00:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6016
00:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an electric eel, on T:3343
00:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2463 points, T:3355, killed by a killer bee
00:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 39 points, T:279, killed by a jackal
00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:2779
00:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fixed Dragonbane", on T:8521
00:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Set, on T:4673
01:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7571 points, T:3782, killed by an ice vortex
01:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:9984
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03:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 7745 points, T:6191, killed by a black pudding
03:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 33 points, T:111, killed by a newt
03:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu), 218 points, T:1280, killed by a small mimic
04:35 <mobileuser> Hi aosdict, I have MOAR xNetHack questions!
04:36 <mobileuser> First question, it says on the wiki on the entry on glass: " it is possible to shatterproof glass weapons and armor via the normal methods of erodeproofing, such as confused scrolls of enchant weapon."
04:36 <Umbire> mobileuser: Where's the question? :B
04:37 <Umbire> Perhaps I can help
04:37 <mobileuser> well, it says "and armor"
04:37 <Umbire> "such as confused scrolls of enchant weapon."
04:37 <Umbire> e.g., for example, and so on
04:38 <mobileuser> can you erodeproof armor if you wield it and read confused weapon?
04:38 <Umbire> lmfao n
04:38 <Umbire> no*
04:38 <mobileuser> and I don't type very fast :-)
04:38 <Umbire> the sentence means that you can erodeproof glass armor like any other armor
04:38 <Umbire> Or " via the normal methods of erodeproofing"
04:39 <Umbire> for which confused EW serves as an example 
04:39 <mobileuser> right, just checking to be sure
04:40 <mobileuser> second question: do dragonhide items actually exist?
04:42 <Umbire> Mhm
04:42 <Umbire> Reasonably rare, of course
04:42 <Umbire> Not wishable in xnh, there's also that
04:43 <mobileuser> I don't see them mentioned under "object materials", but dragonhide is mentioned under "Numerical quantity changes"
04:44 <Umbire> Likely a mishap on my part
04:45 <mobileuser> Well, I think it would be logical if dragonhide actually never generates
04:45 <Umbire> Oh no, it's definitely in the original listed I copied to the objmat article
04:45 <Umbire> list*
04:46 <Umbire> But only in that section you mentioned, not elsewhere
04:46 <mobileuser> it doesn't feel right combined with dtsund
04:48 <mobileuser> if dragonhide is removed, my YANI would be to allow object materials in wishes (and don't allow object materials in wishes for artifacts).
04:49 <mobileuser> it wouldn't change the game balance much and add more fun
04:54 <amateurhour> what's wrong with object materials and artifacts?
04:55 <mobileuser> wiki: "Don't start planning out wishes as if you're going to get +5 dragonhide everything and a silver Excalibur."
04:55 <amateurhour> I think silver excalibur is fine honestly :P
04:55 <mobileuser> I can well imagine you don't want to allow silver excalibur ;-)
04:55 <amateurhour> in dnh there's plenty of crazy options for excalibur
04:56 <amateurhour> there's a +12 longsword of the deeps in the neutral quest that can be turned into excalibur
04:56 <amateurhour> or is it +10, I forget
04:56 <amateurhour> and excalibur keeps all its object properties
04:57 <Umbire> That list has been that way for a while, it wasn't suddenly just up and removed
04:57 <mobileuser> amateurhour dnh game balance is totally different
04:57 <amateurhour> yeah, I just mean it wouldn't be that crazy
04:58 <amateurhour> like if you could get silver excalibur say, then you're gonna hold off for ages finding silver long sword
04:58 <amateurhour> or burn a wish for one
04:58 <amateurhour> seems completely fine to me
04:59 <mobileuser> I am neutral on that one, I can imagine aosdict disagrees
04:59 <mobileuser> But for normal objects I don't see the problem (if dragonhide is excluded)
05:00 <amateurhour> true
05:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14982
05:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:15714
05:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:18276
06:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:18978
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06:49 <aosdict> mobileuser: why are you asking me moar xnethack questions in #evilhack and not #xnethack or #hardfought
06:51 <mobileuser> thx, I'll switch to #xnethack
06:52 <aosdict> !tell Umbire Like all the other materials, dragonhide has stats for if items made of it ever do exist, but non-dragonhide-base items do not randomly generate as dragonhide.
06:52 <Hecubus> No worries, aosdict, I've got this!
06:52 <aosdict> object materials in wishes are not going to happen, sorry
06:53 <aosdict> a big part of xnethack philosophy is having random found items be valuable
06:53 <aosdict> if you can wish for materials it kneecaps that
06:53 <aosdict> because then everyone's just back to wishing up their ascension kit and ignoring found items
06:56 <mobileuser> well, I'd say people do that anyway, adding an object material isn't going to change much
06:56 <mobileuser> but I don't feel strongly about this
06:56 <mobileuser> just offering input
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07:55 <K2> aosdict takes away all of the fun from wishing
07:56 <K2> boooo
08:02 <aosdict> what? I didn't take anything away
08:02 <aosdict> you can wish for the same stuff as in vanilla
08:03 <mobileuser> very small detail: can you wish for a silver saber like in vanilla?
08:04 <aosdict> no because the base item is saber now
08:05 <aosdict> there are plenty of silver items to go around though in practice
08:05 <aosdict> fooouuuunnndd iiiitteemmmssss
08:07 <mobileuser> ok so not 100% the same stuff as in vanilla :b 
08:08 <mobileuser> I took a silver sword of an Aleax, that will do!
08:08 <K2> heh
08:08 <aosdict> ok but it's not like the ability to wish for a silver saber is like the load-bearing element of having fun wishing in vanilla
08:14 <K2> oh but it is
08:14 <K2> I T   I S
08:14 <K2> and the more important thing here, is that you've made mobileuser sad
08:14 <K2> when he's sad, dishes dont get washed
08:14 <K2> when dishes dont get washed, no clean plates to eat off of
08:14 <mobileuser> lol
08:14 <K2> before you know it, society as we know it crumbles
08:15 <mobileuser> I should make notes of this
08:15 <K2> aosdict ushered in the demise of modern society because he disallowed wishing for a silver saber
08:15 <mobileuser> In case I have wishes for evilhack
08:15 <K2> :P
08:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9040 points, T:6743, killed by a gnomish wizard
08:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 4011 points, T:3065, killed by an ape, while praying
08:55 <rebatela> i just got those bones lacca. Did you find bones yourself ? (the dragonbane looks like it was cursed to begin with? ) 
08:55 <lacca[m]> Yep 
08:55 <lacca[m]> The amulet is reflection 
08:56 <rebatela> thanks (yeah i'm looking at dumlog ;) ) 
08:56 <rebatela> dump
08:57 <rebatela> got lucky the boh that had stuff in it wasn't cursed! 
08:57 <mobileuser> lacca, a little tip when you get stunned by a  gnomish wizard:
08:57 <lacca[m]> Yaay 
08:57 <lacca[m]> I think I got scrolls of charging inside
08:57 <mobileuser> applying the fire horn will act as a tooled horn
08:58 <lacca[m]> Oh nice! Thanks!
08:58 <rebatela> wow i didn't know that either
08:58 <rebatela> i hate those things so much 
09:01 <lacca[m]> rebatela I also had default cloak of protection, but it is cursed
09:01 <rebatela> i just hope i can survive. you had a lot of good stuff! 
09:02 <rebatela> this is that damn zoo minetown right? I think i'm just gonna bounce
09:02 <lacca[m]> Yep
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09:03 <mobileuser> K2 please implement xnh-style spellcasting, otherwise I will be sad and society as we know it will crumble
09:04 <K2> no
09:04 <amateurhour> lol :P
09:04 <K2> i dont like it
09:04 <amateurhour> K2 please implement slashem-style spellcasting, otherwise I will be sad and society as we know it will crumble
09:04 <K2> no
09:04 <K2> :P
09:05 <mobileuser> dishwashers unite!
09:05 <amateurhour> \o/
09:05 * K2 adds 'washing dishes' ability
09:05 <mobileuser> ^ society  saved
09:09 <K2> finally finished making all archived ttyrecs available for download
09:11 <K2> now to tweak
09:11 <amateurhour> does that include zapm
09:13 <K2> gdammit
09:13 <amateurhour> :)
09:13 <amateurhour> I ascended zapm twice recently, gotta preserve the evidence
09:23 <K2> gonna have it sort descending instead of ascending
09:23 <K2> so newest first
09:26 <K2> seriously, there is no pleasing this guy lol
09:26 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0b2e4b1364c8a3347736316a04493e5d4281ce20#commitcomment-55016232
09:27 <amateurhour> hahaha
09:27 <aosdict> sort descending so that zapm is first alphabetically
09:27 <K2> i do appreciate his evilness though
09:27 <K2> and he has a point
09:27 <aosdict> epi: infidels cannot use any healing spells because moloch doesn't tolerate that kind of namby pamby goody goody stuff
09:27 <K2> hahah
09:28 <aosdict> i joke of course
09:28 <aosdict> unless...?
09:28 <K2> everyone thank aosdict, infidels will no longer be able to cast healing spells
09:29 <mobileuser> hmmm
09:29 <K2> i kid :P
09:30 <K2> gonna wait and see what else he has to comment on
09:30 <mobileuser> heh
09:31 <mobileuser> some tweak will be needed for healing spells, maybe they should have no effect without the amulet
09:32 <K2> i was thinking of that
09:32 <K2> i wanna see what tomsod has to say
09:32 <K2> see if he pops back in here
09:37 <rebatela> can you dip potions into a cursed unihorn for normal clearing effects etc? 
09:37 <K2> no, but you can dip a unihorn into a potion
09:37 <rebatela> ;)
09:37 <rebatela> it won't matter that it's cursed though right?
09:38 <K2> i think so
09:38 <K2> i think it matters
09:38 <rebatela> i badly need to find remove curse in this game 
09:38 <K2> consult the wiki, i didnt make any changes to dipping
09:39 <mobileuser> wiki says you need a noncursed unihorn
09:43 <rebatela> thanks. i was just able to uncurse it 
09:45 <amateurhour> YASI: you should be able to weld a cursed unicorn to your forehead and unlock a stabbing headbutt attack
09:45 <K2> amateurhour - zapm is available now (ttyrec download)
09:45 <amateurhour> thanks K2
09:46 <amateurhour> cursed unicorn horn*
09:46 <K2> hah
09:46 <amateurhour> though attaching a whole unicorn is an even sillier idea that I approve of
09:46 <K2> 'hey Bill, why is there a unicorn dangling from your forehead?'
09:46 <K2> 'Oh, is there? didnt notice'
10:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5658
10:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 462 points, T:1181, killed by a mountain dwarf
10:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8558
10:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet called restful sleep on an altar, on T:4458
10:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 21004 points, T:8714, killed by a bolt of cold
10:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) averted death (killed by Ms. Kopasker; the shopkeeper), on T:4689
10:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7580 points, T:4692, killed by Ms. Kopasker; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
11:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7041 points, T:6097, killed by a Green-elf
11:33 <lacca[m]> Rip rebatela)
11:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (gnome zombies), on T:1405
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1078 points, T:1526, killed by a gas cloud
12:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 696 points, T:1150, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse, while praying
12:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2050 points, T:2056, killed by a giant mosquito
12:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 918 points, T:1315, killed by a falling object
12:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2341 points, T:3203, killed by a vrock
12:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3913 points, T:3002, killed by an Uruk-hai
13:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 42 points, T:74, killed by a goblin
13:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1209 points, T:964, killed by a bolt of fire
14:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20 points, T:46, killed by a black pudding
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14:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1285 points, T:1902, killed by a water moccasin
14:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2361 points, T:2598, quit
16:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 27 items on an altar, on T:4558
16:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:52359
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16:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had a pair of fencing gloves entrusted to him by Venus, on T:21507
16:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 320 points, T:915, killed by a gnome lady
16:48 <qt> !lastgame qt
16:48 <Hecubus> qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/evilhack/dumplog/1629233158.evil.html
16:49 <qt> this is sick, how could they kill an innocent salvation army bell ringer
16:51 <mobileuser> that mental attack was purely by accident of course
16:51 <mobileuser> easy mistake, why get so angry about that
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:54190
16:58 <qt> it was self defense
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17:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:22340
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18:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Hea Cen Fem Neu), 1754 points, T:2101, killed by a bolt of cold
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 41 points, T:176, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse, while praying
18:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2194 points, T:3686, killed by a mountain dwarf, while taking off clothes
18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had an axe entrusted to him by Venus, on T:23072
18:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of charm monster", on T:66449
19:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:55404
19:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 7 points, T:161, killed by a bolt of fire
19:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 642 points, T:2148, killed by a rabid rat
19:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Tou Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3685
19:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 219 points, T:422, killed by a water moccasin
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1629 points, T:1687, killed by an iguana
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19:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 240 points, T:675, killed by a goblin
19:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 749 points, T:2147, zombified by a gnome zombie
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20:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a knife entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4000
20:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1966 points, T:5152, killed by a fire ant, while being terrified of a ghost
20:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 35 points, T:181, killed by a raven
20:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 801 points, T:1938, killed by a gnome king
21:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 9046 points, T:6506, killed by a warg
21:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 15714 points, T:9758, killed by a gargoyle
21:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Rog Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:194
22:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 86 points, T:838, killed by Mr. Yad; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
22:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 140 points, T:470, killed by a newt
22:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 433 points, T:726, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze
22:32 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J0YK0
22:32 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 2671b28 - Fix: could reach a forge while levitating.
22:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 277 points, T:599, killed by a giant bat
23:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 7550 points, T:6630, killed by a mastodon
23:36 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J0YFP
23:36 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 73c20d4 - Prevent healing magic abuse as Infidel w/o Amulet of Yendor.
23:40 <aosdict> you don't really need to overkill it that much if you don't want to, you simply need to pick a value that's higher than the average expected amount of healing
23:41 <aosdict> bonus there is instead of players just saying "ah ok another spoiler tax never try to cleverly cast healing spells as a hp-sapped infidel" you might get players trying to beat the system if there's a *chance* they can gain some HP for any spell cast, but that chance is bad odds
23:41 <Umbire> For p. minimal gain at that
23:41 <Hecubus> Umbire: Message from aosdict at 2021-08-17 06:52 EDT: Like all the other materials, dragonhide has stats for if items made of it ever do exist, but non-dragonhide-base items do not randomly generate as dragonhide.
23:42 <Umbire> oic
23:42 <aosdict> so instead of 30 penalty for 6d4 from healing (expected value 15) it could be 20. you can still win... c'mon, give it a shot...
23:43 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J0YNs
23:43 <Not-da3c> [EvilHack] k21971 042b1f9 - Fix: gold dragon scale mail remained lit in bones.
23:45 <K2> aosdict I played around with various values. you have to take players natural regen into account also
23:45 <K2> i've got it dialed in
23:46 <K2> bedtime, gnite o/
23:47 <Umbire> K2: Quick question before you go
23:47 <aosdict> K2: glad to know the devteam is still thinking of everything
23:48 <Umbire> There's no chaotic sac gifts beyond the usual four, right?
23:48 <Umbire> I found an elven broadsword and I wanna know in case I decide to be cheeky later
23:49 <Umbire> ...I also appear to have become invisible and have no idea how
23:49 <Umbire> oh there we go
23:49 <Umbire> That was awk
23:50 <Umbire> because now I have to remove this +5 wrapping if I want that invisibility to mean shit lol
23:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Rog Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2981
23:51 <Umbire> Well not like it matters anymore
23:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1316 points, T:1110, quit
23:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 1576 points, T:2991, killed by a Green-elf
23:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Hum Fem Cha), 100 points, T:301, killed by a jackal, while praying
23:54 <aosdict> did you get rekt by the elf that showed up when you named sting
23:59 <arahael> Elves turn up when you name sting?  What happens?
23:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Gno Fem Cha), 63 points, T:324, killed by a falling object