00:34 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest9427 00:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:35 -!- Guest9427 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1222 points, T:2493, killed by a gnomish wizard 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 1908 points, T:4379, killed by a mountain dwarf 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 1347 points, T:1498, killed by a killer bee 02:11 alright this is really vague but i have the feeling that zombie/diseased corpses multiply 02:14 They don't, it's just variant paranoia 02:14 Evil zombies tend to spawn in groups 02:14 keep in mind anything they kill directly or via illness will also turn 02:15 but i vanquished all of them and a new one spawns right on top of one of the dead ones and the other corpse stays 02:15 this is so weird 02:15 tty? 02:16 no, this is why i said its really vague since sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt but i have the feeling its somehow wrong 02:16 so i cant reproduce it reliably 02:17 maybe the zombies drop corpses of themselves, hah 02:17 wut, i think it just happened again 02:18 current run, i am on T:2959, just see like the last 50 turns or so and the one kobold zombie in the hallway right below the big, u shaped room 02:19 i think its just new zombies spawning? idk 02:24 Probably 02:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3954 points, T:4452, killed by a giant ant 02:27 go team a 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:08 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:53812 03:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3936 points, T:4641, killed by a jaguar 04:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloth oilskin elven helm of drain resistance", on T:76884 04:15 did that work? 04:16 fingers crossed 04:16 I was expecting "oilskin cloth elven helm", I hope the order doesn't matter 04:17 the wish parser is really janky for oilskin stuff so I don't know... 04:18 the object is "cloth elven helm" and then you apply a property 04:18 so I'm not sure if cloth oilskin elven helm works... 04:21 zombies cant go extinct right? 04:25 I don't know... 04:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5297 points, T:4637, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse, while praying 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:56176 06:17 Does the material of one's weapon make any difference? 06:18 Eg, should I use silver daggers or mithril daggers? (for regular monsters) 06:18 Obviously specific races have their aversions. 06:52 arahael https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Object_materials 06:53 looks like mthril has a +2 damage bonus 06:53 Oh, wow. Nice. 06:53 So I should definitely use it. 07:49 at least i died to masterkaen after being deathdropped dragonbane by a newt? 07:49 level teleported to his lair or whatver the fuck it's called 07:51 the funny thing is that i had already found a level teleporter in that joke of a quest, and thought about how bad it was (no mr) if i hit a trap like that. i was all worried about polymorph 08:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 34467 points, T:20689, killed by an exploding wand 08:26 Bah 08:26 I got cocky. 08:26 doh 08:31 Was a really good game, too. But I was deliberately blind, because this was the nymph level and I wanted to keep track of them. Then I walked into an energy vortex. 08:33 :( 08:33 new monster - newt vortex 08:41 Newt vortex? 08:44 it can bite six times per turn! 08:46 shark vortex 08:46 sharknado 08:46 (w/ laser beams on their friggin heads) 08:56 https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/blob/master/dat/bogusmon.txt#L666 08:57 yay 08:58 oh "sharknado" is also in there 09:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a dwarven priest corpse on an altar of Ptah, on T:6698 10:00 hah 10:01 i bet Moloch liked that 10:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 22428 points, T:7979, killed by Mr. Patjitan; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2077 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:3832 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3662 points, T:4135, zombified by a gnome zombie 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 202 points, T:483, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 669 points, T:1709, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 693 points, T:2710, zombified by an orc zombie, while fainted from lack of food 11:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:57 elenmirie will ascend the chaotic elven monk....not me 11:57 elf is too much 12:01 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2528 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical silver oblong amulet on an altar, on T:3297 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2435 points, T:3344, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3106 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1770 points, T:1993, killed by a gold golem 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2185 points, T:3202, killed by a giant watchman 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 439 points, T:918, killed by a gnome zombie 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 74 points, T:649, killed by a small mimic 13:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) stole 7938 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Upernavik's general store, on T:903 13:23 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:25 K2: this looks kind of weird https://0x0.st/-vjG.mp4 13:26 why you gotta show me a pic of my face?? 13:26 so mean 13:26 trolled 13:26 :P 13:26 but yeah on serious note yes that is odd hah 13:27 it is the dark lamp thing in case that wasnt clear 13:27 but since the squares immediately adjacent to you are always 'bright' it looks kind of weird 13:28 yup i understood what i was looking at 13:28 this begs the question, should immediately adjacent squares show as lit? 13:28 they prob should 13:28 in total darkness you can only see what's right next to you 13:29 blind is 'cant see anything' 13:29 yeah true 13:29 but shouldnt total darkness = being blind? 13:29 in nethack land no 13:30 but these are important questions we should all ponder 13:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4980 points, T:2815, killed by a Green-elf 13:50 K2: https://0x0.st/-vjR.mp4 13:51 hah cool 13:51 darkness grenade 13:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:4269 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4857 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8782 points, T:4871, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2637 points, T:4971, killed by a hobbit zombie 14:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2048 points, T:3475, killed by a bone crossbow bolt 15:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 15:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 516 points, T:1296, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:22 K2: if you're carrying both a normal light source and a dark lamp, what should the result be? 15:22 should a dark lamp override a normal lamp, or vice-versa? 15:23 hmm 15:23 other sources of darkness can be overridden by a normal lamp but obviously they are a bit different 15:23 I could be completely wrong, but don't squares have a notion of whether they're lit/unlit external to lightsources? 15:24 yeah they do amateurhour 15:24 they could cancel out and just use the ambient light (the light value that that square already has) 15:24 how does this sound - cursed magic lamp gives off darkness: uncursed magic lamp/normal lamp, darkness wins. blessed magic lamp/gold dragon scales worn/sunsword, those win 15:24 or is that too complicated 15:24 t 15:24 or what amateurhour said 15:24 not really feasible, at the point where you are determining how the light works, you just have the values of "this square is lit by a normal lamp" and "this square is 'lit' by a dark lamp" 15:25 by that time you can't tell what the source is 15:25 to keep it simple, light should prob win 15:25 what are you leaning towards qt 15:34 check this out when you have a minute and see what you think https://termbin.com/sva2 15:36 this has magical darkness override all light, even from other light sources you are carrying, but it's just that way because it's the way i happened to do it originally lol 15:39 is TEMP_LIT from sweeping through lightsources and marking squares it would affect? 15:41 I guess you probably wouldn't want to just check both bits to have them cancel out as then someone would want 2 dark sources to win over 1 light source 15:43 yeah it iterates through all the light sources and marks the squares they affect in do_light_sources(light.c) 15:44 then in vision.c it decides whether you can see the square based on the bits that were added there, basically 15:49 non-magical light < magical darkness < magical light? 15:52 well that just sounds like it's getting into dnh light levels territory :P 15:55 if you asked me I would have called this a smop 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 bone arrows on an altar, on T:3775 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2755 points, T:4111, killed by a giant mosquito 16:15 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 16:19 no one asked you aosdict :P 16:19 sorry qt had to step away for a bit. damn work 16:20 >:( 16:20 /quit 16:20 aww 16:20 :P 16:20 heheh 16:20 damn this looks... a lot less complicated than dnethack's method 16:21 but was probably a bear to figure out. i see where i screwed up... 16:22 Umbire the way qt describes it, magical darkness > any light source 16:22 which is cool 16:22 Right 16:23 What I said is what felt most logical to me, but is probably much more of an ask programming-wise 16:24 keeping something like this simple is for the best probably 16:24 dnh used to be plagued with light source issues 16:27 qt this looks really neat. will test it here in a bit 16:32 hah this is so cool 16:32 and it doesnt break saves \o/ 16:39 qt nice job, thanks 16:40 wont do anything just yet with it, in case there's more you think should be done or want to do 16:41 will monsters ever use lamps? 16:41 huh... good question 16:41 i've never really thought of that 16:41 i know sometimes gnomes have half-used lit candles but idk if they light them or whether they're generated that way 16:41 i don't see it in a brief glance at muse.c 16:42 i think they generate lit. i cant recall ever seeing an intelligence monster ever lighting a candle 16:42 i know they dont mess with lamps 16:42 *intelligent 16:42 intelligence monster lol 16:42 yeah neither can I, I guess it's not a problem then 16:42 Yendorian Bureau of Investigation 16:46 would be kind of cool... but then what wouldnt be cool is getting a lamp off of a monster and finding it's already used up 16:47 Granted that'd only be a problem in a place you already needed a lamp to begin with 16:47 And you'd see said monster with a lamp well in advance given the light radius 16:48 this is huge though, this opens up some cool things when it's time to start working on drow 16:48 Ye 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1048 points, T:2876, killed by a Woodland-elf 17:03 hmm i wonder how the dark lamp thing works when you curse a magic lamp which is already lit 17:03 or when a monster spellcaster does it etc 17:07 similarly what happens if you uncurse your magic lamp when it's already lit? 17:07 hopefully all those things should work already but it depends on when light sources are recalculated i guess 17:27 what will cursed sunsword do? 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 195 points, T:601, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:51 the only thing that produces darkness like that in the patch rn is a cursed magic lamp 17:53 will prob leave sunsword alone for now 17:53 in the future i could see an evil artifact that gives off darkness 17:54 if you curse the sun it doesn't stop shining 17:54 or shadow dragon scale mail, if such a thing is ever made 17:56 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3318 18:06 cursed magic lamp lit, read blessed croll of remove curse, lamp switches from darkness to light 18:06 *scroll 18:07 uncursed lit magic lamp dipped into unholy water, switches to darkness 18:07 \o/ 18:08 throwing a lit cursed magic lamp across a large room looks awesome hahah 18:09 (room is already lit) 18:10 can't wait for the grue patch 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4281 18:14 dishes time, yay.... 18:21 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1527 18:21 -!- Guest1527 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 18:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 461 points, T:1759, killed by a rabid dog 18:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:45 K2: did you get cursed magic lamps working the way you described? 18:47 oh, btw, any reason I wouldn't be regaining HP naturally as a gnome? 18:48 oh, votd magic 18:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3199 points, T:5093, killed by a hobbit zombie 18:53 do you see the enchantment of unidentified items? i suspect i wear an item enchanted with searching 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:44019 18:54 That's an object property 18:54 For armor you have to identify it 18:54 either via the scroll or spell 18:54 or blessed magic detection 18:55 Weapons tend to make their object property known when you use them 19:02 !lastgame NetSysFire 19:02 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1630536650.evil.html 19:02 p - an uncursed +0 stone orcish helm of searching (being worn) i knew it 19:02 bouquet_ qt did yeah 19:02 he's a genius 19:02 GENUS 19:02 Object properties tend to add like 50 cost to an items base price 19:03 That I recall anyway 19:03 May depend on the property too, I think the Evilhack page has something on that? 19:16 you should buy him a bouquet of flowers 19:16 I'm biased, though 19:19 what's a good wizard wish for the gnome who has everything (except MKoT)? are there some hidden gems for chaotic wizards I should consider? 19:20 heh "invisible hobbit wizard called Bilbo the Wizard" 19:21 :) 19:28 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3001 19:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:28 I guess he slit gandolf's throat and stole his robe and wizard hat. 19:28 bilbo, "I put on my robe and wizard hat..." 19:31 oh sorry bouquet_ 19:31 what all do you have 19:31 -!- Guest3001 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:32 regular ascension kit stuff. No dragonhide. 19:33 AC is -40 already, though. 19:33 Then wish up some dragonhide! 19:33 /hj 19:33 have drain res? 19:33 oh, good point! I'll wish up some of that 19:33 dragonhide tshirt of drain res is popular 19:33 ^ 19:36 and artifact wishing probability is the same as vanilla? I have 3 already identified so it's 50/50 for MKoT, right? 19:37 is there another worthy chaotic artifact I should consider? 19:37 The Ring of P'hul looks amazeballs 19:38 disease resist AND MR?! I'd be crazy to not wish for it 19:38 Wait you're chaotic? 19:38 I thought you were a gnome 19:38 !whereis bouquet 19:38 NetSysFire: bouquet is not playing. 19:39 Also the probabilities are quite different from vanilla iirc 19:39 in evilhack gnome wizards can be chaotic 19:40 all the benefits of the gnomish physique with none of the drawbacks of neutral alignment. 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "The Ring of P'hul", on T:45544 19:42 woo! 19:42 yeah artifact wishing rules are the same as in vanilla. some artifacts dont count towards the number generated though 19:42 o 19:42 you get the owner? 19:42 nope 19:42 you lucky sob 19:43 not blessed greased and fixed? 19:43 ya, I was ready to bounce into a portal if I did 19:43 I feel like you could take Pelias anyway, but gj regardless 19:44 found a coaligned unicorn in votd and fed it gems for a while. I expect my luck was maxed which likely helped 19:44 Wait does Luck affect the owner appearing? 19:46 no 19:58 sometimes pelias comes with a potion of speed, which he immediately quaffs. 20:18 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JEbpB 20:18 [EvilHack] k21971 f1f2dc7 - Cursed magic lamps give off darkness instead of light. 20:22 yey 20:29 can I wish up dragon hide hawaiian shirt? Or only regular t-shirt? 20:29 pretty sure hawaiian shirt can also be dragonhide 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45821 20:52 what is this "shimmering globe" that I've seen liches carry? "it reflects from the invisible lich's shimmering globe!" 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:46284 20:54 Oh, liches can cast the reflection monster spell 20:55 oooohhhh... I was picturing a lich holding a snow globe 20:55 the lich moans... "Rosebud..." 21:00 yeah I agree that it sounds like the lich is carrying a shimmering globe 21:00 "it reflects from the shimmering globe around the lich"? 21:03 that would be more clear. 21:07 hmm mon_reflects is given various messages like "But it reflects from %s %s!" and "It bounces off %s %s." and "The gaze is reflected away by %s %s." 21:08 and then it typically fills in the blanks with s_suffix(mon_nam(mon)) and "shield" or "armor" or whatever 21:08 maybe you could change it to pline(str, "the shimmering globe around", mon_nam(mon)) but you'd have to look at it carefully to make sure it doesn't screw up any messages that are assuming the first blank will be s_suffix(mon_nam(mon)) 21:10 like mon_reflects(mtmp, "It careens off %s hastily-raised %s.") or something 21:11 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1103 21:11 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:12 -!- Guest1103 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13 you could also change "shimmering globe" to "shimmering aura" or something else that is a bit clearer even with the "X's Y" format 21:13 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7564 21:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:16 -!- Guest7564 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:21 aura sounds right 21:22 that's probably the best option given how mon_reflects is set up 21:25 I attempted to tame a frost giant while it's riding a woolly mammoth. I got a tame giant but not sure about the mammoth. Side effect is he can't follow me up/down stairs 21:31 Because the steed can't 21:31 Also never considered the effect of taming on mounted monsters 21:34 !who 21:34 K2: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:38 qt thanks for the cursed magic lamp darkness bit. it's really awesome 21:38 you're really awesome 21:38 no you are 21:39 it seems we are at an impasse here 21:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7VFDtPffBk 21:39 lol 21:40 that movie is hilarious btw 21:40 both of them 21:40 alright off to bed, cya 21:41 night 22:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:29 !tell K2 uhitm.c:1529 -- "It's stomach" should be "Its stomach" (or you could use mhis) 22:29 No worries, qt, I've got this! 22:34 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt", on T:48979 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:48983 23:01 anyone need a dragonhide hawaiian shirt? I have a spare 23:02 lol 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:49145 23:24 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26 bouquet_: Just kindly slip it into the pearwood chest. kthks. 23:58 love to lose 3 Int while at -1 AC