00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8736 00:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 6532 points, T:8856, killed by a giant mummy 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:20533 00:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:21727 00:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 01:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1528 points, T:3151, killed by a dwarf lady 02:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1023 points, T:2209, quit 02:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 569 points, T:1622, killed by a bolt of cold 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:43 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of repair armor", on T:73386 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Gia Mal Una) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fixed Dragonbane", on T:40593 05:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:73852 06:29 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1353 points, T:1863, zombified by a gnome zombie, while praying 08:03 woo go elenmirie 08:42 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM] 08:43 WHOA a newt just death dropped Dragonbane! 08:44 ... wat? 08:44 lol 08:44 NERF NEWTS 08:45 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 08:47 !whereis rebatela 08:47 K2: [hdf-eu] rebatela [evil]: (Mon Gia Mal Neu) T:15840 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 08:48 damn rebatela. if you die... 08:48 hehe it is beyond lucky 08:48 i had a magic lamp and got you freed me so it's make up for that i suppose 08:53 i still don't have magic resistance though so dying is very possible 08:53 i could do quest, but don't really have a way of killing kaen 08:57 got sleep or a polykit? either one of those is probably enough 09:07 no poly. have sleep but i'm forgetting it and lost the book 09:07 if i had poly i'd poly for amulet of mr. maybe i'll find it. only on dl 10 09:10 I was thinking you could turn into a black dragon and just disintegrate kaen 09:11 wand of disintegration when 09:13 that's how the last slex game on hardfought ended :P 09:13 i was about to ask what variants had that maybe 09:13 slash'em or dnh? 09:14 neither of those have it 09:14 slashthem doesn't either I think 09:14 so just slex 09:15 wand/spell of disintegration would be way way too OP. very unbalancing 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18832 09:16 especially when monsters have it 09:19 yeah i've done the black dragon thing in vanilla for sure 09:19 i don't have any sort of poly (other than triggering traps without mr...) 09:34 losing that sleep spell is going to come back to haunt me. i can feel it 09:35 i even found a replacement spelbook but it got blanked when i fell in the water 09:38 any wands of sleep instead? 09:39 oh im not even talking about kaen. I just mean in general it can be a lifesaver 09:43 i had a sleep wand. shocking sphere just destroyed it 09:45 typical 09:55 reason to not do the quest is it creates another artifact and i would love to wish for Eota ideally 09:55 eventually... 09:56 if only there was xnh or dnh style artiwishing rules 09:59 yeah like that dragonbane was a death drop! I didn't want that crap. It shouldn't count ;) 10:00 oh woe is me I have found random dragonbane early on wah wah ;) 10:00 finding poly wouldl be the best right now. I have poly control ring and a few amulets to poly for mr. Plus I haven't even id'd enchant armor 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:24860 10:17 aosdict lol 10:19 just don't play variants that have an artifact wishing limit 10:20 you have to stay true to your convictions and draw the line somehwere! 10:23 what does unnethack do, if anything? 10:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25 as there are so few wishes anyway, the artifact wishing limit has been removed 10:26 if you wanna blow your wishes on useless artifacts, be my guest 10:26 that makes sense 10:27 depending when you want to make the wish, I would first go to the blackmarket. the chances are high that you find there something interesting, even some artifacts. but probably not the one you want :) 10:28 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 10:34 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:01 opening up artifact wish restrictions like that, might as well let the player choose from a list of artifacts they wanna start with at the beginning of each game. ultraeasybabyhack mode 11:02 ???? 11:02 !!!! 11:02 ^^^^ 11:03 you know what would be cool? a version of the blackmarket that's already been ransacked/cleaned out. and one-eyed sam is pissed off 11:03 ™™™™ 11:03 that sounds like the opposite of cool 11:03 nah. she'd be pissed off not at you but some past player that did it 11:03 ah yes the orctown of black market variants 11:04 so she asks to join you and she's like a companion that hates all npc's 11:04 boop 11:04 even if she's not hostile to the player, "blackmarket but without its loot" is blah 11:04 YASI: orcacle, a variant of the oracle level where the oracle died to orcs 11:04 hah 11:05 aosdict: it could be actually fairly legit if the loot gets scattered around the dungeon orctown style 11:05 thats a lot of loot 11:05 <--- only good ideas 11:06 orcorcus town: Orcus has been killed by orcs 11:06 hah 11:06 that's brilliant 11:06 and one of them is running around with his wand 11:06 lol 11:06 going *boop* 11:07 https://giphy.com/gifs/nose-boop-oeYpYm0BOEDWo 11:09 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 11:14 honestly I think the most insulting thing about orctown blackmarket is that one-eyed sam can be defeated by a few paltry orcs 11:15 maybe they trapped them with boulders and killed the pets and walked out 11:16 crooked kops looked the other way 11:16 then again I guess the kops were always looking the other way 11:17 maybe the orcs had Dagul with them 11:18 you may be thinking to yourself 'yeah that little punk 5 yr old kid thinks he can take me, lets go' but if he shows up with 20 of his friends, you might be in trouble 11:18 sorcoban, the orcs already solved all the puzzles and yoinked the prize 11:18 hah 11:21 K2: yes this is my exact though process whenever I see a 5 year old 11:21 *thought 11:25 its an analogy 11:25 maybe one-eyed sam thought she could take on all those weak orcs 11:25 but there were a lot of them 11:26 1ES hunting the orcs that ransacked the shop. 11:26 the orcs get lots of loot from the floor 11:27 have fun with all the orcs wearing amulets of life saving and quaffing potions of healing :) 11:27 haha that would be turboannoying 11:27 orc finds vorpal blade in shop 11:27 or wand of death 11:27 hah wand of wishing muhahah 11:28 at least it's not grunt, where vorpal weapons ahoy 11:28 omg 11:28 that along makes the samurai quest very dangerous 11:28 *alone 11:28 vorpal/thirsty weapons 11:28 it's worse than Vorpal Blade, because that at least is prominent when someone wields it and swings it at you 11:29 vorpal regular weapons have the same exact power but are unobtrusive 11:29 yup, you dont know til you die from it 11:29 reason i didnt make vorpal an obj property in evilhack 11:29 hey who remembers the vorpal exploit 11:29 I only read about it 11:29 * K2 raises his hand 11:30 so fun 11:30 think it was fixed before I'd even started playing 11:30 is it still in grunthack? 11:30 the wiki suggests it is 11:30 don't think so 11:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4934 points, T:2786, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 11:30 > Once discovered, this bug was also found to exist in all NetHack variants, including SLASH'EM. In GruntHack, the bug works the same way with weapons that have the vorpal object property. 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by Orcus), on T:76555 11:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:43 was gonna watch his game, he logged 11:50 i think he's screwed 11:50 watched last ttyrec 11:51 he's down to 20 something hp, 49 max 11:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1532 points, T:2050, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 12:24 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:25 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 12:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una), 488 points, T:1309, killed by a giant bat, while dragging an iron ball 12:38 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5470 12:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:40 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7541 12:40 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:42 -!- Guest5470 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:44 -!- Guest7541 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a splash of acid), on T:77246 13:44 looks like sluggoman got away from orcus 13:52 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1874971 points, T:78056, killed by a splash of acid 13:56 F 13:58 !lastgame sluggoman 13:58 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sluggoman/evilhack/dumplog/1628115227.evil.html 14:12 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 14:30 hah... there's been over 600 commits to version 0.7.0 alone 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a Green-elf), on T:4129 15:00 46hp? how'd that happen 15:00 tried to melee orcus 15:00 as a wizard 15:01 Oh I didn't see orcus on the kill list, shoulda figured 15:01 I miss any good especially nasty commits while I was away? 15:01 i dont think so :) 15:02 derp I coulda just read like one page back in the log to see the orcus death aversion 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Gia Fem Una), 8260 points, T:5976, killed by an elven watchman 15:02 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 15:11 K2: No murder penalties for Infidels, right? 15:12 In fact lemme... 15:12 there shouldnt be 15:13 its entirely possible we missed one 15:14 Trying to adjust my early approach, didn't find any altars too quickly in the last game so decided to blitz Minetown 15:14 weighing my options in case I do that again 15:14 exception being your pet 15:14 you arent penalized nearly as much for killing you pet as other roles 15:14 but there's still a penalty 15:16 Right 15:23 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:33 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 15:45 heya qt 15:45 hey 15:45 Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack 15:46 thanks Hecubus 15:46 NOT 15:46 whats new 15:46 besides showing scorn to Hecubus 15:48 not much 15:50 .2 15:50 argh 16:09 K2: I just found an amulet of reflection on the ground too 16:09 in that game where I got the boh wish 16:09 oh my 16:09 this is definitely leading to a really embarrassing death 16:10 earlier today, rebatela had a newt death drop dragonbane 16:11 "The giant watchman smashes down a door." 16:12 this seems very rude but on the other hand irl police do smash down a lot of doors for silly reasons 16:16 plus the yendorian govt is notorious for paying low wages 16:24 lol i found a wand of death too 16:24 such good rng this game. i am doomed for sure 16:31 good lord 16:31 if you lose this game, I will make fun of you relentlessly 16:31 you'll prob find a blessed spellbook of identify next 16:31 oh you better believe I will lose it 16:32 don't underestimate my ability to lose 16:32 hahah 16:35 did i mention i started with a ring of slow digestion, too 16:36 unbelievable 16:36 we're in the twilight zone 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed Umbire's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:4445 16:37 qt: Gnome corpse, dwarf lady nearby? 16:37 yeah 16:37 well, I think so, I don't see a corpse actually 16:37 yes a gnome convict 16:38 Right 16:38 Didn't really have much there but enjoy the free shirt I guess? 16:55 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 16:55 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:00 i found 2 magic lamps so far lol 17:00 this game is insane 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:27654 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Gia Mal Una), 420 points, T:1142, killed by a hobbit 17:21 just found another magic lamp 17:22 k2 did you add something like `if (!strcmp(plname, "qt")) make_game_easier();` 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 9205 points, T:10683, killed by a jaguar 17:24 I smell another under the table zorkmid exchange 17:33 why am I not seeing early qt wishes? 17:33 i only made one wish, I haven't used all these magic lamps yet 17:33 and it was before my minturncount of 1000 17:33 amazing! 17:33 i guess I should use one of the lamps to get good armor 17:34 what are you playing? 17:34 Wiz Ith 17:34 hmmm 17:35 Bone GoP if I recall 17:35 I think he has those already... 17:36 No that was the first wish I mean 17:36 yeah :-) 17:36 For this one I'd go for a source of reflection next personally, problem 17:36 i found an amulet of reflection on the ground 17:36 is I'd also want AC and--- 17:36 o 17:36 baller 17:36 is The Dark One 100% MR or can I sneak up and zap death to one shot him still? 17:36 dragonhide speed boots 17:36 ^ 17:37 oh that sounds like a good idea 17:37 I think the dark one wears MR cloak bouquet 17:37 lol 17:37 the djinni didn't give me a wish 17:37 rude 17:37 the first time the RNG has not gone my way this game 17:37 typical 17:37 bouquet in my last wizard game the dark one ate my brains 17:37 so, once again, a tough baddie requires paralysis to dispatch. 17:38 me too, mobileuser 17:38 heh 17:38 I'm wary of direct engagement. I have no ?oEarth and no =oFA 17:38 I guess I'll head south for a while and see what turns up 17:39 a spellbook of earth would be awesome. 17:41 Is that even a thing 17:42 I wish 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12269 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:15371 18:08 hmm I wished for the dragonhide speed boots, then noticed that my cloak of MR must have been destroyed at some point... 18:08 probably should have replaced my MR source instead :-O 18:09 goddamnit lol 18:10 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 18:10 ouch 18:10 any wishes left? 18:10 i do have another magic lamp 18:11 dragonhide cloak of MR 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:15710 18:11 \o/ 18:11 very glad it actually gave me the wish lol 18:12 i have to nerf qt 18:12 you should have good MR now 18:13 good luck qt! bedtime for me 18:13 goodnight 18:13 thanks 18:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:13 cya mobileuser 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3535 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 1929 points, T:1476, killed by an ancient pseudodragon 18:35 lol 18:35 just found ANOTHER magic lamp 18:36 lol 18:42 qt, leave some for the rest of us 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha), 2210 points, T:4115, killed by a wand 18:42 I haven't found a single magic lamp. 18:42 Only found a blindfold at turn 30k! 18:42 \o/ 18:43 just found a wand of speed, yay 18:46 small victories 18:56 if magicbane explodes BoH's, the if a gray dragon swallows me while I'm wielding it then the dragon should spontaneously explode. 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2108 points, T:2576, killed by a dwarf lady 19:00 a gray dragon isnt a boh 19:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:23451 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 90550 points, T:23655, suffocated by a water elemental, while praying 19:10 K2: i hate you 19:10 >:( 19:11 if I had a nickle for every time I've uttered those very words... 19:11 now I guess I know that water elementals can't be scared with a horn... 19:13 right. they're mindless 19:13 :( 19:19 hmm i wonder how I should have dealt with that situation 19:21 if I had taken out a scroll of teleportation would it have gotten wiped by the water? 19:24 I keep a wand of digging in open inventory for last ditch attempts to exit engulfing monsters 19:24 qt there may have been a chance, but it would have been small 19:25 would have been worth the effort 19:25 i will try that next time 19:25 i always die to those guys who engulf and suffocate you 19:26 we all have at some point 19:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4218 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Umbire's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:4134 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 5165 points, T:4452, burned by molten lava 19:55 qt i have something for you to have a look at if you're interested 19:55 please please no more naked pictures 19:56 i gave it best effort and broke things heh 19:56 lol 19:56 what is it? 19:56 i dont even know what to say to that 19:56 i am out of wit 19:56 not a whit of wit 19:56 ok so, most recent commit, cursed wands of light cause darkness, just like reading a cursed scroll of light 19:56 :) 19:57 that was pretty simple 19:57 yes, I encountered that in my recent game 19:57 i was surprised lol 19:57 heh 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4560 points, T:5437, killed by an elven arrow 19:57 what i'd also like to do, is have a cursed magic lamp also give off darkness 19:57 however, trying to make this happen for a portable object is not simple at all (at least not for me) 19:58 dnethack does this, not with lamps but with some other objects 19:58 but the way its implemented there, its a bit crazy, as apparently there ar ethree different levels of vision in darkness as well as light 19:58 so using it as an example, not so sure 19:59 i just want cursed magic lamp, give off darkness, same radius as regular magic lamp lit 19:59 nothing crazy 20:00 hmm 20:01 i tried a couple things using dnethack as a guide (vision.h) and it did not go well 20:03 it sounds like it might be really complicated 20:03 i figured as much 20:03 maybe even save breaking complicated 20:04 if i want to do drow race and do it right, this would help out a lot. need some sort of way to have portable darkness 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 1188 points, T:1525, killed by a ball of cold 20:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:11 mobile light sources like lamps work differently from static light sources like the result of light zap/spell 20:11 i suspect to do this you would need to rework a lot of the vision/line of sight algorithms 20:12 you also have to worry about things like interaction between "mobile darkness" and "mobile light" like what happens if you're carrying a lamp and a cursed magic lamp at the same time? 20:12 or you are carrying a cursed magic lamp and walk by a lit lamp on the floor? 20:13 right 20:13 i will look at the dnh thing when I have a chance, what are the items that do it? 20:14 sorry one sec, got my sis on the phone 20:15 no rush 20:15 i wouldn't be able to look into it right this second anyway 20:22 qt I was going by this - https://github.com/k21971/dNetHack/commit/d839e978f9b3ce1c6be6f46569b595f10e9b7ad1#diff-7675ff7d1eaea5e4a3f10c2f7dc82f18a898e21c18269ade3365cade188079a5 20:22 there's a bit more in that though than just vision 20:22 brb food 20:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 20:27 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:02 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:19 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:36899 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36901 22:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 459 points, T:1538, killed by a kitten 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Gia Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:44513 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] User (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:45411 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41242