00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 25388 points, T:16157, withered away, while praying 00:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:7926 01:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2576 points, T:3119, killed by Mr. Senna Hut; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2686 points, T:3045, poisoned by a rotted rock gnome corpse, while praying 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1735 points, T:1191, drowned in a pool of water 03:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3087 points, T:2813, killed by an orcish arrow 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9488 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 12443 points, T:9650, killed by a death ray 03:41 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #evilhack 03:44 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 8 points, T:43, killed by a fox 04:22 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 04:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4616 points, T:3635, killed by an owlbear 04:58 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 452 points, T:679, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Mr. Clonegal; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 05:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1251 points, T:1928, killed by an elven arrow 05:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4622 points, T:5071, killed by a death ray 05:40 Well, that was unfortunate. Went down the stairs to... A bones level, but the grave was on the stairs, so I wasn't able to go straight back up. 05:40 And it was the big room, with a monster wielding a wand of death. 06:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pony, on T:3466 06:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 2806 points, T:4337, killed by Mr. Gweebarra; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 07:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 9962 points, T:6817, killed by a dwarf king 07:50 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:52 !tell K2: So I defeated Kathryn, who I thought was safely in another part of the room, took off my blindfold rendering her invisible to me, and farted around with crystal chest stacking -- then apparently bumped her with my non-thirsty Sunsword, rendering her hostile again. Now she has 7500 health -- so much for pacifying her a second time. Is this intentional behavior? 07:52 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, krm26. 07:52 yup 07:52 K2: Message from krm26 at 2021-08-27 07:52 EDT: So I defeated Kathryn, who I thought was safely in another part of the room, took off my blindfold rendering her invisible to me, and farted around with crystal chest stacking -- then apparently bumped her with my non-thirsty Sunsword, rendering her hostile again. Now she has 7500 health -- so much for pacifying her a second time. Is this intentional behavior? 07:53 bumping into any invis monster you cant see that is peaceful can make them angry. that's vanilla behavior 07:53 and yeah its entirely possible to make the enchantress angry 07:54 you're gonna *not* want to stick around :) 07:54 you won't be able to pacify her anymore I think? 07:54 i dont think so 07:54 i've never tried 07:54 or can tame monster do something? 07:54 MR probably too high 07:55 maybe? but she has high monster MR 07:55 \o/ 07:55 teleport the chests away and get out... 07:56 kathryn the enchantress should grudge the priest in moloch's temple next door 07:57 or any monster that is unaligned 07:57 hmm new side quest - encounter the witch that put the curse on kathryn 08:01 Is there any particular reason you can't defeat Kathryn a second time? 08:02 yes 08:02 I would think because there is no curse on her anymore 08:03 for the pacifying bit I mean 08:04 right, once you defeat the ice queen, the quest is done 08:04 L A M E 08:04 there's no reason to try and fight the enchantress. if you anger her on accient... oh well 08:04 It is a pain in the butt kiting around an invulnerable Kathryn 08:04 Especially with my dogshit gear 08:05 But, death before missing the bag 08:05 that you decided to move around inside her throne room while not being able to see her? not the smartest move 08:05 teleported that chest away yet? 08:05 I swear she like ran as fast as she could right over in front of me, she should have been a mile away 08:06 I think you aren't raising your daughter right :-) 08:06 hah 08:06 doing just fine, thank you 08:06 Badgering an old man like that 08:06 Did it 08:11 fun fact - playing as infidel, when you defeat the ice and she transforms into the enchantress, you have exactly 100 turns to do what you're going to do before she becomes mobile/hostile 08:11 *ice queen 08:12 Ugh 08:12 Does she at least give some warning emotes 08:12 yes, there's an entire dialogue 08:12 infidel / witch that cursed her = evil 08:13 so of course she's not happy about that :) 08:13 yeah, I just don't bother to defeat Kathryn as Infidel :b 08:13 'putting the Evil in EvilHack since 2018' 08:13 zap chest, run 08:14 ooooh noooo 08:14 mobileuser you let the cat outta the bag 08:14 ? 08:14 you're zapping the chest behind the bars away? 08:14 but you let the dogs out 08:14 yeah 08:15 ah man 08:16 what's wrong with that? 08:16 nothing, but... 08:16 ugh 08:17 You can always put doors in front of the bars to stop that :-) 08:17 no, that's not the right answer hah 08:17 iron doors like in xnethack 08:17 so you know how crystal chests are supposely 'transparent' to almost all forms of magic 08:18 cant probe them, cant polymorph them 08:18 am I going to hate where this is going 08:18 :( 08:18 if they are transparent to magic, probing should be able to see inside them, duh 08:18 maybe transparent is the wrong word 08:19 probing doesn't affect the container, it tells you what is there that you can't see 08:19 immune to 08:19 brb waiting on all crystal armor pieces to grant MR 08:19 lol 08:21 there is crystal and then there is magical crystal! :b 08:21 but yeah 08:21 i feel a nerf coming 08:21 sorry :/ 08:22 hah 08:22 I'll console myself with the 100 turns 08:22 The Bag™ shouldn't be that easy to acquire 08:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4412 points, T:6921, poisoned by an orcish arrow 08:22 Bah. Stupid poison. 08:23 mobileuser 100 turns is plenty of time, esp if you're fast/very fast 08:23 true 08:23 It sucks to have a good game going, you're in soko, and going quite well, but no, you get hit by a poisoned arrow, and bam! Game over. 08:23 this is the way 08:24 arahael yeah. that's like half of my soko runs. finish it, start to leave and nasty monster spawn on top of me, dead 08:24 even in vanilla hah 08:24 This is just a mundane orc. 08:24 That happened to have a poisoned arrow. 08:25 zapping out the pegasus, that's cool 08:25 c'mere wilbur 08:25 it angers the pegasus 08:25 true, but its easy to pacify 08:25 and then I kill it 08:25 just toss a carrot at it 08:25 :b 08:25 heh 08:26 were you all aware of this? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/49c218480d8ea565188f1b504b6f8733a1659d77 08:27 bah did i forget bananas?? 08:28 eucalyptus leaves are also poisonous to humans 08:29 why does evilhack not poison you for eating them 08:29 0/10 realism 08:29 fixed in next commit 08:29 muahahah... MUAHAHAH 08:30 In my experience you can get a horse to eat anything by acting like it is delicious and forcing them to "sneak" it from you 08:30 Excellent way to pill a horse 08:30 heh 08:30 feed a horse baby chicks 08:30 they will eat those right up 08:31 (I guess the best way to pill a horse is when they have a fistula, you can drop it right in) 08:31 Mm, like video of the giant tortoise eating a tern that has been making the rounds lately 08:31 Obligate herbivore my butt 08:31 i saw that 08:32 its only a herbivore because most everything else can get away 08:35 hmm no i didnt forget banana 08:35 i see why 08:35 ok we're good 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful giant ant, on T:3103 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9386 08:37 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:38 if/when i add magical chests, they'll exhibit a lot fo the same behavior as crystal chests 08:38 *of 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1845 points, T:4449, died of starvation, while fainted 08:40 friend or fo? 08:47 if crystal chests are so great then how come there's no crystal chests 2? 08:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:11222 09:11 hahah 09:14 lots of things are perfect without a sequel 09:14 don't make crystal chests into a soulless cash cow 09:17 The Return of the Crystal Chest 09:17 The Crystal Chest Strikes Back 09:17 The Rise of Crystal Chest 09:18 :) 09:18 Top Gun 2, nov 19th 09:18 can't - wait 09:18 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:18 its like he's on queue 09:18 i mention top gun 2, qt shows up 09:19 queue two 09:19 cue 09:19 queue 09:19 Q 09:19 heh 09:20 and 2nd season of star trek: picard will see Q return 09:20 top gun Q now with 100% more conspiracy theories 09:20 lizard people 09:20 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Chest 09:21 hahah 09:21 yeah everyone hates that one 09:21 I made the mistake of rewatching that show as an adult. I loved it as a kid. 09:21 Rewatching it as an adult ruined it. :( 09:21 what show? 09:21 i recently did something like that I shouldnt have 09:21 qt: Indiana Jones and the Crystal *Skull*. 09:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:22 K2: Did it involve motion pictures? 09:22 i had seen 'ready player one' a while ago, forogt about most it. recently read the book which was good, then rewatched the movie right after. book made the movie look like shit 09:22 Ah, yeah. 09:22 do australians call movies 'shows' 09:22 So many stories are much better in books. 09:22 yup 09:23 reading 'ready player two' currently 09:23 Really, the only ones that are NOT better as books, are ones where the movie came first and then got novelized 09:23 lol is that real K2 09:23 so basically: adaptations suck 09:23 qt: I might be australian, but when it comes to the pictures, I don't use the usual lingo we have here. I call them all "movies", infuriating those who call them instead "tv shows", I say they're all "motion pictures", hence, movies! 09:23 its alright. not as good as the first but still interesting 09:23 they actually call them sɥoʍs qt but because we're on the other side of the planet it appears right to us 09:23 qt yes its real :) 09:23 arahael you watched a 2008 film as a kid?? 09:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:24 that was 13 years ago... lol 09:24 :( 09:24 they don't make refrigerators like they used to 09:24 oh dear 09:24 anything i did as a kid would have been in the 70's and 80's 09:24 amateurhour: Damn, that was that recent :D 09:25 13 years ago I was approximately 13 years younger than I am today 09:25 amateurhour: So I was... Carry the one... Wow, still 23. 09:25 just checked and the maths adds up 09:25 1 + 1 = 3 09:25 MATHS 09:25 I wasn't even married back then. 09:25 omg a brit said 'maths' 09:26 M A T H S E S 09:26 now say... cookie? 09:26 In australia we very very rarely say cookies. 09:26 no 09:27 lol 09:27 :P 09:27 * arahael hands out cookies. 09:27 Non-BUC-tested cookies. 09:27 oatmeal raisin w/ choc chips are *awesome* 09:28 do americans ever say biscuit? 09:28 yes in regards to actual biscuits 09:28 amateurhour: What americans call biscuits or cookies are very different to what australians, and I suspect, the UK, call them. 09:28 yeah I guess so 09:29 biscuits and gravy - https://images-gmi-pmc.edge-generalmills.com/5c98f531-6b8c-494a-9171-5c7743ca3ca3.jpg 09:29 So bizarre, that. 09:29 they're way awesome when you're drunk 09:29 what in the fresh heck am I looking at 09:29 And they're not biscuits, K2. 09:29 Nah, it's just some kind of mutant scone with chunky... tartare sauce, I guess? 09:29 biscuits and gravy 09:30 do you call scones biscuits???? 09:30 no, they're called scones 09:30 K2: I really hope that's savoury. 09:30 that doesn't look like gravy 09:30 is that like cream or something 09:30 https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/216391/easy-sausage-gravy-and-biscuits/ 09:30 (They don't actually taste like scones IIRC, they just look a bit like they should) 09:31 Also, fair warning for non-Americans, "grits" do, disappointingly, taste pretty well how they look. 09:31 Wow, so the gravy is literally just flour and milk? :( 09:31 if the gravy is done right and the biscuits arent bone dry, its sooooo good 09:31 yeah and sausage 09:31 is that picture they look a little bit like an undertoasted english breakfast muffin 09:32 put some tabasco sauce on that... mmm MMMM 09:32 K2: You need to try authentic sourdough, with butter. 09:32 now i'm hungry 09:32 * Pinkbeast stands by at the #hardfought "Days since we last had a conversation about black pudding" sign 09:32 really hungry 09:33 heh Pinkbeast 09:33 Pinkbeast: you haven't had good grits then 09:33 out of a box, sure they're terrible, but you can do some really nice stuff with them 09:33 grits arent my favorite, depends how they're made 09:33 yeah mine neither, but I've had some awesome ones with cheese and tomato 09:34 so what other things do you guys name incorrectly 09:34 at basic training I ate grits like my life depended on it. they purposely cut back rations, fuckers 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:13090 09:34 K2: Infact, sourdough toast, topped with lambs fry and a roux made with the dripplings left in the pan and flour and worchestire sauce. 09:34 K2: You can't beat that. 09:34 bacon I guess, you have it from the wrong part of the pig 09:35 Actualy, yes, you can. You can have lambs fry coated in flour, PLUS BACON, roux, all served over sourdough toast. 09:35 are you mocking bacon!? 09:35 american bacon yes 09:35 WAT 09:35 https://i.stack.imgur.com/NtTmW.jpg 09:36 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2564/source 09:36 K2: It's actually interesting how american bacon started, fascinating history. 09:36 now i have to look this up 09:36 teh google doesnt lie 09:39 a good friend of mine makes his thanksgiving stuffing using bacon fat/drippings 09:39 best - stuffing - ever 09:40 there's only one thing better than bacon. it's bacon wrapped in bacon 09:41 crackling is better than bacon 09:43 K2: I like proscuitto. 09:43 i do too 09:43 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 09:43 we eat that all the time in our house 09:43 proscuitto 09:43 K2: And I'd argue that european proscuitto is way better than bacon. :) 09:43 That said, there's a huge variety in bacon, it's definitely worth paying for the good stuff. 09:44 arahael: Proper bacon or crunchy American bacon? 09:44 Pinkbeast: Proper bacon, of course, though I tend to cook it so that it's slightly cripsy. 09:46 Which reminds me, I should order myself some bacon. I haven't had any meat for over a week. 09:46 I usually order about $70 worth of meat at a time, otherwise it doesn't seem worth it to have it delivered. So I do that about once every 2 or 3 weeks. 09:47 And for that week, I'm gorging on meat. :) 09:48 american bacon, like all bacon probably, is as crunchy as you decide to cook it 09:50 aosdict: But it's missing the skin. 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had a heavy war hammer entrusted to him by Set, on T:11478 09:51 there is a distressing amount of "american food" you can get from restaurants that contains bacon bits and they don't tell you. More than once I've had to spit out a mouthful of food after realizing what was in it. 09:52 yeah I'd do the same if I had surprise american bacon too 09:52 :^) 09:57 Those taste weird. 09:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:06 k2 you can just zero out 'any' before adding that inventory line to fix the wizidentify thing https://termbin.com/8sbcs 10:07 thanks 10:07 DAMMIT 10:07 lol 10:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) murdered jerry, his faithful large dog, on T:18238 10:27 "The quest artifact, the Idol, will give you MR, half spell damage and energy regeneration. Uncurse the Idol asap, otherwise hostile demons will start flying out of your backpack." this sounds kinda annoying 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:12723 10:28 I can't imagine the demons enjoy it much either 10:28 NetSysFire it is very unlikely you won't have holy water by that time 10:29 yeah but cursed infidel stuff is supposed to be good 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±7] https://git.io/JEgGx 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 344339f - Fix: crystal chests were affected by teleportation spell/wand. 10:29 why do you have bad stuff happen with that quest artifact? 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 0daceb5 - Small tweak to latest malediction. 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 5dfb653 - Fix: #wizidentify and inventory weight display. 10:29 not everything 10:29 yes sure but this is infidel specific 10:29 well, it just behaves like a figurine 10:30 NetSysFire, cursed armor/weapons yes 10:30 to try and make *every* object that's cursed behave differently for infidels would be a huge SMOP 10:31 i get that 10:31 and wouldnt be appropriate 10:31 but its the quest artifact 10:31 so? 10:31 its evil 10:31 yeah but evil is good for you 10:32 evil is evil, even to evil sometimes 10:32 otehrwise it wouldnt truly be evil 10:32 *otherwise 10:35 K2: "crystal chests are meant to be unaffected by almost all magical effects" 10:35 yup 10:35 i thought the opposite, they are unaffected by mundane things but magical things work 10:36 no 10:36 wand of opening? 10:36 what magical things don't work as usual on crystal chests? 10:36 that was never the case 10:36 poly, probing 10:36 now tele 10:36 cancelation doesnt affect it anyways 10:36 neither stone to flesh 10:37 its attuned to only a specific type of magic - locking/unlocking 10:37 oh interesting 10:37 yeah i never tried those things on it 10:38 i came up with crystal chest because of monsters using poly wands 10:38 not too uncommon to have your stash be in ,ine of fire of an asshole monster zapping polymorph at you 10:38 do any of those work on crystal armour pieces? 10:38 *line 10:38 crystal plate mail is immune to disintegration and destroy armor spell 10:39 but you can poly/cancel them :/ immersion ruined :((((( 10:39 different magic 10:41 i could make crystal plate immune to magic like cancellation and remove curse 10:41 i dont think you'd like that :) 10:41 does remove curse work on a crystal chest 10:41 qt yeah it would, but they never spawn cursed 10:42 you'd have to go out of your way to curse it, then uncurse it 10:42 then why would I want remove curse to not work on crystal plate mail? :P 10:42 YANI: cursed armor/weapons have their weight increase 10:43 or is that EPI 10:44 i really like the xnh thing where armor weight is higher if you are carrying it vs wearing it 10:45 Yeah I love that touch 10:45 ^ I don't understand that 10:45 thats from fiqhack i think 10:46 It's nice, but why would it be lighter? 10:46 it's 'easier to carry' 10:46 when you're wearing it the weight is spread out along your whole body, in the way it's designed to be used 10:46 mobileuser, the logic is, an object 'feels' less heavy if you're wearing it vs carrying in your arms 10:46 ^ 10:46 imagine wearing armor vs carrying it 10:46 right..... 10:46 makes sense to me 10:46 technically it still weighs the same, mass hasnt changed. it just feels less heavy 10:49 Yahuh. 10:51 i see it like if you have one of those big hiking backpacks, it has various straps to distribute the weight evenly, so it feels lighter to carry it on your back than to hold it in your arms 10:51 idk if armor designers deliberately did anything like that but it wouldn't surprise me at all 10:52 Gotta be an efficient murderhobo 10:54 backpacking while carrying everything in your arms would be torture 10:55 also packs don't distribute the weight so much as make sure it rests on your hips and not your shoulders. a better comparison would be to a suit of armor having its weight distributed across the body, which happens to be what we are talking about here :) 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3804 points, T:4386, choked on a wolf corpse 10:56 no wonder my spellcasting was that bad 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 121400 points, T:22863, killed by an energy vortex 11:08 when iw as active duty army, I had an asshole squad leader who wouldnt allow us to use the hip strap on our ruck sacks. so we'd be marching for miles with 100+ lbs of gear, all of that weight on your shoulders/back 11:08 what? why wouldn't he allow it 11:08 cuz he was an asshole 11:08 was he afraid your hips would become too powerful 11:09 nope 11:09 just stupid asshole 11:09 that is really dumb 11:09 you have no idea how much dumb i've witnesses throughout my military career 11:09 *witnessed 11:09 but now you have a great story to mumble thru the 50 advil you're swallowing to try to quell your lower back pain 11:10 you can learn real quick what NOT to do by observing 11:10 hah 11:10 nah not advil, diclofenac 11:11 wtf the wikipedia article on diclofenac says it can cause "psychotic reactions" 11:11 now we know what made K2 the way he is 11:11 really? 11:11 lol no way 11:11 yeah 11:12 qt it would just add to :) 11:12 Mental health side effects have been reported. These symptoms are rare, but exist in significant enough numbers to include as potential side effects. These include depression, anxiety, irritability, nightmares, and psychotic reactions. 11:12 never experienced any of that from taking it 11:12 and i'm already irritable for other reasons :P 11:13 it has killed off a lot of vultures in india too apparently 11:13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis 11:14 damn 11:15 i remember my first trip to iraq, we were all forced to take anti-malaria pills 11:15 side effects were increased anger/irritability 11:15 and no shit, it was true 11:15 i stopped taking it after the 2nd dose 11:16 it was bad 11:17 would be doing and just be angry for no reason, like wanting to throat punch someone just because 11:17 military lower enlisted = guinea pigs 11:19 were you in afghanistan or iraq k2? (or both? ) 11:19 wait were you taking hydroxychloroquine 11:19 oh scroll back. i see iraq ( knew that tho ) 11:20 aosdict yeah 11:20 hahaha 11:20 i know right? ;) 11:20 "no wonder K2 didn't get covid" 11:20 rebatela just iraq, spent about 3 yrs there total 11:20 word 11:20 aosdict nah I take horse dewormer instead 11:20 rofl 11:20 brb 11:21 if hydroxychloroquine makes you aggro then that explains so much about antivaxxers 11:28 it would add to the crazy they already have 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 36 points, T:74, killed by contaminated water 11:55