00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1788 points, T:4192, killed by a werewolf 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:79233 00:36 thanks for the tips, K2! 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:79641 02:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2628 02:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Pacra's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:2823 02:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Pacra's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3789 02:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:55699 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:20 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:26 bouquet \o/ 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:40151 08:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 827790 points, T:56621, killed by a touch of death 08:39 !lastgame 08:39 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1629891242.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1629237137.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1629537064.evil.html 08:44 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Fem Law), 38463 points, T:14300, killed by a mountain centaur 09:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5514 points, T:5856, killed by a leocrotta 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:42585 10:08 I see in the backscroll that Kathryn has claimed another victim :-( 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2450 points, T:2522, killed by a spotted jelly 10:13 yup 10:25 has anyone here witnessed this happening? I havent been able to recreate it - 'L repeatedly summon Angels and other angelic beings - this seems very weird. sometimes they summon both angels and demons and they start duking it out' 10:25 Non 10:25 I feel like that's occurred in other variants, though 10:29 maybe grep through the evilhack irc logs for it 10:29 because I remember someone talking about it 10:29 way back 10:30 good idea 10:30 * K2 conjures up greater grep spell 10:30 * NetSysFire gives K2 a magic marker 10:30 heh 10:31 * Umbire gives K2 a blessed plain spellbook 10:31 I think I remember K2 talking about it ;-) 10:31 yeah i'm the only one to mention it here 10:31 lol 10:31 * NetSysFire genocides team a 10:32 Is this about the summon nasties spell? 10:32 it would be yes 10:32 Aleax is a nasty? 10:33 Yes 10:33 i looked over that bit of code, there's no way I can see a chaotic aligned monster summoning anything S_ANGEL 10:33 (have you ever fought one?) 10:33 Did they do it in Gehennom? 10:33 Because iirc it works differently there 10:33 right, neutral or co-aligned... 10:34 nothing in #hardfought either 10:35 "If this spell is cast in Gehennom, it is treated as if the Wizard of Yendor were summoning regardless of the caster, and there is a 1⁄10 chance that a demon is summoned " 10:36 And Rodney's unaligned so 10:36 Lawful nasties could absolutely show up under that circumstance 10:37 I don't know what this bit means: 10:37 Both this and remote summoning by the Wizard of Yendor are considered neutral for this purpose. 10:38 no 10:38 Oh, treated as though the caster were neutral-aligned I think 10:38 there are no angelic beings in rodney's nasties list 10:38 Wait wait wait 10:39 Was it just any old A they summoned 10:39 Or like, angels of non-lawful gods or what 10:39 it didnt specificy, what i posted is what i got 10:39 specify 10:39 specihfgtjdhgjk 10:41 dang this game really has all the bells and whistles https://0x0.st/-tSw.png 10:41 ... 10:41 K2 another factor is genociding 10:42 right, random monster could be picked 10:42 i'm calling this a non-bug 10:42 \o/ 10:43 if it's because of geno then you could still fix it so it wouldn't summon a grudging monster? 10:43 why would i do that? 10:43 depends where your imagination takes you 10:43 its fun 10:43 bob the balrog and alice the angel were summoned by the same summoner 10:43 if you assume the spellcaster tries summoning the geno'd monster and gets something random then it's not a bug 10:43 but they hate each other 10:43 but first time after that they'd realise surely 10:43 amateurhour its not an assumption 10:43 and that just leads to more edge cases 10:44 look in nasty() 10:44 whereas if you assume the summoner doesn't know what they're gonna get when they cast it 10:44 sorry K2 I meant in-game 10:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s1fHtIVqiQ 10:44 like what goes through the spellcaster's mind when casting summon nasties 10:44 a bunch of 0's and 1's 10:44 if you get me, not 'assuming what the code does' 10:45 yeah 10:45 why is that master mind flayer not showing up? let me try again... another alice the angel??? 10:46 let me try AGAIN! 10:46 lol 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a panther, on T:6223 10:52 rawr 10:53 In 3.4.3 I once had a titan summon Demogorgon on me, just as I was about to kill the Wizard for the first time 10:53 ouch 10:53 That was a case of get the heck out here NOW :-) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:42947 10:56 qt - your report here - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L7 10:57 technically not a bug. looking in hack.c as to what causes 'unknown obstacle' to be called, water falls underneath 'solid' 10:58 water/lava 10:58 same in 3.7 10:59 so when do we get paranoid water/lava/trap? :p 10:59 never 10:59 :( 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8815 points, T:7841, killed by a couatl of Ptah 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:43080 11:02 K2: it still shouldn't be "an unknown obstacle" 11:03 technically it's a vanilla 'bug' 11:03 or maybe not a bug so much as 'didnt feel like making special case for water/lava' 11:03 YASI: kicking a tree has a low chance of transforming it into an ent 11:04 K2: the bug is that it works normally (correctly says "the water") when you F-attack an empty water square 11:04 it only says "unknown obstacle" when displacement is involved 11:04 because it's basing the name of the terrain on the glyph -- and the glyph is a monster glyph, because there's a monster there 11:05 so it defaults to "unknown obstacle" 11:05 yeah it's a latent vanilla bug I think since nothing in vanilla can be displaced and over the water 11:05 hmm 11:05 not really important and the scenario is super rare 11:05 i mostly just thought it was sort of interesting when I noticed it 11:05 the key thing to remember in all this, is that we blame the devteam 11:06 :P 11:06 but K2 u r the devteam 11:07 neg 11:12 i'm not vanilla devteam silly :P 11:17 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://git.io/JE8mo 11:17 [EvilHack] k21971 a312c88 - "ascended (in dishonor)" when align and align0 don't match. 11:17 [EvilHack] k21971 37f1e84 - Tweak baby/gold dragon tile. 11:17 [EvilHack] k21971 994d1b8 - Fix: certain hallucinatory messages in dumplog. 11:17 aosdict I borrowed 'in dishonor' 11:17 i'll give it back after lunch 11:18 sure you will 11:19 just like you'll 'give back' my jelly beans 11:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 115 points, T:359, killed by a goblin 11:19 heh 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5111 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Law) murdered his faithful killer bee, on T:5117 11:24 you need to go potty to get a jelly bean from K2 11:24 ^ that 11:25 do you know how many times I've done that in my life? he better bring an 18 wheeler full 11:25 aosdict: it only counts if you use the big boy toilet 11:29 lol 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1814 points, T:2230, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:29 i blame lag 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:44065 11:40 hmm 11:40 this is weird 11:40 no its not its my shitty connection 11:40 when running tile2bmp utility to make tiles for evilhack 11:40 i get: 11:40 color } not in colormap! 11:40 color # not in colormap! 11:40 didn't find expected '}' 11:40 Gray mapping issue 17 > 16. 11:40 Gray mapping issue 18 > 16. 11:41 ^ many more 'Gray mapping issue' entries 11:41 it still makes the tileset though 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a hobbit corpse on an altar of Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3232 12:09 figured out part of it (thanks paxed for noticing the obvious) 12:12 huh i'm missing some bits from graymappings[] 12:12 wtf 12:13 oh i see 12:13 in nethack 3.6 graymapping[] never went past P, seems I have some tiles that use letters from Q-Z 12:14 3.7 accounts for those 12:14 thanks paxed 12:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3623 12:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36 got it sorted 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:44633 12:42 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JE82Q 12:42 [EvilHack] k21971 f2fc1c8 - Fix: errors/warnings during tileset creation. 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed qt's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8210 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11782 13:17 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #evilhack 13:21 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17316 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a yeti, on T:17560 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19475 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a copper chain mail entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19953 13:54 why does a lawful god gift angelslayer? arent angels always aligned and usually peaceful to those who are lawful and have positive alignment? 13:54 "here have a weapon against my minions if i get angry at you" 14:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:09 omg smoky potion wish 14:09 i never get those 14:10 proven false by recent events 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:23030 14:15 i only had 2 potions of object detection and both of them had djinni in them 14:15 now I can't detect objects 14:15 the second one just disappeared 14:20 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JE8Qd 14:20 [EvilHack] k21971 b9a7882 - Fix: various monster/object tiles. 14:26 NetSysFire - angelslayer is unaligned 14:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:23752 14:30 k2 thanks a lot, you woke up all these nymphs for me 14:31 they robbed me of everything 14:31 and then zapped me with my own wand 14:31 one had a wand of lightning, presumably your work 14:31 yeah 14:31 or I should say, has a wand of lightning 14:31 avenge me 14:31 they stole my cockatrice corpse so I am waiting that out for now 14:31 lest I get stoned 14:32 did you have any good loot 14:33 wand of tele, wand of invis 14:33 some potions 14:33 otherwise no 14:33 i guess that's why so many of them are invisible 14:34 i got that level on dlvl 5 14:34 so my toon wasnt that far along 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible k2's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:24514 14:36 wow you really didn't have any inventory left at all? 14:36 other than gold 14:37 yup 14:38 lol rip 14:38 i just attacked a peaceful goblin outrider, riding a wolf and the wolf remained peaceful even after i slew his rider 14:56 heh 14:56 updated the evilhack tileset 14:56 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2598/source 14:56 fixed a few monsters. pseudodragons dont look like yellow dragons anymore hah 14:57 pegasus actually looks like a pegasus 14:57 the riders horses look like they're supposed to 15:00 aosdict what happened to the person that gave xnethack the special tile treatment - https://www.hardfought.org/hterm/tileset/xnethack.48x48.png 15:01 was that greg88? 15:04 i love the look of the default nethack tiles 15:04 i never use them but I think they look really cool 15:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9360 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a magical magenta spellbook given to her by Anhur, on T:80454 15:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 22110 points, T:9858, killed by a dwarven watch captain 15:14 this has the funny displacer beast tile yeah that was greg88 15:14 there's some other gems in there too 15:14 imp 15:15 nurse 15:15 yeah but iirc he only added new tiles for xnh 15:16 so 3.7 stuff and engraving and so on 15:16 grass 15:25 which monster is gumby 15:26 clay golem i guess? 15:31 hah i missed that one 15:31 i'm Gumby, dammit! 15:32 there's a boss monster from Doom in there too 16:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 518 points, T:337, killed by a bolt of fire 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4883 points, T:4763, killed by a giant mimic 17:02 -!- qt has quit [Quit: brb] 17:12 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a pair of boots called jump entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27988 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 69988 points, T:28421, suffocated by a water elemental, while praying 17:18 nooo 17:19 i think i had a wand of teleportation, too -- I thought I had one more turn to live than I actually did 17:19 :( 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:49604 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 3873 points, T:2406, killed by a stone giant 17:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 702 points, T:2394, killed by a water moccasin 17:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4 points, T:52, killed by a fox, while reading a book 18:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:12 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 18:23 now that Katharine and Vecna are vanquished, I guess I have to bother the demon lords. 18:25 no ludios or blackmarket this game. 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7937 18:52 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:24 what was this & carrying? "it reflects from the nalfeshnee's shimmering globe!" 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Con Gno Mal Cha), 1585 points, T:3193, killed by a giant ant 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:82603 19:32 go bouquet 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:82671 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:82674 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:82676 19:35 -!- ChrisANG has joined #evilhack 19:36 you know what's evil? All the different 'h' monsters that aren't alhoons make it 10x harder to genocide the damn things 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:82696 19:43 yeah 19:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2758 points, T:2955, killed by an ape 19:51 is there a way to refresh my knowledge of a spell when I'm at 1-25%? Says I know it quite well already. 19:51 iirc + but not sure 19:52 maybe I'm thinking of Un and xnh gives the option? 19:52 -!- qt has quit [Quit: night] 19:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:83294 20:23 +7dmg from eating rings. That's a record for me 20:27 Oh right, eating rings and such might be a strat I actually use in this variant 20:32 I got soooo lucky. +dmg,+hit, and prot are all edible. 20:33 I remember xorns having 3 arms/legs. Too bad I can't wear 3 rings and an extra boot. 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4100 points, T:8302, killed by a chameleon imitating an alhoon 20:37 wew that's fucked 20:40 rip 20:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6469 points, T:5165, killed by a magic missile 20:48 damn wizards stunning me 20:57 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3387 20:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59 -!- Guest3387 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 295 points, T:1007, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Ms. Siverek; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:992 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:83968 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:83969 22:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://git.io/JE4Mv 22:07 [EvilHack] k21971 9963d8f - Some roles as giant race were missing chance to start with a gem. 22:07 [EvilHack] k21971 3f6fd99 - Fix: better way to handle same race being peaceful towards Infidel. 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:84314 22:11 is there any way to recover lost HP when drained by demon lords? 22:12 yes 22:12 drink potions of healing, nurse dance, level up... 22:13 eeeeevil 22:14 its the same as losing max hp from anything else, vanilla included 22:14 just that orcus and his wand are very nasty 22:14 Yeah I am 22:14 is he still stonable? 22:14 i even toned down the amount he drains 22:14 not looking forward to eventually dealing with hat 22:14 yeah 22:14 that* 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a silver saber entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:6631 22:15 I might burn my final wish on a something or other of drain resist. Will that help? Or is that only for protection from level drain? 22:16 level drain 22:16 drain res is for level drain, not max hit point lowering 22:17 the same strat you used on vecna, you could use on orcus 22:17 ya, paralysis is my usual go-to for monsters that insist on standing next to me. 22:17 hit as hard as you can, and from a distance if possible. paralyze him if you can 22:17 but potions are very few in this game. 22:18 do you have acid blast spell? 22:18 Yup 22:18 demons have no protection vs acid 22:18 cone of cold would work well also 22:19 ^ last bit, same in vanilla with a couple exceptions 22:19 speaking of resistances... I was trying to ice bomb a red dragon but he resisted every hit and took almost no dmg. 22:19 hmm red dragons are actually vulnerable to cold 22:20 ya. Maybe he ate a winter wolf? 22:20 It might have been a pet at one time, I charm all dragons. 22:20 hahah 22:20 if that happened... epic 22:22 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1670 22:22 -!- Guest1670 has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 22:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:9038 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:50872 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Law), 6390 points, T:8978, killed by a piranha 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a bone helmet entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:11538 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a steel long sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:11728 23:20 For giant players, the giant Samurai's splint mail can only be worn by them, right?