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06:23 they were trying to take off their boots to put on water walking 06:24 too late 06:24 ahh 06:24 i can imagine it makes sense to eat an amulet of magical breathing in evil 06:25 if only they had been crowned... demon form can fly 06:25 maybe they wanted to be the first person to ever ascend an infidel crowningless 06:25 only with specific armor though 06:25 yeah, easy enough. scales. 06:25 mobileuser crowningless infidel asc WHEN 06:25 never! :-) 06:26 mobileuser ascending as a zombie WHEN :P 06:26 lol 06:26 mobileuser ascending as a illithid infidel WHEN 06:26 I wonder what happens if you're an infidel, resurrect as a zombie, then get crowned 06:26 no wait thats my part 06:26 illithid infidel is hard :-( 06:27 but still kinda satisfying 06:27 it would kill my win rate % :b 06:28 (brb) 06:29 make another account just for illithid infidels 06:44 heh 06:44 :) 06:44 K2: Message from qt at 2021-09-01 22:29 EDT: uhitm.c:1529 -- "It's stomach" should be "Its stomach" (or you could use mhis) 06:44 !tell qt thanks 06:44 I'm on it, K2. 06:44 BTW, something weird with boulders... 06:45 You can fill a water square with a boulder 06:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3813 06:45 How can a giant drown with 32 boulders in inventory :-) 06:45 sounds overpowered 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:7788 06:46 YASI: we should be able to fill pools with a huge chunk of meat, causing meaty terrain 06:47 mmm meat 06:47 i imagine huge chucks of meat as bacon 06:47 chunks even 06:47 superior bacon or weird american bacon? :) 06:47 Carl the baconchuck 06:47 same thing 06:47 lol 06:48 i'm so sore 06:48 meaty terrain should make you slip 06:48 started working out again. my body is like 'wtf are you doing, i thought we stopped doing this!?' 06:51 meaty terrain should be bouncy 06:52 YASI: trampoline terrain, if you're stood on it you can #jump even if you wouldn't otherwise be able to 06:52 neeeeaaat 06:52 if it's connected to other trampoline terrain, jumping makes monsters and items get flung about too 06:52 if they're on them 06:52 only epic ideas here 06:55 :) 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9427 points, T:7927, killed by a rope golem 07:00 noo 07:02 :( 07:02 there were a couple of really close calls in that run 07:02 and i even spawned with +o identify 07:03 ^ that is a blessing and a curse 07:03 why? 07:03 starting with a spellbook of ID is awesome 07:03 BUT 07:03 you cant use it at the start 07:03 starting with healing or protection is a lot better for survivability 07:03 as an illithid you use psionic wave very often so it doesnt matter too much 07:04 you cant start with healing as an infidel 07:04 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 07:04 i know 07:04 i think the most useful starting spells you can get are create monster, protection and identify 07:04 i'm just saying there are better spells to start with 07:04 yeah 07:04 also force bolt 07:04 sleep 07:04 even though I made it a lvl 2 spell 07:04 sleep is whack imo 07:05 it really should be lvl 3 minimum 07:05 but 2 is fine 07:05 slex had a death eater (as in harry potter) role which started with a spellbook of acid sphere, charm monster and finger of death (the 3 forbidden spells) 07:05 s/sphere/stream/ 07:05 i found that kind of nice 07:06 was charm monster still level 3? 07:06 i dont know but only acid stream would work 07:06 ah 07:06 charm monster and finger of death are just too high level 07:06 charm monster is lvl 6 in evilhack, and in a couple other variants 07:07 or is it lvl 5 07:07 i forget 07:07 but it got its lvl bumped up 07:07 what do you think about a staff of healing as an infidel? 07:07 as in... ? 07:17 they are restricted in healing spells 07:17 and quarterstaff seems to be a sensible choice 07:21 sure they can use it 07:21 increase chance of casting healing spells by 50% 07:22 the first level spell shouldnt be a problem for an infidel anyways 07:24 yeah 07:25 but i think cure sickness, restore ability and extra healing is important 07:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:31 once you are a high level infidel you can cast almost any spell without penalty 07:32 only the high level matter spells remain a problem 09:14 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4214 points, T:3247, killed by a giant watchman 09:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:14053 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a bone dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:14112 10:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1818 points, T:1280, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16995 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical wormwood staff entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:19346 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical ragged spellbook given to him by Thoth, on T:19576 11:47 Thoth is generous today 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21667 12:23 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:23860 13:18 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20263 points, T:7410, killed by a giant ant 13:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 511 points, T:915, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 13:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 809 points, T:982, killed by a gnome lord 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:784 14:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 633 points, T:1568, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wererat, while fainted from lack of food 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:29456 14:46 YANI: sleep spell cast as expert in enchantment gives the option of working like a magic flute (area around player). 14:48 ah, nobody can get expert in enchantment I don't think :( 14:52 not even a wizard? 14:55 yeah 14:55 qt: Message from K2 at 2021-09-02 06:44 EDT: thanks 14:55 no problem 14:56 huh 14:56 another assumption destroyed 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 785 points, T:1229, burned by a fireball, while praying 14:57 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wizard#Skills 14:57 wow wtf, even when you are praying and safe from attacks they can still fireball you to death 14:57 this is BS, mannnn 14:58 any range attack is fair game, even vanilla 14:58 afaik 14:58 I don't think the monster casting accounts for uinvulnerable 14:58 no, in vanilla when uinvulnerable monsters will not ranged attack you 14:58 so this: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wizard#Skills <--- i'd drop clerical to basic, bump enchantmnt to expert 14:58 that makes more sense flavor wise 15:00 for a sec there qt I saw Ith as Inf and was wondering how you died to a fireball being fireproof an all 15:00 but there aren't any good high-level enchantment spells 15:00 so basically there'd be no benefit from getting to expert in enchantment anyway 15:00 in vanilla that'd be true 15:01 in evilhack charm monster is lvl 5 15:01 oh 15:01 sleep is lvl 2 (for discussion sake) 15:01 evilhack should add infidel-only 'domination' spell, level 7 15:02 'I dominate thee! Wash mine dishes, knave!' 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:30338 15:08 k2 honestly this kind of seems like a bug 15:08 getting fireballed while praying 15:09 monsters are supposed to be able to cast non-attack spells like haste self, summon monsters, etc, instead of attacking you 15:09 but fireball is being categorized as one of those non-attack spells so they're able to cast it even though they aren't supposed to be attacking you 15:09 really? 15:10 hmm 15:10 yeah it uses "is_undirected_spell" to determine whether a spell is legal to use in the non-attack phase 15:10 and fireball is in the list as undirected, along with various other attack spells 15:11 in vanilla all the "undirected" spells are not direct attacks 15:11 ugh 15:12 i dont remember why exactly, but at the time if I didnt put that spell under is_undirected_spell, monsters wouldnt cast it 15:12 acid blast is prob under that same category 15:12 that function is definitely used in other places too, so yeah I don't think the solution would just be to remove it... 15:13 undirected meaning that it's not cast in a direction 15:13 smite-targeted 15:13 right, it doesnt have to be line of sight 15:13 that's tangled up semantically with "non-attack spells" 15:13 yeah, maybe instead of using that as a way to determine whether it's a peaceful spell 15:13 there should be a distinct "non-direct-attack spells" function 15:16 it might require some kind of modification to mcastu as well since the "cast a peaceful spell" thing just uses "cant see you, doesnt know where you are" to force it to cast a nondirectional spell 15:16 may need some additional param to explicitly force a non-attack spell? 15:17 this might affect sporkhack as well 15:17 that where these spells (fire/ice bolt) came from 15:19 initial scan looks as if it would 15:21 yup 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:31418 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:33324 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33325 16:09 oh man 16:09 this is so broken lol 16:10 i think the *only* time monsters use the fireball spell is during their 'non-attack' phase 16:10 because attack spells in vanilla are either beams or "hero is one square away" spells 16:11 or, i mean, they will use it if they're adjacent to you. but when they are more than one square away they will only use it during their non-attack phase 16:11 really to implement this correctly you'd need to reorganize a bunch of monster spellcasting stuff 16:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1713 points, T:1892, killed by a giant spider 16:13 whooooo's up for another big ai rewrite? 16:13 it will be fun 16:15 It's funny you say that because my vorpal jabberwock seems to be proximity-challenged even with like 20 blows on a whistle 16:17 hey qt how does that affect how often you get hit by acid blast etc? 16:17 as in the amount of times it gets cast, rather than the accuracy 16:17 i think normally spellcasters can either move or cast an attack spell, but this permits them to cast acid blast/fireball/etc on the same turn as they move 16:18 wow 16:18 Sounds like ass. 16:18 not 100% sure about that though 16:18 also fireball always attacks the player, but it looks like it can be selected for monster vs monster combat 16:18 so a monster can 'target' another monster with fireball but really it will fireball the hero 16:19 so conflict wouldn't help you mean? 16:20 yeah if you use conflict and a monster casts fireball "at another monster", it looks like it would still end up hitting you 16:21 it seems like the vanilla monster spell categories are basically "attack beam spells", "up-close attack spells", and "non-attack spells that can be used anywhere" 16:22 and these spells got shoehorned into "non-attack spells that can be used anywhere" so that they can be used at a distance, but it causes some other screwy things to happen 16:22 it really calls for another category of "non-beam distant attack spells" i guess 16:23 ooof 16:23 k2 for now I think will work as a band-aid to prevent most fireballing during prayer https://termbin.com/z76t 16:24 ok 16:24 honestly it has clearly worked okay so far, I was just surprised when I dug into it to see how weird it got lol 16:25 yeah this comes from my early days of working on evilhack 16:25 just grab stuff from spork/grunt and assume it all works fine hah 16:26 I've yet to be fireballed during prayer, suppose that's a plus 16:26 I just get fucking stunlocked to death half the time 16:28 has it worked fine or is mobileuser et al just so good that they were unphased by it 16:28 Oh, getting fireballed during prayer has been complained about in the past :-) 16:29 But I am so risk averse that I think I rely less on prayer 16:29 maybe the gods in evilhack just lack fireball insurance 16:30 i dont remember any complaint about fireballed while praying in the past. it never made it onto the bug tracker 16:30 I am pretty sure rebatela and maybe arahael have mentioned it 16:30 maybe if K2 forgets something it gets erased from history 16:30 K2 can you please forget about jorts 16:31 wtf are jorts :b 16:31 There are definitely a whole slew of ways you can die whilst successfully praying. It's quite annoying. 16:31 they're shorts made of jeans :P 16:32 K2 please forget about jorts 16:32 ... no 16:32 K2: Please forget about jorts. 16:32 what about daisy duke? 16:32 ah... 16:32 yeah 16:32 you want that to go away? 16:32 and you think i'm evil 16:32 the young uns don't know... 16:32 no they do not 16:33 sorry! 16:33 jorts on men keeps going in and out of fashion 16:33 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Duke 16:33 is it worth it just to keep your lewd memories 16:33 K2 please forget about jorts on men specifically 16:33 but what am i supposed to wear to work then? 16:33 haha! 16:33 c'mon! 16:34 :P 16:34 anyway, arahael just confirmed! 16:34 I dunno, but I find that jorts on girls is usually ugly, too. :( Particularly as the fashion here is to have them so short that the butt cheeks are sometimes visible, *and* the insides of the pockets are jangling out. It's... Weird. 16:34 https://i0.wp.com/f3southwake.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/m4l.jpg?resize=251%2C201 16:34 'murica 16:35 thanks for sharing that pic of u K2 16:35 cursed image 16:35 hahahah 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible sluggoman's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:14164 16:35 Eh, seen worse. 16:36 arahael 16:36 isn't wrong though. 16:36 it depends 16:36 for a moment there I thought you'd just laid down a sick burn about arahael 16:36 lol 16:36 beauty is in the eye of the beholder 16:36 Anyway, solved the "whose bones are these" problem, now to make sure most of the contents haven't been made off with 16:37 Most pressing is making sure the coaligned priest doesn't fucking die 16:38 K2 did you check out merging 3.7? does it look as painful as you thought? 16:38 time to pick up the ice queen. qt i'll do that quick band aid patch soon 16:38 amateurhour no ihavent yet 16:38 oh, seeya later! 16:38 i will though 16:38 back soon 16:38 bye 16:39 :) 16:39 Later 16:39 Oh wow apparently this minetown fucking sucked 16:39 Only seeing Izchak so far 16:40 Anyway hat-tipping should totally be a thing in evil 16:40 on that note 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 353 points, T:1460, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt 16:47 I am also learning a lot about ettin today 16:48 "In FOR7: Giantcraft, a Realms-specific origin story for the ettin is given. The greater giant god Annam All-Father married a lesser demigoddess who manifested as a great mountain on the edge of the Cold Lands. Their sons founded the dynasties of the giant races, including the twisted brood of Annam's two-headed son, Arno/Julian." 16:51 not a single mention of Hexen in this page, 2/10 16:53 ...ew. 16:53 There is literally only Izchak here. 16:53 This fucking sucks. 16:57 I had a quick game in vanilla. So easy, so boring. I wacked a floating eye after hallucinating, but it would've been a boring game! 16:57 * arahael very much enjoys the challenge in Evil. 16:57 Neh, I still find vanilla interesting 16:58 particularly with the recent changes 17:01 yeah? 17:04 Variants are just addictive is all 17:10 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:11 indeed they are! 17:18 NO YOU STUPID GIANT-SIZED ASSHOLE 17:18 I NEEDED THAT DOOR 17:18 ugh... 17:19 it'll be their fault if my jabberwock just waddles in and offs that priest now 17:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (platinum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:34 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zz] 17:34 K2: EPI: consider adding nickserv as a monster, perhaps for april fools day (every year). 17:37 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4284 17:37 -!- Guest4284 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:18 Well accidentally killed a shopkeep by letting my jabber near them 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Ith Mal Una), 20918 points, T:9581, poisoned by a stone orcish arrow 18:19 interestingly they had a broadsword 18:19 p. much every one I've seen up to this point had a staff 18:22 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8549 18:22 -!- Guest8549 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 18:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:25 commit made just not pushed yet 18:27 Forge isn't working to repair like it was before 18:27 Luck must've timed out, naturally 18:28 Heading down to the altar anyway, got a bunch of shit to beatitude-test 18:28 Also commit made for what o: 18:28 The fireball thing? 18:43 yeah 18:43 Ah 18:45 u - a dragonhide sling 18:45 is that any use for me as an infidel? 18:45 maybe i should sell it 18:47 Slings are still mostly useless in evil unfortunately 18:47 probably less so than in vanilla but it doesn't factor in most of my use cases 18:47 and dragonhide stuff you can't use is great vendor fodder 18:52 It's annoying that my best runs in evilhack were valks half the time 18:55 sling could be very useful for a priest as their ranged attack options are limited 19:03 Yeah but the aklys exists and is goated 19:06 Also giant priests get boulders 19:06 not all priests are giants... 19:06 that's their problem :P 19:06 i got a smoky potion wish! 19:06 gop cant be dragonhide, right 19:06 oo 19:06 Uh nope 19:07 Not that I know of 19:07 !whereis NetSysFire 19:07 Umbire: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [evil]: (Inf Ith Fem Una) T:2882 The Gnomish Mines level: 5 (with Amulet) 19:07 stone/bone GoP as usual 19:07 since you're gonna be casting a fair bit 19:07 feature request: dont display (with amulet) if its an infidel 19:07 but display (with imbued idol) instead 19:07 Actually wait, what happens to your casting if you successfully return the Amulet 19:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "cursed greased fixed +3 stone gauntlets of power", on T:4222 19:08 Also it's useful because you'll get agents before long 19:08 got the +3 19:08 :D 19:08 champion of Brigit, wearing some light armor 19:08 well just in time i guess 19:08 if an objects base material is any kind of metal, you cant wish it up as dragonhide 19:08 it wont spawn naturally that way either 19:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3828 points, T:4261, killed by a champion of Brigit 19:09 that was unfair 19:09 rip me 19:09 :/ 19:10 That's so fucking stupid 19:10 !lastgame NetSysFire 19:10 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1630622554.evil.html 19:10 what is 19:10 champions sometimes spawn so early 19:10 that's the nature of playing infidel 19:10 yeah but *that* early? 19:10 as Tomsod intended 19:10 @e?champion 19:10 champion (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 19:11 well difficulty 6 19:11 i dunno 19:11 @e?agent 19:11 agent (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal | Alignment: -7 | Flags: omnivore, teleports, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 19:11 I'm more miffed about the earliness than anything 19:11 yeah 19:11 in the future you'll probably want to drain life them ASAP 19:12 and cut and run when all else fails 19:12 interestingly they don't follow like agents 19:12 drain life uses like 20 pw 19:12 Still probably worth it for the easier kill 19:13 i dont know, psionic wave seems stronger 19:13 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel#Quest 19:14 It can confuse, yeah 19:14 also only costs 5 pw 19:14 Either way, you'll want to keep your distance much as possible 19:15 imho, champions should have their difficulty increased a tiny bit so they spawn on later floors, like 7 or 8 instead of 6 19:15 thats the second time i got a champion that early 19:15 Granted you're in the mines 19:16 But like, the second floor of said mines 19:16 yes 19:16 i was on dlvl 5 19:17 I still have to figure out my approach for future Inf runs 19:18 especially if I get shafted of an altar in the main branch 19:18 For now tho lemme focus on this Valk and Soko 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Ith Mal Una) became literate by engraving "Elbereth!", on T:4032 19:19 Someone's being cheeky I see 19:21 lol additional punctuation doesn't foil the parser 19:23 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://git.io/JEh0r 19:23 [EvilHack] k21971 898766b - Fix: prevent various non-directional monster attack spells from being cast while player is invulnerable. 19:23 [EvilHack] k21971 47d2d3d - Tweak wizard spell skill levels. 19:25 lemme see this second one 19:26 hmm what high level clerical spells ARE there now 19:26 turn undead 19:27 still lv6? 19:27 yeah 19:27 odd, thought you'd lower it at least a bit 19:27 wizard should never be able to excel at clerical/priest spells. that's a priests domain 19:27 Not complaining about that 19:27 surprised I didnt change this sooner 19:27 Just curious about the spell 19:28 like did you make it more powerful or 19:28 make what more powerful 19:28 turn undead? 19:28 Yeah 19:29 its untouched from vanilla 19:29 mostly curious as to why it's still level 6 19:29 ah 19:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Spellbooks see the bottom part 19:30 YANI: make drain life give you a minor heal or even increase your max hp by one if its full, depending on your luck and perhaps also skill 19:30 It'd be primarily skill dependent I'd think 19:42 But yeah I like the idea 19:42 Could also probably make it chaotic/unaligned-exclusive 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Ith Mal Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a stone crude spear on an altar, on T:6197 19:46 Started a new game as a monk, this time, adn the first thing I find? crystal plate mail on dlvl 1. :( 19:46 I should've been a wizard! 19:47 !whereis arahael 19:47