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03:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] oarisetnhdyubnjk (Mon Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:5
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04:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:25554
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05:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a water nymph corpse, on T:4414
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05:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27649
05:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a blast of disintegration), on T:27706
05:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 157871 points, T:27713, killed by a black dragon
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07:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 16246 points, T:10633, killed by a mountain centaur
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07:59 <tinklebear> I watched the ttyrec of last night's VotD demise, rebatela. 
08:00 <tinklebear> it was like one of those horror movies you've seen a few times, but you're still like "Nooo, don't go down to the basement!!"
08:03 <tinklebear> condolences. werecreatures bad, and werecreatures that gate in their own kind are even worse.
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08:05 <tinklebear> thanks again for the blessed scroll of remove curse thing, mobileuser!
08:16 <mobileuser> Glad it worked =D 
08:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4650
08:21 <tinklebear> I was like "Medusa's bow wouldn't be cursed, right? I'll just give it to the pet. They'll drop it if it's cursed."
08:22 <tinklebear> Wrong both ways!
08:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:4662
08:24 <rebatela> tinklebear: yeah, that sucked.. I was also overtired in real  life. Wasn't really thinking straight
08:24 <rebatela> but yes those weredemons can ruin game when you're a giant because the boulders make it so you can't move and by the time I realize what is wrong and drop the boulders ,I've usually wasted a lot of time and resources 
08:26 <rebatela> then of course, I was lying in bed thining about all the things i should have done. I had a wand of polymorph and probably could have zapped a path out of there or something 
08:27 <tinklebear> next time!
08:34 <tinklebear> I feel like the in-game effects of failing to eat regularly are the devs encouraging me to adopt a more healthy lifestyle
08:34 <rebatela> hehe
08:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5602
08:43 <tinklebear> earlier in this game there was a shambling horror with crazy high-damage multiple attacks, but really low monster-magic-resistance.
08:44 <tinklebear> and after I killed it, I was like "Doh, I should have tamed it instead"
08:44 <tinklebear> now there's another one, but it doesn't have the same features at all.
08:45 <tinklebear> it has just one attack (brain-eating), for example, and its monster-magic-resistance is 75
08:46 <tinklebear> whatever's going on, I won't be trying to tame that thing
08:52 <tinklebear> In a previous game, I encountered a bones level with two graves, and both PCs had been "decapitated by a shambling horror". But I don't have much reason to think bones are involved in this case.
08:55 <mobileuser> tinklebear you can't tame shambling horrors
08:55 <tinklebear> woah, really?
08:55 <mobileuser> K2 nerfed that after he saw my army of pet vorpal horrors ;-)
08:55 <tinklebear> lol
08:55 <tinklebear> :D
08:56 <tinklebear> at least you made it happen once, then
08:56 <mobileuser> heh
08:56 <mobileuser> yes, 2 types of shambling horror is weird
08:57 <mobileuser> I thought that could only happen with bones
08:58 <tinklebear> I guess there's a slim chance that the non-bones level I saw the first one on has bones I simply haven't found
08:58 <tinklebear> but I sort of doubt that
08:59 <tinklebear> and by "non-bones level" I mean "bones-possible level".
08:59 <tinklebear> *cough*
08:59 <rebatela> if you type / and then ? i think and type shambling horror it will tell you what they do in your game 
08:59 <rebatela> better do it quick though lol 
08:59 <tinklebear> haha
09:00 <tinklebear> thanks for the info about how to get the info when I don't have an example U on the level!
09:03 <tinklebear>  hm. the encyclopedia says my U-horrors are identical to the one I just saw at the Castle.
09:03 <tinklebear> so maybe there *are* bones on the level where I encountered the other one.
09:07 <mobileuser> secret bones!
09:10 * tinklebear shivers
09:14 <tinklebear> "of excellence" is a very funny way to say "of flattery"
09:15 <tinklebear> "You'd look soo much better if you'd only bless me. Don't you want to bless me? Just a little?"
09:26 <tinklebear> I'm on the level where I encountered the first U-horror, and the encyclopedia does remember the multiple attacks, and its monster-magic-resistance of 0
09:27 <tinklebear> Attacks: 3d6 tentacle cold, 2d7 butt shock, 5d6 butt shock, 4d8 tentacle energy drain, 2d6 spellcast arcane, 5d8 gaze cold
09:27 <tinklebear> "butt shock" :D
09:28 <rebatela> lol
09:36 <tinklebear> the butt shock U-horror was on level 18.
09:36 <tinklebear> The encyclopedia entry on levels 17 and 16 also lists those attributes
09:37 <tinklebear> but level 19 is a bones level, with IIRC a completely different U-horror entry
09:38 <tinklebear> and then below that is the castle, where I had yet another sort of U-horror
09:38 <tinklebear> "below that" == "quite a few levels below that"
09:39 <tinklebear> this is consistent with bones levels getting their own, "historically accurate", U-horror, and giving the game amnesia about what your dungeon instance's own U-horror is like
09:40 <tinklebear> (if it matters, level 19 is my own bones. RIP tinklebear the orcish rogue.)
09:51 <tinklebear> okay, yeah. each bones level seems to overwrite the features of U-horrors on subsequent levels.
09:57 <tinklebear> so, FTR, sluggoman's bones on level 25 must be responsible for the castle's U-horror's attibutes on level 26
09:58 <amateurhour> nice find
09:59 <mobileuser> scientific horror!
10:02 <mobileuser> I've added this to the notepad
10:06 <amateurhour> thank u notepaduser
10:08 <mobileuser> Also added the story of the poor troll with the cursed bow
10:09 <mobileuser> etherpad, whatever :b 
10:09 <mobileuser> thank me etherpaduser
10:09 <amateurhour> thank u etherpaduser :P
10:10 <amateurhour> no doubt added from your mobile phone!
10:12 <tinklebear> lol, gracias mobileuser
10:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16585
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12:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3205
12:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:39510
12:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5975 points, T:4040, killed by a soldier ant
13:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11618
13:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:13276
13:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "fireproof magic marker", on T:55992
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13:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 2711 points, T:2900, withered away
13:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15835
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1217 points, T:1799, killed by a crossbow bolt
14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:15947
14:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible jmcunx's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:16174
14:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had an elven cloak entrusted to him by Venus, on T:44877
14:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:47268
15:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had a steel axe entrusted to him by Venus, on T:47885
15:11 <VaderFLAG> Just junk after junk after junk
15:15 <tinklebear> "a festive ceramic holiday mug filled with chocolate drops"
15:16 <tinklebear> She doesn't know what sort of stuff you like, so she checks your inventory for hints, maybe?
15:17 <tinklebear> "Paperweights! Ah, so that's it."
15:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a magical apron entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:27010
16:02 <tinklebear> Genuinely curious what non-junk you were after though, VaderFLAG
16:09 <VaderFLAG> I mean, any non-junk weapon or dragonbane of course
16:12 <rebatela> i've still never gotten dragonbane from an altar 
16:13 <rebatela> tbf i do usually wish for it i guess 
16:13 <VaderFLAG> yeah that'll do it
16:13 <VaderFLAG> I usually have to sacrifice a lot to get it
16:13 <VaderFLAG> The times I have skipped that work, acid splash has made me regret it
16:14 <rebatela> yeah, it's so huge for acid resistance
16:14 <rebatela> mobileuser gets it a lot from altars 
16:15 <rebatela> the other option is to use alchemy smock when fighting kathryn or demogorgon etc. who cast that acid spell 
16:15 <VaderFLAG> I was excited for an alchemy smock to be my first gift this game... then it got poly-ripped apart :/
16:15 <rebatela> i'm playing giant though so not an option
16:15 <rebatela> oh that sucks!
16:15 <rebatela> yeah poly traps can be brutal 
16:17 <tinklebear> poly traps, the real killer
16:17 <tinklebear> for me at least, many times
16:17 <VaderFLAG> Even with searching, I stepped into 3 undiscovered poly traps this game
16:17 <VaderFLAG> Real drag, because there are some shopkeepers who badly need killing
16:20 <tinklebear> "VaderFLAG, please leave Peanut out-aAAARGHmfdsfffllllgh"
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16:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:50654
16:49 <VaderFLAG> oh ho ho ho
16:49 <amateurhour> woot \o/ gratz
16:50 <VaderFLAG> It's always when I'm just trying to get my luck up
16:50 <amateurhour> haha
17:00 <mobileuser> Dragonbane \o/
17:01 <mobileuser> nice
17:01 <VaderFLAG> Has anyone vorpal'd Vecna yet, or is it like sunsword?
17:03 <mobileuser> I think a bug with Vorpal was recently fixed...
17:03 <mobileuser> it only vorpaled jabberwocks
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "11111111", on T:4353
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17:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14012 points, T:6290, killed by a pyrolisk
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18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1759 points, T:2050, killed by a gnoll
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19:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "11111111", on T:3780
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20:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) had a pair of wooden old gloves entrusted to her by Mars, on T:47579
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21:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51644
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