00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6873 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 194 points, T:836, killed by a boulder 01:06 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 01:06 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest916 01:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:09 -!- Guest916 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28 K2: Giant Shoggoth when? ;) 02:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:07 re the sling bullet thing, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Rock#History 02:13 And so the circle of time continues 02:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:28 @e?elder pseudodragon 02:28 elder pseudodragon (D) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: special | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical, 1d4 sting drain str | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, infravisible 02:29 "You feel that eating the elder pseudodragon was a bad idea." 02:29 sorry for eating your pet, qt 02:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible qt's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3778 02:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4379 02:35 double bones 02:50 Wait pseudodragons have the domestic pet check like cats and dogs? 02:50 Neat 02:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:51 but homunculi dont 02:53 everyone can eat infidel pets guilt free 02:57 lol 02:57 That'd be an unpleasant surprise anyway, since homunculi are an early source of poison/sleep res 02:58 :-) 02:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:16 @e?rothe 05:16 rothe (q) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d8 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 05:16 @v?rothe 05:16 rothe (q) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d8 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 05:17 i feel like they are way worse in evil 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12212 07:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2222 points, T:2110, killed by a soldier ant 07:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 239 points, T:701, killed by a gnoll hunter 08:02 nice find NetSysFire (sling bullets) 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 13653 points, T:12848, killed by an energy vortex 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1050 08:42 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:06 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3412 points, T:3397, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:3069 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Hea Cen Fem Neu), 2662 points, T:3405, quit 09:39 i always seem to find dragonhide cloaks, shirts, etc. when and only when i play giant... 09:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:23032 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1090 points, T:1412, killed by a hobbit pickpocket 09:52 wow i just found a dragonhide bag of holding on dlvl 1 09:53 whoa 09:53 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2553/source 09:54 budget bag of the hsepsdndshrdes 09:57 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 10:06 hepperthingedees 10:06 wow 10:06 dwarf shot a wand of death at me but it missed 10:06 close one 10:07 luckeeeee 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4911 points, T:5381, killed by a death ray, while taking off clothes 10:17 nymph stole my wand of death and killed me lol 10:18 hopefully it left bones, that dragonhide boh was cool 10:20 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:34 :( 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 1511 points, T:2875, killed by a hobbit pickpocket, while praying 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5553 10:48 i found qt's bones with a shield of reflection but i dunno if i want that as an infidel 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 1378 points, T:2338, killed by an arrow 11:09 why not? 11:09 spellcasting? 11:10 yeah 11:11 i may just wield it after all 11:11 err equip 11:14 dragonhide mummwrap. I swear every freaking thing I can't wear is dragonhide!! 11:14 didn't find any of this stuff when i was trying chaotic elf lol 11:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6110 points, T:6777, killed by a champion of Ishtar, while fainted from lack of food 11:27 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 12:01 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 12:12 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 bone gauntlets of power", on T:3783 12:15 nice 12:18 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 12:22 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:7677 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74079 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74080 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9333 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:74839 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:75176 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75359 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16387 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 12844 points, T:7297, burned by molten lava 13:36 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 335 points, T:533, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 13:46 oooh i came so close to dying to another gelcube 13:46 They are awful if you run into one early 13:46 i had nothing useful whatsoever, but prayer saved me from strangulation and then it just happened to spit me out 13:47 I, on the other hand, had a really nice starting character and walked into one of the stupid shopkeeper lava walls 13:47 i don't have free action, i don't even have teleportation scroll/wand... idk how I can even go onto that level again 13:47 krm26: that sucks 13:47 i'm always really nervous around those 13:48 I had all the early quality-of-life stuff so I wasn't paying too much attention 13:48 I never walk into lava with shitty characters :-) 13:52 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:54 should i get amulet or tool from sokoban? 13:54 i am leaning towards tool because i haven't found any containers yet... not even a sack 13:55 do you have MR or reflection yet? 13:55 the tool is temptations 13:55 i'm a wizard so I do have magic resistance 13:55 ok 13:55 i also learned the reflection spell 13:55 oh 13:55 toss up then. me, i'd get reflection 13:55 oh? hah 13:55 but i can't cast it yet 13:55 neat 13:55 yolo the tool 13:55 but still... 13:55 :D 13:56 yeah yolo 13:58 hmmm 13:58 on my way to get the tool i killed an mplayer and now i have a sack 13:58 now i'm no longer sure what to do 13:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JuEPK 13:59 [EvilHack] k21971 7c87f6f - Attacking with a cursed weapon can sometimes do odd things. 14:01 oooh 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 257839 points, T:29961, killed by Croesus 14:02 K2: but what about infidels here? 14:03 look at the code :) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:76461 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:21024 14:03 sorry, not everyone understands C. I should know better, I barely do 14:04 i did! but i dont see any notion to the infidel role here 14:04 so in dothrow.c there's already a provision set so infidels dont slip when throwing/firing projectiles 14:04 NetSysFire: infidel thing is the u.ualign.type = NONE bit 14:04 yup 14:04 oh 14:04 s/= NONE/!= A_NONE/ 14:05 if (uwep && uwep->cursed && !rn2(7) 14:05 && u.ualign.type != A_NONE) { 14:05 ^ that excludes any role that is unaligned 14:05 and right now that's infidels only 14:06 Time to rewrite nethack in julia 14:06 this also adds two more unique deaths to get for junethack hahah 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a leather cloak of magic resistance entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:21289 14:07 'stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself...' 14:07 nice, not a bad gift at all 14:07 every mean siblings dream come true 14:07 nice qt 14:10 wow and a mplayer knight just bequeathed me some dragonhide studded armor 14:10 just quit now, this is too easy 14:10 easy baby hack 14:11 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:13 My pets love trying to starve me by not following me properly 14:14 he had a helm of speed too 14:14 how come that doesn't stop my psionic bolt or whatever from working? 14:14 is it not metal by default? 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1054 points, T:2108, killed by a piranha 14:15 hmm 14:15 there's no material name on it... 14:15 its steel as base material 14:16 'The steel of your helm blocks your psionic attack.' 14:17 it does block it, but it has to have a target to latch onto before you get that message 14:17 ohhh 14:17 that's sort of weird 14:17 if you do psionic wave at nothing, it just doesn nothing 14:17 yeah it is 14:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 263 points, T:746, killed by a gnome lady 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 148 points, T:567, killed by a water moccasin 14:46 I think I know what it feels like to be one of those professional dog walkers. 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1095 14:54 All praise the random aggro dwarf with the +3 steel boots and pickaxe 14:54 is "bare hand fighting" relevant for getting a better to-hit with a rubber chicken? 14:54 \o\ 14:59 "I got stoned by eating chicken" 15:00 Urg, hate finding cursed stethoscopes...such a letdown 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a magical pair of boxing gloves entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:29715 15:24 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:29 Agh, stunlocked next to a shopkeeper 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3897 points, T:4072, killed by a soldier ant 15:36 K2: can you confused enchant weapon a ring to protect it from electrical damage 15:36 yes 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:80028 15:37 you can use confused enchant weapon to fooproof pretty much anything 15:37 i tried in wizmode but the name didn't change, it would be nice if it was indicated in the name 15:37 exceptions are potions, scolls and spellbooks 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:80030 15:37 if it didnt change, it means its made of a material thats already inherently fooproof 15:37 If the material is already fooproof it won't show anything (I think) 15:37 There you go 15:37 so you're gtg 15:37 But in this context fooproof means it is still going to get dusted because the random number generator hates you 15:38 well... it hates all of us 15:38 does being inherently fooproof protect it in the same way? 15:38 yes 15:38 i was just trying it in wizmode, idk if the ring in my actual game is inherently fooproof 15:38 hmm.... black onyx 15:38 yup 15:38 you're good 15:38 nice 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:80067 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:80068 15:39 i'm trying to figure out how to deal with a gelcube right next to the stairs on a lower level, who will get me as soon as i enter 15:40 i found free action (the ring in question) but it feels like that won't be enough on its own... 15:40 @e?gelatinous cube 15:40 gelatinous cube (b) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison acid petrification | Confers: fire cold sleep shock | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 2d4 touch paralyze, 1d4 engulf wrap, 1d4 passive paralyze | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, mindless, vegan 15:40 if you kill it then it will be dead 15:40 should i just geno gelcubes 15:40 @e?floating eye 15:40 floating eye (e) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d70 passive paralyze | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, amphibious, regenerates, infravisible 15:40 it wont help with being engulfed, but at least you wont get paralyzed 15:41 YASI: no intrinsics at start mode, for an extra challenge. orcs are not poison resistant, elves wont get sleep res etc 15:41 that might be an EPI 15:43 i would make it opt-in, such as zen 15:44 but this only impacts resistances which can be obtained manually, like poison cold sleep shock fire 15:44 e.g illithids still have psionic res 15:45 i killed the gelcube that was menacing me 15:45 he never even attacked me lol 15:47 gg 15:47 \o/ 15:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JuEhy 15:48 [EvilHack] k21971 69e090e - Add condition for hitting oneself with a cursed artifact weapon. 15:48 wooo qt 15:49 im eating this giant anaconda from the INSIDE OUT https://0x0.st/-wdZ.png 15:49 metal 15:51 hah 15:51 oooh no 15:52 lol 15:52 that's a nice lime green color there 15:55 i found the ice queen branch 15:55 \o/ 15:55 idk if i am strong enough to go in there though... that's what killed my last promising character 15:56 ya, no way I was going to survive that 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 2024510 points, T:80566, killed by a barbed devil (with the Amulet), while fainted from lack of food 15:56 I'm gonna call that success and quit playing 15:56 ouch :( 15:56 sorry bouquet_ :/ 15:56 !lastgame bouquet 15:56 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1630362094.evil.html 15:56 dang 15:57 that's about 5000% further than i have ever gotten so yeah, sounds like a success to me 15:59 gg 15:59 :/ 15:59 fainting and burdened... off 15:59 ooof 16:00 no shame in astral splat 16:02 K2: did you ever fix the chameleon thing 16:03 where chameleons can select their own form at random, and then it will then prevent them from ever changing shape again 16:03 um 16:03 lemme check 16:03 i think we talked about it a while ago 16:03 we did, i recall 16:03 it seems like it happened in my game again just now 16:04 no it has not been addressed 16:21 K2: possible solution https://termbin.com/57oj 16:21 oh oops ignore that objnam.c thing 16:22 that was from when i was trying to shockproof my ring, i wanted to see if the scroll took effect even though the object was inherently fooproof :) 16:24 heh 16:25 this is just the chameleon part https://termbin.com/vnqku 16:25 is crystal platemail magical? 16:26 is it inherently magical, like will it show up as "magical" if you're a wizard? 16:26 no 16:26 i don't think so 16:26 it would only show up that way if it had an object property i think 16:26 yes 16:27 crystal platemail of excellence may be a good wish 16:27 or warning or searching or esp, depending on what you need 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:26011 16:34 thanks qt 16:34 i just noticed that sluggoman had a crash yesterday, didnt report it 16:35 he cast reflection spell, he was covered in a shimmering globe, then boop crash 16:35 no coredump but i'm looking at the ttyrec 16:35 something with bare_artifact() 16:35 hmm 16:35 err bare_artifactname() 16:35 then monflee() right after 16:36 what's the ttyrec url 16:36 https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/s/sluggoman/evilhack/ttyrec/2021-09-08.16:38:55.ttyrec.gz 16:37 he's playing right now... ugh he must have started a new game 16:38 wow, he was pretty far along in the crashed one 16:38 was at vecna's domain 16:39 why would he not ask for a recover? 16:40 ugh i gotta go, back in a couple hrs 16:42 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14 i'm pretty mystified by this crash 17:14 it's related to a gremlin fleeing from gold dragon scale mail 17:15 and it's a part of the code that was recently modified when k2 added the shield of light, so it seems likely that's relevant 17:16 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 17:17 but... it looks sort of like this 17:17 if ( || || ) { 17:17 pline("your %s is glowing :P", ? : ? : ) 17:17 } 17:18 qt could it just be 'litwep' being null? 17:18 somehow it hit that case, even though the glowing thing was worn gdsm 17:18 yeah that's the reason i think, but how did it get to bare_artifactname in the first place? 17:19 shouldn't it have gone to the 'yobjnam(litarmor, (char *) 0)' case since he was wearing gold dragon mail? 17:20 dsm isn't an artifact is it? 17:20 flees_light(mtmp) was true, which checks '(uarm && uarm->lamplit && artifact_light(uarm))', but then just a couple lines down '(uarm && artifact_light(uarm) && uarm->lamplit)' was apparently false 17:20 artifact_light returns true for gold dragon scale mail even though it's not an artifact 17:20 (currently worn gold dragon scale mail) 17:21 oh 17:23 i guess actually i'm looking at more recent code, since it says 0.7.0 17:23 in the ttyrec 17:25 oh 17:25 doh 17:25 lol this is just a bug that I guess was inadvertently(?) fixed in b1b4eb2 17:26 so it was related to that commit as I suspected, just the opposite way i had thought :P 17:26 prior to that commit it just used bare_artifactname(weapon) for everything and didn't account for gold dragon scale mail 17:26 this bug is in vanilla 17:27 hah i remember when i was adding light shield, I thought 'oh hey vanilla bug' 17:27 it became a thing when Pat added gold dragon scales 17:27 (to vanilla) 17:28 and then I imported the way he did it to evilhack 17:28 so this is already fixed in 0.7.1 17:28 wow yeah it is in vanilla 17:28 #justiceforsluggoman 17:29 i think he destroyed the old game and started a new one 17:29 in the ttyrec turncount was about 60k, his current game was around 41k turns 17:31 why would he do that? :/ 17:31 did you report this to the vanilla devteam K2? 17:31 no not yet 17:31 you definitely should 17:31 yup 17:31 i caught it wheni was testing light shield with a gremlin and it said my sling scared it 17:32 is a vanilla bug a vanilla flavoried insect 17:32 lol i was really confused trying to understand what happened 17:32 i bet you can reproduce the crash by wearing gdsm in the precense of a gremlin while bare handed 17:32 yeah you can 17:32 i just tested in vanilla 17:32 it crashes 17:32 \o/ 17:33 i'll send a report later tonight 17:33 leaving again in a few min, mini-me has dance class 17:33 monday's acro, thrusday's, hip hop 17:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1Xn1vzOM4 17:38 i know everyone paused to watch 'hip hop hooray' 17:38 who wouldnt? 17:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Ith Mal Una) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:2431 17:52 The water nymph stole a silver amulet called lifesaving. fuuuu 17:53 they dont put those on, do they 17:53 sure they do 17:53 even in vanilla 17:53 fuck 17:54 any suggestions? 17:54 stealing it back is the only way 17:54 or maybe poly her 17:55 and hope she ends up as something that can't wear things 17:55 i dont have poly 17:56 then your only chance is kill her fast and hope she hasn't put it on (but she probably has) 17:56 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:57 yup its gone 18:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8673 points, T:6998, choked on a mountain nymph corpse 18:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:19 hmm if I were going to add a free action armor item I would probably add d&d boots of free movement 19:19 give speed boots some real competition 19:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5174 20:00 Infidel doesn't get sticky from blessed items? 20:01 Assumed it would 20:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:02 nope 20:02 they are weldproof 20:02 got a loadstone? i can drop it no probs 20:17 y'know what I hate about evilhack? 20:17 it's evil? 20:17 the fact that I astral splatted a few hours ago after a very involved run and I just know I'm going to try again. 20:17 no paranoid_{water|lava|trap}? 20:17 "worse than heroin" 20:18 You still can't #tip your hat? 20:18 and the #tip hat thing. How is that not a thing? 20:18 you can #tip your readable hawaiian shirt though 20:19 you can read hawaiian shirts but no #tip'ing hats? 20:19 however, we should demand hawaiian print hats 20:19 bobble ones 20:19 that you can tip 20:19 some variant the gnomes have those candle hats. Those are handy 20:19 dnh touch, I think 20:23 I'm pretty sure K2 is some kind of evil NSA operative and he's using evilhack to find the next super spy who can withstand epic disapointment without giving up. 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:13763 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13768 20:30 Moloch Mines' End, looks like 20:34 lol 20:34 hmm if I were going to add a free action armor item I would probably add d&d boots of free movement <-- that would be cool. but centaurs are a playable race here and they cant wear boots 20:35 Well, the racial armor limitations can't govern everything 20:35 helm of free action 20:35 ez 20:35 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:36 Here's an idea: randomize the set of critical resists and their basic items each game -- MR, free action, reflection with cloak, ring, shield 20:36 Just as an example 20:36 So one game would be amulet of free action, cloak of reflection, shield of magic resistance 20:36 For example 20:37 i find it heart warming that you think my coding skills are good enough to pull that off :P 20:37 There would still be other sources -- dragon scale, artifacts, etc 20:37 You aren't a programmer by trade? 20:37 that idea is very nethacky though, i like it 20:37 krm26 oh god no 20:37 i'm not a programmer at all 20:38 my total experience programming, aside from learning basic in middle school, has been the last 3 or so years with nethack 20:38 I'm a software engineer with like 45,000 years of experience, and I also wrote some of the original networked adventure games on the PLATO/NovaNET system back in the late 70's/80's. If you ever want to anything weird in the code I'd be happy to help 20:38 that's awesome 20:38 i'm a sysadmin currently 20:39 Although honestly, familiarity with the devenv/code is much more important than anything else 20:39 'fake it til you make it' 20:39 hahaha 20:39 But if you want to write a convolutional encoding algorithm to secure your secret nethack special level maps I can help 20:40 thanks 20:40 The first roguelike I wrote had a set of monster classes (like, undead, demons, beasts, etc.) and a set of object materials (different wood, metal, fabric, gem types) and randomized the set relationships each game 20:41 evilhack would not be where its at without all the community support. i've received a fair amount of help 20:41 So every new game you had to figure out that silver helped against beasts and linen against demons, etc. 20:41 nice 20:41 you ever play unnethack? 20:41 Yes indeed 20:41 the dragons there are randomized 20:41 Before evil I mostly played FIQ and Un 20:41 like a box of chocolates 20:42 i really enjoy unnethack 20:42 i've played a few games of fiqhack, ascended it once 20:42 Yeah, it is nice when each game's puzzles are different -- when you have to find unique ways to put together the resists, etc. that differ game-to-game 20:42 That's an alternative to just making things get crushingly difficult for keeping engagement 20:43 I still think evil would be plenty evil with sanity checks when walking into water and lava :-) 20:43 not gonna happen :) its good enough for vanilla, its good enough here 20:44