00:04 got the 'blood magic' bit sorted for infidels 00:04 just need to tweak it a bit 00:05 just past midnight here and the sky is clear finally and there's no moon. just past peak but hoping i can catch some of the Perseid meteor shower 00:07 Sick, hope you do 00:21 saw a couple good ones 00:53 K2: What's that? 00:53 meteors 00:56 * arahael raises his eyebrows. 00:57 Perseid 00:57 you can't see it where you're at unfortunately 01:05 Ok. :) Just pleased to know that evilhack contimues to have even more amazing depth to the game. :) 01:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JRjtt 01:07 [EvilHack] k21971 0b2e4b1 - Change penalty for Infidel casting spells without the Amulet of Yendor in inventory. 01:08 :) 01:09 Oh yeah, funny 01:09 Was thinking of tapping mobileuser about that 01:09 You get a lot of MP to be sure but you still have to deal with that extra casting drain 01:10 The blood magic fallback is pretty solid though 01:11 well its not technically 'blood magic' 01:11 it's not referred as such 01:12 Right, my b 01:12 if you'd like to see the new changes and are playing infidel, save and reload 01:13 Was wondering if I should 01:14 i just patched 01:14 Probably won't be doing it too much though 01:14 since elf 01:14 no real need to save/reload if not playing inf 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a wormwood staff entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:26267 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] zblargles (Inf Elf Fem Una) murdered Hecubus Jr., her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:157 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] zblargles (Inf Elf Fem Una), 64 points, T:157, killed by a scroll of earth 01:23 I was 01:23 Elf Infidel 01:24 so my HP sucks anyway 01:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a hardcover spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:27882 01:26 Hell yeah, bone club 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Elf Fem Una), 2158 points, T:3348, killed by a warg 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:30587 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Arc Hob Fem Law), 182 points, T:796, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Sam Hum Mal Law), 516 points, T:1021, killed by a giant mimic 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:35248 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una) destroyed the invisible Umbire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:2942 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:3081 03:29 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) averted death (killed by an invisible owlbear), on T:38341 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a platinum dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:38384 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una), 3473 points, T:4293, killed by a Woodland-elf 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Con Orc Fem Cha), 198 points, T:848, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 04:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:10, killed by a cadaver 04:06 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Inf Orc Mal Una), 1450 points, T:2711, killed by a mountain dwarf 05:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:16 -!- Pinkbeas3 has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:56 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:04 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 08:10 -!- Pinkbeas1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:11 -!- Pinkbeas3 has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (green slimes), on T:150 09:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 10279 points, T:7574, killed by a flint stone 10:01 K2 nice Infidel commit! \o/ 10:02 Great to have extra options if someone steals the amulet (or the idol after imbuing) 10:03 we can dump the amulet in sokoban again \o/ 10:07 heh 10:07 I expect it will also be possible to do casting of forgotten spells again without the amulet 10:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:59 yes 11:59 and that was a side effect i didnt consider before 12:00 i dont think you're going to want to dump the amulet though, the hp drain is the same as the power drain 12:00 that could sneak up on ya and bite 12:00 what do you think of the double infidel ascension idea? 12:00 kill the high priest, ascend as lawful 12:00 mobileuser - once the idol was imbued, there was never a spellcasting penalty 12:01 amateurhour if an infidel tried to asc as lawful, moloch should strike them down 12:01 homey dont play that 12:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QhuBIkPXn0 12:08 so much to do today... bbl 12:30 K2 you could still cast (at all) without the imbued idol in the old situation? 12:31 been worrying about that for nothing then :-) 12:51 yeah 13:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:14 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:39 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:45571 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5357 16:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6002 16:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:53825 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53827 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 450 points, T:1441, killed by a magic missile 17:23 I took back the bell and upset Nefret, then branch ported out of there. Is it considered "complete" or do I have to back and kill her? 17:24 my reading of the wiki suggests I'm good to go, but this is a new twist and I wanted to make sure. 17:24 -!- bouquet__ is now known as bouquet 17:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a purple spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:47832 17:34 bouquet you'll have to defat your quest leader 17:34 *defeat 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una) had an orange spellbook given to him by Moloch, on T:48023 17:34 K2 bouquet chatted with the quest leader 17:34 that should be enough? 17:35 i need context 17:35 did the quest leader ask for the quest artifact back and bouquet not give it to them? 17:35 bouquet I think you can check under #achievements? 17:36 Is that right K2, can you see if the bell is imbued under #achievements ? 17:37 no 17:37 you can see if you're defeated your quest nemesis/leader there 17:37 *you've 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 159 points, T:610, killed by a vrock, while being terrified of a demon 17:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 15455 points, T:9715, poisoned by a locust, while paralyzed by a monster 17:38 "Declining will anger your quest leader, and they will attack. Regardless of the outcome, the quest is flagged as complete." 17:38 wiki 17:38 ah right 17:38 will that show in achievements? 17:38 i thought maybe he gave it back and then stole it 17:38 no 17:39 hmm 17:39 i'm tired... maybe? quest is complete 17:39 we await further clarification from bouquet :b 17:40 !lastgame 17:40 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/evilhack/dumplog/1629062663.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1629056747.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1628997980.evil.html 17:45 mobileuser did you see the last two commits or just the very last one? 17:46 hmmm https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/p51zwr/moloch_uncurses_weapons_and_armor/ 17:50 I did chat with her. Then I was presented the choice to give it or keep it. I chose to keep it and branch ported my ass out of there 17:51 ok 17:51 quest is complete 17:51 however 17:51 my 4th grade teacher was very critical of my poor reading comprehension. That's why I often ask for clarity :) 17:51 hmm dammit 17:51 my head is jello 17:51 K2: remember how you leaned on someone to update reddit flairs? can you do it again to get them to change the sidebar to not say "nethack 3.4.3 (and 3.6.0+ where applicable)" and "nethack has been updated for the first time in over 10 years" 17:52 ok yeah you had the convo with the quest leader 17:52 its completed 17:53 Thanks. I appreciate the spare pseudodragon pet at the end of the quest. 17:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3402 points, T:3117, killed by a raven 17:58 aosdict where are you seeing that exactly? i'm not 17:59 K2 yeah I saw, very cool! :-) 17:59 bedtime for me 17:59 gnite o/ 18:00 oh i see... you're still using old reddit 18:00 a fair amount of that info on the sidebar is outdated 18:02 hate new reddit 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:37 aosdict: Use an app instead if you want reddit at all. Imho, reddit sucks, though. 18:39 I want reddit on my computer not my phone 18:39 I don't actually log in unless I have something to say on /r/nethack 18:45 Well, got a elf knight to Minetown 18:45 Riding does a lot for you esp. if you raise your steed to cauchemar level 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Gia Mal Una), 143510 points, T:51973, killed by a leocrotta 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a mithril large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5058 19:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 280 points, T:498, zombified by a kobold zombie, while praying 19:55 followup to my quest question... now that Nefret and her guards are hostile is it considered murder if I go mow them down? 19:57 I'd assume they're "always peaceful" monsters 19:57 so yes 19:57 plus big penalties for killing quest friendlies 19:57 luck etc 19:57 they're quite peeved at the moment because I didn't give her the Eye 19:58 Yeah, probably not worth facing them anyway 19:58 Esp. an angry Nef 19:58 I guess I'll just leave it. Thought they might have some good lewt. 19:58 I'm pretty short on offensive spells. 19:59 It'd be more trouble than it's worth, like 80% sure 20:01 no black market or ludios this game so I'm struggling for wands and and potions. 20:04 I still get to experience the new vecna level, so I got that going for me, which is nice. 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class a), on T:55534 20:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Mal Una), 317 points, T:1064, killed by Ms. Wirix; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 20:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 728 points, T:1754, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:56547 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5571 points, T:5102, killed by a water moccasin 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5991 21:24 K2: did you ever need to do something so that artis wielded in your offhand while twoweaponing would still confer their extrinsics? 21:24 I noticed that when dualing Frost and Fire Brand you only get the resistance of the primary one 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) stole 50 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sneem's second-hand bookstore, on T:1007 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 202 points, T:1009, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Con Orc Fem Cha), 10 points, T:59, killed by a newt 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Con Orc Fem Cha), 316 points, T:942, crunched in the head by an iron ball 22:23 aosdict yes 22:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/J0fh8 22:29 [EvilHack] k21971 93f3152 - Fix: Infidels affected by slipping when throwing cursed objects. 22:29 [EvilHack] k21971 4dae8bb - Fix: Moloch uncursing cursed objects via prayer. 22:33 k2: yo 22:33 How's you and mini-you 22:37 There hasn't been much work done on the ice queen's branch lately so I suspect they're doing quite well. 22:37 Fucking Jabberwock in Mines End 22:46 Emergency read a blessed scroll that made my long sword +4 though 22:47 Nice. 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8156 22:47 lol spoiler 22:49 Off to Soko 22:53 Whee full ID 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful nightmare, on T:8467 22:56 Couldn't see the fucking water tile properly 22:57 Feh, whatever, guess that's on me 23:26 ...mumak first floor of Soko 23:26 awaiting me once I solve this 23:26 Fun fun fun 23:28 Got 'em