00:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:5326
00:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:567
00:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 209 points, T:599, killed by a hobbit
00:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 874 points, T:2371, killed by a fire elemental of Thoth
00:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] asdf (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1356 points, T:1303, killed by a bolt of lightning
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04:05 <elenmirie> hm, #overview says that my second sokoban level is unsolved, but it is
04:05 <elenmirie> I think it's because it's got an extra hole that didn't need to be filled
04:06 <elenmirie> K2^^
04:11 <elenmirie> sokoban 1L
04:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) destroyed tinklebear the wraith, and former Rogue, on T:9869
04:16 <mobileuser> K2 can confirm, I have the same "unsolved" level
04:19 <amateurhour> yeah, that's how it determines whether it's solved, we pointed it out for a different level in the past too
04:20 <arahael> I think it all becomes "solved" when you get the soko reward.
04:20 <amateurhour> I suggested just going upstairs could also mark it as completed, but that probably doesn't work for first floors with pits
04:20 <mobileuser> at the moment it doesn't become solved when you get the soko reward.
04:21 <amateurhour> it could do something like figure out if there's a path from stair to stair whenever a boulder is pushed in a hole
04:21 <amateurhour> might be a bad idea
04:22 <mobileuser> could irrelevant pits be excluded for the "solved" determination...
04:23 <amateurhour> that might be tricky for that puzzle that has loads of them where you pick which ones are 'irrelevant'
04:23 <amateurhour> lemme find what it's called on the wiki
04:23 <amateurhour> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_1n
04:23 <amateurhour> that one
04:31 <mobileuser> ah ok...
04:35 <amateurhour> it could have some holes removed to make it so you have to go one direction I guess
04:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3072
05:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12137
05:03 <elenmirie> oh yay, marker!
05:03 <amateurhour> \o/ !!
05:03 <elenmirie> I had ALL the other possible soko prizes
05:04 <amateurhour> woah, that's epic
05:05 <elenmirie> yeah
05:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3487 points, T:4559, killed by a rodent of unusual size
05:08 <elenmirie> even after getting the prize, that one level is still "unsolved"
05:13 <mobileuser> ah finally someone who gets the marker :-)
05:13 <mobileuser> rebatela and I got the BoH
05:13 <mobileuser> scammed
05:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1484
05:20 <mobileuser> ^ uh oh
05:23 <amateurhour> photos taken moments before disaster
05:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) had an elven helm entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:14429
05:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1931 points, T:3430, killed by a dingo
06:18 <elenmirie> how come I can break a boulder but I can't knock down a dead tree?
06:48 <mobileuser> must be the raven in the tree :-)
06:59 <VaderFLAG> .
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07:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:20547
07:32 <mobileuser> \o/
07:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:77967
08:18 <K2> weee
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09:28 <qt> K2: why did the latest CI build fail?
09:28 <Hecubus> qt: Message from K2 at 2021-07-09 22:57 EDT: gnite
09:28 <K2> some issue with windows prereqs
09:28 <K2> i re-ran it a few times
09:28 <K2> maybe its good now
09:30 <K2> re-ran it just now, still processing
09:31 <mobileuser> is there any reason why in "attributes" the strength characteristic is not showing current; limit like the rest do?
09:32 <K2> not sure why that is, i've seen that
09:32 <qt> what's current; limit mean?
09:33 <mobileuser> try #attributes and you'll see what I mean
09:33 <qt> i just did it they are all like 'Your strength is 12. Your dexterity is 7. Your constitution is 14.' -- I don't see any limit tbh
09:33 <mobileuser> ok, weird...
09:33 <qt> https://0x0.st/-OOV.png
09:34 <K2> i think you have to do things to make them change
09:34 <K2> build passed this time (last commit)
09:35 <mobileuser> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/50f82b398a54fb95c4969888b99f7c7f/image.png
09:36 <K2> no idea
09:37 <qt> oh
09:37 <qt> looking at the code, it only shows up if your limit is different from the default human limit
09:38 <qt> so if your max str is not 18/**, or other attributes are not limited at 18
09:38 <qt> if i play a gnome it does show the str limit as 18/50
09:38 <qt> https://0x0.st/-OOW.png
09:40 <mobileuser> I see! Thanks for finding that!
09:41 <qt> it also looks like it will print the limit when you die, even if it's the default
09:41 <amateurhour> there you go mobileuser, just die to see your current strength limit
09:41 <mobileuser> lol
09:44 <K2> heh
09:45 <K2> the real question is, how do hawaiin shirts tie in to all of this
10:00 <qt> has anyone encountered the hallucinatory armor stuff yet
10:01 <mobileuser> tinklebear must have
10:01 <K2> footie pj's
10:01 <K2> w a n t
10:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1562
10:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1576
11:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:55211
11:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:3816
11:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5374 points, T:4182, killed by an owlbear
11:47 <qt> I polymorphed my cat into an elder minotaur
11:47 <qt> are those powerful?? sounds pretty badass
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 109 points, T:780, killed by a boulder
11:53 <K2> they are
11:53 <K2> hit *hard*
11:53 <K2> slower than a regular minotaur but stronger
11:54 <qt> hmm K2 I think there's a problem with chameleons
11:56 <qt> a tame chameleon that's in its base form won't be able to polymorph any more, so that after it gets killed once it won't be able to keep changing
11:56 <K2> that was on purpose
11:56 <qt> but select_newcham_form can pick 'chameleon' for chameleon
11:56 <qt> so once that happens it permanently cuts off your pet chameleon from its powers
11:57 <K2> if a chameleon is killed it reverts back to its base/true form and it wont poly again afterwards
11:57 <qt> yeah but it can also turn into its base form just at random, without being killed
11:57 <qt> and if that happens the 'it will never polymorph again' thing still applies
11:57 <K2> yeah
11:58 <K2> it was to allow chameleons to not die in their changed form (just like the player) but prevent them from changing again and resetting hp to full like what you get in grunthack
11:59 <K2> chameleons in grunthack are awful, you could wind up 'killing' them a dozen or more times before you truly kill them
11:59 <K2> i'm open to suggestions for a better method
12:02 <qt> maybe cancel the chameleon once it 'revives' into its base form?
12:06 <qt> alternatively, reject a shapechanger's base form from being chosen at random
12:09 <K2> wouldnt auto-cancelling the chameleon when it revives into its base form make it behave exactly the way it does now?
12:09 <K2> a cancelled chameleon wont shapechange
12:10 <qt> yeah exactly, but it would limit it to only happening when the chameleon actually dies
12:10 <K2> oh i see
12:10 <qt> my complaint about it is that as I was wandering around, my pet chameleon just happened to turn into its base form at random (without dying) and now it won't change form again
12:11 <K2> maybe a simplier solution is to exclude its base form as a valid polyform
12:11 <K2> hrm
12:12 <amateurhour> hey qt if the shapechanger itself is excluded would that mean you'd never see the base form?
12:13 <qt> not until it dies and revives as its base form, I guess
12:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1172 points, T:2009, killed by a mountain dwarf
12:13 <K2> maybe auto-cancel is a better way
12:13 <K2> hrm
12:13 <K2> hrrrrmmm
12:21 <qt> I do like the idea of shapechanging monsters revealing their true form every once in a while
12:21 <qt> but idk if it really adds that much mechanically I guess
12:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 23720 points, T:13778, poisoned by a killer bee
12:39 <rebatela> what is a dagger of excellence?
12:40 <rebatela> elder minotaur should be a great pet!  I actually tried making a horde of them once to tame, but i don't think you can tame them? (came very close to dying)
12:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 40 points, T:58, killed by kicking a rock
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 341 points, T:1235, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant mimic
13:02 <amateurhour> boosts your cha when wielded rebatela, dependent on BUC
13:02 <amateurhour> it's one of those object properties
13:02 <rebatela> ah sweet. thanks!
13:04 <rebatela> oh yeah went to 25!
13:06 <rebatela> i really want this ring of p'hul, but i REALLY don't want to die to Pelias... 
13:07 <amateurhour> just don't die, problem solved!
13:07 <rebatela> hehe he kicked my butt last time i wished for it 
13:08 <rebatela> 4d10 weapon physical, 4d10 weapon physical
13:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:17389
13:10 <qt> wow elder minotaur killed her in one hit I think
13:11 <rebatela> that's a pretty badass pet for that stage of the game!
13:11 <rebatela> and like i said i'm pretty sure poly is the only way to get one 
13:11 <rebatela> either that or they are just very hard to tame 
13:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law), 20079 points, T:17758, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster
13:12 <qt> oof
13:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2689 points, T:4133, killed by a hill orc
13:13 <qt> it was next to the upstairs... entered the level, instakilled
13:13 <rebatela> ugh that sucks qt. RIP
13:13 <rebatela> i despies those things 
13:13 <rebatela> despise*
13:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 818 points, T:806, zombified by an orc zombie
13:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:57434
13:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:57444
13:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 236 points, T:462, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome lord
13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed tinklebear the human zombie, and former Ronin, on T:932
13:28 <mobileuser> the chameleons...
13:31 <mobileuser> happy memories
13:33 <K2> elder mino cant be tamed
13:34 <K2> only way to get one is to get lucky with a poly trap
13:34 <K2> or figurine i think
13:34 <K2> qt :(
13:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 303 points, T:705, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant rat
13:40 <mobileuser> master lich on level 20, must be a shape changer...
13:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3114
13:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible asdf's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3878
13:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5222 points, T:3954, withered away
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13:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 435 points, T:1097, killed by a wand
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14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:24331
14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed ring of p'hul", on T:28227
14:44 <rebatela> and of course NOW i get cloak of mr off a player monster 
14:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Pelias, on T:31001
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14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9570 points, T:10148, killed by a mumak
15:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1636 points, T:2017, zombified by an elf zombie, while helpless
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15:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:35069
15:18 <mobileuser> nice work rebatela!
15:18 <rebatela> dammit alhoon directly underneath medusa like what happened to you not long ago
15:18 <mobileuser> yeah...
15:18 <rebatela> gonna need to lvl up and get teleport control 
15:19 <mobileuser> K2 would say: "kill it!" :-)
15:19 <rebatela> i used all my earth scrolls chasing pelias around 
15:19 <rebatela> (he had a digging wand)
15:19 <mobileuser> ouch!
15:19 <rebatela> started on the top floor of soko and we ended like 5 floors below lol 
15:20 <rebatela> worth it for that ring though... 
15:20 <K2> kill it dead
15:20 <Umbire> ...wait how
15:20 <rebatela> how did he dig? zapped the wand 
15:23 <Umbire> No I mean how'd he get out of Soko
15:23 <rebatela> dug down and then took the stairs on bottom level
15:23 <rebatela> then went back to digging 
15:24 <Umbire> Couldn't get to stairs before him eh
15:27 <rebatela> i was trying to avoid melee. hits super hard 
15:27 <rebatela> tempted to eat this tengu corpse... 
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:116, killed by a newt
15:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:25824
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16:32 <mobileuser> ok, hallucinating now...
16:33 <mobileuser> K2 qt "hobgoblin, wearing a fursuit, wielding a scroll" :-)
16:34 <mobileuser> "were-rabbit, wearing the emperor's new clothes, wielding a towel"
16:34 <mobileuser> "lichen, wearing heels"
16:35 <mobileuser> "stone giant, wearing cosplay"
16:35 <mobileuser> etc. etc.
16:35 <qt> nice
16:35 <qt> one of the fake armors is "wearing a towel" so I guess you could get "X, wearing a towel, wielding a towel"
16:36 <qt> for complete towel coverage
16:36 <mobileuser> heh
16:36 <mobileuser> far looking means I don't even have to spend turns for the descriptions to change
16:37 <mobileuser> "imp, wielding a banana" I don't know why that made me lol :b 
16:38 <mobileuser> "priest, wearing a sundress" very undignified
16:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 538 points, T:2446, killed by an invisible mountain dwarf
16:39 <mobileuser> wtf is MOPP level 4 gear :-)
16:40 <qt> idk, that's one of the armor ones?
16:40 <qt> military PPE I guess
16:40 <qt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOPP_(protective_gear)
16:41 <qt> MOPP level 0 -- Worn: nothing
16:41 <qt> nude soldiers, huh? interesting
16:42 <mobileuser> ah I was thinking it would be from some multi player game :-)
16:43 <mobileuser> oh that is MMORPG
16:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 456 points, T:1029, killed by a manes
16:50 <mobileuser> Wow, I still haven't abused my alignment
16:50 <mobileuser> squeaky clean
16:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 445 points, T:1134, killed by a mountain dwarf
16:53 <rebatela> well this sucks... I got the normal castle map and checked all four of the chests in the corners.. no WoW :( ? 
16:54 <rebatela> i cast detect treasure. no see wand 
16:55 <rebatela> but let's say it was 0:1 and something zapped it twice, it just turns to dust now right? 
16:56 <mobileuser> I don't think momsters will zap it twice in that case
16:56 <mobileuser> *monsters
16:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 346 points, T:1177, killed by a gremlin
16:56 <mobileuser> any magic detection scrolls?
16:57 <mobileuser> (a soldier could be carrying the wand)
17:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1145 points, T:1321, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping
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17:20 <mobileuser> @e?Dark One
17:20 <Hecubus> Dark One (h) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 claw amulet steal, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible
17:20 <mobileuser> @v?Dark One
17:20 <Hecubus> Dark One (@) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible
17:22 <mobileuser> tentacle drain int wtf
17:22 <K2> i made the dark one an illithid
17:22 <mobileuser> :b 
17:23 <mobileuser> plus more types of spell?
17:23 <K2> that bit has been that way a long time
17:23 <mobileuser> ok
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17:34 <K2> the spell bit
17:40 <mobileuser> yeah, trying to figure out if I could take on new and improved dark one
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18:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 354 points, T:1324, killed by a dart
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18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 313 points, T:1209, killed by a gnoll hunter
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18:57 <Umbire> YANI: "The dog suddenly starts frothing at the mouth!" <- a tamed dog of any level gets polymorphed into a rabid dog
19:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5384 points, T:4087, killed by a chameleon imitating a green dragon
20:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3688
20:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3775 points, T:4548, killed by a leocrotta, while reading a book
20:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 914 points, T:1489, killed by a dog
20:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 14 points, T:241, killed by an arrow
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20:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3289
20:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7262 points, T:6123, killed by a tiger
21:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1800 points, T:2662, killed by a yeti
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22:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 4897 points, T:5217, killed by an ancient pseudodragon
22:20 <bouquet> why was I playing a neutral wizard? I must have had a reason.
22:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 23 points, T:76, killed by a sewer rat
22:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 443 points, T:772, killed by a dagger
23:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4585 points, T:3427, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fire ant
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23:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1354 points, T:2057, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mountain dwarf