00:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 00:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:31 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 00:34 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 00:48 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:57 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 00:57 -!- Pinkbeas1 has joined #evilhack 02:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:4421 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22516 02:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (erbium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:15 at this rate I might just defer xnethack to december to avoid a triple xnh/splice/evil concurrent release 06:16 K2: the ludios maps in evilhack are not completely identical to the ones in unnethack. you added at least a hidden corridor 07:11 did I? :) 07:11 neat 07:15 not sure why you'd want a corridor up to the upper left room but what do I know about being evil? 07:16 i dont even know what i'm thinking half the time 07:16 K2 what is your secret to being evil? 07:16 K2 isn't evil, just misunderstood 07:17 NetSysFire - to not try. do or do not, there is no try 07:17 lol amateurhour 07:17 my last 2 commits werent very evil 07:18 i feel a bit of sadness 07:18 but those were more big good for less sad 07:19 i know right? what to do... 07:19 I wonder who'll be the first to asc centaur knight 07:19 probs mobi heh 07:19 * K2 looks at amateurhour 07:20 you should give evilhack a serious try once 0.7.1 is out 07:21 there's a fair amount of 'more big good for less sad' 07:21 you keep saying you're not good enough, but I dont believe that 07:21 i mean, if mobileuser can ascend it, anyone can right? :) 07:23 absolutely! 07:23 :P 07:23 did you see the sling bullets commit? 07:23 \o/ 07:23 haha yeah 07:24 K2 i absolutely hate the gray funguses 07:24 good 07:24 i hate them too 07:24 does that mean we are now going to be ripped to shreds by hobbis firing bullets ;-) 07:24 maybe 07:24 hahah 07:24 * hobbitses 07:24 brb 07:25 NetSysFire don't hit gray funguses 07:25 i dont but i always accidentally walk into them 07:25 bhaak: the secret corridor on the left in the regular ludios map? that one is vanilla's 07:25 I hate locusts a lot more 07:25 locusts are horrible 07:25 i lost my most successful run to them 07:26 double bones 07:26 arahael this time 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5987 07:28 Where was it? :D 07:28 mines, You read: "Arahael, killed by a soldier ant". 07:28 dlvl 5 07:29 Ah, yeah. 07:32 there is another ghost of you 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6207 07:33 I think I remember that one now. :) 07:33 Don't think there was anything particularly special. 07:34 You read: "Arahael, killed by a gold golem, while taking off clothes" 07:34 it was special 07:34 :D 07:35 There was a beautiful nymph on that level. 07:35 n <- beautiful like this? 07:35 ŋ -< or like this? 07:36 dammit i messed up the arrow 07:37 The former. 07:37 also i found an engagement ring on your grave 07:37 so it must have been a truly beautiful nymph 07:37 It was. I wouldn't have taken my clothes off otherwise. 07:38 yeees healing potions are smoky in this game 07:38 hot 07:39 K2 mobileuser is actually good though, I'm just an amateur 07:39 Just scrolled up... What!? Bullets? 07:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7686 points, T:6735, killed by a gold golem 07:40 I don't think I particularly like guns in nethack, just feels off. 07:40 dammit 07:40 revenge of the gold golem 07:40 NetSysFire: You didn't go down in style. 07:40 i did, my clothes are stylish so i kept them on 07:41 Ha. 07:41 A lava gremlin!? 07:42 No way I can survive now. :( 07:43 Now it's an ice devil. 07:43 chameleon 07:43 !whereis arahael 07:43 NetSysFire: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:4081 The Dungeons of Doom level: 8 07:44 NetSysFire: Yes, but I don't expect Vampire -> Lava gremlin -> Ice Devil in that sequence. 07:44 better than master lich 07:44 err arch lich 07:44 I've had that before. 07:44 arch mind flayer 07:44 Eh, that'd have been fine. 07:44 We're illithids. :) 07:45 yes and we suck 07:45 arahael: sling bullets, no guns! 07:45 mobileuser: What was wrong with the flint stones? Thems took out Goliath! 07:45 aosdict: oh, a vanilla change around or pre 3.6. but K2 updated the additional maps to have that as well 07:46 I'm not sure I like the added giant. 07:46 NetSysFire: We do suck, indeed. 07:48 bhaak the added giant sometimes provides you with a useful boulder 07:49 mobileuser: I know. babyeasyhack. bring your own boulder 07:49 lol 07:49 I mean, it's not much of trouble. but providing an easy way to cross the moat seems unnecessary. it's an optional branch after all 07:53 given that croesus can move monsters out of his way to get to you, you prob dont want to cross the moat 07:53 @e?croesus 07:53 Croesus (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical | Alignment: 15 | Flags: omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 07:54 I never thought I'd say it, but I enjoy the "classic" soko levels now. 07:55 you dont like the new ones? 07:55 I do, but when I'm playing at night, tired and weary, sometimes it's painful to think. :) 07:55 heh 07:55 and yeah no guns in evilhack 07:55 Good. 07:55 sling bullets. its a real thing 07:56 Sling bullets is pushing it, imho. 07:56 how? there's no gun powder involved 07:56 a sling bullet is just a sling stone made from metal 07:57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sling_(weapon) 07:57 no try thi s- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sling_(weapon)#Ammunition 07:57 been used for millennia 07:58 Interesting. 07:58 Yeah, I like that. 07:59 bullet ants in evil when? 07:59 Might make the sling a feasible weapon, for once. 07:59 -!- Pinkbeas1 is now known as Pinkbeast 07:59 the damage a sling bullet can do isnt much more than a flint stone, but since they can be different materials, it opens the door to some interesting stratigies against demons or other material hating creatures 08:00 NetSysFire soldier ants = bullet ants heh 08:00 @e?soldier ants 08:00 soldier ants ~1~ soldier ant (a) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 2d4 bite physical, 3d4 sting drain str | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, poisonous 08:00 no bullet ants are even worse 08:01 ranks highest on the schmidt pain index, too 08:02 really? I thought the highest thing on that scale was 'having to watch highlander movies 2 through 4' 08:02 I actually wanted to watch those, but they don't have captions. 08:02 K2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_sting_pain_index#Pain_Level_4 08:03 arahael you're not missing anything. the first highlander is one of the best movies of all time (imo) and then 2-4 are just shit 08:03 there can be only one... again 08:03 K2: I would love to have watched the first 08:03 But again, had no captiosn. 08:03 Most painful movies I've ever seen would have to be American Pie. 08:03 hmm that doesnt sound right 08:03 lol no i llove that movie 08:03 its hilarious 08:03 * arahael rolls his eyes. 08:04 I was practically forced to watch it, there were only so many movies on a long 30-hour flight. 08:04 i have the highlander on blu ray i'm pretty sure it has captions 08:04 most painful movie I know about is foodfight (kids movie) 08:05 Blu ray might well have captions - I haven't kept up with the times, though. Our newest optical drive is DVD. 08:07 oof 08:07 bluray is getting old now arahael :P 08:07 K2: One thing I've noticed is that most people seem to be very much into the dialogue, and quotes. I guess it's all about 'how you say it'. I don't get any of that. 08:07 K2: you were declared slextinctionist by amy btw 08:07 do you have a streaming service like netflix or amazon prime? 08:07 K2: So American Pie was simply crude, and nothing more than that. 08:08 true but younger me thought it was hilarious 08:08 K2: We do have Disney Plus at the moment, previosly Netflix but i got cranky when several movies had no subtitles that I pulled teh plug. 08:08 K2: I watched it whilst I was already older me. :( 08:08 hmm 08:08 Besides, I got tired of trying to VPN so much just to watch good netflix shows. 08:08 The selection they show australians is much reduced. :( 08:10 There's also Apple TV, but when I had the free trial, the first like, 4 movie selections I tried to watch turned out to be premium, and it's not obvious, so at that point, it just looked like a subscription service I'd have to pay for only to get the honor of then being shown advertisements for "premium" shows I'd have to pay (more) to watch. 08:11 the remastered copy of the highlander on bluray has subtitles 08:12 Ah, interesting. 08:12 I don't watch all that many shows, honestly. 08:12 How else woudl I find the time if I'm playing evil? ;) 08:13 heh 08:13 oooh there's an even newer bluray remaster than the copy I have 08:15 oh wow - 'It was announced earlier this year that Studio Canal was performing a 4K restoration of the film for a new bluray release which featured an expanded version of the prior making of documentary (from originally about 90 to now 120 minutes), new interviews with the director Russel Mulcahy and star Christopher Lambert (about 20 minutes each) in addition to the vintage commentary track 08:15 from the director and prior featurettes.' 08:15 w a n t 08:16 https://www.amazon.com/Highlander-30th-Anniversary-Bluray-Blu-ray/dp/B01IN8H2GA/ 08:16 its in DVD format too arahael :P 08:16 but seriously, get yourself a bluray player. they're cheap nowadays and they'll play all of your dvd's too 08:17 K2: The only DVD's I still have are basically Dr Who episodes. :D 08:17 heheh 08:17 And those are buried deep in a closet. :( I need to give them to a friend once I can let myself get rid of them. 08:18 Too much clutter in an apartment. Always tryhing to cut things out. 08:18 we still have all of your dvd/bluray discs, I converted them all to mp4 a long time ago 08:18 all your DVDs> did they drop the region nonsense? 08:19 Pinkbeast: Nope, not even when it was found illegal. 08:19 i read that as religion for whatever reason and thought "were they ads on the dvds?" 08:19 i have software that removes all that silliness 08:20 I use an nvidia shield console to stream the content from my hard drive array 08:20 that thing is *awesome* for streaming 08:21 pihole? 08:21 I do run pihole. 08:22 * arahael wonders how he is getting hungry in *soko*. 08:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 10059 points, T:6857, killed by a gnome queen 08:27 Crazy overpowered gnome queens. 08:29 * NetSysFire gives arahael some psionic wave 08:29 Thanks. That felt soothing. 08:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36 * arahael starts a new game. Illithid again. 08:36 * arahael is a sucker for punishment, 08:36 !whereis arahael 08:36 NetSysFire: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 08:38 Now level 2 :) 08:39 Playing right handed because the left is occupied by a glass of port 08:39 are you left handed? 08:39 i always play right handed because vikeys tend to be in the territory of my right hand 08:39 arahael: One of my last tournament ascenations was attributed to "delicious navy rum" 08:40 arahael: this is why straws were invented 08:40 so u can nethack and drink at the same time 08:40 *specifically* for nethack 08:41 NetSysFire: I'm mostly ambidextrious actually but i almost always keyboard with both hands 08:41 same, but not the ambidextrious part 08:41 amateurhour: Straws are bad for the environment. ;) 08:41 just wash them and reuse them, e z 08:41 another problem solved 08:41 * NetSysFire gives arahael some reusable straws 08:42 there are bamboo, silicon and stainless steel ones for example 08:42 I do own two metal straws. 08:42 I didn't buy them, shops just randomly chose to give me them. 08:45 Woo! Found banded mail! I can stop wearing this plate mail now. 08:49 arent you a wizard? 09:16 I am, but I prefer having better AC in the very early game. 09:16 Especially since I can psionic attack so easily. 09:16 Anyway, g'night. 09:17 cya 09:18 G"night K2 :) 09:18 * NetSysFire throws a potion of sleeping at arahael 09:20 Lol, we just pirate the movies in Russia 09:21 we had a russian student at an uni i worked at and we had to give her a written warning because she pirated movies here and this will get you a high fine 09:21 my brother had to pay 915€ for 12 seconds of upload /o\ 09:21 Germany is suspiciously weird about that stuff in comparison 09:22 had friends move to Germany and they got slapped with fines 09:22 lol 09:22 i guess i don't even know a person who doesn't pirate and we never get fines here 09:24 not that i'm proud of it, just telling 09:24 same 09:25 never heard of anyone getting a fine except for those that moved to Germany haha 09:26 where are you from, amateurhour? 09:26 you know who slaps them with fines? 09:27 lawyers employed by e.g warner bros who provide those torrents 09:27 the UK 09:27 and if you download this torrent they capture your ip addr 09:27 great, isnt it 09:30 i make copies of dvd/bluray that I own or have rented. i do not distribute them however 09:31 straight to jail 09:32 nerp 09:37 [backscroll] here in Brazil people pirate everything all the time and nobody gets a fine. As long as you don't ask for money or use pirated content commercially, you can fly under the radar easily 09:40 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 09:42 * NetSysFire calls the kops on K2 09:43 just kidding, i dont think piracy is that bad either 09:43 I don't think so, either. At least for non-commercial, non-profit piracy 09:43 I draw the line at "making money from pirated content" 09:43 yeah 09:44 but it also depends too, if you are a new producer of content which gets pirated and you are missing out on a lot of money you would need its not nice, but big studios swimming in money dont deserve my pity 09:45 https://xkcd.com/488/ 09:51 i remove the DRM from all of the ebooks I get, that way I can read them on any platform I choose 09:51 I pay for my ebooks 09:52 i was too lazy to dump all of my old console games so i downloaded them off archive.org 09:53 apparently irc is a hive of ebook piracy? I just learned this recently 09:53 perhaps not libera but other networks 09:54 piracy is offtopic on libera since its against swedish law apparently 09:54 as in dont create dedicated piracy channels 09:55 there used to be a channel in freenode way back when where you would post a book name and a bot would message you a link 09:55 or so I've heard 09:59 this would be a good moment for a random person to join this channel expecting hacker talk 10:01 evil hacks! 10:02 henlo frens how to hack my friedns facebook?? 10:08 date them, earn their trust, get their password 10:09 amateurhour: i run a defensive (this is important) security channel on another irc network and we had to deal with that so many times already ugh 10:10 "i think my fiancee is cheating can you hack her" 10:14 haha I bet that's really annoying 10:15 ahh... just the irc conversation I was looking for. 10:17 K2: in light of Antigulp's reddit post are you keeping gnollhack in the selection choice? 10:17 not sure 10:18 if i were to remove it, i dont think many ppl would notice 10:18 I think it's worth keeping 10:18 I'll remove any of that demo stuff if needed 10:19 :/ 10:19 it can be patched though 10:19 the license allows this 10:22 amateurhour you could just publish your own android app "gnollhack unlocked" 10:28 true, Demo suggested that earlier 10:29 since you would be the maintainer of that and since its considered "super easy babyhack", could you rename it to amateurhack? 10:29 * NetSysFire quickly conjures a boulder fort 10:29 gnollhack isn't super easy baby hack, it does have super easy baby hack modes though 10:30 if you play it on expert it's probably around the same difficulty as vanilla 10:30 i heard so but i had to make that pun 10:31 hah 10:31 sorry I'm slow today 10:32 should have eaten that quantum mechanic 10:49 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:6384 10:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:2206 11:04 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Mal Una) had a plaid spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:3663 11:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4086 points, T:5971, killed by a wand 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3051 11:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:11235 11:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:11700 11:25 definitely not ready for her lol 11:26 umbire isn't here? I wanted to show him my "get an artifact into the game without the owner kill you when you're a giant strategy " 11:27 umbire doesnt have a bouncr 11:27 que? 11:28 an irc bouncer to stay logged in and get all messages 11:28 so he isnt here all the time 11:28 but luckily this channel is logged 11:28 this broad would F me up right now but i've pre dug my hole to dig down 11:28 yes, but he won't be able to look at my game 11:29 quick we need to say something umbire totally hates, that will surely summon him 11:29 hehe 11:29 baller 11:29 detect food is a useless spell 11:29 except when trying to find food 11:29 i've found TWO detect food spellbooks so far 11:29 it has no redeeming features at all 11:29 poly fodder 11:29 just wish for a blessed greased partially eaten diluted burnt fixed boulder named carl 11:29 (and I have polymorph so yes it is redeeming) 11:30 just saying something Umbire would disagree with :P 11:30 ahh 11:30 heh 11:30 light and detect food are pretty useless 11:30 he disagrees with just about everything i say.. I kinda like him for that reason 11:30 aww 11:30 you could replace detect food with detect foot and it would be more useful 11:31 i wonder... 11:31 no, scroll of wonder is bad 11:31 amateurhour do you know that 'detect foot' is a spell in sporkhack? 11:31 yes 11:31 damn 11:31 was hoping you didnt 11:31 if it wasn't so high levelled it would be useful 11:31 this could have been epic 11:32 it's in slashthem as well 11:32 slex had a scroll/wand of wonder. it had a random effect when casted 11:32 Skilled detect foot should also detect monsters' feet 11:32 the problem is that there are so many nasty traps and other nasty effects ingame that it was rather detrimental 11:32 i really wanted to wish for dragonbane, but i got reflection plus had already enchanted these badass bone GOPower 11:32 like if detect foot was a level say 3 spell, you could just learn it and cast it to confuse yourself on demand 11:32 was does detect foot do? 11:32 rather than forgetting a spell or using booze 11:32 i thought you could detect monsters with legs with it 11:32 you detect your own foot and get confused 11:32 NetSysFire: it is what it sounds like 11:32 lol 11:33 so that really niche use is still better than detect food imo :P 11:38 oh sweet i got the orc mines end with the altars w00t! 11:39 this is a great start 11:39 * rebatela jinxes self 11:40 Eota in the game? I just need to survive to the point that i can fight neferet and somehow get dragonbane and we are good 11:41 usually being able to fight neferet is like post-castle stuff.... Which is why my strategy was to wish for it early before i see more artifacts 11:42 never know when you're going to find bones with sting etc 11:42 or crap weapons on the ground while playing weaponless 11:42 rebatela: in future evilhack you won't get screwed over by finding crap artifacts 11:43 oh yeah? i'm a little out of the loop 11:43 did someone complain about too many artifacts and he got rid of them ? 11:43 is there a load stone on this level? 11:43 haha nah, just artiwishing rules changing a lil 11:44 what is this level called? i'll look it up. I think it's only in variants though 11:45 nvm i found it. orc temple (and no load stone) 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12436 11:54 oh snap i'm invisible 11:54 so much for price id 11:54 actually i have tel control. just need to eat a leprachuan or something 11:54 it's gonna suck for kiting wraiths though :( 11:55 maybe i'll be visible again by then... 11:55 * NetSysFire gives rebatela some mummy wrapping 11:55 giant size? :( 11:55 that's the issue... 11:55 oh 11:55 i'd be wearing a damn robe if it would fit! 11:55 would actually be able to spellcast 11:56 i found identify spellbook but i doubt i can cast it at all 12:07 THIRD spbk of detect food 12:07 detect frood 12:07 really hoopy spell 12:09 lol 12:14 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 12:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15366 12:16 hey qt, i'm sorry - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4e2f188b183cc2e2f09df22a941013bb4fa7a6f4 12:16 read the commit notes 12:17 that's it, im never working on evilhack again 12:17 pearls before swine 12:17 :( 12:17 but... i'm wearing a hawaiian shirt 12:17 lol jk i will look into it when i have a second, i think it should be fairly easy to fix it again 12:17 heh 12:17 sounds good 12:17 can you read your hawaiian shirt 12:18 i tried to make it work, I think I missing something easy 12:18 yes 12:18 it says 'I <3 readable hawaiian shirts' 12:18 (and bobble hats) 12:21 turned one of the detect foods into magic missile... 88% fail though lol. I need my wisdom back. It'd be great if this unidentifed helm is brilliance 12:21 go ahead put it on 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:15426 12:21 it'll be ok 12:21 lol noooo 12:21 aaaaand of course it wasnt and i lost my protectrion 12:21 bastards 12:21 all of you... the rng gods, k2, others who play the game 12:21 scammed 12:23 i can kill Kaen with 88% fail mm... it'll just take a while 12:23 as long as you can sleep them consistently you might be able to just punch them to death 12:25 yeah i can't even really fight the xorns and stuff yet. I haven't even been below soko. I just really want MR! 12:26 I still use scare monster for the xorns 12:26 I kinda hate the monk quest, I think it's so badly designed 12:27 dont let master po hear you 12:29 the monk quest is HORRIBLE 12:29 zero loot 12:29 copy of priest quest 12:29 hardest boss 12:29 ugh 12:29 k2 i think i fixed the zombification thing, try this https://termbin.com/80gz 12:30 i need some of those magic staffs 12:31 damn qt that was fast. i cant seem to wrap my brain around that stuff, as in what to do to make it right 12:31 someday... 12:31 i'll test it here in a few 12:31 yeah rebatela, it's because it was that way in slash'em 12:32 vanilla ported monk from slash'em and made a few (imo) mistakes 12:32 for sure 12:32 you should be able to wear a cloak over the robe first of all 12:32 yeah 12:32 and if they're gonna nerf martial arts so much they should have nerfed kaen too 12:33 robe over a cloak.. what madness is this 12:33 and why did they port the quest directly instead of making a good one 12:33 next you'll be trying to cover up hawaiian shirts 12:33 xorns and earth elementals... such a bad idea 12:33 robe is in the armor slot 12:34 ONE time in vanilla i had this crazy monk quest.. there were chests on the final level with crazy stuff, WoW etc. 12:34 felt like i was dreaming 12:34