of free action now! 09:00 The most important ring there is 09:00 Indeed! 09:00 Remember monsters dust them now 09:00 Make sure it is a good material or fooproofed 09:00 It's emerald. 09:00 Hey! Mine too! 09:00 Small (and evil) world 09:01 Gold free action is the worst 09:01 My " of reflection is gold. :( 09:01 At least you can find more of those in other materials 09:02 Yeah I think so. 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 2515 points, T:4847, killed by an ochre jelly 09:05 Hmm, if I'm flying... I can fly over lava, yes? 09:06 Oops, look at the time! G'night! :) 09:07 Indeed you can 09:07 You can ride a pegasus over lava and then have the pegasus killed and be stuck in lava, which is excellent 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a magical twisted staff entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:34029 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:34132 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:34136 09:11 Quite the streak! 09:13 YANI: When you polymorph a polymorph item (wand, potion, tin of changeling meat, whatever) instead of having no effect or behaving normally it should explode and make a few polymorph vortices 09:14 does evilhack have polymorph vortices? 09:14 Afaik I just made them up 09:14 Sounds pretty evil 09:14 Anything that hits them acts as if getting zapped by a wand, when engulfed it tries to poly one random item each round 09:14 I assume they're a vortex that polys you with an engulf? 09:14 it's the natural next step after disintegration vortices 09:14 wait, it polys your items not you? 09:15 Hehehehe 09:15 HAHAHAHA 09:15 Take THAT ascension kit 09:15 so they're less polyMORPH vortices and more polyPILE vortices 09:15 bag of holding -> lock pick 09:16 krm26: awesome - i'll be riding my pseudodragon over lava then. 09:18 krm26: i hate you 09:18 K2 will make evilhack even more evil now 09:18 there's really no way that a poly vortex could poly the creature inside it? 09:18 Evilhack gets pretty evil but needs a little more front-loaded evil for the people who don't push through to the end 09:19 Well, a poly vortex can do anything the implementer wants it to do I guess 09:19 oh no, you don't get to step away from the designing board like that mister. you own this idea 09:19 But with MR a poly vortex that polyed the player would do nothing 09:20 YANI: Greasy floor. Slippery, boots get grease applied, walking barefoot or with greased boots gives you a chance to slip. When you slip you drop stuff and random items get greased. A little good, a little bad! 09:21 Should wear off eventually, like with shallow water 09:21 +8 blessed greased fixed silver lance of fire -> bone dart 09:21 (I don't know if anyone else was complaining about it, but my proudest moment was when I saw K2 had nerfed shallow water) 09:21 no luckstone on mimic level ? just load stone 09:21 It is there 09:22 i feel like this has happened to me before. Can something have picked it up and hit a level telporter (there is one on the level) 09:22 it is not there... 09:22 Or "it WAS there" 09:22 there ya go 09:23 YANI: Dousing rod. Engrave it with an item name, glows when you're on a level with one of those items, brighter as you get closer 09:24 krm26hack when 09:24 I've been toying with the notion of creating a version of nethack with the HP-based combat model ripped out and replaced 09:25 But I've gotten pretty judgey in my old age and I'm not thrilled with the codebase 09:25 replaced with what? please don't say limb system 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 1677 points, T:2305, killed by a giant ant 09:27 krm26: he did a good job at it too! 09:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:17013 09:27 One of my roguelikes from the long long ago used a fatigue/wound system, where the more wounded you got, the more shitty you got at doing everything. No, still abstract, not an area-of-the-body system. But it works best in games that aren't great-chain-of-being ladders 09:28 krm26: in that its still easy to find water, but it is not rediculous anymore 09:28 krm26: (eh, i was scrolled back. responding to you talking aboht k2 nerfing shallow water) 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:33567 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:35774 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:31690 09:34 FIRST thing Baalzebub does, as I am inside Kathryn's house, is vulnerability-cold me. Clever jerk 09:34 krm26: reminds me of cataclysm dda 09:34 it has a limb system and the worse your pain gets, the shittier you get at doing stuff 09:34 and yes, its an open source roguelike 09:34 and if your torso or head limb breaks, its game over 09:35 * NetSysFire is a big fan of cdda 09:36 krm26: what do you mean by great-chain-of-being 09:37 Leveling up, everything just getting tougher and tougher, so there is a moving window of challenge discarding earlier data behind you as you progress 09:38 hey, cdda has that, too! the longer you take the tougher the zombies will get. but it doesnt discard earlier data 09:38 What I mean is, you fight level 1 crap at level 1 for a medium challenge, but when you are level 5 all the level 1 stuff is a joke, so it isn't really part of your thought process any more 09:38 tl;dr of cdda: open world roguelike turnbased (configurable, can also be "real time") zombie apocalypse alien invasion survival horror game 09:39 So designers go to a lot of work to design 500 monsters, for example, but because of leveling only like 10 of them at any given time are a real challenge 09:39 how does a game keep low level enemies relevant throughout? 09:39 There are alternate methodologies to make design work pay off over a longer time 09:39 or do you mean the game just doesn't really have a leveling system 09:40 VaderFLAG Baalzebub at Kathryn's?? 09:40 what happened there? 09:40 Kind of a deep topic for throwaway texts, but imagine a system where everything was "level 1" but there were like 50 resists and used in the right combination at the right time it made any given opponent easy, with the task then being to juggle being properly kitted out at the proper time 09:40 Moloch didn't like my converting the altar, sent an Erinys 09:41 Erinys only had 40hp, but it was enough to live one round and summon Bbop 09:41 oh my :-) 09:42 krm26: you should really try cdda, you might like it 09:43 I'll keep that in the back of my head but I'm on a pretty strict gaming diet that only leaves time for evilhack :-) 09:43 lol 09:43 I pretty much only game during coding and need to play a game that I can have scattered attention for 09:44 (during toolchain builds, etc) 09:44 That is why it is boring to watch my games, I am slooowwwwwwwwwwww 09:44 https://xkcd.com/303/ 09:45 Yeah, got a lot more gaming in 20 years ago, that's for sure 09:46 Waiting for the condensor to compile to condense the code for the compiler to execute 09:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:20600 09:50 about to die anyway 09:51 rip 09:52 4d6 sting behead coming my way 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 105818 points, T:20880, killed by a shambling horror 09:52 oh no 09:52 :-( 09:52 @e?shambling horror 09:52 shambling horror (U) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: none | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, nopoly 09:53 What was your horror's combo? 09:53 I've got butt-pit-fire-drain this time 09:53 :( 09:53 oh it was all sorts of stuff. I should have killed the shopkeeper and dug out through the store 09:53 whatever new game 09:54 !lastgame rebatela 09:54 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1631907311.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1627663761.evil.html 09:56 wait why is one of your soko levels marked as unsolved? 09:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:3474 09:57 i think one of the new one's theres a whole you don't have to fill 09:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6745 09:57 hole* 09:58 Ugh, been through the whole upper dungeon, polypiled, and still -- no MR 09:59 MRless conduct preserved \o/ 09:59 Only reason I'm still kicking is a ring of poly control 10:01 polying into something undead could work 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:34440 10:13 Ugh 10:13 #e 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) had a silver long sword entrusted to him by Brigit, on T:32970 10:15 Damn, I'd trade Angelslayer for that 10:15 Deal! 10:16 Meet me in sokoban 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:33157 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:35956 10:34 God DAMN IT 10:34 Second game in a row 10:37 What was the culprit this time 10:37 Just quick play and somehow bobbled things to put in "all" 10:37 That included an emergency sack with a wand of cancellation in it 10:38 Luckily this character is SO GARBAGEY that it doesn't really represent a big loss 10:39 Really losing my only wand of canncellation is the big screw 10:43 Ugh, guess I'll go see if my quest nemesis will instakill me 10:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3259 points, T:3795, killed by a mountain dwarf, while disrobing 10:45 bah so dumb. i had a lamp too 10:45 hopefully leaves easy bones for someone 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:37575 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37576 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:43442 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) had a steel short sword entrusted to him by Brigit, on T:33705 11:00 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", on T:33722 11:09 What's the new formula for wishing for artifacts? 11:09 Second artifact wish was a dud, wondering how quickly the odds drop, whether I should try again 11:14 what are gargoyles doing on level 9? 11:15 vaderflag: wondering this myself. All i read was that it goes by wished for artifacts now 11:16 VaderFLAG - same formula, but its based off of how many artifacts you've wished for vs how many already exist 11:16 It's not the vanilla formula, or else 2nd one wouldn't have failed 11:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 15312 points, T:10962, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:17 K2: when you merge 3.7, will you make it so that extrinsic disint resistance protects your items from disintegration in cases that don't exist in vanilla, such as hitting a black dragon with your weapon? 11:17 Wished for P'Oops yesterday, so this would be 100% if it was 2/n+1 11:17 aosdict no 11:18 then will you drop vanilla's protection where extrinsic disint resistance protects your armor/shield if you get hit with a disintegration blast? 11:18 yup 11:18 no 11:19 if you have 50% or greater disint res your armor is already protected 11:19 that'll stay same 11:19 Oh I see it went from nartifact_exist() + 1 to just u.uconduct.wisharti so now you only get one guaranteed artifact wish 11:20 this was a nice convict 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Con Hum Mal Cha), 5520 points, T:5600, killed by a bolt of fire 11:21 and the second wish is 2/3 chances? 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", on T:33727 11:21 yeah does it decay at the rate of 2/2, 2/3, 2/4, 2/5, ... or 1/1, 1/2, 1/3, ... 11:22 you should know aosdict, its the same in xnethack 11:22 Yeah decay is the same, just you don't get the bonus freebie at the start 11:22 did you get it the second time? 11:22 then it's 1/2, 1/3, ... 11:23 You know what here I am answering when I am not sure, don't listen to me 11:23 I did get it the second time 11:23 nice 11:23 VaderFLAG: "P'Oops" has me giggling because I am apparently five years old 11:24 It's gonna be P'Crap if I accidentally drop it 11:24 joes :/ 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +4200000000000000 silver lance of lightning", on T:33730 11:25 losing the 'bonus freebie' for not having to worry about how many artifacts exist is a fair trade 11:25 Yeah it's totally reasonble 11:25 lol +42^12 11:25 One wished for artifact guaranteed at any point is... not evil 11:25 I don't have any scrolls of identification to check and see whether I got the enchantment :P 11:26 your weapon does so much damage, it kills everything dungeon wide when you hit something with it 11:26 including yourself 11:26 and anyone else playing on the server at that time 11:26 evilhack dark souls-style invasions when 11:27 heh 11:28 216 aum 11:30 * VaderFLAG crams an eight-foot lance into the magic bag with a flourish 11:30 :) 11:31 The real mystery is how you can do that with a plain ordinary sack. 11:32 big sack 11:42 yeah the wishing thing definitely changes my strategy.. A lot of times I would avoid doing quest so to not create that artifact, but i couldn't wish for it because i couldn't fight the owner etc. Overall I think it's a fair change for sure 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:11310 12:28 Lolth summoned in valley of the dead, sigh 12:41 you have shiny silver lances that make sparks though 12:42 and a +4200000000000000 bonus, can't lose with that 12:42 heh 12:42 fighting lolth without free action might be unwise 12:42 yeah 12:43 If I didn't have the eye to teleport out I would have been toast. Thanks accidental neutral conversion! 12:45 without the conversion you would have had free action from p'hul 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Brigit, on T:34878 12:50 I... just wanted some luck 12:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:53 \o/ 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Brigit, on T:35360 13:08 is trollsbane better in evil? 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a wooden crested helmet entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7038 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 257 points, T:2207, fell into a pit of iron spikes 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:36469 13:26 sigh, I think the dwarven watch captain just destroyed the temple door with his bearded axe 13:27 NetSysFire I think if it's better it is just a small +damage roll 13:27 What were you doing behind that closed door that would require such an investigation? 13:28 Dorf watchmen just turbofuck doors for no reaosn 13:28 reason* 13:28 Don't even need bearded axes for it 13:29 * NetSysFire also plays with the destroy all doors conduct 13:30 VaderFLAG coaligned temple 13:30 don't want the sacs to run away :-) 13:30 You were CANOODLING and the guard heard you 13:31 lol the guard was actually inside, but must have become bored :-) 13:31 Sick of the sight of all your shenanigans 13:32 I think I'm going to start recording my shambling horror attacks on my luckstone for the dumplog 14:12 this elf is too dumb to pick up the arrows again after shooting zombies 14:13 Are they hostile to you? 14:14 They only do that when either hostile or tame, if I recall, which is gonna interact funny with grudge stuff 14:14 no, I'm chaotic - glad about the ammo 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5431 points, T:781, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:35 how i got so many points in such a short time? cursed scroll of geno and green slimes 14:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4480 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42005 14:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6076 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:43013 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:77168 15:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7081 15:03 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:77211 15:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 15:22 So I end up in this situation ALL the time -- got a kinda shitty char muddling along and hit a wall (in this specific case, at castle with just reflection and free action, no MR, no speed, no nice armor, very few scrolls/potions/wands). What do you guys do? Altar-camp for 10,000 turns, or just go for it and probably die trying? 15:22 I usually try to altar camp and then get bored 15:23 I go looking for the yellow @ 15:24 I would probably hit the castle with reflection no MR, depending on what's spawned there of course 15:24 But I also altar camp a lot 15:24 In a Ludios game I'd at least have some random dragon armor 15:26 polying into an undead mon might be enough for the castle, can't be touch of death'd 15:26 And I don't even have reflection when I have to cross water 15:27 can have reflection and death resistance by polying into vampire lord maybe, they get flying I think? 15:27 I've thought about xorning to the wand, the one time I tried it, it worked perfectly 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:37930 15:28 Oooh, whining is the key -- on way back down from my altar an NPC has spawned on Medusa's level. Let's check it out 15:30 Bah, an apron and crap, what a let down 15:30 The overarching theme I am getting with evilhack is "whining will be rewarded" 15:31 You'd think that 15:31 Also lol whining about acid res 15:33 That's my job! 15:33 Orange dragon scales, better than a sharp stick in the eye I guess 15:34 I swear, this game has been weird -- I've got about 25% of the potions, scrolls, and wands I normally accumulate by this point 15:34 SO far out of statistical whack it is crazy 15:35 enjoy the edge of the bell curve 15:35 It's no coincidence, I asked K2 to sabotage your run 15:35 And every piece of magic armor has been one of three cloaks (pro/inv/disp), so I've got like 15 of them 15:36 If I didn't get automatic Snickersnee as a samurai I would have died of despair 10k turns ago 15:36 Hm. Sooo...arch-lich? 15:38 OR, can I not do lich poly before Vecna? 15:38 I don't think poly is prevented 15:38 Vecna would probably be keen on the idea of more liches 15:38 Vecna only prevents genocide 15:40 What happens when a giant eel tries to drown a vampire? 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:38268 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38272 15:49 I think nothing happens -- but you surely won't die. Pretty sure drowning attacks don't actually put anything or anybody in the water unless it's fatal 15:50 try it and see! 15:50 vampires don't breathe anyway. 15:50 YASI: implement the "vampires can be killed by immersing in water" folklore 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:112226 15:51 "human sergeant, riding it" 15:51 Uhhhh 15:52 Yeah, strangely a successful drowning kill doesn't actually wet your inventory? 15:53 At least that's a note I recall taking 15:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:01 OMG a gnoll just dropped dragonbane 16:01 \o/ 16:01 I am absorbing all of krm26 missed RNG luck 16:02 the other side of the curve 16:02 Awesome! 16:02 Glad to be of service 16:02 :b 16:02 rumors are circulating that mobileuser has a pet evil eye 16:04 Crazy, a normal everyday lich removed fooproofing and took my cloak all the way to thoroughly burnt all at a go 16:05 good thing you have so many cloaks 16:06 No kidding! I guess I AM lucky :-) 16:07 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23 oh fuck I mindlessly attacked gray fungus while I had recently prayed 16:23 F 16:23 use the ever-plentiful eucalyptus leaves! 16:23 which I don't have :-) 16:24 no unihorn yet 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 unicorn horn", on T:8106 16:26 there goes the magic lamp... 16:28 but we live on \o/ 16:28 \o/!! 16:28 !whereis mobileuser 16:28 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Kni Cen Mal Cha) T:8118 Sokoban level: 5 16:30 Why +2 tho 16:30 Can knights even skill unihorns 16:35 no real reason 16:35 the main thing was not to die :-) 16:36