00:00 sweet 00:00 oh crap 00:00 actually it needs a small change, sorry 00:01 i see it 00:01 mumakil? 00:01 oh 00:01 or are you noticing something else 00:01 lol i didn't know a mumak was an elephant 00:01 heh it is :P 00:02 i noticed a bug that i didn't fix 00:02 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5GxPhstEH96MaD0BqgEpOa5XEavRBdbed84Vpx1dmOxrFUSbhndduEg4QG5IcyW7Vk8CuyF-6exNM-gmjqRU-ztNK685S3zJASnT-0xu_N6pQIhj 00:02 ^ mumak 00:02 it wakes up nearby monsters even if the mon didn't make a sound (e.g. MS_BUZZ monster) 00:02 aaah 00:02 the "check and see who was close enough..." thing should be moved inside the if (verb) block 00:03 * K2 nods 00:03 i got it 00:03 thanks 00:03 no, thank you 00:04 i always notice something like this right after you commit/merge the patch lol 00:06 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JuzOq 00:06 [EvilHack] k21971 3d0fa6e - Fix: a couple corrections to the last commit (horses and trumpets). 00:06 yeah same lol 00:07 PR's would probably be better, greater chance of catching errors 00:13 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 00:46 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1234 00:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:48 -!- Guest1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:39002 02:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:38 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 02:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JuzXT 02:49 [EvilHack] k21971 5821f87 - Autorecover crashed games. 02:50 hehehehe 02:50 * amateurhour rubs hands with glee 02:51 "Attacking with a cursed weapon can sometimes do odd things" commit, it doesn't like look Infidels are excluded from this? 02:54 Oh I should read the backlog :-) 02:55 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9993 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:43346 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:10400 03:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 376 points, T:1539, killed by a small mimic 04:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:10899 04:15 Huh. 04:15 Should be good against renegades I take it. 04:15 In fact, I almost want to give it to my lava demon... 04:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:10970 04:23 Jesus christ, +5 04:27 I'll give this to the demon also 04:43 Nice. 04:44 angelslayer is good 04:49 Lava demon took out that stupid disenchanter from the armory 04:49 didn't lose any enchantments I just fucking hate them lol 05:08 Throne room coming up, should be a nice place for my newest stash 05:19 woo full ID 05:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2899 points, T:2328, killed by a killer bee 05:21 and there goes my speed, chickatrice almost got me 05:24 ooh Angelslayer does fire damage 05:26 Portal sighting 05:28 !whereis Umbire 05:28 arahael: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil]: (Kni Dwa Fem Law) T:13072 The Dungeons of Doom level: 12 05:29 Umbire: How do you "split" the candles!? 05:30 #adjust ? 05:30 lol 05:30 Then I enter the number I want to split, then the stack 05:30 Ah, so you literally just give part of the stack a different letter. 05:30 Mhm 05:30 Unrelated, I appear to have searching as a property 05:31 I'm flipping between your game and mine. :) 05:32 Found it 05:33 K2: technically, dragons are no longer randomized but instead have been incorporated into the id game. 05:36 RIP to that bozo 05:36 good part is I can restock on fruit + I have a sword to Excal 05:36 It didn't seem to give you any challenge. 05:37 You're still burdened, though. 05:37 I mean they were peaceful + I left them to my demon 05:37 yes I'm aware 05:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1065 points, T:1957, killed by a killer bee 05:43 love that dwarves just consistently disrespect doors 05:45 woof, forces took some Ls 05:48 calling it for now but I like how this is shaping up + I have fucking free action this time 05:49 Nice. :) 05:49 And you play *far* slower than I do. I really need to slow down my playing style. 05:52 I play distracted rather than slow 05:52 it's a bit more deliberate this time though and it's worked in my favor 05:52 Probably gonna dive for the Mines next 05:53 That sounds pretty good. I find that unless I'm a monk, mines are better saved for later - but I almost always do mines first anyway. It's such a good opportunity for better armour. 05:53 Knights already start with good armor, the problem is sidegrading to lighter shit as you go 05:53 and finding boots + a cloak 05:54 took a bit but +1 steel ring mail held me down a good while until I ran into some dorf chain mail lying around 05:54 the splint mail was honestly miles better but I like my MC3 05:54 + it was still on the heavy side 05:55 The main thing I need is a BoH right now, though pumping my Luck also helps 05:57 Ideally also figure out enchant armor at some point 06:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (illithids), on T:2011 06:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1050 points, T:2011, killed by a scroll of genocide 06:03 !lastgame arahael 06:03 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1631266908.evil.html 06:03 Umbire: I was term-ill, with an angry god. 06:04 Elaborate suicide then 06:04 I was wondering if confusion 06:04 The best way. :) 06:04 Oh, how woudl confusion have done that? 06:04 Reading genocide while confused always self-targets 06:04 Ooh, good to know! 06:04 Though on basis of role I think 06:07 Fiddling with THEM in a meanwhile 06:09 Eh? 06:10 !whereis Umbire 06:10 Umbire: Umbire is not playing. 06:11 Ah, not compatible yet 06:11 but SlashTHEM 06:12 just know that everything on the wiki to do with slashthem is probably a complete lie and you'll be fine :) 06:13 already well aware lmfao 06:13 was from before the big de-Amy-fying 06:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 268 points, T:1091, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse, while helpless 06:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 172 points, T:645, killed by a bolt of cold 06:28 lol I'm getting powerful strikes at Basic 06:52 monk? 06:53 Tourist 07:00 nice 07:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:09 [02:50] hehehehe 08:09 [02:50] * amateurhour rubs hands with glee 08:09 ^ lol wut 08:14 * NetSysFire senses evil intentions 08:16 "all" an evil person has to do now is to find a reliable way to crash the game? 08:17 we are all evil in here 08:17 lol 08:18 also can you increase the difficulty level of champions a tiny bit? just so they appear 1-2 floors later since they appear at the same time as agents and are twice as dangerous 08:18 * NetSysFire looks at K2 with puppy eyes 08:22 i will ponder this 08:22 * K2 starts to ponder 08:22 * K2 ponders while floating in a pond 08:23 first i need to fix a recent bug I introduced to 0.7.1 yesterday 08:24 my implementation of 'Attacking with a cursed weapon can sometimes do odd things' may need a redo 08:24 what mobileuser said 08:25 I am against changing difficulty level of champions 08:25 It's part of the infidel challenge 08:25 hmm i get it 08:26 Demo finds a way to reliably crash the game. Demo enters level, is about to sie. crashes game on purpose. restores crash back to beginning of that level 08:27 yeah, but you are going to implement automatic notifications? 08:27 *die 08:27 one sec 08:27 * Pinkbeast sticks a longsword in the pond on the offchance # in the right channel 08:30 nethack doesnt do auto notification of anything 08:30 it'd be so cool if it did 08:30 like use a servers built in mail function to send an admin an email for certain events 08:30 so instead, i'll need to do it on server side 08:30 but, not all crashes generate a coredump 08:31 so with games that have had autorecover forever, like dnethack 08:31 i wonder how often that's abused 08:35 all the time K2 08:35 it's not about almost dying anyway 08:35 it's about infinite wishes 08:35 uuuuuuugh 08:36 just don't add crashes :) 08:36 back before the big dnh bug purge: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1590974543.dnh.txt 08:37 E - a silver wand named this run was not legit. 08:37 :D 08:37 blah 08:37 welp, it's easy enugh to revert the commit 08:37 *enough 08:37 I think it's a good idea to have, not like evilhack has that many crashes 08:38 I would have thought nobody would abuse such a thing 08:38 or I could add a meesage to the recovery bit - 'Demo if I catch you abusing autorecover I will whup your butt' 08:38 haha 08:39 explode your butt 08:39 rearendban 08:39 there was a sweep through with fuzzer and asan that caught loads of things 08:39 and I think fixed all the crash on demand stuff in dnh 08:39 most at least hopefully 08:40 hey add crash restoring to grunthack :^) 08:40 i could 08:40 and sporkhack 08:42 it's really easy to crash grunthack on demand 08:42 yeah 08:43 sporkhack too most likely 08:44 I think it's probably worth figuring out how you're not consistently getting coredumps etc 08:44 its apport in ubuntu 08:44 i was looking at this last night 08:44 does it only ever save 1 at most or something? 08:45 if the program in question is not a package of the OS, and a coredump already exists for that program, it tends to not make a new one 08:45 :| 08:45 Hmm, I'm surprised that a Helm of Spee does not block my psionic abilities. 08:45 it does 08:45 try to actually attack something 08:45 (with psionic attack) 08:46 Weird. I definitely killed a spider with the spell whilst wearing it. I was confused, though, I think. 08:46 can you use systemd's thing instead of apport maybe? 08:47 i dont know 08:47 But it indeed does block it now that I'm not confused and trying to attack leps. 08:47 probably called something like systemd-coredump 08:51 i will look into it more, i'd like 1) reliable coredump for game crashes and 2) some type of email notification 08:51 did nethack sendmail function ever work for actual email? or just sending a player a message ingame? 08:52 Confused psionic doesn't work. I wonder if I somehow cast the wrong spell earlier. It's possible. 08:52 right, you cant use psionic blast whilst confused 08:55 K2: Regarding the core dumps thing, it's indeed part of systemd, though my system doesn't have the particular command for some reason. 08:55 https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-coredump.html 08:55 There seems to be non-trivial configuration, though. 08:55 (Simple, but not trivial) 08:56 with ubuntu, 'apport' handles coredump processing 08:56 how (or if at all) that ties in with systemd-coredump, i dont know 08:56 yeah you'd stop apport and start systemd-coredump 08:57 i really like apport though, its so convenient 08:57 i didnt have to do anything, it just works 08:57 except for all the ways in which it's currently not working of course :^) 08:57 The impression I have for apport is that it's more designed for when a user-running application crashes. 08:58 tried googling for how one can configure apport for different things, and every answer is lolz idk i use systemd-coredump instead cuz that can do it 08:58 Eg, "The application gedit has closed unexpectedly" 09:02 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:05 This looks troubling: 09:05 > Data collection from apport takes a nontrivial amount of CPU and I/O resources, which slow down the computer and don't allow you to restart the crashed program for several seconds. 09:05 that's never been an issue 09:06 fast server is fast 09:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4520 points, T:3548, poisoned by an elf zombie 09:07 Nice. 09:08 Anyway, it looks like systemd-coredump and apport might actually use the same mechanism for collecting the original raw data: /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a leather jacket entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:34820 09:09 wow, thanks anhur, my james dean cosplay is almost complete 09:09 i couldnt find anywhere if you could configure apport to send email notifications 09:09 hah qt 09:15 K2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport gives a hint that the simplest thing would be to have a custom notifier for /var/crash, (using inotify), to then manage the report - the feeling I get is that it's very much designed for and is specific to Ubuntu's bug reporting for their database. 09:15 apport more like badreport-ing 09:15 gottem 09:16 The more I look at it, the more ubuntu-specific it seems. :( 09:17 ubuntu specific is fine 09:17 all the hdf servers use ubuntu 09:17 No, I mean, specific to their architecture and services. 09:17 reposting from before 09:17 You don't want your hdf servers to send their crashes to *Ubuntu*. 09:17 tried googling for how one can configure apport for different things, and every answer is lolz idk i use systemd-coredump instead cuz that can do it 09:17 :) 09:17 I mean, It seems *canonical* specific. 09:18 They look like they have various package-specific apport-hooks, as well, but I have the impression that even those are so that they can be re-routed or annoted to a specific set of information for Canonical's bug database. 09:20 hah 09:20 yeah apport phones home to ubuntu for package specific/kernel stuff 09:20 so non-package applications, like 09:21 mobileuser: yeah but i am talking about 1-2 floors later, not 15 09:22 in the .crash file that's generated, there is no package info, I always have to add 'Package: 0' to the file before I can run apport-retrace on it 09:22 can I bribe you with zorkmids to consider switching to systemd-coredump 09:22 Looks like this is the best docs you'll get: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo 09:22 and because its a non-package crash report, apport will sometimes not write out a new .crash file for the same executable if one already exists 09:23 amateurhour perhaps, if there's a reliable way to use apport-retrace or its equiv on it 09:24 switching to systemd-coredump does me no good if i cant understand the output 09:24 K2: You can just load the core dump at the very minimum. 09:24 or am able to supply output to others 09:24 NetSysFire I'll let K2 ponder that in his pond :-) 09:24 *moat 09:24 hah 09:24 is this another absurd aquatic ceremony? 09:26 sounds like one 09:28 yeah there are tools included, can either load the coredump direct in gdb and do whatever you like (such as get backtrace) 09:29 And before you ask, yes, you can script that quite easily, too. 09:29 cool 09:32 gonna test systemd-coredump on my wizmode box 09:32 Good stuff. :) 09:33 I've not used it, but the documentation looks good, and the setup feels mature. 09:34 Amazon threatened to close my account today. :D 09:34 (My credit card declined the charge - as I had a new one. Had to urgently fix that up, so that they could charge my card for all of $1.50 USD) 09:35 ~# sysctl kernel.core_pattern 09:35 kernel.core_pattern = |/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t 9223372036854775808 %h 09:35 that's verified 09:36 so now lets crash something 09:36 heh neat... 09:36 ~# coredumpctl 09:36 No coredumps found. 09:37 See https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-coredump.html for configuration. 09:38 thx 09:38 ~# coredumpctl 09:38 TIME PID UID GID SIG COREFILE EXE 09:38 Fri 2021-09-10 13:38:22 UTC 51359 0 0 6 present /usr/games/lib/evilhackdir/evilhack 09:40 oh this is beautiful 09:40 if you do `coredump debug 51359` does it open that coredump in gdb? 09:41 yes it DOES 09:42 https://termbin.com/5uss 09:42 look at that 09:42 e z p z 09:43 nerd boner, engage 09:43 K2: Now, try print'ing various globals. :D 09:43 and all it took was a few zorkmids to persuade you to try it 09:43 :) 09:43 (gdb) print moves 09:43 $1 = 1 09:43 (gdb) 09:43 yeah that works 09:44 I think you can even run functions as well. 09:44 once we're in gdb land i'm alright 09:45 K2: And you can script it using -command or -x to load a script file containing the gdb commands you want to execute, including quit. :) 09:45 nice 09:45 canonical bad, apport bad 09:45 i typically just do 'bt' 09:45 embrace the systemd future 09:45 This is barely even systemd, though. 09:46 fyi, this crash I've already fixed. just changed an int so i could reliably crash it for this hah 09:47 K2: Note, the default configuration in the docs I sent you says that the core dump will be removed in just a few days. You'll want to change that. 09:48 yup 09:48 i'm reading over it 09:49 So much awesome stuff that I can't use as an iOS dev. ;( ;( ;( 09:50 lol rip 09:52 ios gives you baked in microtransaction processing! 09:52 monetization, away! 09:53 * arahael shudders. 09:53 aosdict: I really hate the trends in mobile gaming. 09:53 operating system shock? 09:53 arahael: did you follow any of the gnollhack stuff this week 09:53 30 days sounds good 09:53 arahael: we'll tell you about it for $4.99 09:54 for keeping coredumps 09:54 and you keep it for a year for $4.99? 09:54 amateurhour: I didn't, no, it's been a terrible weak. 09:54 *week. 09:55 systemd-coredump with paywall 09:55 But one good thing happened! My sister's family have recovered from covid. (They're still dealing with minor side effects though) 09:55 k2 fyi i just noticed a couple small bugs in initiating monster inventory 09:55 while investigating why the tourist i killed didn't have a hawaiian shirt 09:56 * K2 gasps 09:56 it... it didnt have a hawaiian shirt?? 09:56 yeah turns out it's because hobbits are too small to wear a hawaiian shirt 09:56 ... huh? 09:56 polymorph into a hobbit and try to wear a hawaiian shirt 09:56 qt: There's another bug in Evilhack, actually, where hobbits willingly wear shoes. 09:56 or any shirt 09:56 that cant be right 09:56 it's vanilla behavior 09:56 player hobbit can 09:57 oh 09:57 yeah but player hobbit is the one that breaks the rules 09:57 good... good. we can blame vanilla 09:57 this bug tastes vanilla-flavored! 09:57 hah 09:57 I don't mind vanilla-flavouring if they use a good quality vodka. 09:59 K2: do you want to exclude mplayer hobbits from the size rules? 09:59 hmm 09:59 i'm not sure that we should 10:00 what do you think? 10:00 i think it's fine as it is for now 10:00 though there is a for-sure bug that's preventing them from wearing cloaks, too 10:01 i am fixing that 10:01 ok 10:02 I think hobbits can wear anything they like, but should perhaps have a penalty for wearing shoes. 10:06 i can hear the outrage now 10:08 i'm not seeing anything in systed-coredump config about sending email 10:08 *systemd-coredump 10:09 arahael: i'm glad to hear that about your sister's family btw 10:09 i meant to say something when you wrote it but i had already typed out the thing about the bug and then i forgot 10:09 so i wanted to mention it now 10:09 hrm I missed that 10:09 woah I just had a brainfart when trying to reply to K2 and saw qt's nick 10:09 and kept writing KT 10:09 KT extinction 10:09 q2 10:10 qt: Thanks. :) 10:10 Yeah, glad to hear 10:10 Yeah, main side effects seem to be loss of smell, and tiredness. 10:10 Both of which seem to be common. 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:23190 10:17 i'm pretty tired but i don't think i have covid because people have told me i smell 10:17 so systemd-coredump doesnt send email notifications 10:17 is what it looks like 10:17 KT: yeah you're meant to read the journal and notify from that 10:17 gdammit 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5382 points, T:3904, killed by a bone orcish arrow 10:19 https://termbin.com/5s9jc <- would you prefer i submit this as a PR K2? 10:19 please 10:19 and thank you 10:25 [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #68: Fix some small monster inventory init bugs - https://git.io/Ju2CA 10:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:26 this is a PRIORITY ONE bug 10:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:26 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 10:26 lowers the amount of readable hawaiian shirts in the game 10:26 the players won't be happy... 10:27 amateurhour: it turns out the missing hawaiian shirt was not really a bug after all :-O 10:27 K2: Alternatively, you could have a systemd job that is triggered on a timer, to poll the current core dumps. 10:27 K2: But setting up something that checks the journal feels a bit better in terms of monitoring the servers. 10:28 arahael yeah i'm gonna setup a cronjob to call coredumpctl every so often and send an email 10:28 coredumpctl checks the journal and outputs what it finds 10:28 systemd-coredump is now installed on all three hdf servers 10:29 bye apport 10:29 which is good becasue hdf-eu OS has some issues with python and apport used python 10:29 K2: When you get a chance, learn more about journalctl, but that cronjob will work in the interim. 10:29 i havent seen a coredump on hdf-eu in awhile 10:30 arahael ok. I have a cronjob that cleans up the journal if it gets too big 10:30 lol the random battle-axe in the ice queen branch is Cleaver 10:32 hahah 10:35 Hmm, speaking of such, I should set up some firewall blocker when people try to log in too many times with the wrong password, I've got a script kiddie hitting my home machine trying to log in as 'telecomadmin' 10:36 A good thing I've disabled passwords entirely, at least. 10:39 with ssh? are you using default port? 10:39 amateurhour: I am. 10:39 that was me, sorry, i'm just trying to learn your nethack secrets 10:40 you can lessen the amount of attempts dramatically by using a different port 10:40 qt: I do everyting on the hardfought servers, I'm afraid, logging in with 'password2'. 10:40 amateurhour: Yeah, but then I'm unlikely to be able to ssh to it from the work network. 10:40 * NetSysFire gives arahael pubkey auth and a vpn 10:41 there is also fail2ban but i am not a huge fan of it 10:41 But I sort of took the easy way out and completely cut out passwords entirely. The only way in is to use a key that's pre-entered into the system. 10:41 NetSysFire: do you find it fails 2 ban the people you want 10:41 NetSysFire: I already VPN to the work system! 10:41 qt: no its added complexity which you just dont need with pubkey auth and if you have additional mfa 10:42 you cant bruteforce pubkeys 10:42 And yeah, I use pubkeys. 10:42 i hope its all nice and shiny ed25519 keys? 10:42 No, I should migrate to those. 10:43 its all the rage, SSH 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:37229 10:44 Heh. Frankly I mostly use the defaults. 10:45 I only deviate from the defaults when they're... insane... Like allowing passwords. 10:46 Anyway, it's nearly 1am. I should sleep. G'night all! 10:49 sleep well! 10:50 gnite arahael 10:50 night 10:51 hmm i cant seem to pipe coredumpctl output to a log file 10:51 using journalctl is prob the way to go 10:52 K2: I find this to be a pretty simple summary of the various ways to use it: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-journalctl-to-view-and-manipulate-systemd-logs 10:52 journalctl is great 10:52 K2: But in short... `journalctl -f` will behave as you expect similar to `tail -f` 10:52 typical arahael, says they're going to sleep and still here 2h later :P 10:53 K2: If you choose to do more processing/parsing, you might want to consider using jq for the json stuff. 10:53 thanks 10:53