00:26 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3499 points, T:4073, caught himself in his own burning oil 00:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 13392 points, T:13277, killed by a warhorse, while praying 00:34 I should've been well outside of the prayer timeout, what happened there? ^^ 02:20 > gnomish wizard, riding a centaurian watchman <-- What The Actual ****? :( 02:20 And yes, it's hostile. 03:01 It's weird that I was able to kill it, even with another watchman watching, and it's fine. 03:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6418 points, T:4278, killed by a shocking sphere's explosion 03:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:44 YANI: You should be able to #loot your pet while mounted, requiring at least Basic in riding and specifically excluding you from attempting to remove the saddle in those specific instances. 03:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Hea Elf Fem Neu), 57 points, T:257, killed by trying to drink molten lava 03:55 Umbire: I reckon you should be able to remove the saddle, too. 03:56 While riding on it? 03:56 Yes. It should hurt you greately. 03:56 Uh, okay. 03:56 "You unclip the saddle, and fall off hard". 03:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Inf Ith Mal Una), 396 points, T:1012, killed by a goblin 04:13 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:16 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1443 points, T:1994, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 04:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1936 points, T:3328, killed by a giant beetle 04:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 2039 points, T:2739, killed by a dwarf queen 05:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 959 points, T:2885, killed by a mountain dwarf 05:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 2315 points, T:2565, killed by a magic missile 05:50 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed mithril barding of reflection", on T:47645 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3990 06:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 963 points, T:1835, killed by a dwarf lady 06:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) destroyed naoky's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:5522 06:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 149 points, T:435, killed by a bolt of lightning, while being terrified of a ghost 06:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5732 06:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5857 06:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 10003 points, T:5858, killed by a bolt of fire 07:14 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 527 points, T:1515, killed by a kitten 07:19 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Kos, on T:615 07:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3536 07:27 interesting backscroll: gnomish wizard, riding a centaurian watchman 07:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2429 points, T:3653, killed by a tengu 07:27 mobileuser: Yeah, that was weird. 07:28 K2 maybe hostile monsters shouldn't mount peaceful monsters 07:29 I've raised that concern before during my first Soko zoo 07:29 My main issue here is it's one of the town watch 07:29 as opposed to any old peaceful 07:29 yeah that's even worse 07:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a rock gnome), on T:2951 07:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3942 07:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 3723 points, T:3949, killed by a winter wolf cub 07:46 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Kos, on T:3188 07:47 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3191 07:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 389 points, T:887, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food 07:57 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2309 points, T:3735, poisoned by a gray fungus 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 926 points, T:1648, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 08:10 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 480 points, T:1496, killed by a wererat 08:17 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 198 points, T:748, killed by kicking a boulder 08:37 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1468 points, T:2944, killed by a giant mimic 08:56 giant infidel Umbire? 08:57 Yes 08:57 Game is up right now, not resuming proper yet but you can take a peek at it 08:57 I'm new to playing Infs in general so 08:57 hard to get decent AC, but the ability to hide behind boulders is so nice 08:58 Yeah, that's standard giant protocol 08:58 let me fire up US 08:58 oh neat, cursed is blessed basically 08:58 wasn't sure if I could take off my stuff 08:59 yeah being weldproof is very nice 09:01 I'm at T:19559 in my infidel game and I haven't found a usable altar yet 09:01 Moloch is getting very agitated 09:01 peaceful monsters arent supposed to mount hostile monsters 09:01 i thought we had addressed that 09:01 ah ok! 09:01 (and vice versa) 09:01 Well it seems not 09:02 feature! 09:02 And they mounted a watchperson to boot 09:02 (time for some dishes) 09:02 no 09:02 let them be 09:17 heh, done 09:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:34 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2716 points, T:6276, killed by a rothe 09:44 urgh, so "nice" when you can't read your starting spellbook :-( 09:45 just when I was starting to rely on magic missile 09:55 :/ 09:57 why can't you read it? 10:31 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 835 points, T:2318, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:53 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 793 points, T:3131, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 11:32 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 140 points, T:503, killed by a kobold, while sleeping 11:59 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 520 points, T:1823, killed by a werejackal 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4993 12:15 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 388 points, T:1790, killed by a wererat 12:21 amateurhour it's uncursed and too difficult too read 12:21 * to read 12:24 :( 12:28 starting spellbook should be blessed ( i thought it was?) or it's different for infidel? is that what's going on? 12:34 the extra random spellbook that you start with it is not necessarily blessed? isn't that just a vanilla thing? 12:35 (thinking of wizard) 12:35 oh, infidel explicitly starts with uncursed spellbooks 12:36 yeah. not sure. i'm saying more IMO it should come blessed even in evil if you know the spell you should be able to read the book. maybe that's what i mean 12:36 yeah exactly 12:37 like how did you learn it originally? it couldn't have been that hard! 12:37 you know the spell, why the F is the spell now too difficult :-) 12:39 I mean if your spell memory is fading then the second time might be a little rocky 12:47 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1354 points, T:3156, killed by a dingo 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gecko corpse on an altar of Thoth, on T:10897 13:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1317 points, T:2402, killed by an Uruk-hai 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 794 points, T:539, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 13:58 @e?Oracle 13:58 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 13:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the invisible Oracle, on T:19993 13:59 \o/ 14:00 what did you DO 14:03 the ol' murderoo 14:07 no I mean how did mobile kill her exactly 14:08 reduced their hitpoints to 0 most likely 14:08 to quote Limmy's show: well worth it mate, well worth it 14:08 haha 14:08 I surrounded her with boulders 14:08 and then kept throwing aklys 14:08 finished off with frost horn 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:50504 14:10 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: back in a bit] 14:11 I also tried drain life, but I think that just reduced the enchantment of the aklys I threw that didn't return :-( 14:12 ic 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DeathDealer (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:13605 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:50795 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2065 points, T:2674, killed by a killer bee 15:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:09 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 12709 points, T:10052, killed by a watch captain 16:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±19] https://git.io/JBSML 16:21 [EvilHack] k21971 a1e01ba - Gold dragon revamp. 16:21 o: 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a steel long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:63636 16:40 do I dare look 16:40 wont patch until ppl arent playing. it changes a lot of files 16:40 yes look. it is Good™ 16:40 it's just making gold dragon scale mail great again even thought gold dsm is already great 16:41 :) 16:41 moar good! 16:42 blessed = more light is a bit meh for infidel 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:64695 16:42 but then, infidels have better choices 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:64832 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:64832 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:64833 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided gray dragons, on T:64833 16:48 its like he's been building up on genocide 16:48 one big release 16:51 I bet he has MR this time :-) 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2985 points, T:2920, killed by a warg 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Hum Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a human corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:22021 17:02 K2 have you removed the summoning of unique demons? 17:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03 instead, I was immediately assaulted by a succubus 17:04 Believe so, yes 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:65255 17:04 That way the Gehennom demon lord generation isn't messed with 17:04 speaking of! 17:07 mobileuser: it was changed to be a random demon type 17:07 let me find the commit for you 17:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e8f34a4a037161aacadd85ac00a70d7ce3cc50ac 17:11 thx amateurhour! 17:14 typical K2 twist to make it a 20% hostile chance :-) 17:15 that could completely ruin your game with an early altar 17:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:33 Posting here as well: 17:33 Right, so which file in the source code governs the chance of you gaining an intrinsic from a given corpse 17:33 No idea where exactly to start looking, got nothing from stabbing in the dark so far 17:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:48 -!- Arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49 -!- Arahael has joined #evilhack 18:50 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 18:51 Hah, take THAT Dispater -- shattered his rod with my powerful blow on my first strike before he dusted my rings 18:52 i just... no 18:52 so many inappropriate things i could say to that comment 18:52 Honestly tho, maybe the demon special weapons should be destruction-proof 18:53 Oh, I meant to ask, you did push a wraith-reduction for Vecna, right? Only got 2 levels out of that zone this time through 18:53 yes 18:53 Nice, I like it 18:53 and you prob noticed a lot of shades 18:53 I mean, I don't like it, but I like it 18:53 yeah you can still farm wraiths, its just not quite as asy as before 18:54 *easy 18:54 I wish there was a slightly more functional mechanism for ditching a skill 18:54 Like blessed scroll of amnesia 18:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55 more modern games, like those based off of ad&d 3.5 edition, you could decrease skill in to add it over to new skill 18:55 I think it would encourage slightly more varied play (and let me get basic in 2H for Vecna and then discard it :-) 18:55 hahah 18:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:55 i think what i described above was a one time thing 18:56 once you did it thats it, no going back 18:56 blessed scroll of amnesia making you forget a random skill would be pretty sweet though 18:57 So I have somehow ended up with cursed polished barding a cursed saddle on my pegasus 18:57 but there's nothng in place to prevent you from abusing it 18:57 There is really no way to get it off, right? 18:57 there is 18:57 The pegasus kills nymphs before they can steal from her 18:57 Guess I could paralyze her 18:58 And how would that blessed amnesia function be abused? 18:58 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Saddle#Strategy 18:58 hmm i dont think i added a bit for thrown potions to collide with worn barding 18:59 Saddle strategy says "hope something steals it" which isn't great 18:59 Sucks that I can't cancel it or bludgeon it with potions of holy water 18:59 you could abuse it by being able to constantly adjust where all your skill points went whenever you wanted, to suit whatever situation called for it 18:59 That isn't abuse :-) 18:59 That opens up additional avenues of play 18:59 there's nothing in place to prevent the player from doing that over and over 19:00 But isn't that ok? Just lets you employ more strategies 19:00 And if it is random it can still be a slog or almost impossible 19:00 no i dont think it is, and the devteam most likely didnt think so either, otherwise it'd be a thing 19:01 if that were to be allowed, it'd make more sense to just be able to shift skill point via #enhance 19:02 *points 19:02 That is zero-cost though 19:02 that's why it should just be a one-off 19:02 like it is in a lot of games that allow it 19:03 OR, new scroll - scroll of training 19:03 reading allows the ability adjust X number of skill points 19:03 reading it whilst cursed is bad 19:03 If it is supposed to be one-off have it be a one-time-only random throne effect 19:03 confused could be interesting 19:03 blessed would allow more changes vs uncursed 19:04 ^ YANI 19:04 I always thought a cursed scroll of fire should make lava under your feet 19:06 hah 19:12 I didn't know there is polished barding, that is pretty cool. Is there polished spiked barding also? 19:17 no 19:17 i felt that would be too OP 19:18 Does the spiked do significant damage? 19:18 no, it just prevents your steed from being digested by an engulfer 19:19 Ahhh 19:20 Shit way to lose a steed, that 19:22 I've never had the pegasus this long before; just wish its gear wasn't all cursed 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1102 points, T:1202, killed by a mountain dwarf 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:67121 19:34 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JB9Ld 19:34 [EvilHack] k21971 7ded8d6 - Fix: adjust list for what's acceptable as a monster rider/steed. 19:36 Surely centaurs can mount centaurs, or else, where do centaurs come from? 19:41 :) 19:42 Isn't the lore that centaurs dislike being mounted? 19:43 i think so 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 522 points, T:893, zombified by a diseased dwarf corpse 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:67747 19:44 WTF where did he come from 19:45 If I already saw my three random demon levels I guess this is a bones? He was right next to the up-stairs 19:46 Hmm, he dropped a bardiche and a rod 19:46 could have been gated in also 19:47 He was next to the upstairs, with 1/3rd health, nothing else around 19:47 Weird 19:47 huh 19:47 Had to be bones 19:47 Probably popped to the upstair while something else killed off our unfortunate sap 19:47 oh i bet its my bones 19:47 is this in orcus town? 19:47 Just below my Orcus town level 19:48 ah ok, not my bones then 19:48 I'll come back and explore, need some r&r at my stash first 19:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1826 points, T:1325, killed by a dwarf queen 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4241 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:68042 20:31 I love games with smoky full healing 20:31 Until you die trying to steel yourself for another Baph assault 20:31 I admit I don't love games where I die 20:32 Those aren't the best 20:48 When you piss off your god they should quest you for a specific offering to get back in their good graces -- "You must return with a gelatinous cube." or whatever 20:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:68711 20:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JB98L 20:59 [EvilHack] k21971 6580e8a - Fix: include steed's worn barding when tossing potions at it. 20:59 krm26 ^ 20:59 Evil indeed 21:00 lol no not evil 21:00 this is another Good™ thing 21:01 read the commit notes 21:01 Oooohh nice 21:01 its not live yet but will be tonight 21:02 I solved my problem when my pet died unexpectedly. I frantically searched for a wand of undead turning and got pegasus back naked so I could uncurse her stuff 21:02 So I lucked out 21:02 nice 21:02 Does knock/opening work like implemented in vanilla? 21:02 yes 21:02 Hmm, got Frost Brand, Snickersnee, and Sunsword....hard to know what to mainhand and what to offhand 21:02 Oh, also remove curse works on saddles now too 21:02 (assuming it's the same here) 21:03 hrm, did remove curse become a thing for saddles on steeds in 3.7? 21:03 Wait, you can use knock to get a saddle off a pet? 21:03 It did 21:03 brb 21:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Saddle 21:04 commit is listed in the template 21:04 Ah, right, doesn't work when cursed 21:05 #looting doesn't work 21:05 Knock/opening still should 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:69155 21:48 Yup, this is an Arahael bones level, and his spectre is loaded for bear with his dragonhide bag of holding 21:48 OOh he's wearing Dragonbane 21:49 God dammit he's got a wand of digging 22:01 Dammit no way to find a spectre armed with a bag full of teleportation and digging 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Arahael the spectre, and former Master, on T:71094 22:12 I have never in my life found a bones like this. Just basically duplicated my huge stash, Arahael even had a wand of wishing in there 22:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:17 -!- arahael1 has joined #evilhack 22:18 -!- Arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] https://git.io/JB9yg 22:36 [EvilHack] k21971 47c0350 - Fix: signal induced panictrace under curses. 22:36 [EvilHack] k21971 4d223a2 - Remove curse vs saddle/barding. 22:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1663 points, T:1776, zombified by a gnome zombie 22:36 Walked into a magic trap that spawned zombies. :( 22:36 oof 22:37 !who 22:37 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:38 I'm all alone 22:38 Swunsword's awareness of undead really fails for spectres 22:38 how so 22:39 Their glyph is the unexplored glyph 22:39 change it 22:39 i make S_GHOST appear as X 22:40 also if you'd like to save real quick, I'll patch evilhack on hdf-us 22:40 You know, I know how to change glyphs, and spectres have always bugged me, but I've never been clever enough to change their glyph 22:40 out 22:40 i'll show you 22:40 and patched 22:41 add this line to your rc cfg: 22:41 SYMBOLS=S_ghost:X 22:41 works for any 3.6/3.7 based variant/vanilla 22:41 exception being xnethack, aosdict did a thing 22:41 I'm gonna make spectres tildes :-) 22:43 Ugh, it is cool finding Dragonbane in this bones, but if I use it I'm just MC2 22:43 What would be insane is if evil supported unicode. 22:43 This channel doesn't even support unicode 22:44 Hey Arahael, I found your bones that died to Baphomet. You were LOADED 22:45 back in a bit 22:56 krm26: Awesome, and yep. Loaded is the word. 22:56 krm26: It was a crazy good run. 22:57 krm26: Still several wishes there if I recall. 22:57 krm26: Did you kill Baph? 22:58 Oh, and yeah, this channel does support unicode. :) 22:58 Yeah, you left him at a third health -- he surprised me right next to the steps when I descended from Orcus as my final move to look around before returning to my stash for repairs 22:58 So it was a near thing 22:59 I killed him, left, and came back for your spectre, who of course had teleportation and digging so led me a merry chase 23:00 You had a 1:0 wand of wishing, Dragonbane, the Eyes (but I'm lawful), 8-ball, and tons of garbage potions and scrolls 23:00 Sadly I couldn't kill your 350hp running spectre before he used all your wands of death on me 23:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06 K2: I suppose I could have ghosts still be a separate monster class with the default symbol changed to W, but I can think of at least three ways that would be a headache 23:07 Hmm, how does the 8-ball work? Thought I might be able to read it after shaking it 23:07 Gotta invoke? 23:16 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving]